[Rosiak's Blog] Singleton no longer at MU

[NersEllenson]

i was simply stating a possibility which had yet to be said. my opinion is that Singleton knew he could not play his first year at MU because he transferred from a D1 school. Why would he waste a year at MU knowing he couldn't play, only to leave at the end of the year.

This.  If there weren't more to the story, no way the kid comes to MU for 1 year to sit out, only to leave 1 year later unless something went a little wrong.  Only other plausible explanation would be that he thought he'd earn a scholarship, and wasn't granted one...but there have been whispers as to Singleton's involvement in the "incident."

[HouWarrior]

Given the outcome of no prosecutions, arent all the kids entitled to not be named here, even by inference and rumor?

[MerrittsMustache]

Given the outcome of no prosecutions, arent all the kids entitled to not be named here, even by inference and rumor?

Apparently not. 

You'd think the mods would be on top of that but they must be preoccupied locking Chicos vs. Lenny threads.

[🏀]

Apparently not. 

You'd think the mods would be on top of that but they must be preoccupied locking Chicos vs. Lenny threads.

You could help out and use the 'Report to Moderator' feature.

[brewcity77]

Love how we skip "innocent until proven guilty" and skip right
to "guilty without being convicted, charged, or even arrested.

[4everwarriors]

The loss of a walk-on is no big thing regarless of why. Dudes, he was a walk-on. Some of you cats acted like Singleton was the the next Deron Williams. Hey adios and the horse he rode in on.

[Golden Avalanche]

His biggest impact was how he mysteriously planted the seed in the heads of the loonies that he was a legitimate option on the court.

Not sure I've ever seen a walk-on receive the kind of mythical status Singleton got with a certain segment. Well, until Jake Thomas.

[NCMUFan]

To bad it didn't work out.  Wonder if he still wishes he was at High Point on scholarship and getting playing time.  I can see the disappointment if he thought he was scholarship material this year and not getting it with two scholarships still being available.  A scholarship in the hand is better than two in the bush any day.  Oh well, sometimes shooting for the stars isn't what it is all cracked up to be.   

[4everwarriors]

Hopefully Buzz has learned that for his program to get better, you don't scholarship non- Big East calliber players.

[Boone]

Golden Avalanche and 4everwarriors have it right. Singleton averaged 5.5 points a game and shot 17% from 3 at low D-1 High Point. If he'd been in MU's rotation we were in big trouble.

[jsglow]

Good luck in your future endeavors David.  Hope you appreciated your time at MU.

[bilsu]

Golden Avalanche and 4everwarriors have it right. Singleton averaged 5.5 points a game and shot 17% from 3 at low D-1 High Point. If he'd been in MU's rotation we were in big trouble.

I think, if playing time was the issue, it is a good indication that he felt Mayo and Wilson were better than him. Singleton was never going to be a star, but he had experience and good size for a guard.

[MUMac]

Love how we skip "innocent until proven guilty" and skip right
to "guilty without being convicted, charged, or even arrested.

Where did you see this in the thread?  I never saw anyone claim anyone was "guilty" of anything in this thread.  One person speculated that it might have had something to do with the situation (use of the term "horrific" was a poor choice).  A few concurred.  No one ever said anyone was "guilty" though.

Although, some players were found "guilty" of Sexual Harrassment by the University and were punished.  They were also disciplined by the University and BB Program.

South Dakota appears to be a good fit for him.  He will likely get playing time there and can take Jake Thomas scholarship.  I guess Singleton ended up being "the player to be named later" in the trade for Thomas.   

[TedBaxter]

Where did you see the Singleton to South Dakota news?

[avid1010]

Golden Avalanche and 4everwarriors have it right. Singleton averaged 5.5 points a game and shot 17% from 3 at low D-1 High Point. If he'd been in MU's rotation we were in big trouble.

Buzz was the one who said he'd "surpise people," "get minutes," "see the floor," etc...  My guess is he could guard his spot and not turn the ball over.  If he could hit an open shot, to keep his defender open, he would have served a purpose next year.  I think it's very realistic that Buzz realizes he needs some role players, to play light minutes, and understand that they are never going to be a scorer or big minute guy.  I thought Singleton would fill that role.  Junior goes down again, and we're all thinking a little differently about things.

[GGGG]

Not really avid.  My guess is that Buzz thinks that we have better options than Singleton at the point, be it Vander or DWill.  If that is what he believes, than I have no reason to doubt him.

[avid1010]

Not really avid.  My guess is that Buzz thinks that we have better options than Singleton at the point, be it Vander or DWill.  If that is what he believes, than I have no reason to doubt him.

I don't know that Buzz believes that.  I haven't seen or heard anything to make me think he wanted to see the kid leave, be it Buzz kicking him out or Singleton wanting PT.  All I know is Buzz was quoted many times saying Singleton would surprise people next year and get some minutes...stating he was not a common walk-on.  Not that this is a big deal, but I'm not convinced it's no big deal either.  

[Nukem2]

I don't know that Buzz believes that.  I haven't seen or heard anything to make me think he wanted to see the kid leave, be it Buzz kicking him out or Singleton wanting PT.  All I know is Buzz was quoted many times saying Singleton would surprise people next year and get some minutes...stating he was not a common walk-on.  Not that this is a big deal, but I'm not convinced it's no big deal either.  

Where was Buzz quoted many times as saying Singleton would surprise folks...? What I saw more were statements by guys like Todd Rosiak and Mark Miller who said that it wa unlikely that Dave would get a scholie at any point.  What I heard Buzz say, or being quoted as saying, is that he appreciated the hard work and the contributions of the walk-ons Rob and Dave.

[Marquette84]

Three months ago I was ripped a new one for making the observation that taking another point guard (juco or otherwise) was a sign that Buzz lacked faith in the two backups we had (Wilson & Singleton).
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=25597.msg285129#msg285129

Well, not too long after my comment, Buzz took another PG commitment:
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=26917.0

And now the other shoe has dropped: Singleton leaves. 

It sure seems like Buzz doubted that Singleton could serve as an effective backup PG.

Then again, maybe this wasn't related at all to Singleton's ability.  Maybe its just that Buzz knew that Singleton--being a Philadelphia area player--was not long for the team.

[GGGG]

I don't know that Buzz believes that.  I haven't seen or heard anything to make me think he wanted to see the kid leave, be it Buzz kicking him out or Singleton wanting PT.  All I know is Buzz was quoted many times saying Singleton would surprise people next year and get some minutes...stating he was not a common walk-on.  Not that this is a big deal, but I'm not convinced it's no big deal either. 

Then why didn't he give him a scholarship?

[GGGG]

Where was Buzz quoted many times as saying Singleton would surprise folks...? What I saw more were statements by guys like Todd Rosiak and Mark Miller who said that it wa unlikely that Dave would get a scholie at any point.  What I heard Buzz say, or being quoted as saying, is that he appreciated the hard work and the contributions of the walk-ons Rob and Dave.

Everyone got all excited because Wes said some positive words after the Pro-Am last year.  If he was going to be valuable in any way, he would have been given a scholarship.

[avid1010]

Then why didn't he give him a scholarship?

Because he wasn't good enough to earn one.  I'll take the comments from Buzz over your opinion.

[GGGG]

OK, so your opinion is that Buzz found him valuable enough to give him minutes, but not valuable enough to give him a scholarship....even though we have two available for next year.

That doesn't make a lot of sense.

And honestly, I don't recall Buzz saying that re Singleton anyway.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Three months ago I was ripped a new one for making the observation that taking another point guard (juco or otherwise) was a sign that Buzz lacked faith in the two backups we had (Wilson & Singleton).
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=25597.msg285129#msg285129

Well, not too long after my comment, Buzz took another PG commitment:
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=26917.0

And now the other shoe has dropped: Singleton leaves. 

It sure seems like Buzz doubted that Singleton could serve as an effective backup PG.

Then again, maybe this wasn't related at all to Singleton's ability.  Maybe its just that Buzz knew that Singleton--being a Philadelphia area player--was not long for the team.

If only Buzz adopted Dave, everything would have worked out...

[ChicosBailBonds]

So only 2 of the 4 are still on the team now.