Why is jp tokoto announcing at ten at night?

[Ari Gold]

Talked to my friend's sister who is friends with JP and have class together:

JP is going to go to UNC, he's going to transfer to Oak Hill (looks like I was wrong about that)

JP doesn't want the presser, nor does he want to leave his friends in MF, but his dad thinks its his best. Looks like there is a little touch of maymon's dad going on here. JP's dad isn't a fan of what's been going on with the coaching at MF. But he's been doing a good job selling himself as a 'good dad'

[Lennys Tap]

I have to think elite players want competition, that's what drives them, that's what makes one better.  That's the whole point in going to a school like Duke, UNC, UCLA, etc....no guaranteed starts, you need to bust your butt against someone that is as good or maybe better than you everyday in practice. 

That's why Cody Z is headed to Bloomington. He'll get to go toe to toe with Tom Pritchard every day.

[Tugg Speedman]

Zero interest?  Disagree.  Interest enough to put it as the first story at 10:00pm?  Not a chance.  That's the difference.

And the reason you don't do it at 10AM, 4PM 6PM or 8PM is simple...we're in an internet age now.  The story is old news 5 minutes after he announces it.

I never suggested it was the LEAD.  I took "10PM" to be short-hand for the "news half hour" not the top of the local news show right at 10PM.

I'm suggesting it's a live cut in during the normal time of the sports segment, about 10:20ish.  

At this moment Tokoto ranking is not materially different than Maymon, Blue or Wilson.  I don't remember live cut-ins for their announcements.  So, if a live cut-in for Tokoto's announcement with the sports reporter introducing Wisconsin to a kid they never heard of, only to tell them he's the 30th best kid in the country, and then inform them he's going to college 800 miles away and leaving for VA thsi summer and never to be heard from in Wisconsin again, the station director that approved this should be fired for wasting resources.  Why does anyone in Wisconsin even remotely care about this story?

So, I suggested that maybe their is more to it.  Maybe he's going to say a local school and the news angle is the local school beat out the juggernaut that is UNC.  Even that is a weak angle but it makes more sense than to spend resources to tell Wisconsin about a kid that is leaving the state for good.

[T-Bone]

I have to think elite players want competition, that's what drives them, that's what makes one better.   

I agree.  I hope he wants competition no matter where his decision takes him.  

[Jumping Jesuit]

+2 cents
It's the kid's moment, with his family and friends.  Let him enjoy it, whatever that decision may be.  And let him still be a kid.  He's doing what he can to make the best decision for himself and his family.

I hear what you are saying, but it is not exactly a moment for just him and his family and friends.  His father made it a point to tell the media that he would be making his announcement at D&B.  If it was just a private moment, he could easily call any involved schools from his home and let those schools make the public announcements on their own.  With that said, I wish the best for him, regardless where he decides to play.

[Pakuni]

I hear what you are saying, but it is not exactly a moment for just him and his family and friends.  His father made it a point to tell the media that he would be making his announcement at D&B.  If it was just a private moment, he could easily call any involved schools from his home and let those schools make the public announcements on their own.  With that said, I wish the best for him, regardless where he decides to play.

Problem is, several media outlets are going to want to speak with him about his decision. Rather than take several phone calls/interview requests from several outlets, repeating the same answers to the same questions over and over, he can hold a press conference and be done with it.

[Knight Commission]

Can't wait until next April. Ol Roy wants an answer.

Choosing a school based on tobacco spitting?  I hope not.  

According to the Chicago Tribune, that booger-eating Tom Kleinschmidt, picked DePaul over ND, because Digger winked at his mom at one of his high school games, coming across as too arrogant.

That stuff happens.

[Lennys Tap]

According to the Chicago Tribune, Tom Kleinschmidt picked DePaul over ND, because Digger winked at his mom at one of his high school games, coming across as too arrogant.

That stuff happens.

Digger was flat out arrogant.

[4everwarriors]

Flysheet shoulda gone to ND anyway.

[ChicosBailBonds]

That's why Cody Z is headed to Bloomington. He'll get to go toe to toe with Tom Pritchard every day.

Probably more like the other 4 and 5 star guys he'll be playing with in the years after....or perhaps because like UNC, IU is one of the top programs of all-time and he wants to play at one of the top programs of all-time.....perhaps you forgot that part....why yes, you did.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Another84, I sure took it as the top story.  I think a few others did as well.  If you meant the normal sports bit that lasts 3 minutes, by all means I agree with you.  That's where it should go.

[mu ricer22]

Talked to my friend's sister who is friends with JP and have class together:

JP is going to go to UNC, he's going to transfer to Oak Hill (looks like I was wrong about that)

JP doesn't want the presser, nor does he want to leave his friends in MF, but his dad thinks its his best. Looks like there is a little touch of maymon's dad going on here. JP's dad isn't a fan of what's been going on with the coaching at MF. But he's been doing a good job selling himself as a 'good dad'

I talked to my friend's grandma who's nephew's son's friend is a friend of JP and he said that he is going to MU. That message might of changed many times and might be wrong but just saying.

[Jumping Jesuit]

Problem is, several media outlets are going to want to speak with him about his decision. Rather than take several phone calls/interview requests from several outlets, repeating the same answers to the same questions over and over, he can hold a press conference and be done with it.

Good point.  And I didn't think of that.  Though, you can still invite the media to your house, gym, etc. and make the announcement without announcing, beforehand, where and when you plan to announce your announcement.  Good luck to him, wherever he goes.

[mugrad2006]

Probably more like the other 4 and 5 star guys he'll be playing with in the years after....or perhaps because like UNC, IU is one of the top programs of all-time and he wants to play at one of the top programs of all-time.....perhaps you forgot that part....why yes, you did.

Just because a program was a top program 23 years ago (last time they won the tourney) or 8 years ago (last time they made the final four) does not mean they will always be a top program. 

San Francisco is one of only fourteen teams to ever win more than one NCAA championship, but they haven't been relevant for years. 

Temple and Houston have been two of the most dominant basketball programs in NCAA history, but nobody's flocking there.  Before you say it's because they're not in a power conference anymore, look at Arkansas, 10th all time in final four appearances. 

Situations change, and programs change.  None of the kids on Indiana's team were alive the last time they won a championship, and I hardly think it holds the same cachet it used to.  Knight's final years put a black eye on the program, and Sampson really drove a dagger through it.  Maybe Crean can make them a national presence again, but I don't they're a top 10 storied program anymore.

[MUfan12]

I talked to my friend's grandma who's nephew's son's friend is a friend of JP and he said that he is going to MU. That message might of changed many times and might be wrong but just saying.

It may sound like that, but I trust that Ari's info is good.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Just because a program was a top program 23 years ago (last time they won the tourney) or 8 years ago (last time they made the final four) does not mean they will always be a top program.  

San Francisco is one of only fourteen teams to ever win more than one NCAA championship, but they haven't been relevant for years.  

Temple and Houston have been two of the most dominant basketball programs in NCAA history, but nobody's flocking there.  Before you say it's because they're not in a power conference anymore, look at Arkansas, 10th all time in final four appearances.  

Situations change, and programs change.  None of the kids on Indiana's team were alive the last time they won a championship, and I hardly think it holds the same cachet it used to.  Knight's final years put a black eye on the program, and Sampson really drove a dagger through it.  Maybe Crean can make them a national presence again, but I don't they're a top 10 storied program anymore.

Can't your same argument be made about MU around 1999...on Sweet 16 in 20+ years, two NCAA wins in years and years.....then something happened and we became relevant again.  It doesn't matter if you buy it, the question is if recruits do.

Incidentally, every top programs of all-time poll in the last decade has IU in the top 7, some as high as 5.  

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/1004/cbe1.pdf

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/28116552/ns/sports-college_basketball/

http://www.rankopedia.com/Greatest-All-Time-Men%27s-College-Basketball-Program/Step1/825/.htm

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/blog/?p=128

Etc

[mugrad2006]

Can't your same argument be made about MU around 1999...on Sweet 16 in 20+ years, two NCAA wins in years and years.....then something happened and we became relevant again.  It doesn't matter if you buy it, the question is if recruits do.

Incidentally, every top programs of all-time poll in the last decade has IU in the top 7, some as high as 5. 

Sure, that argument can be applied to Marquette.  But I'm not running around claiming MU is an all-time top ten program, nor do I believe that our NCAA championship from '77 attracts recruits.  Outside of a very select few, it's about 'what have you done for me lately' program results and who's coaching.  Look at what happened to Michigan since their scandal in the 90's...

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I wouldn't say all, but certainly many markets.  How good looking the talent is can sway my opinion.

I will watch a shitty newscast if the biscuit is tasty.

[mugrad2006]

Can't your same argument be made about MU around 1999...on Sweet 16 in 20+ years, two NCAA wins in years and years.....then something happened and we became relevant again.  It doesn't matter if you buy it, the question is if recruits do.

Incidentally, every top programs of all-time poll in the last decade has IU in the top 7, some as high as 5.  

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/1004/cbe1.pdf

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/28116552/ns/sports-college_basketball/

http://www.rankopedia.com/Greatest-All-Time-Men%27s-College-Basketball-Program/Step1/825/.htm

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/blog/?p=128

Etc

I was with you on the rankings (sort of) until you put 'rank-o-pedia' on there.  Probably should have left that one off.

To highlight my point, look at these rankings on the ESPN list Iowa:10 Oklahoma State:18 DePaul:26.  All time results may put these teams up there.  But things like massive sanctions happen and it can damage a team for decades.

In fact, the CBS article makes this comment After Knight left, Indiana has only won 17.7 games per season, but the wealth of accomplishments they collected during his tenure is enough to secure the #7 spot on this list.

Maybe it isn't Indiana that has the tradition to influence current players, but Knight himself.  As time goes on, Indiana stops being as storied a school, no matter how you qualify it.

[TVDirector]

1.
it won't be a live announcement at 10pm.
local news will not lead with a live shot of this... period.
it 'might' be at 10, with the announcement being taped for the sports segment which could be done live later in the show.

2.
not all news stations run their sports at exactly the same time, so a delay for all local news to cover is unlikely.
1 station, maybe live. 2 or 3, nope.

3.
if it's a satellite truck, it's ESPN or NC tv... local would be microwave.
satellite is for long haul transmission only.
that could be a clue, if the terminology was used correctly.

4.
what does Lyndon Baynes Johnson have to do with this discussion anyway?

[4everwarriors]

I will watch a crapty newscast if the biscuit is tasty.

Hell, I even watched Erin interview cats at the Oscars.

[texaswarrior74]

If these facts as I understand them are correct, here's what I'm thinking ....

The live segment will take 2 minutes.

30 seconds for the reporter to explain Tokoto (top HS BBaller) and that he about to make a decision that has the top colleges in the nation waiting for (mention the list of schools).

30 seconds, Tokoto says I'm going too ...  crowd in D&B reacts.

60 seconds, why that school.

Thanks and back to the studio.

This is what Live TV means and why this type of announcement is good news for the local schools.

AnotherMU84

Quick question.....and not to be disrespectful but, do you think that repeating this over and over will somehow make it come true?

It IS big news that a local kid is being recruited by UNC....go back through the archives of the MF newspaper and look at the big deal they made each time Roy came to visit....pictures and all....

I have a hard time believing he'd pick UW since he has come out and said he hates slow paced play....the move to another HS comes at the suggestion of Roy......sorry to say it but he's a Heel......

[Knight Commission]

1.
it won't be a live announcement at 10pm.
local news will not lead with a live shot of this... period.
it 'might' be at 10, with the announcement being taped for the sports segment which could be done live later in the show.

2.
not all news stations run their sports at exactly the same time, so a delay for all local news to cover is unlikely.
1 station, maybe live. 2 or 3, nope.

3.
if it's a satellite truck, it's ESPN or NC tv... local would be microwave.
satellite is for long haul transmission only.
that could be a clue, if the terminology was used correctly.

4.
what does Lyndon Baynes Johnson have to do with this discussion anyway?

The satelite vs microwave clue has swung me back in the UNC camp.....

[Benny B]

Incidentally, every top programs of all-time poll in the last decade has IU in the top 7, some as high as 5.  

IU is probably the worst example you could find to demonstrate the point you're trying to make.

Maybe it isn't Indiana that has the tradition to influence current players, but Knight himself.  As time goes on, Indiana stops being as storied a school, no matter how you qualify it.

Bazinga.  IU Basketball is like France... culture, tradition, a power to be reckoned with at one point in time, but resigned themselves years ago to being someone's punch line for the remainder of eternity.

[ChicosBailBonds]

IU is probably the worst example you could find to demonstrate the point you're trying to make.

I provided the links, they are what they are.  When you see who they have coming in for 2012, 2013 and 2014, hard to argue with the lure.  We all know those kids aren't going there for TC....right?