belling talking about MU, assault, buzz, madison

[Hards Alumni]

And that has made Belling more entertaining than ever lately.

Thanks for paving the path once again.

[KenoshaWarrior]

As someone who is somewhat conservative leaning (even though I am a public school teacher...Dont worry I have a free period right know) I find Belling an annoying hypocrite.  On one end of the spectrum he usually bad mouths Marquette whenever he possibly can. Yet he seems to be a Badger apologist more than anyone else.  Why is this hypocritical?  Because the University of Wisconsin is home to all sort of far left wing nut jobs and Marquette is one of the more conservative schools in the region. 

I also think that he uses language towards other races that only fuels the fire for some of the people that think Conservatives are racist.  (Remember the whole "WetBack" incident?)

[wyzgy]

As someone who is somewhat conservative leaning (even though I am a public school teacher...Dont worry I have a free period right know) I find Belling an annoying hypocrite.  On one end of the spectrum he usually bad mouths Marquette whenever he possibly can. Yet he seems to be a Badger apologist more than anyone else.  Why is this hypocritical?  Because the University of Wisconsin is home to all sort of far left wing nut jobs and Marquette is one of the more conservative schools in the region. 

I also think that he uses language towards other races that only fuels the fire for some of the people that think Conservatives are racist.  (Remember the whole "WetBack" incident?)

first off-thank you navin-not arguing for or against belling.  i understand completely why people don't like him.  but don't comment on something you didn't listen to.  kind of read the book before you critique it.

k-warrior-you obviously didn't listen to it b/c in the middle of his monologue he refers to madison as that liberal black hole of ... i forget the exact quote, but  there is NO love lost btw. he and madison.  the one thing about belling is he's not a homer.  he will eat his own in broad daylight if he feels the need to

[DJO's Pump Fake]

He is making a whole bunch of FALSE claims (vander was not charged, he was cited and says there is no evidence as to why MPD didn't come until 24 hours later, which was the "victim's" fault).....I am as conservative as they come and I can't stand Belling.

He just makes sweeping generalizations and false assumptions (like most people on here) but he has a microphone and gets paid for it.

[TheDOC816]

He is making a whole bunch of FALSE claims (vander was not charged, he was cited and says there is no evidence as to why MPD didn't come until 24 hours later, which was the "victim's" fault).....I am as conservative as they come and I can't stand Belling.

He just makes sweeping generalizations and false assumptions (like most people on here) but he has a microphone and gets paid for it.

How is saying there is no evidence as to why MPD wasn't notified until 24 hours later a FALSE claim?  There was no evidence as to why DPS kept it under wraps for 24 hours.  If there were other witnesses that were quoted as to proving the racial slur statement false, that would lead one to believe that someone showed shortly after the incident and did some investigating.  So either the victim didn't want to press charges until a day later or DPS just held onto it for a day.

[Benny B]

As someone who is somewhat conservative leaning (even though I am a public school teacher...Dont worry I have a free period right know) I find Belling an annoying hypocrite.  On one end of the spectrum he usually bad mouths Marquette whenever he possibly can. Yet he seems to be a Badger apologist more than anyone else.  Why is this hypocritical?  Because the University of Wisconsin is home to all sort of far left wing nut jobs and Marquette is one of the more conservative schools in the region. 

I also think that he uses language towards other races that only fuels the fire for some of the people that think Conservatives are racist.  (Remember the whole "WetBack" incident?)

Belling isn't a hypocrite at all.  He's an entertainer, pure and simple.  Anything you hear on his radio show reflects no opinion whatsoever -- including his own.

Belling is no more of a political analyst than Howard Stern is social scientist.

[MUfan12]

Belling isn't a hypocrite at all.  He's an entertainer, pure and simple.  Anything you hear on his radio show reflects no opinion whatsoever -- including his own.

Belling is no more of a political analyst than Howard Stern is social scientist.

Exactly. Which is why I find it so funny that people get their panties in a bunch about what he says.

I listen to him when I can, and ignore everything he says about sports, especially MU. It's not that tough to do.

[MUBurrow]

this is more of a response to the assertion we hear all over the place (not just on this board in regards to Belling, but also other like Glenn Beck or Limbaugh, as well as Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, etc on the left) that because someone is on the air a long time, has a lot of listeners, makes a lot of bank, that reaffirms what they do.  I think thats complete BS when talking about people who are paid to comment on the news and persuade the way people think about real political and social issues of the day.  
Just because you can sell an idea, doesn't reaffirm the points you are making on your shows.  People are willing to buy all sorts of ideas, particularly when they come into line with what they already want to think.  This is fine in clear cut commentary vs news, but that line has been smashed into oblivion.  So when people tune to Belling, Beck, or Olbermann instead of watching actual news or instead of seeking out one of the few unbiased sources we have left, the popularity each host generates does not justify their views.

[DJO's Pump Fake]

How is saying there is no evidence as to why MPD wasn't notified until 24 hours later a FALSE claim?  There was no evidence as to why DPS kept it under wraps for 24 hours.  If there were other witnesses that were quoted as to proving the racial slur statement false, that would lead one to believe that someone showed shortly after the incident and did some investigating.  So either the victim didn't want to press charges until a day later or DPS just held onto it for a day.

Well because MPD wasn't notified because Public Safety wasn't even aware of the incident until 7:00PM the NEXT DAY....saying there is no evidence is false, because there is evidence.

[Benny B]

this is more of a response to the assertion we hear all over the place (not just on this board in regards to Belling, but also other like Glenn Beck or Limbaugh, as well as Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, etc on the left) that because someone is on the air a long time, has a lot of listeners, makes a lot of bank, that reaffirms what they do.  I think thats complete BS when talking about people who are paid to comment on the news and persuade the way people think about real political and social issues of the day.  
Just because you can sell an idea, doesn't reaffirm the points you are making on your shows.  People are willing to buy all sorts of ideas, particularly when they come into line with what they already want to think.  This is fine in clear cut commentary vs news, but that line has been smashed into oblivion.  So when people tune to Belling, Beck, or Olbermann instead of watching actual news or instead of seeking out one of the few unbiased sources we have left, the popularity each host generates does not justify their views.

I have yet to meet a liberal who became a conservative (or vice versa) after listening to talk radio.  The people that listen to Belling, Sykes, Maddow, Franken, etc. are people who already agree with the spew they hear.  True "independents" (if such even exists today) either A) don't listen to talk radio or B) listen to both conservative- and liberal-leaning talk radio but do not formulate their opinions based upon such.

[MUBurrow]

I have yet to meet a liberal who became a conservative (or vice versa) after listening to talk radio.  The people that listen to Belling, Sykes, Maddow, Franken, etc. are people who already agree with the spew they hear.  True "independents" (if such even exists today) either A) don't listen to talk radio or B) listen to both conservative- and liberal-leaning talk radio but do not formulate their opinions based upon such.

i think its the reaffirmation of those ideas thats the problem, not necessarily that people's basic political/social beliefs are altered.

[TheDOC816]

Well because MPD wasn't notified because Public Safety wasn't even aware of the incident until 7:00PM the NEXT DAY....saying there is no evidence is false, because there is evidence.

Well I was misinformed then, I had heard they were contacted.  But it still doesn't hid the fact that DPS covers up things that athletes do sometimes.  Back when TC was still here and half the basketball team got into a brawl at Sigma Chi but they just got scolded by the DPS chief.

[rocky_warrior]

Folks, if you're going to post on this thread, please try to stay on the content of what Belling said, and not your political beliefs with/against him.

[Mr. Nielsen]

What the hell is wrong with some of you? This is NOT about if you like Mark Belling or dislike like Mark Belling. Talk about in what he said about MU or get off!

[Ari Gold]

Listened to the Belling clip...

For me listening to Belling is more of a necessity than an choice. I'm not his biggest fan, but there are times when he really hits it. I also think he does a good job of getting breaking news/weather to his listeners. All things considered and without trying to start up a new debate I'm a much bigger fan of Sykes than Belling.

In many cases, Belling's sports opinions are off and a bit sensationalized. But he seems to brush off the Vander Blue incident and At least he makes the "victim" of the blue incident look like an f'n moron. In this time, he seems to be very level headed with regard to the athletes in these circumstances and criticizes the Public Relations of the School and Athletic Department -which seems more of a vendetta against the school. However, Belling does ask questions that people outside the program/school or casual fans would ask about the program.

Credit should be given to belling where its due: He's been in a fill in host for Rush limbaugh. Whether you like either of them or not, it speaks to where his career is at and the success he's had.

[wyzgy]

although belling doesn't excuse athletes behaviors, he admits that it can be somewhat of a crap shoot when recruiting these guys.  some of them come from tough backgrounds and taking that a step further, they either do not know how to interact appropriately in some situations and/or need to learn that they have a target on there backs and how to deal with it positively.  i'll be blunt here, in the hood, it's all about proving yourself, over and over and over until you hit it big time.  then you still have to watch your back.  i'm sure there are countless lectures the moment they step onto campus on what to expect.  some need to live out those moments in order to learn from them, some never do.  i believe buzz can help them through these moments and produce some good guys, as he already has.  in buzz we trust more than just a b-ball coach 

[Lennys Tap]

although belling doesn't excuse athletes behaviors, he admits that it can be somewhat of a crap shoot when recruiting these guys.  some of them come from tough backgrounds and taking that a step further, they either do not know how to interact appropriately in some situations and/or need to learn that they have a target on there backs and how to deal with it positively.  i'll be blunt here, in the hood, it's all about proving yourself, over and over and over until you hit it big time.  then you still have to watch your back.  i'm sure there are countless lectures the moment they step onto campus on what to expect.  some need to live out those moments in order to learn from them, some never do.  i believe buzz can help them through these moments and produce some good guys, as he already has.  in buzz we trust more than just a b-ball coach  

Spot on, wyzgy.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

although belling doesn't excuse athletes behaviors, he admits that it can be somewhat of a crap shoot when recruiting these guys.  some of them come from tough backgrounds and taking that a step further, they either do not know how to interact appropriately in some situations and/or need to learn that they have a target on there backs and how to deal with it positively.  i'll be blunt here, in the hood, it's all about proving yourself, over and over and over until you hit it big time.  then you still have to watch your back.  i'm sure there are countless lectures the moment they step onto campus on what to expect.  some need to live out those moments in order to learn from them, some never do.  i believe buzz can help them through these moments and produce some good guys, as he already has.  in buzz we trust more than just a b-ball coach 

Is Vander from "The hood"?

[Mr. Nielsen]

Is Vander from "The hood"?

Nobody said Vander is from "the hood"

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Is Vander from "The hood"?

JMM for life.   

[GGGG]

He's not from the hood, but he grew up in a poorer area of madison. Raised by a single mother with a dad who is in jail. I think coming from that to MU might be a tough transition.

[77ncaachamps]

Some folks from the hood fare better than those in rural areas.

[4everwarriors]

I'm a refugee from the hood my own self.

[BrewCity83]

Many folks from the rural areas think Marquette is in the hood.

[brewcity77]

Speaking of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about..If you don't listen, which by your own admission, you don't, how on earth are you qualified to comment on the quality of that show or the discussion that takes place?

BTW, it seems Vander Blue has a reputation now too. Are we all supposed to assume that he's a bad dude because his reputation says he is, even though we've never met him, or gotten to know anything about him? I could suggest that you have a reputation too...Milwaukee Fire Fighter I assume. A member of the union perhaps? Union members have a reputation of disagreeing with Mark Belling lately. Just sayin.

First, I don't listen because I have listened in the past and have had a chance to hear that he creates opinions without becoming informed on a topic.

Second, I wasn't always a firefighter, and the reputation he built isn't just as a pundit, but as a professional working in the media business. Having spent years working for news networks in Milwaukee, it's not just his on-air persona that has a reputation and that I have little patience for, it's his treatment of his co-workers. If you're a d-bag to the people whose job it is to make you look and sound good, the odds are you aren't worth my time.

And finally, you clearly haven't done much research into the union situation in Wisconsin, or you'd know that the Milwaukee Local 215 Firefighters Union supported Walker and hasn't come under any of the fire or scrutiny that has befallen other unions from Republican politicians and right-wing media, so the odds that my stance as a Union member would preclude me from listening to and supporting Belling strictly on that basis are pretty much zero.

I stand by what I said. He's little more than a troll who doesn't know what he's talking about and exists only to incite others.