alleged sexual assault investigation of 4 on 1 by public saftey

[Pakuni]

Go to the previous page and read the public record.  It clearly says Vander entered a not guilty plea via a defense attorney.  So he had a hearing and he probably spent a least $1000 on an attorney to enter this plea.

If it's not the big deal you say, why doesn't Vander pay the fine and move on?

Very few people "pay the fine and move on" in a case like this if they don't have to. And, frankly, those that do are idiots. This includes those who get a speeding ticket. Go to court, especially with an attorney, and the chances are you either get a much better disposition or the case gets dropped altogether. Prosecutors, police and judges are too busy to try these matters unless they have no choice, and don't want the hassle of trying to put together discovery, line up witnesses, spend time in court, etc., for a minor ordinance violation. The defendant that shows up in court a time or two and demands a trial is going to get a far better resolution (and one that keeps the disposition off his/her record) than the one who pays the fine to make it go away.

And, no, it doesn't cost $1,000 to get an attorney to enter a plea. Even Gerry Boyle's rates aren't that high, and it's unlikely he, rather than an associate, would show up in court on something like that.

[Tugg Speedman]

And, no, it doesn't cost $1,000 to get an attorney to enter a plea. Even Gerry Boyle's rates aren't that high, and it's unlikely he, rather than an associate, would show up in court on something like that.

Enter a plea and then return on the 19th to argue the case ... and in between do some sort of discovery ... $1,000 might be low.

[Tugg Speedman]

Vander Blue is hardly the first - nor will he be the last - Marquette basketball player involved in a fight on or around campus.

You this cavalier about sexual harassment too? 

[Golden Avalanche]

True, but in relation to the topic post and the punishments that could come down from that Vander's act seems pretty minor. This could end very badly. I am very concerned

Why so ominous?

[Golden Avalanche]

The arrest of Vander for the altercation is completely separate from the incident at Humphrey Hall.  They happened on different days.

The only way I get bothered by a college kid getting a fine for punching someone is if that said college kid was present for a possible sexual assault that same week.

Then, we'd have questions.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Vander Blue is hardly the first - nor will he be the last - Marquette basketball player STUDENT involved in a fight on or around campus.

Fixed.

Certainly we all want the players to always make good decisions, but they need to be compared to their peer group to provide some context.

[Pakuni]

You this cavalier about sexual harassment too? 

Yes, as well as serial killings, mass rape, CIA orchestrated assassinations, genital mutilation and genocide.

Congratulations on the worst attempt in MU Scoop history to link two entirely unrelated issues.

[Tugg Speedman]

The only way I get bothered by a college kid getting a fine for punching someone is if that said college kid was present for a possible sexual assault that same week.

Then, we'd have questions.

No one has been accused of sexual assault.

[wyzgy]

everybody has a bad week now and then, right

[BallBoy]

No one has been accused of sexual assault.

Actually they have been.  They were just found to have broken the sexual harassment policy by Marquette.  The accuser went to the police with claims of sexual assault.  The DA has not passed judgement on the case.

[Tugg Speedman]

Actually they have been.  They were just found to have broken the sexual harassment policy by Marquette.  The accuser went to the police with claims of sexual assault.  The DA has not passed judgement on the case.

You are correct ... MU investigated and found no evidence of sexual assault, but found evidence of sexual harassment.  The accuser was not satisfied with this result and months later took it tot he Milwaukee police.

[Hamostradamus]

Vander Blue is hardly the first - nor will he be the last - Marquette basketball player involved in a fight on or around campus.

WISN hasn't reported on this yet, apparently they were having trouble getting a quote from Derrick Wendler on the "word around campus."

[HouWarrior]

WISN hasn't reported on this yet, apparently they were having trouble getting a quote from Derrick Wendler on the "word around campus."

It is bad  lazy reporting to run around the MU campus hoping to muckrake some rumors circulating among the students.

I hope no student would validate that, or even talk to WISN reporters, except to share what they have direct personal knowledge of,....as repeating a hearsay rumor, that is not true,  is libel.

Has the word around campus ever been wrong? Trust your word and personal knowledge--but always be skeptical of that of others. Thanks.
 

[Coleman]

So...seeing as there's been no action on this thread in 4 days...is no news good news?

[Clam Crowder]

No no news means no news. Nothing will be true or false til May. Until then this is all speculation.