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Dawson Rental

Quote from: crosscheck on May 17, 2010, 06:54:40 PM
Now that yous is gone, Otule will see a lot of minutes this next year. It will be interesting to see if he has improved as much as buz has indicated to the media. We will need him.


"Now that yous is gone, Otule will see a lot of minutes this next year."

The truth is one has nothing to do with the other.  If Yous had stayed, and Otule hadn't gotten his minutes this coming year, it wouldn't have been Yous taking Otule's minutes away.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

#101
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on May 18, 2010, 09:37:39 AM
$ ever are you not up to speed on how the Europeans run there club teams?  basketball like soccer typically have a dozen or more teams mnay with players that are teenagers or younger , most dont get payed.  

I believe 4ever's point was how could Mbao play with any professionals on the floor, given his low skill level.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on May 18, 2010, 07:00:03 AM
By the way ... here are Mabo's career stats

http://www.gomarquette.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/marq/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/mbao_career10

Total games = 10
Total minutes = 60 (15= Pres, 12 = SD, 8 = N. Fla)
Total points = 1 (free throw against Grambling in two attempts and a missed fg against South Dakota)
Total Rebounds = 7 (2 against N. Florida, 1 in five other games)
Total Assists = 4 (2 = SD)
Total Blocks = 5 (1 in five different games)
Total Turnovers = 2 (1 = SD and 1 = Prov)
Total Fouls = 13 (4 = SD, 4 = N. Fla)


You've been absolutely right for weeks, AnotherMU84, there is no way we can expect Buzz to be able to go out and recruit anyone who can replace that kind of production.  What a bad "trade" for the program.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

wadefan#1


Ron Paul

Quote from: wadefan#1 on May 19, 2010, 09:48:16 PM
Anybody know where he is going?

Awesome, it only took four pages for someone to ask a question pertinent to the topic.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: mu-rara on May 19, 2010, 07:55:43 AM
And Chicos has a standing search on Google for "Anything that says Buzz sucks"

Nope,  I want him to do well.  The irony, in fact the great irony, is that there are many posters here that actually do search out for failings of our previous coach, "sucks" posts as you like to call them.  Then they run over here to say, "see, see, look what's happening".

Oh the irony.


ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: 79Warrior on May 19, 2010, 09:32:20 AM
I did not get that impression. Considering the player replacing him is black, as is every recruit he is bringing in, the running off because he is black is beyond absurd.


Shhh, you're taking away the race angle which is the new line of attack I was on, didn't you know?

MUfan12

#107
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 20, 2010, 01:34:30 AM

Shhh, you're taking away the race angle which is the new line of attack I was on, didn't you know?


I addressed that earlier, and was clearly not going at you. Read my second post again. It's about the paper the guy writes for, not you. But by all means, keep on it if makes you feel better.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=20540.msg214145#msg214145

Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 20, 2010, 01:32:33 AM
Nope,  I want him to do well.  The irony, in fact the great irony, is that there are many posters here that actually do search out for failings of our previous coach, "sucks" posts as you like to call them.  Then they run over here to say, "see, see, look what's happening".

Oh the irony.



You provide the board with anything you can find negative about Buzz. Others provide the board with anything they can find negative about TC. Please explain how this is in the least bit ironic.

Ready2Fly

"You're the worst poster ever, Chicos."
-Cartman


ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 20, 2010, 08:44:29 AM
You provide the board with anything you can find negative about Buzz. Others provide the board with anything they can find negative about TC. Please explain how this is in the least bit ironic.

I try to provide the board with reported information on Buzz, positive or negative. The others provide only negative.  Thus the irony in the comments.  Hope you were selling short today.

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Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 20, 2010, 03:21:29 PM
I try to provide the board with reported information on Buzz, positive or negative. The others provide only negative.  Thus the irony in the comments.  Hope you were selling short today.

Negative information on Crean is much more news worthy because it's so difficult to find.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

ChicosBailBonds

#112
Quote from: Ready2Fly on May 20, 2010, 08:46:21 AM
"I want to vote for you Ready2Fly, but are you the douche or the turd?"
-Kyle



karavotsos

Quote from: chapman on May 19, 2010, 07:07:48 AM
Not sure how that's such a "damning" article.  Lacks perspective, but hardly a trash piece.  But if that's how you took it, write your own and post your Hotmail address at the bottom.  To make it more credible, maybe even go with Gmail.

Avoiding work and can't sleep, so here you go.

Like the flight of the Hindenburg, the coaching career of Buzz Williams began with great promise only to end in more spectacular failure.  With 2 promising years under his belt, the Napoleonic coach with a Tiger Woods complex was looking forward to his third year at MU with an increasing amount of talent he had reruited.

However, on a fateful May day, Williams decided to cut ties with end-of-the-bench center Yous Mbao.  A person of average intelligence may have thought the transfer inconsequential to Williams long-term coaching future.  However, this was not the opinion of one brave muckraker from the Milwaukee Community Journal.  He reported that other players had cut ties with the MU program, and to him it seemed like a lot.  Others would argue that transferring from program to program was increasingly more the norm for college players.

The mainstream press quickly caught on to the MCJ article, and Buzz's lack of loyalty to players made him a pariah.  Yous Mbao made the rounds on the talk circuit including all major local and national sports shows, as well as the Today show etc.  He was often joined by Jeronne Maymon, a pair of sympathetic victims of betrayal.  Meanwhile, Williams was roundly ripped by the media, who had turned on him.  He was the first person to be named The Worst Person in the World on Olberman and an O'Reilly Pinhead on the same day, as well as the first person to make the ESPN not top 10 w/o an actual highlight.

Other college coaches used this to their advantage.  Local recruit JP Tokoto recalls, "John Calipari showed me the MCJ article and said, 'how can you trust this guy?'  I thought you know what, he's right."

I wish I could say no one saw this coming, because who could?  The answer: it takes the man who sees the butterfly's wings flapping to predict the tsunami.  Through the ingenious use of google alerts, MUScoop poster ChicosBailBonds predicted that the press, college coaches and eventually recruits would turn against Williams as a result of the article and Williams lack of respect for the person of Mbao.  He was right.  The MCJ article was the beginning of the end for Williams.

If there are 2 lessons to be learned from the rapid and ignominious fall of Buzz Williams, they are don't incur the wrath of the Milwaukee Community Journal, and if you are trying to predict and avoid the rare devestating event look to ChicosBailBonds.

internetjournalismishardandyouknowimcrediblebecauseipostedmyemailaddress@gmail.com


Jtyranny

I thought the article went like this...

It's not even summer yet, and players in the Wisconsin men's program are passing through the revolving doors.


This year, three are coming in and one is going out.  For the person who's leaving, don't let the door hit you in the butt.


There was promise for a 7-foot project like Ian Markolf. First of all, he would've been a junior if he would've remained in the program. 

Next, Markolf probably would've been forced-fed with back door passes and screen training along with proprietary agility drills to make him more mobile for the Swing. Without the extra training, he would have been rooted in lane like an ent facing a lumberjack. 

I can understand why Markolf wanted to leave the Wisconsin basketball program.  There are four other tall, somewhat more mobile players on the bench at his position.

They just signed another big man, 6-11 Evan Anderson, who will be a freshman.



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Evan Anderson is 6-feet-11, 240 pounds from Eau Claire, WI.  Since he is home grown, he will clearly be favored over the Texan Markolf. The staff, no doubt, wants Evan Anderson to be better in the Swing than current bench player Markolf.  He got away with playing another style in high school, but in the Big Ten, you have to play the way UW plays to finish well in the league.   

"A big who can move his feet so much better now than two years ago." Wisconsin coach Bo Ryan is thought said after announcing Anderson's signing earlier this year.


Whatever they do with Evan, make him screen endlessly and sit him on the bench hard.


Duje Dukan was a finalist for Mr. Basketball and an all-state pick Illinois.  The Badgers are looking for the 6-foot-8, 215-pound Dukan to be Sam Okey, Keaton Nankivil, and Jon Leuer wrapped up in one. 

The Mr. Basketball finalist can put points on the board. Duje has the potential to play multiple positions for us and we believe he's only scratching the surface of how effective he can be once he gets entrenched into the daily regimen of college basketball."  Ryan said after Dujan's signing this year.

Ben Brust was also a highly rated player from the State of Illinois.  At 6-feet-2 and 180 pounds, Ben is projected as a shooting guard. Coach Howard Moore said: "He's going to have to grow and figure things out with what is going on in the program..."

The combo guard who originally signed with Iowa but opted out after a coaching change should be up to the challenge.  After a complicated and questionable Big Ten ruling, his signing was announced on May 15.

My feeling is that Markolf was a player that the coaching staff didn't want to spend the time to develop, but there's no telling if Ryan was faking his comments about Markolf because he had to say something publically.

"We wish Ian the best of luck and thank him for his hard work over the last two years," Wisconsin head coach Bo Ryan said in a release. "He's been a good teammate and student and we wish him well as he pursues other endeavors."

Markolf suffered knee and ankle bruising due to his long stints on the bench, and his season was shut down in mid-October.  I guess being the cheerleader on the bench, the errand boy and the laundry runner would make you depressed too.


One thing that's not steady in Ryan's program is continuity. Two recruits were dismissed for criminal activity just last year.   

We're just waiting to see who will be the next one to leave the program.

If you are confused the above article was satire and not meant to offend any current, future, or former badger player. It was meant to offend Troy A. Sparks, who could have written an almost identical story about the Badgers or UW-Milwaukee with little effort...


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