David Cubillian

[schubert33]

I'm sorry but Cubbie is the worst starting 2 guard in MU history. Why on earth did they blow Cadoughn's redshirt to sit on the bench and watch that mess??

[KipsBayEagle]

I do feel very bad for Cadougan.  He shouldn't be in the mix this year.

[Brewtown Andy]

If Acker hadn't been sitting with 4 fouls, you wouldn't notice Cooby as much.

[Doris Burkes Thong]

Cadougan is a huge defensive liability. Can't play a guy that's going to get beat off the dribble on every defensive possession. We're already scrambling on defense as it is by havign to double down on bigs.

[The Lens]

Lay off Cubby.  He's performed well.  As anothoer poster said, Mo's foul's hurt.  If Cubby hits one more 3, it's a much different game.

[Doctor V]

I told my friend that he may be the worst player in MU history to average approximately 30 mpg in a season and he got offended- what a pansy

Honestly though, he brings very little to the table, esp for playing so much

[KipsBayEagle]

Cadougan is a huge defensive liability. Can't play a guy that's going to get beat off the dribble on every defensive possession. We're already scrambling on defense as it is by havign to double down on bigs.

If thats the case, Buzz should have explained to him that he should keep his red shirt, and not burn a year sitting on the bench.  This poor kid busts his you know what trying to get back, and is rewarded with a year of burnt eligibility, probaly a slight loss of confidence in his game for being benched, and now dealing with an incoming recruiting class that is essentially all players gunning for his position.

[schubert33]

Lay off Cubby.  He's performed well.  As anothoer poster said, Mo's foul's hurt.  If Cubby hits one more 3, it's a much different game.

What did he do, besides dribble the ball off his foot twice!!  Be honest with yourself, he wouldn't start in the Horizon league.  Look at the starting 2 guards in that league, he wouldn't start, bank it!

[WellsstreetWanderer]

when he turns it over it always seems to be a crucial point. No shots from outside either

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'm sorry but Cubbie is the worst starting 2 guard in MU history.

Back off the ledge...he's not even the worst starting 2 guard in the last 20 years at MU. 

[schubert33]

Back off the ledge...he's not even the worst starting 2 guard in the last 20 years at MU. 

WHO WAS WORSE???

[KipsBayEagle]

WHO WAS WORSE???

Dameon Mason (shutter)

[JustinLewisFanClubPres]

Be honest with yourself, he wouldn't start in the Horizon league.  Look at the starting 2 guards in that league, he wouldn't start, bank it!

Is this an insult or a compliment to Cubillan?  A lot of our team wouldn't be playing much or at all elsewhere in the Big East or elsewhere.  There are a lot of good guards in the Horizon league but none are on our team this year.  We've been extremely competitive this year and its had much less to do with talent than hard work and everyone on the team deserves a lot of credit for it.

It's a tough loss after we've been playing well but we should be extremely happy with the way our team plays.  We could be perennial bottom-dwellers after the guys we lost last year but we've bounced back with very few hiccups this season.  

This team deserves a break from their fans after a tough night.  

[schubert33]

Is this an insult or a compliment to Cubillan?  A lot of our team wouldn't be playing much or at all elsewhere in the Big East or elsewhere.  There are a lot of good guards in the Horizon league but none are on our team this year.  We've been extremely competitive this year and its had much less to do with talent than hard work and everyone on the team deserves a lot of credit for it.

It's a tough loss after we've been playing well but we should be extremely happy with the way our team plays.  We could be perennial bottom-dwellers after the guys we lost last year but we've bounced back with very few hiccups this season.  

This team deserves a break from their fans after a tough night.  

I just don't understand why he plays soooooooooooooooooooooooo much.   Play Dwight or JR at the 2, anything is better the David!!!!!!!

[ChicosBailBonds]

WHO WAS WORSE???

Logtermann when he started the first few years comes to mind first

I was at MU during Dukiet and O'Neill....there were a lot of guys on those teams that started that could not start on this team.  Anglavar another (and I love Anglavar).  Flory.  Foley. (I realize the last two weren't 2 guards)

[schubert33]

Logtermann when he started the first few years comes to mind first

I was at MU during Dukiet and O'Neill....there were a lot of guys on those teams that started that could not start on this team.  Anglavar another (and I love Anglavar).  Flory.  Foley. (I realize the last two weren't 2 guards

Logtermann as a senior was wayyyyyyyyyyyy better then Cubbie!

[ChicosBailBonds]

As a senior, yes.  But you said the worst starting 2 guard in MU history.  There were years when Logtermann started in which he was not as good as Cubillan.  Couldn't guard anyone his first few years, too reluctant to take the shots, etc.  Sorry, I took you literally.     I agree that the two senior years, I'd take Robb, but that's not what you said. 

Hang in there.

[schubert33]

As a senior, yes.  But you said the worst starting 2 guard in MU history.  There were years when Logtermann started in which he was not as good as Cubillan.  Couldn't guard anyone his first few years, too reluctant to take the shots, etc.  Sorry, I took you literally.     I agree that the two senior years, I'd take Robb, but that's not what you said. 

Hang in there.

I am currently on the ledge, and I know that you shouldn't come down hard on a non-professional athlete, but I just don't get why he plays so much..

[Doctor V]

Back off the ledge...he's not even the worst starting 2 guard in the last 20 years at MU. 

Would you concede that he is the worst player to average nearly 30 mpg? I'd be hard pressed to find another...

In certain games when hes not needed i guess its ok to leave him out there as he does atleast guard someone. Games like today I'd rather take 30 minutes and 6 buycks turnovers over what he provides- atleast dwight is making an effort to get past defenders and produce a bit

Bottom line is that at 30mpg the man should do more on the court. I cant remember anyone to do less with that many minutes at MU

[flash]

He is definatley the worst stater in the Big East, He probably wouldnt start on any power conference team.  With that said, he has had some great games this year, 6-6 game against georgetown and a couple of other solid outings.  However, I honestly cant wait for him to be gone next year.... He really brings almost nothing to the table besides intensity. I have no idea how a big east school offered him a scholership... he should be playing in the horizon leaue or some other mid major

[Doctor V]

He is definatley the worst stater in the Big East, He probably wouldnt start on any power conference team.  With that said, he has had some great games this year, 6-6 game against georgetown and a couple of other solid outings.  However, I honestly cant wait for him to be gone next year.... He really brings almost nothing to the table besides intensity. I have no idea how a big east school offered him a scholership... he should be playing in the horizon leaue or some other mid major

He's got some positives- defensive intensity, passion, seems to have decent leadership, can showboat with the best of them, can be a streaky spot shooter (so could kinsella), can land a job with espn deportes, etc

All of this translates to the 6-10 minutes per game he should be getting- Ill concede 12-16 mpg on this thin team

[Lennys Tap]

Logtermann when he started the first few years comes to mind first

I was at MU during Dukiet and O'Neill....there were a lot of guys on those teams that started that could not start on this team.  Anglavar another (and I love Anglavar).  Flory.  Foley. (I realize the last two weren't 2 guards)

 Cubillan is averaging 6.1 ppg, 2.8 apg and 1.5 rpg in more than 29 mpg. Offensively, he is easily the least productive guard OF ANY KIND to play those kind of minutes in at least 45 years.(that's as far as I could go back) I love his effort and intensity and will give him a standing ovation on senior day. But to say MU has given 29 minutes to a weaker 2 guard in the last 20 (or 45) years is just wrong.

[WxWarrior]

Back off the ledge...he's not even the worst starting 2 guard in the last 20 years at MU. 

Of course not... he's a TC recruit.

Anyway, David never has and never will be a stat stuffer, but he doesn't have to be.  We've won without big numbers from him.  What hurt us more tonight was a subpar performance by Lazar (4-17).

[New Era Warriors]

I bet you guys weren't saying this when he went 6-6 from downtown vs. Georgetown..... 

[Markusquette]

I'm just very surprised Cadougan is getting no minutes at all.  Even with the foul trouble today, he did not even step on the court.  Seems like a big waste to have him play this year, but hell he probably doesn't want to be around here an extra year anyway.  I must say Cubillan does not bring much to the table as some people said.  If he's shooting hot he is an asset, and his defense is overrated but still decent.

However, I do think Cubillan is doing the best he can and working hard and I commend him for that.  I don't think anyone expected him to do much this year after witnessing his decline the past two seasons, so I suppose we are getting more from him than most of us expected (at least more than I expected).