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JakeBarnes

It's clear that JP moved the time back to 10 CST to help promote the $10 eat and play at Dave and Busters. Sometimes you gotta have some ski ball with your chicken tenders...
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

Canned Goods n Ammo

It will be UNC.

Believing otherwise is far too optimistic.

BCHoopster

Quote from: willie warrior on March 01, 2011, 04:12:57 PM
Where did you hear this about the tobacco?


Reliable sources, see what happens Thursday.

ringout

Quote from: 2002MUalum on March 01, 2011, 04:21:16 PM
It will be UNC.

Believing otherwise is far too optimistic.

I agree with you because he just returned from UNC and I'm sure Roy is pushing him for a decision.  I just don't get the upside of announcing on prime time news if he's going to Carolina.

TallTitan34

Tobacco chewing isn't sending JP to tobacco road.

Ari Gold

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 01, 2011, 04:18:49 PM
If this announcement is the top story of the local news in Milwaukee on Thursday night then we might want to relocate the campus out of the city of Milwaukee.  There is ZERO justification to make this the top story in a "major" market.  ZERO.

Just because he is accomodating the local news doesn't mean they will have a live look-in at 10:00am.  I sure as hell hope not.  With the world the way it is, and certainly bigger issues in Wisconsin and Milwaukee right now, even the notion this would be the top story is concerning.  If it truly is, then Milwaukee media needs to get it's priorities in order.

It wont be 'live.' Too much danger in something going wrong live. It'll be a tape delay. Brew City got it mostly right storywise. Cept if he announces after 7 or before 10, he won't get all of the press he wants. ESPN can't cover anything in that time, twitter will already have the information out and local news will just make a passing note of it in the sports section with some B-roll.

rocky_warrior

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Quote from: BCHoopster on March 01, 2011, 04:26:57 PM
Reliable sources, see what happens Thursday.

LOL, I can see it on ESPN now "JP Tokoto announced he is signing with UNC.  He was strongly considering Marquette, but his mom found Buzz Williams chewing tobacco and spitting to be gross"

The beautiful part about your rumor, it that it can probably never be proven or disproved.  Well done.

Fullodds

I heard Vander changed his mind and came to MU because Bo Ryan didn't chew tobacco and drank bud light.

El Duderino

For those that have watched Tokoto play high school ball, i have a few questions


1. Why hasn't he been able to lead his team to more success? Is it just that his team around him pretty much sucks?

2. Is his overall game still fairly unrefined and thus he mainly gets by on his fabulous athletic gifts?

3. Is there a chance that he could have some struggles as a college freshman like Vander has had, but not to the same level or is it likely that he'll be very good right away?

radome

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 01, 2011, 04:32:50 PM
LOL, I can see it on ESPN now "JP Tokoto announced he is signing with UNC.  He was strongly considering Marquette, but his mom found Buzz Williams chewing tobacco and spitting to be gross"

The beautiful part about your rumor, it that it can probably never be proven or disproved.  Well done.
Don't they grow the stuff in NC?  Must be going to UW.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Ari Gold on March 01, 2011, 04:32:38 PM
It wont be 'live.' Too much danger in something going wrong live. It'll be a tape delay. Brew City got it mostly right storywise. Cept if he announces after 7 or before 10, he won't get all of the press he wants. ESPN can't cover anything in that time, twitter will already have the information out and local news will just make a passing note of it in the sports section with some B-roll.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/117106368.html
Tokoto will announce his college decision on Thursday at 10 p.m. The late start time is to accommodate TV stations' interest, Trimble said.

Tape delay make zero sense.  Then do it at 10AM, 4PM 6PM or 8PM.  10PM to "accommodate TV stations' interest" means live cut in with the decision.

Now, this could change or the facts as explained above might be misleading or misstated.

That said, I completely agree with Chicos that Tokoto's announcement has ZERO news interest for Wisconsin TV.  Let me repeat ZERO interest.  That's why I said the only reason they might be covering it is they think Roy is about to get a facial from either MU or UW.  Otherwise, I have to question the station that wastes money to send a truck and reporter to Mayfair Wisconsin to cover a Milwaukee area kid ranked 30th in the nation announcing he's going to UNC.  

TallTitan34

It means nothing, but just to see more twists in the plot....

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1628720255

Bronson Koenig's facebook picture is him with JP and Jordan Taylor in Wisconsin's locker room.

VegasWarrior77

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butchbadger

1. Why hasn't he been able to lead his team to more success? Is it just that his team around him pretty much sucks? They have no other talent. Hard for a non-guard to dominate by himself

2. Is his overall game still fairly unrefined and thus he mainly gets by on his fabulous athletic gifts?
Yes.  Can't shoot at all.  NO real post moves either.  The times I have seen him he has scored off of passes and mostly put backs.  Good overall feel for the game and decent passer.  I was concerned I never saw him break into a full sprint in two games.  Smooth.  A freak athlete whose game skills need a lot of work. 

3. Is there a chance that he could have some struggles as a college freshman like Vander has had, but not to the same level or is it likely that he'll be very good right away? Yes.  I thought VB's overall game was way farther along than JPT's even though he received no coaching in high school. 

He will be good on the break and if he has a good PG he will finish around the hoop. Like VB, he has tons of upside.



ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2011, 05:51:13 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/117106368.html
Tokoto will announce his college decision on Thursday at 10 p.m. The late start time is to accommodate TV stations' interest, Trimble said.

Tape delay make zero sense.  Then do it at 10AM, 4PM 6PM or 8PM.  10PM to "accommodate TV stations' interest" means live cut in with the decision.

Now, this could change or the facts as explained above might be misleading or misstated.

That said, I completely agree with Chicos that Tokoto's announcement has ZERO news interest for Wisconsin TV.  Let me repeat ZERO interest.  That's why I said the only reason they might be covering it is they think Roy is about to get a facial from either MU or UW.  Otherwise, I have to question the station that wastes money to send a truck and reporter to Mayfair Wisconsin to cover a Milwaukee area kid ranked 30th in the nation announcing he's going to UNC.  


Zero interest?  Disagree.  Interest enough to put it as the first story at 10:00pm?  Not a chance.  That's the difference.

And the reason you don't do it at 10AM, 4PM 6PM or 8PM is simple...we're in an internet age now.  The story is old news 5 minutes after he announces it.

NersEllenson

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 01, 2011, 04:18:49 PM
If this announcement is the top story of the local news in Milwaukee on Thursday night then we might want to relocate the campus out of the city of Milwaukee.  There is ZERO justification to make this the top story in a "major" market.  ZERO.

Just because he is accomodating the local news doesn't mean they will have a live look-in at 10:00am.  I sure as hell hope not.  With the world the way it is, and certainly bigger issues in Wisconsin and Milwaukee right now, even the notion this would be the top story is concerning.  If it truly is, then Milwaukee media needs to get it's priorities in order.

In my opinion , one of the oldest and lamest "jokes" going is the ripping of local news channels - in any market. When I was at MU, most kids from outside WI ripped MKE news.  People from major cities all seem to think their local news is superior to other cities local news.  Like you Chicos - I travel a fair amount for work and see plenty of local newscasts - there is little differentiation, and all have their warts.

And as far as choosing to run with this as the top story or lead - I see nothing wrong with it - WI has very few highly sought after BBall players - so this isn't an everyday occurrence.  furthermore - the whole WI politics thing has been played out on the local and national media enough already.
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ChicosBailBonds

They have to consider their audience.  Only about 25% of Americans give a rip about sports, the folks that care about high school and college sports is even smaller.  You have some major things going on in the state, the Middle East is in hyper drive even for them, etc, etc.  Yes, Milwaukee news is a lot more provincial than LA news, I'm sure we all get that because it has that "we a big city but we care about all the small stuff" news mentality. 

But if this guy's decision is the lead story, I'd be surprised.  It's newsworthy, and there should be plenty of interest (despite what ANother84 was saying), but it should not be the top story of the day to tell people where he's going to play and get a scholarship for the next 4 years.  I wish the kid nothing but the best, but there are way more important stories affecting people's lives than to have this be the lead.

MUEng92

I have talked to more people who follow both MU and UW that have never heard the name JP Tokoto than people who have heard of him.  Factor in the fact that the majority of the general population doesn't care about college basketball outside of late March as well as the fact that happenings in a different section of Madison are national news much less local news...  I can't see any way this announcement is the lead story on any network Thursday night.  I'm not entirely convinced it would be outside of the normal 2.5 minutes of sports Milwaukee stations normally have.  They can't give up the 10 min of weather!




butchbadger

99.9 % of Milwaukeeans have no idea who he is. :-\

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: butchbadger on March 01, 2011, 07:19:55 PM
99.9 % of Milwaukeeans have no idea who he is. :-\

Which, quite frankly, is how it SHOULD be.

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NickelDimer

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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 01, 2011, 07:26:27 PM
Ners. Chicos. All local news sucks ass.

I wouldn't say all, but certainly many markets.  How good looking the talent is can sway my opinion.

T-Bone

Amazed this thread is still on track (pardoning the brief discussion of local news sucking).

Being a 2012 recruit, he will have competition from Ferguson at the SF position. 
I wouldn't put to much stock into how he looks his junior year of HS, especially in comparison to Vander (different players/styles/ages).   JP's game might change considerably as he adds muscle onto his frame. 
I'm like a turtle, sometimes I get run over by a semi.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: T-Bone on March 01, 2011, 07:49:18 PM
Amazed this thread is still on track (pardoning the brief discussion of local news sucking).

Being a 2012 recruit, he will have competition from Ferguson at the SF position. 
I wouldn't put to much stock into how he looks his junior year of HS, especially in comparison to Vander (different players/styles/ages).   JP's game might change considerably as he adds muscle onto his frame. 


I have to think elite players want competition, that's what drives them, that's what makes one better.  That's the whole point in going to a school like Duke, UNC, UCLA, etc....no guaranteed starts, you need to bust your butt against someone that is as good or maybe better than you everyday in practice. 

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