Marquette-South Carolina 1972

[MUMac]

MuMac---Wish UCLA had beaten NCState in '74. We had better chance to win, I think, and MU-UCLA for all the marbles would have been something else.

Agree on both fronts.  I really wanted UCLA for both reasons - better matchup, especially in Greensboro, and finally get a chance to play UCLA.

For the youngun's, back then the tourney was truly regionalized.  MU was always in the toughest region - Kentucky, Big 10 champ ...  UCLA was in the weakest and had an easy road to the Final 4.  I always wanted Al to get his shot against UCLA.  Unfortunately, it was to never happen.

To also put it in perspective, UCLA had the best decade ever in college basketball in the '70's.  MU had the 3rd best decade ever also in the '70's.  Yet, the two never met.

[groove]

Found the 1074 final four highlight film on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMtGTxKpOz8

that's the first part of three. You can get the other two parts from there.

[Goose]

Nice grove. Boy that was a long time ago

[groove]

Doesnt marquette have a film archive of some of these games. I seem to remember seeing a list that you could search on one of the mu site pages.

[groove]

No vintage warrior video out there?

[mileskishnish72]

Remember that Sun. afternoon game really well also - got too pumped over the fight and couldn't study any more that day.
I thought the deal with Brell was that he wouldn't look at the flag during the anthem - Viet Nam related?

[Dr. Blackheart]

Found the 1074 final four highlight film on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMtGTxKpOz8

that's the first part of three. You can get the other two parts from there.

Although he blew the NC, both of Al's T's were legit gripes. 

[groove]

Although he blew the NC, both of Al's T's were legit gripes. 

Yeah, that offensive foul was horrendous.

[MUMac]

Although he blew the NC, both of Al's T's were legit gripes. 

Still remember the give and take between Al and Lucas.  Maurice said to Al that he cost them the championship.  Al said back that they wouldn't have been there if not for Al.

[groove]

Not as much give and take as there was between Toone and Al three years later

[MUMac]

Not as much give and take as there was between Toone and Al three years later

That is correct.  Bo also walked out a few times and Al had to talk him back, but likely not as "feisty" as Luke or Bernard!

Imagine the message boards today if Al were the coach?  My, the drama was constant at times.

[Goose]

I firmly believe that Al's T's against NCState were to take pressure off the team. We were in an almost no-win environment that night. The T's pissed me off at the time as time passed I learned to appreciate them.

Now the T's again in Indiana in '76 are another story. We were in very tough spot that day, but I still believe we could have won that game.

[leever]

Anyone recall an exchange between George "sugar" Frazier and Al regarding playing time?  Seems to me thatFrazier approached Al and asked why he either wasn't starting or wasn't getting more playing time because he felt he was as good as Allie.  I think Al's response was something like "Yes, you are just as good as Allie, but Allie's my son, so you'll need to be a lot better than him to play more / start.

[Goose]

Leever---Al was a tad more blunt with "Sugar" on the topic. Several different versions of what was exactly said have surfaced over the years. Allie was a solid player and I learned to like his game a great deal.

[leever]

Thanks Goose!  And I'm sure he was more blunt!  Also, agreed on Allie.  He was definitely not playing just because he was the coaches son.  Solid, if unspectacular.

[Earl Tatum]

 
The one South Carolina-Marquette game I remember was civilized. MU had  like five fouls called on them in the opening 2 minutes. SC had Alex English, Brian Winters, Mike Dunleavy.
Al called time -- hollered at the ref  "This is my place you can't do that". The game turned
around and MU won in a rout.

[MUFC9295]

my bad... its been a while.  ignore.

[Goose]

4ever
The national anthem will be in mind forever. I was 9 years old and wanted to jump through TV and join the fight. When they played national anthem I knew it was bigger than a ball fight. Another life lesson learned by being an Al and MU fan.

[mileskishnish72]

The thing that always made me laugh was: Al was just sitting on the bench with his legs crossed, and we all knew what that meant.

Did Al have a signal for "Let's beat the crap out of them"? Funny.

[4everwarriors]

We need Lackey to beat da chit outta some 'Cocks, ai na?

[MU82]

For me, the signal that ended the Al era was when we lost to De Paul in the tourney.  MU had the lead, and lost it.  That was bad enough, but watching De Paul beat us twice that year and with players who likely would have been at MU if Al stayed was a kick to the groin.

This was my freshman year, so I wasn't at MU for Al. I knew about him, of course, but not as well as Goose, 4ever and others a bit older than me. My loss (although I'm not sad I'm younger - ha!).

That DePaul loss was a killer. We effen had 'em. 8 point lead and the ball. Sam throws a long pass just out of Toone's reach. If they connect, it's a dunk, a 10-point lead and we take the air out of the ball, making it difficult for DePaul to come back. Instead, we choke away the lead and DePaul goes on to play in one of the more memorable Final Fours - the one with Bird and Magic!

[Goose]

MU82

You actually appear to be several years older than I am. I started at MU in '81. I started going to games in '67, the year my parents started getting season tickets.
IMO, the Al era ended on a rainy, late March evening in 1977.

[#UnleashSean]

Huh weird never knew you could leave in the middle of the season for the aba

[muwarrior69]

Plus it was on a Sunday and nationally televised

TVS, Television Sports Network, usually syndicated on one of the local independent channels. Living in New Jersey I would check their schedule to see how many MU games I would get to see, priceless.

Just curious, how many MU games were televised in Milwaukee back in the 70s?
I got my share of Princeton/Penn and St. Johns games here Jersey.

[LloydsLegs]

Best.  Thread.  Ever. 

Don't stop fellas; keep educated the youngins (including this member of the class of '86).