belling talking about MU, assault, buzz, madison

[wyzgy]

go to wisn, pull up bellings web site and need to listen to podcast to replay.  i came in half way thru.  sounds pretty provocative.  he brings up an interesting perspective...

[wyzgy]

he started talking about it at about 5:30 until about 5:40 then went in to commercial.  will have to wait until after the show, until they put up today's podcast.  the 3rd hour, probably part II.

[🏀]

Any context at all, buddy?

[brandx]

My life hasn't deteriorated enough for me to stoop to listening to him.

[Mr. Nielsen]

My life hasn't deteriorated enough for me to stoop to listening to him.

I guess that is a lefty talking. I couldn't help myself.

Hour 3, part 1 on the podcast

[ChicosBailBonds]

I guess that is a lefty talking. I couldn't help myself.

Hour 3, part 1 on the podcast

I'm anything but a lefty and I can't stand that jerk at all.  I cannot think of a more ill-informed sports person than Mark Belling.  The second he starts opining about sports it becomes comical. 

[Mr. Nielsen]

He is very fair on the case today on Marquette. Just listen!

[muball]

I cant listen to anything he talks about, sorry

[brewcity77]

I'm anything but a lefty and I can't stand that jerk at all.  I cannot think of a more ill-informed sports person than Mark Belling.  The second he starts opining about sports it becomes comical.

+100

Belling is a complete idiot, and people in the business generally hate working with him. When he had his TV show, a friend of mine was on the production crew. Every day when Belling came in, he was rude to the staff, pretty much a complete jerk. So each day, my friend moved his chair backwards about a half-inch. He was the kind of guy who would just come in, throw his weight around, and flop down in his chair. Well, after a couple weeks of sliding the chair back, eventually it was at the very edge of the set. Belling came in, flopped into his chair, and went ass over teakettle backwards. Justice from all the production crew people that ever had to put up with him.

And as Chicos said, he is clueless about sports, and honestly, clueless about probably 40% of what he talks about. But because he is outspoken, people think he knows what he's talking about and his fans glom on and agree with anything he says because they are just as ill-informed as he is.

[wyzgy]

ok, wow.   just thought i'd let ya'll know belling was talking about vander and some other stuff; i myself hadn't had the chance to listen to the whole thing as i was still at work.  now that i've had a chance to listen to it, i thought it was very fair.  he did go heavy on MU and their lack of pr.  what i found very revealing however, was the responses about the messenger.  he is a very unique person that is going to generate an opinion.  if you get past his ego, he is a very sharp dude and he has risen to national status in his field as he fills in for rush limbaugh fairly often.  anyway, he had some very provocative and some complimentary opinions of buzz. belling had some very frank questions about the type of person coaches are willing to recruit and how far are they willing to go with them.   i like vander a lot, but his public reaction to not recieveing wisco player of the year were kind of a buzz(not the coach) kill for me.  i really hope he grows thru these episodes and comes out a stronger/better person and player and allows his actions on/off the floor show it   

[Hards Alumni]

ok, wow.   just thought i'd let ya'll know belling was talking about vander and some other stuff; i myself hadn't had the chance to listen to the whole thing as i was still at work.  now that i've had a chance to listen to it, i thought it was very fair.  he did go heavy on MU and their lack of pr.  what i found very revealing however, was the responses about the messenger.  he is a very unique person that is going to generate an opinion.  if you get past his ego, he is a very sharp dude and he has risen to national status in his field as he fills in for rush limbaugh fairly often.  anyway, he had some very provocative and some complimentary opinions of buzz. belling had some very frank questions about the type of person coaches are willing to recruit and how far are they willing to go with them.   i like vander a lot, but his public reaction to not recieveing wisco player of the year were kind of a buzz(not the coach) kill for me.  i really hope he grows thru these episodes and comes out a stronger/better person and player and allows his actions on/off the floor show it   

This was easily the funniest thing I have read all day.

Mark Belling is a complete tool, and as dumb as they come.

[Niv Berkowitz]

+ 1,000,000

There are no dumber people on the radio speaking about anything than Mark Belling.

"Wow! That guy has a lot of passion! He MUST really know what he's talking about." - Belling fans

[RubyWiscy]

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This was easily the funniest thing I have read all day.

Mark Belling is a complete tool, and as dumb as they come.
Spoken like soneone who has never listened to the show and only goes by what others say.

[GGGG]

I've listened to the show.  He states an opinion, then shouts anyone down or deflects them when they actually make a point.  It is a tactic that is used by many talk show hosts on both sides.  And then when they get the caller off the air, they minimize any "damage" they did by belittling them once again.  I don't think he is particularly intelligent but he's not dumb in that he knows how to make a living.

Everyone I have talked to who has had any sort of professional interaction with him thinks he's a tool though.

[ChicosBailBonds]

This was easily the funniest thing I have read all day.

Mark Belling is a complete tool, and as dumb as they come.

Oh I can think of plenty dumber

[77ncaachamps]

He's paid to sell views on the air.

And that's why you ignore people like that. They're simply salespersons.

[ChicosBailBonds]

He's paid to sell views on the air.

And that's why you ignore people like that. They're simply salespersons.

Sounds a lot like politicians...who should also be ignored

[MarquetteDano]

Sounds a lot like politicians...who should also be ignored

The only problem with ignoring politicians is that is when they are really screwing you.   

[wyzgy]

 i'd like to be as dumb as he.  he's been on the air for over 20 years, highest rated show in this vicinity.  probaby making close to 7 figures, has owned a few good race horses and has made a name fr himself nationally.  regardless of your opinions of him-he doesn't give a flying f___ what anyone thinks.  yup, big tool.  anyway, any comments on what the messenger really had to say about us, or did ya'll not even bother-it was good and fair-actually shwed some restraint given his relationship with MU.  he was probably the reason wisn lost the broadcast rights.  the station that carries the games now sucks!! i can almost pick them up in waukesha, but cleveland comes in nice and clear

[brewcity77]

We get it, wyzgy, you're a fan. But the guy's got a reputation both on and off the air. He's the consummate definition of a troll. Says something just to rile people up, then refuses to have an honest discussion. I hate trolls enough on the Internet, no need to actively seek more of them out.

[Hards Alumni]

We get it, wyzgy, you're a fan. But the guy's got a reputation both on and off the air. He's the consummate definition of a troll. Says something just to rile people up, then refuses to have an honest discussion. I hate trolls enough on the Internet, no need to actively seek more of them out.

Exactly.

This is why most talk radio is almost impossible for me to listen to.

Whether you listen to conservative or liberal radio stations (or TV stations), you are usually just listening to reaffirm your own beliefs.

[jficke13]

The only problem with ignoring politicians is that is when they are really screwing you.   

don't worry, they screw you regardless of how much you're paying attention... it might be a better idea just to close your eyes and pretend it's not happening.

[Hards Alumni]

don't worry, they screw you regardless of how much you're paying attention... it might be a better idea just to close your eyes and pretend it's not happening.

Are you Bobby Knight?

[NavinRJohnson]

We get it, wyzgy, you're a fan. But the guy's got a reputation both on and off the air. He's the consummate definition of a troll. Says something just to rile people up, then refuses to have an honest discussion. I hate trolls enough on the Internet, no need to actively seek more of them out.

Speaking of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about..If you don't listen, which by your own admission, you don't, how on earth are you qualified to comment on the quality of that show or the discussion that takes place?

BTW, it seems Vander Blue has a reputation now too. Are we all supposed to assume that he's a bad dude because his reputation says he is, even though we've never met him, or gotten to know anything about him? I could suggest that you have a reputation too...Milwaukee Fire Fighter I assume. A member of the union perhaps? Union members have a reputation of disagreeing with Mark Belling lately. Just sayin.

[MUfan12]

Union members have a reputation of disagreeing with Mark Belling lately.

And that has made Belling more entertaining than ever lately.

[Hards Alumni]

And that has made Belling more entertaining than ever lately.

Thanks for paving the path once again.

[KenoshaWarrior]

As someone who is somewhat conservative leaning (even though I am a public school teacher...Dont worry I have a free period right know) I find Belling an annoying hypocrite.  On one end of the spectrum he usually bad mouths Marquette whenever he possibly can. Yet he seems to be a Badger apologist more than anyone else.  Why is this hypocritical?  Because the University of Wisconsin is home to all sort of far left wing nut jobs and Marquette is one of the more conservative schools in the region. 

I also think that he uses language towards other races that only fuels the fire for some of the people that think Conservatives are racist.  (Remember the whole "WetBack" incident?)

[wyzgy]

As someone who is somewhat conservative leaning (even though I am a public school teacher...Dont worry I have a free period right know) I find Belling an annoying hypocrite.  On one end of the spectrum he usually bad mouths Marquette whenever he possibly can. Yet he seems to be a Badger apologist more than anyone else.  Why is this hypocritical?  Because the University of Wisconsin is home to all sort of far left wing nut jobs and Marquette is one of the more conservative schools in the region. 

I also think that he uses language towards other races that only fuels the fire for some of the people that think Conservatives are racist.  (Remember the whole "WetBack" incident?)

first off-thank you navin-not arguing for or against belling.  i understand completely why people don't like him.  but don't comment on something you didn't listen to.  kind of read the book before you critique it.

k-warrior-you obviously didn't listen to it b/c in the middle of his monologue he refers to madison as that liberal black hole of ... i forget the exact quote, but  there is NO love lost btw. he and madison.  the one thing about belling is he's not a homer.  he will eat his own in broad daylight if he feels the need to

[DJO's Pump Fake]

He is making a whole bunch of FALSE claims (vander was not charged, he was cited and says there is no evidence as to why MPD didn't come until 24 hours later, which was the "victim's" fault).....I am as conservative as they come and I can't stand Belling.

He just makes sweeping generalizations and false assumptions (like most people on here) but he has a microphone and gets paid for it.

[TheDOC816]

He is making a whole bunch of FALSE claims (vander was not charged, he was cited and says there is no evidence as to why MPD didn't come until 24 hours later, which was the "victim's" fault).....I am as conservative as they come and I can't stand Belling.

He just makes sweeping generalizations and false assumptions (like most people on here) but he has a microphone and gets paid for it.

How is saying there is no evidence as to why MPD wasn't notified until 24 hours later a FALSE claim?  There was no evidence as to why DPS kept it under wraps for 24 hours.  If there were other witnesses that were quoted as to proving the racial slur statement false, that would lead one to believe that someone showed shortly after the incident and did some investigating.  So either the victim didn't want to press charges until a day later or DPS just held onto it for a day.

[Benny B]

As someone who is somewhat conservative leaning (even though I am a public school teacher...Dont worry I have a free period right know) I find Belling an annoying hypocrite.  On one end of the spectrum he usually bad mouths Marquette whenever he possibly can. Yet he seems to be a Badger apologist more than anyone else.  Why is this hypocritical?  Because the University of Wisconsin is home to all sort of far left wing nut jobs and Marquette is one of the more conservative schools in the region. 

I also think that he uses language towards other races that only fuels the fire for some of the people that think Conservatives are racist.  (Remember the whole "WetBack" incident?)

Belling isn't a hypocrite at all.  He's an entertainer, pure and simple.  Anything you hear on his radio show reflects no opinion whatsoever -- including his own.

Belling is no more of a political analyst than Howard Stern is social scientist.

[MUfan12]

Belling isn't a hypocrite at all.  He's an entertainer, pure and simple.  Anything you hear on his radio show reflects no opinion whatsoever -- including his own.

Belling is no more of a political analyst than Howard Stern is social scientist.

Exactly. Which is why I find it so funny that people get their panties in a bunch about what he says.

I listen to him when I can, and ignore everything he says about sports, especially MU. It's not that tough to do.

[MUBurrow]

this is more of a response to the assertion we hear all over the place (not just on this board in regards to Belling, but also other like Glenn Beck or Limbaugh, as well as Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, etc on the left) that because someone is on the air a long time, has a lot of listeners, makes a lot of bank, that reaffirms what they do.  I think thats complete BS when talking about people who are paid to comment on the news and persuade the way people think about real political and social issues of the day.  
Just because you can sell an idea, doesn't reaffirm the points you are making on your shows.  People are willing to buy all sorts of ideas, particularly when they come into line with what they already want to think.  This is fine in clear cut commentary vs news, but that line has been smashed into oblivion.  So when people tune to Belling, Beck, or Olbermann instead of watching actual news or instead of seeking out one of the few unbiased sources we have left, the popularity each host generates does not justify their views.

[DJO's Pump Fake]

How is saying there is no evidence as to why MPD wasn't notified until 24 hours later a FALSE claim?  There was no evidence as to why DPS kept it under wraps for 24 hours.  If there were other witnesses that were quoted as to proving the racial slur statement false, that would lead one to believe that someone showed shortly after the incident and did some investigating.  So either the victim didn't want to press charges until a day later or DPS just held onto it for a day.

Well because MPD wasn't notified because Public Safety wasn't even aware of the incident until 7:00PM the NEXT DAY....saying there is no evidence is false, because there is evidence.

[Benny B]

this is more of a response to the assertion we hear all over the place (not just on this board in regards to Belling, but also other like Glenn Beck or Limbaugh, as well as Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, etc on the left) that because someone is on the air a long time, has a lot of listeners, makes a lot of bank, that reaffirms what they do.  I think thats complete BS when talking about people who are paid to comment on the news and persuade the way people think about real political and social issues of the day.  
Just because you can sell an idea, doesn't reaffirm the points you are making on your shows.  People are willing to buy all sorts of ideas, particularly when they come into line with what they already want to think.  This is fine in clear cut commentary vs news, but that line has been smashed into oblivion.  So when people tune to Belling, Beck, or Olbermann instead of watching actual news or instead of seeking out one of the few unbiased sources we have left, the popularity each host generates does not justify their views.

I have yet to meet a liberal who became a conservative (or vice versa) after listening to talk radio.  The people that listen to Belling, Sykes, Maddow, Franken, etc. are people who already agree with the spew they hear.  True "independents" (if such even exists today) either A) don't listen to talk radio or B) listen to both conservative- and liberal-leaning talk radio but do not formulate their opinions based upon such.

[MUBurrow]

I have yet to meet a liberal who became a conservative (or vice versa) after listening to talk radio.  The people that listen to Belling, Sykes, Maddow, Franken, etc. are people who already agree with the spew they hear.  True "independents" (if such even exists today) either A) don't listen to talk radio or B) listen to both conservative- and liberal-leaning talk radio but do not formulate their opinions based upon such.

i think its the reaffirmation of those ideas thats the problem, not necessarily that people's basic political/social beliefs are altered.

[TheDOC816]

Well because MPD wasn't notified because Public Safety wasn't even aware of the incident until 7:00PM the NEXT DAY....saying there is no evidence is false, because there is evidence.

Well I was misinformed then, I had heard they were contacted.  But it still doesn't hid the fact that DPS covers up things that athletes do sometimes.  Back when TC was still here and half the basketball team got into a brawl at Sigma Chi but they just got scolded by the DPS chief.

[rocky_warrior]

Folks, if you're going to post on this thread, please try to stay on the content of what Belling said, and not your political beliefs with/against him.

[Mr. Nielsen]

What the hell is wrong with some of you? This is NOT about if you like Mark Belling or dislike like Mark Belling. Talk about in what he said about MU or get off!

[Ari Gold]

Listened to the Belling clip...

For me listening to Belling is more of a necessity than an choice. I'm not his biggest fan, but there are times when he really hits it. I also think he does a good job of getting breaking news/weather to his listeners. All things considered and without trying to start up a new debate I'm a much bigger fan of Sykes than Belling.

In many cases, Belling's sports opinions are off and a bit sensationalized. But he seems to brush off the Vander Blue incident and At least he makes the "victim" of the blue incident look like an f'n moron. In this time, he seems to be very level headed with regard to the athletes in these circumstances and criticizes the Public Relations of the School and Athletic Department -which seems more of a vendetta against the school. However, Belling does ask questions that people outside the program/school or casual fans would ask about the program.

Credit should be given to belling where its due: He's been in a fill in host for Rush limbaugh. Whether you like either of them or not, it speaks to where his career is at and the success he's had.

[wyzgy]

although belling doesn't excuse athletes behaviors, he admits that it can be somewhat of a crap shoot when recruiting these guys.  some of them come from tough backgrounds and taking that a step further, they either do not know how to interact appropriately in some situations and/or need to learn that they have a target on there backs and how to deal with it positively.  i'll be blunt here, in the hood, it's all about proving yourself, over and over and over until you hit it big time.  then you still have to watch your back.  i'm sure there are countless lectures the moment they step onto campus on what to expect.  some need to live out those moments in order to learn from them, some never do.  i believe buzz can help them through these moments and produce some good guys, as he already has.  in buzz we trust more than just a b-ball coach 

[Lennys Tap]

although belling doesn't excuse athletes behaviors, he admits that it can be somewhat of a crap shoot when recruiting these guys.  some of them come from tough backgrounds and taking that a step further, they either do not know how to interact appropriately in some situations and/or need to learn that they have a target on there backs and how to deal with it positively.  i'll be blunt here, in the hood, it's all about proving yourself, over and over and over until you hit it big time.  then you still have to watch your back.  i'm sure there are countless lectures the moment they step onto campus on what to expect.  some need to live out those moments in order to learn from them, some never do.  i believe buzz can help them through these moments and produce some good guys, as he already has.  in buzz we trust more than just a b-ball coach  

Spot on, wyzgy.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

although belling doesn't excuse athletes behaviors, he admits that it can be somewhat of a crap shoot when recruiting these guys.  some of them come from tough backgrounds and taking that a step further, they either do not know how to interact appropriately in some situations and/or need to learn that they have a target on there backs and how to deal with it positively.  i'll be blunt here, in the hood, it's all about proving yourself, over and over and over until you hit it big time.  then you still have to watch your back.  i'm sure there are countless lectures the moment they step onto campus on what to expect.  some need to live out those moments in order to learn from them, some never do.  i believe buzz can help them through these moments and produce some good guys, as he already has.  in buzz we trust more than just a b-ball coach 

Is Vander from "The hood"?

[Mr. Nielsen]

Is Vander from "The hood"?

Nobody said Vander is from "the hood"

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Is Vander from "The hood"?

JMM for life.   

[GGGG]

He's not from the hood, but he grew up in a poorer area of madison. Raised by a single mother with a dad who is in jail. I think coming from that to MU might be a tough transition.

[77ncaachamps]

Some folks from the hood fare better than those in rural areas.

[4everwarriors]

I'm a refugee from the hood my own self.

[BrewCity83]

Many folks from the rural areas think Marquette is in the hood.

[brewcity77]

Speaking of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about..If you don't listen, which by your own admission, you don't, how on earth are you qualified to comment on the quality of that show or the discussion that takes place?

BTW, it seems Vander Blue has a reputation now too. Are we all supposed to assume that he's a bad dude because his reputation says he is, even though we've never met him, or gotten to know anything about him? I could suggest that you have a reputation too...Milwaukee Fire Fighter I assume. A member of the union perhaps? Union members have a reputation of disagreeing with Mark Belling lately. Just sayin.

First, I don't listen because I have listened in the past and have had a chance to hear that he creates opinions without becoming informed on a topic.

Second, I wasn't always a firefighter, and the reputation he built isn't just as a pundit, but as a professional working in the media business. Having spent years working for news networks in Milwaukee, it's not just his on-air persona that has a reputation and that I have little patience for, it's his treatment of his co-workers. If you're a d-bag to the people whose job it is to make you look and sound good, the odds are you aren't worth my time.

And finally, you clearly haven't done much research into the union situation in Wisconsin, or you'd know that the Milwaukee Local 215 Firefighters Union supported Walker and hasn't come under any of the fire or scrutiny that has befallen other unions from Republican politicians and right-wing media, so the odds that my stance as a Union member would preclude me from listening to and supporting Belling strictly on that basis are pretty much zero.

I stand by what I said. He's little more than a troll who doesn't know what he's talking about and exists only to incite others.

[martyconlonontherun]

As someone who is somewhat conservative leaning (even though I am a public school teacher...Dont worry I have a free period right know) I find Belling an annoying hypocrite.  On one end of the spectrum he usually bad mouths Marquette whenever he possibly can. Yet he seems to be a Badger apologist more than anyone else.  Why is this hypocritical?  Because the University of Wisconsin is home to all sort of far left wing nut jobs and Marquette is one of the more conservative schools in the region. 

I also think that he uses language towards other races that only fuels the fire for some of the people that think Conservatives are racist.  (Remember the whole "WetBack" incident?)

Are you talking about political statements of the universities? I don't think Belling's view on college sports teams should be based on his political views.

[brandx]

For all the bickering that goes on on this board - there are a lot of knowledgeable people here. I'll read you guys anytime before I'll listen to someone who just wants to hear himself talk and whose opinions I could care less about.

[Mr. Nielsen]

I guess some of you can't stay on topic here.