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Mbao leaves program
               




Freshman center Youssoupha Mbao has decided to transfer from MU.

               

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/93963594.html
               

LAZER

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on May 18, 2010, 10:14:36 AM
Only since 2004.  RJax and Jim Mac showed that MU could recruit big men less than 10 years ago.

Further, one could argue that it's only been two years ... Barro and Burke were serviceable big men in the last few years.

Barro i would say definitely, but Burke averaged 2.8pts and 3.7rbs his senior season.  I guess it comes down to what your idea of servicable is, but I don't think Burke is the level that everyone around here is looking to replace.  I think Otule would have no problem doing that in 19mpg next season.

Spaniel with a Short Tail

Sorry to see Yous leave.  Hope it works out for him in the long run.

ChicosBailBonds

http://blackathlete.net/artman2/publish/College_Basketball_21/A_revolving_door_for_the_Eagles.shtml

I hope the press doesn't turn on Buzz and the program.  Likely they won't, but these kinds of articles are never fun.

karavotsos

Pretty damning article.  Though not quite as bad as the article in the New York Community Times that I heard is going to be picked up in Sports Community Illustrated.  It asks serious questions about who MU could possibly get to replace the 7-2 Mbao as the point man on our 1-2-2 zone and how MU can go into another season without a top-rated, Big East ready 1-2-2 point man.

The media's all over Buzz.  Hopefully he doesn't turn into Randy Johnson in NY.

Boone

#80
Who gives a crap about what some writer from a dish rag of a "newspaper" thinks?

Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 18, 2010, 10:54:29 PM
http://blackathlete.net/artman2/publish/College_Basketball_21/A_revolving_door_for_the_Eagles.shtml

I hope the press doesn't turn on Buzz and the program.  Likely they won't, but these kinds of articles are never fun.

Whether it's the 5 college basketball fans left at New Orleans U or a writer for the esteemed Black Athlete Sports Network LLC, we can always count on you to link anything even remotely negative regarding Buzz and Marquette. Thanks and keep up the good work.

MUfan12

#82
The guy writes for the Milwaukee Community Journal. You know, the paper that is between The Onion and the Shepherd Express in the hood. They're renowned for their hard-hitting sportswriting.

They must have run Yous off because he's black. Oh, wait...

C'mon Chicos, this is a reach and you know it.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: MUfan12 on May 19, 2010, 12:10:19 AM
The guy writes for the Milwaukee Community Journal. You know, the paper that is between The Onion and the Shepherd Express in the hood. They're renowned for their hard-hitting sportswriting.

They must have run Yous off because he's black. Oh, wait...

C'mon Chicos, this is a reach and you know it.

You're right, enterprising coaches of other teams that recruit against us won't use any means necessary, let alone a Milwaukee publication.  Nah. 

And sorry, why on earth did you go there with the racial comment?  I don't get that take at all.

Let me guess, if this article was written during another certain coach's tenure, Lenny and Mr. Hayward wouldn't have had it autographed by the author and put in their bathroom over the commode? 

Lenny, I don't find this stuff, it comes to me.  There's this new invention called Google and Yahoo, they both provide alerts.  Whenever Buzz Williams or Marquette basketball or any other topic comes up of your choosing, it's emailed to the account you wish.  It's awesome.  This internet, Google invention thing is really going to take off.  Maybe I can get in on some Google stock.   ::)

chapman

Not sure how that's such a "damning" article.  Lacks perspective, but hardly a trash piece.  But if that's how you took it, write your own and post your Hotmail address at the bottom.  To make it more credible, maybe even go with Gmail.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 18, 2010, 10:54:29 PM
http://blackathlete.net/artman2/publish/College_Basketball_21/A_revolving_door_for_the_Eagles.shtml

I hope the press doesn't turn on Buzz and the program.  Likely they won't, but these kinds of articles are never fun.

While I held out hope Mbao could develop, fact is MU lost the last guy on the bench (and he might have been behind Frozena) who scored a grand total of 1 point and 7 rebounds all of last season.  This is hardly a "revolving door."  In fact, their should be some turnover at the end of the bench.  It means we are giving guys an opportunity and when it does not work out, they move on.  

mu-rara

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 19, 2010, 12:48:57 AM
You're right, enterprising coaches of other teams that recruit against us won't use any means necessary, let alone a Milwaukee publication.  Nah. 

And sorry, why on earth did you go there with the racial comment?  I don't get that take at all.

Let me guess, if this article was written during another certain coach's tenure, Lenny and Mr. Hayward wouldn't have had it autographed by the author and put in their bathroom over the commode? 

Lenny, I don't find this stuff, it comes to me.  There's this new invention called Google and Yahoo, they both provide alerts.  Whenever Buzz Williams or Marquette basketball or any other topic comes up of your choosing, it's emailed to the account you wish.  It's awesome.  This internet, Google invention thing is really going to take off.  Maybe I can get in on some Google stock.   ::)

And Chicos has a standing search on Google for "Anything that says Buzz sucks"

MUfan12

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 19, 2010, 12:48:57 AM
You're right, enterprising coaches of other teams that recruit against us won't use any means necessary, let alone a Milwaukee publication.  Nah. 

And sorry, why on earth did you go there with the racial comment?  I don't get that take at all.

Here's the rub. The publication the writer works for is nothing. Pretty much insignificant. And it almost always deals with racial issues. Which is why I made that comment. With the racial angle taken out of it, I'm not sure that sticks at all with that paper's message or their "readership."

Also, find me a big time program that doesn't have a lot of turnover. I sure hope we're competing with those types of programs for players. You think one article from a no-name website is going to have any sway?

Like I said, it's a huge reach.

Skatastrophy

He also drew conclusions from the fact that Hazell and Acker left the program (both were "mutual decisions" despite the fact that they both had serious team rule violations).  He didn't even mention Roseboro which is odd because that's the closest analog to Mbao's situation during Buzz's tenure.  The guy could have made a strong point if he knew what he was talking about.  A few posters from this board could have written a more compelling article taking that point of view.

Lacrosse218

Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 19, 2010, 09:09:23 AM
He didn't even mention Roseboro which is odd because that's the closest analog to Mbao's situation during Buzz's tenure. 

I think he was referring to Roseboro when he said "another promising recruit left after the summer".  I find it hilarious he called Roseboro promising.

79Warrior

Quote from: MUfan12 on May 19, 2010, 12:10:19 AM
The guy writes for the Milwaukee Community Journal. You know, the paper that is between The Onion and the Shepherd Express in the hood. They're renowned for their hard-hitting sportswriting.

They must have run Yous off because he's black. Oh, wait...

C'mon Chicos, this is a reach and you know it.

I did not get that impression. Considering the player replacing him is black, as is every recruit he is bringing in, the running off because he is black is beyond absurd.

MUfan12

79- Read my post two up from yours please.

I should have done a better job explaining it in the original post.

AZWarrior

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on May 19, 2010, 07:54:01 AM
While I held out hope Mbao could develop, fact is MU lost the last guy on the bench (and he might have been behind Frozena) who scored a grand total of 1 point and 7 rebounds all of last season.    

I think Frozena outscored Mbao.   ::)
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

damuts222

 That article shows that he is clueless on how much turnover their is in college basketball, especially when a team gets a new coach. Is their any evidence or site that keeps track of how many transfers each team in college basketball has on average? Not sure if that is a dumb question but I would be interested in seeing which schools are on the high end.
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 19, 2010, 12:48:57 AM
You're right, enterprising coaches of other teams that recruit against us won't use any means necessary, let alone a Milwaukee publication.  Nah. 

And sorry, why on earth did you go there with the racial comment?  I don't get that take at all.

Let me guess, if this article was written during another certain coach's tenure, Lenny and Mr. Hayward wouldn't have had it autographed by the author and put in their bathroom over the commode? 

Lenny, I don't find this stuff, it comes to me.  There's this new invention called Google and Yahoo, they both provide alerts.  Whenever Buzz Williams or Marquette basketball or any other topic comes up of your choosing, it's emailed to the account you wish.  It's awesome.  This internet, Google invention thing is really going to take off.  Maybe I can get in on some Google stock.   ::)

I wish you would quit trying to read my mind as to what I would or wouldn't do in a hypothetical situation. You get annoyed if I draw inferences from what you DO say and then go off on me for something you imagine I would say.

Tom Crean has had many transfers while at MU and IU. Anyone who wants to rip him on that issue has had ample opportunity. Please share with me and the board instances of my negative statements about Crean on this. When you don't find anything a simple apology will do.

On a totally different subject, we're still waiting for you to produce the names of all the guys Buzz has signed who never made it to campus because of their grades.



thatman32

Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 19, 2010, 10:56:41 AM
I wish you would quit trying to read my mind as to what I would or wouldn't do in a hypothetical situation. You get annoyed if I draw inferences from what you DO say and then go off on me for something you imagine I would say.

Tom Crean has had many transfers while at MU and IU. Anyone who wants to rip him on that issue has had ample opportunity. Please share with me and the board instances of my negative statements about Crean on this. When you don't find anything a simple apology will do.

On a totally different subject, we're still waiting for you to produce the names of all the guys Buzz has signed who never made it to campus because of their grades.

Forget about it Lenny, I asked him earlier in the thread to man up and name names, of the people that are leaving or won't get to campus, and he did not respond . . .

MuMark

"It asks serious questions about who MU could possibly get to replace the 7-2 Mbao as the point man on our 1-2-2 zone and how MU can go into another season without a top-rated, Big East ready 1-2-2 point man."

This is a joke right?  :D

What did he play 10 minutes all year as the "point man" in our zone?

Too funny


Aughnanure

#97
Quote from: mu-rara on May 19, 2010, 07:55:43 AM
And Chicos has a standing search on Google for "Anything that says Buzz sucks"

Okay, so I don't follow who says what 90 percent of the time, and don't really keep track of  what certain posters do or how they post on this forum. But I didnt get any negative Buzz feelings from Chicos' original post on this article. Seemed he was just forwarding an article on Buzz and Marquette to the board.

Though it (the author and its publication) may be negative and not important, one of the big advantages of a forum community is that you have so many people interested in one thing (Marquette basketball in this case) and surfing the internet that all the info, news, rumors, etc about our program can be collected here and discussed. There is no way without MUScoop I would be able to read, much less find, the thousands of articles posted on here from hundreds of sites.
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

Daniel

I sent5 Sparks an email saying that even we who follow Marquette basketball closely do not know all the details surrounding any of those decisions, so how can he.  I suggested that he had cast a disparaging light on Marquette and the coaching staff unjustly.

It was a 100% non-sense article.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 17, 2010, 06:49:34 PM
It would be SOOOO cool if we could still get Noreen.

+1

It's the last day of the signing period, I'm finally starting to get cooled down, and then I've got to read this, and get all hot and bothered again.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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