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Marquette65

Took some time to read the board so I would not repeat. There seems to be an attitude of " well we expected to lose so its no big deal".  That SHOULD NEVER be the attitude.  MU got its butt kicked which should raise and does raise many interesting questions such as" does MU have BEAST caliber players and how many? Which is another way of saying how many would start for Pitt? Where is the talked about depth of this team? Play 8 guys- one of which has decided he is not even going to look for a shot

Sure TV didn't show but BUZZ just ripped JC and Chris O a new one twice. It was brutal on both occasions.  BUZZ was red in the face both times and continued the blasting even after the time out when they returned to the bench.  When does a coach's intensity wear thin and the kids stop listening? ( that is not a rip on Buzz just raising the question).

This team showed no life, no zipp. MU lacks a floor leader badly

NoCheese

We played a talented team that starts three seniors and two juniors. We never gave up and they shot lights out from 3 point range. What the hell do you expect?

Blackhat

keep a team from shooting 70%.  that's a pretty good start.

start handing out bloody noses on lay ups, do something.


Buzz tries to teach D, i have no doubt.  it just looks like his  teaching doesn't get across.

  Unlike a Bo where you see excellent help D damn near every game they play, no matter the opponent.

chren21

Quote from: Stone Cold on January 09, 2011, 11:43:02 AM
start handing out bloody noses on lay ups, do something.

I agree with this.  When that big ugly guy got the ball rather then let him dunk, grab his arm before he even gets the ball up.  His FT's were terrible and others besides Crowder had fouls to give.

NCMUFan

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I figured out what is going wrong.  Marquette65 watching the games has jinxed us.  The facts.
Marquette65 Watched: Pitts, Vanderbilt: Losses
Marquette65 Absent: Rutgers: Win.
What more need I say?

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Marquette65 on January 09, 2011, 11:27:56 AM
MU got its butt kicked

Please explain more.  I saw some bad defense, but hardly a butt-kicking in terms of the game as a whole.  Nobody is excusing a loss, but well, if you expected to win then you haven't seen Pitt enough this year.  As I stated days before the game, we needed them to have a bad game, and we needed to have a good game. 

Fortunately, we had a good game offensively, but our defense couldn't force them into a bad game.

Henry Sugar

Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 09, 2011, 03:20:14 PM
Fortunately, we had a good game offensively, but our defense couldn't force them anyone into a bad game.

fixed
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Golden Avalanche

Quote from: Marquette65 on January 09, 2011, 11:27:56 AM
Took some time to read the board so I would not repeat. There seems to be an attitude of " well we expected to lose so its no big deal".  That SHOULD NEVER be the attitude.  MU got its butt kicked which should raise and does raise many interesting questions such as" does MU have BEAST caliber players and how many? Which is another way of saying how many would start for Pitt? Where is the talked about depth of this team? Play 8 guys- one of which has decided he is not even going to look for a shot

Sure TV didn't show but BUZZ just ripped JC and Chris O a new one twice. It was brutal on both occasions.  BUZZ was red in the face both times and continued the blasting even after the time out when they returned to the bench.  When does a coach's intensity wear thin and the kids stop listening? ( that is not a rip on Buzz just raising the question).

This team showed no life, no zipp. MU lacks a floor leader badly

There were whispers that Buzz lost this team more then a month ago.

NoCheese

Get on the bus or get run over by the bus

PE8983

"There were whispers that Buzz lost this team more then a month ago."
Please elaborate.

Aughnanure

No one here ever seen Frank Martin coach (who Buzz has a very good relationship with)?
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Aughnanure

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Quote from: Marquette65 on January 09, 2011, 11:27:56 AM
Sure TV didn't show but BUZZ just ripped JC and Chris O a new one twice. It was brutal on both occasions.  BUZZ was red in the face both times and continued the blasting even after the time out when they returned to the bench.  When does a coach's intensity wear thin and the kids stop listening? ( that is not a rip on Buzz just raising the question).

I get your concern, but how many sports do you watch? This criticism can be applied to nearly EVERY team in sports that is concerned about their team.
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Blackhat

Frank doesn't have to worry about defense because he just buys a bunch of bigs. 

Ain't nobody going to Kansas State to play b-ball unless they're on a payroll.

avid1010

Quote from: Marquette65 on January 09, 2011, 11:27:56 AM
This team showed no life, no zipp. MU lacks a floor leader badly

I thought they did...losing to Pitt. by 8 at their place isn't the end of the world.  Do they lack a leader?  Maybe, but if they can walk into Pitt and show no life/zip and only lose by 8 they should be able to win the NCAA tourney if they just show some life/zip on a neutral court...definitely won't lose a home game.

avid1010

Quote from: Stone Cold on January 09, 2011, 11:43:02 AM
  Unlike a Bo where you see excellent help D damn near every game they play, no matter the opponent.

If you want a Bo type team...then compare offense and defense.  UW surely plays better defense, but they recruit for defense and they play offense for defense.  I don't want Buzz to play that type of ball.  Do I think he can improve MU's defense, no doubt, but UW's FG% and PPG are far from stellar.  According to your logic Bo should learn how to coach offense from Buzz.  If it were only that easy...

Blackhat

substitute in coach K, Turgeon, whoever.

We're 94th in the country.....that's atrocious.  You can play up tempo and efficient offense and not need to be a mess, giving up lay ups, WIDE open threes on D.

CTWarrior

Quote from: Stone Cold on January 09, 2011, 08:46:09 PM
substitute in coach K, Turgeon, whoever.

We're 94th in the country.....that's atrocious.  You can play up tempo and efficient offense and not need to be a mess, giving up lay ups, WIDE open threes on D.
It all goes back to the same thing over and over again.  We need big people who can play basketball.  We stretch to harrass the 3 and we get killed on the boards.  We pack it in to give our big people rebounding help and we give up the open 3.

I will say our problems are compounded by Buzz's defensive system with constant switching.  Our big men are often trapping 25 feet from the basket and we subsequently get beat for easy shots by teams that can pass the ball (which is pretty much everyone we play from now on).
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Galway03

Just perhaps----scout/game plan--Defense way to passive. Pitt missed 7 shots in 2nd half, got 4 O boards and shot 65% ???? Lucky to be within 8. If your going to sag-ya better rebound.

NersEllenson

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on January 09, 2011, 07:33:01 PM
There were whispers that Buzz lost this team more then a month ago.

Give it up already.  The team has been playing its best basketball in the last month.  Haven't seen the team quit on Buzz, or in a game.  The whispers you refer to - I'm sure - are from those fellow Tom Crean fanboys.  Speaking of which, how are things going at Indiana currently?  6 losses in a row.  Most impressive win thus far over Evansville. 

If you are going to make assinine comments like the above, at least make sure the on court evidence suggests as much.
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: PE8983 on January 09, 2011, 08:14:14 PM
"There were whispers that Buzz lost this team more then a month ago."
Please elaborate.


Conference call between Golden, Chicos, Willie, and nomorebuycks. All very inside, all very hush hush.

tower912

Even the Miami Heat were .500 for their first 20 or so games.   Building chemistry between a bunch of guys who haven't played together before takes time.   They are getting there.   And the one thing that can't be complained about is effort and hustle.   Just have to get them efforting and hustling as one on defense.   
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Aughnanure

Quote from: Stone Cold on January 09, 2011, 08:29:30 PM
Frank doesn't have to worry about defense because he just buys a bunch of bigs.  

Ain't nobody going to Kansas State to play b-ball unless they're on a payroll.

Wow, you know absolutely nothing about Kansas State. Frank doesnt worry about D? Thats laughable. Thanks for the lack of any actual insight.
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willie warrior

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 10, 2011, 08:49:42 AM

Conference call between Golden, Chicos, Willie, and nomorebuycks. All very inside, all very hush hush.
Sorry Lenny. I did not particpate in any conference call. I do remember a post about Buzz having lost the team. I do not remember who posted it. I don't know if Buzz lost the team--I think almost all of them are still there, except Reggie.

On a related matter, I do understand what the monicker Nomorebuycks implies, but can anybody enlighten us on what Morecowbells implies?

I sure hope we kick ND's ass tonight.
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wyzgy

you can only stretch a rubber so far before she breaks-buzz better be careful cuz it could snap right back in to his face.  i like buzz a lot BUT his constant screaming...some guys can handle it others, not so good.  i think the same happened with crean-diener and a few others

willie warrior

Quote from: Ners on January 10, 2011, 08:37:47 AM
.  The team has been playing its best basketball in the last month.  Haven't seen the team quit on Buzz, or in a game. 

Not sure that I agree that we have played our best basketball in past month. We are 4-3 duting that time, with all 3 losses against quality opponents, and the 4 wins were: 3 against cupcakes, and 1 against a middle of pack BEast team this year, West Va.
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