Crean Opinion

[mikem91288]

This latest Crean thread has some of the most action of any thread I've seen in a few weeks. I'm a current MU student, and I always get S**T when I am Tom Crean's only defender when me and the guys are chatting about Marquette Basketball. Most students all hate him and boo him when his picture comes up on the intro at games. I never boo him. I say to them, Crean got us Dwayne Wade - he took a chance on Wade. Sure he got  lucky as to how great DWade became, but he went to bat for a kid that had terrible grades coming in here. Students here love Dom James, Wes, and Jerel, but I've never heard them say "Wow that was a really great job by Tom Crean to get those three guys here in that class". Somehow that has been forgotten too. I mean the list goes on from Diener, Novak, Robert Jackson, you get the picture. Was the way Crean left pretty shady? Yes. Did I think he was a huge dbag when he was on ESPN saying "It's Indiana"? - Yes. But I still realize what he did for this program and do not hate him - unlike 99% of my fellow students which to me is a disappointment. Heck many students admit they first heard of Marquette when we made the Final Four under Crean. Fake tanning and diet  pepsis aside, what do you all think? Am I crazy or just telling it like it is?

[chapman]

Two years too late.  Will it never end?

[MU B2002]

You forgot to add a line about disliking the GE nickname.

[4everwarriors]

You're young, you'll learn.

[martyconlonontherun]

I agree. Broken record.

I just find it funny, the people who hate Crean the most were people that thought he was the greatest at Marquette. It's also the same people who won't let people say anything negative about Buzz. All NCAA coaches have their flaws.

[Blackhat]

I've ripped Buzz repeatedly on this site when our defense has sucked and I was one of his biggest backers to have him hired.

Not seeing the restrictions there (although I don't remember what 99% of posters say in response to my posts). 

Little hint: you can't be stopped, post away on Buzz's negatives.

[GoldenWarrior]

Can the board moderators just eliminate any thread that speaks to Crean and his tenure here automatically?  That would be nice.

[brewcity77]

I respect what Crean did for Marquette. Without him, there's likely no D-Wade, no Final Four, no Big East invitation (which is almost undoubtedly true and often left out of the discussion), no Big Three, and no Buzz Williams. That being said, he's gone and really none of my concern now. I hated him at first, but life's too damn short.

We have a great coach in Buzz, a bright future, and a bunch of kids I really like to cheer for. I'm glad TC put us back on the map, but the only time I give him any thought is when another of these threads pops up.

[Skatastrophy]

Can the board moderators just eliminate any thread that speaks to Crean and his tenure here automatically?  That would be nice.

The moderators have their price, I'm sure

[GGGG]

This latest Crean thread has some of the most action of any thread I've seen in a few weeks.

So you decided to start a new one?   

[Henry Sugar]

The moderators have their price, I'm sure

What is your price?

[Blackhat]

Tom Crean

[tower912]

Thank you, coach Crean, for your service to MU.   You have moved on.   Apparently, some here still can't.   

[Skatastrophy]

What is your price?

Will a pat on the back suffice?

[LCDutchman]

Tom Crean is a lightning rod for the new style of coaches.  He is never wrong.  His players fail because they don't buy into the program.  It's us against them.  Blah blah blah.  I sat in the front row for five years of his garbage mouth tantrums and watched twice when his best player was injured at the end of the year due to stupid pet trick practices.  Defending Tom Crean is like defending Bozo the Clown. 

[Wade for President]

Defending Tom Crean is like defending Bozo the Clown. 

I loved playing 'Bozo Buckets', but can't figure out for the life of me what that means?!?

[Canadian Dimes]

I agree. Broken record.

I just find it funny, the people who hate Crean the most were people that thought he was the greatest at Marquette. It's also the same people who won't let people say anything negative about Buzz. All NCAA coaches have their flaws.

sorry beleive what you want.  I have ripped Crean as a loser since 2005.  When we were getting smoked by 20 night in and night out in C-usa during the 5th!!! and 6th!!! years of his tenure at MU with a team consisting on Horizon league talent.  I then continued to rip him as he had 3 hard to guard guards and some shooters to spcae the floor but we pounded the ball for 30 seconds every possesion.  I screamed for a motion offnse.  Anyone with any feel for the game saw our roster set up perfectly for motion.  I screamed at Crean when he tried to make Dom James a SG and the focal part of his offense when everyone else in America could tell you that was not his strength.  I hated him from Day 1 for his swarmy disgusting lack of character.  I hated him for his coach speak and being by far the most boring wet blanket i have ever seen.  heard one interview you heard them all.   Actually heard one new coaching accepatance speach you heard them all.  i wonder if he will recycle his MU and IU speeches for Illinois carbondale or whereever he goes in the next few years.

I like buzz for being a straight shooter and having an actual feel for the game including implementing a motion offense on day 1 and watching the 3 amigoes abslutley flourish in it.

[StillAWarrior]

Tom Crean is a lightning rod for the new style of coaches.  He is never wrong.  His players fail because they don't buy into the program.

I'm quite happy with Buzz, but I've read on this board the opinion that Mbao didn't work out because he "didn't buy into the program."  I'm just saying...

[madtownwarrior]

Is it okay to appreciate Tom Crean for what he did for the program but still think he is a dbag of a person?    quite a mixed emotion...

[reinko]

I loved playing 'Bozo Buckets', but can't figure out for the life of me what that means?!?

The grand prize game was so epic.  I feel like everyone knew someone that knew someone that got on tv.

[MUUM794]

It will unfortunately take many years before everyone lets go of their silly grudge with Coach Crean. I understood the overreaction when he left. Everyone gets a pass in the immediate months following the departure, but this topic should have been dead by the end of the 08-09 season.

There are enough eduated basketball fans around the Marquette program that know better. Coaches leave for what are percieved as "bigger" opportunities. It will certianly happen again. We aren't one of the Big 6 (UNC, Duke, KU, UK, IU, UCLA)

As long as Crean is in the limelight at IU, the anger toward him will continue. My only hope is that somehow everyone comes around before that.

[Mr. Nielsen]

I'm sorry if I piss someone off, but if you are a Crean hater you have issues. Tom Crean did so much for Marquette. MU was lucky to get 300 students at a game and he build it up where student seasons-tickets are over 4,000.

Crean took MU to it's first final four since 1977.

Crean always wanted MU on TV and has the main person to bring ESPN College Gameday to Milwaukee.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Tom Crean molests collies.

[Canadian Dimes]

I'm sorry if I piss someone off, but if you are a Crean hater you have issues. Tom Crean did so much for Marquette. MU was lucky to get 300 students at a game and he build it up where student seasons-tickets are over 4,000.

Crean took MU to it's first final four since 1977.

Crean always wanted MU on TV and has the main person to bring ESPN College Gameday to Milwaukee.

MUpanther you must have read all of Creans press clippings.  Son if you really beleive that then you have no idea what you are talking about.  Kevin Oneill's teams avergaed the same as Tom creans teams.  I was Mu when Bob Dukiet was there and I had student seats in the upper deck of the Bradley.  Back then you had assigned seats with seniors getting priority, then juniors etc.  Last i knew the lower level of the bradley student section held more than 300.  you are delusional and need to do more than read tom creans bio if you want to learn about Mu history.

additionally I hald no ill will to Crean for taking the IU job.  Dont blame him at all, and while he could have possibly done a better job in the exit there is no good way to do it.  I was simply happy he left.  I hated the man years before he left.  The great pretender signed Dwade and owes his entire career to him.  he has literally done basically nothing apart from signing him a nd being a complete douchebag

[brewcity77]

Oh give it a rest. So you don't like him. Who cares? If he doesn't sign Wade, we don't make the Final Four, which was pretty awesome as I remember. And we also would still be in C-USA, with all the national attention that befits a team that gets to compete with UAB and East Carolina.

He did good things for Marquette, he left in d-bag fashion, but since his departure, both parties are better off. Him because of the paycheck and us because of Buzz. Can't that be enough?