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[spiral97]

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue...

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit start amphetamines.. this was all just a hallucination right?

[chapman]

I am beginning to wonder if it is a rebuilding year for the coaching staff as well.  You can blame the close losses on missed free throws or lucky shots by the other team, but at some point, you have to question the coaching.

In all seriousness, I do wonder whether Buzz can coach in the pinch.  Bad luck can only explain so much.  Every play after a timeout seems to end in a turnover or wild shot.  Not sure what to make of it?

Saying Buzz is the worst coach in the clutch is the same as saying MU is (was) the best three point shooting team in the country.  Just looking at what the numbers say.  Numbers might not tell the whole story, but they don't lie either.     

[Ari Gold]

Buzz can't put the ball in the hoop for these kids. At the end if there were people I wanted to shoot free throws, they were on the court. They were the seniors guys that were supposed to make them in these situations. It's too bad they didn't

[Daniel]

I went to the game, and there were a lot more people there than I thought there would be, and they were cheering.  DePaul played very well in the second half, and we played a lousy game from all aspects the entire game.  Can't hang this one on Buzz - the seniors were on the line when the game counted; everyone missed a ton of shots; layups (the few that we had) rolled around and out; we played a bad, bad game against a bad team that hit two unbelieveable shots at the end; we missed out on some critical rebounds.

With .7 seconds left, we had little chance to pull it out, but Buzz tried.  Lazar took the ball out in the far corner as DePaul put in theirhuge guy to defend agains the long ball; Cubbie sneaked in and screened the in bound defender and Lazar ran the baseline, and the defender, as desinged by Buzz, ran over Cubbie.  Could have been a call, but there wasn't - don't get many of those, but it was definitely a great attempt.

Teams win, teams lose.  Our team lost - they lost the game.

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[MUrugger]

Agree with Daniel above.  Foul could have been called on the guy running over Coobie, or on the guys fouling Jimmy on the receiving end of the pass.  We weren't going to get either of those, but the play wasn't bad. In fact, as I stated earlier tonight, this one is on the players.  I always felt that Buzz was trying to impose focus and assume leadership but the class was asleep.

Also, it was Buycks I'm pretty sure, not Acker, that was guarding Stovall for his last 2 bombs.  In fact Acker had just swiped the ball away from his man, #11 Kelly. Stovall is listed at 6'-5" and is kind of burly.  It was a tough assignment for Buycks who looked like he was more afraid of fouling his man on the last shot than playing in-his-shirt defense.  Buycks has been defending against forwards all year.  And he's been toasted.

[dpu70]

Hey guys, all I can say is THANKS.  It's good to have such nice neighbors to the North.

You got sucked into our slo-mo, no-mo offense.  Tennessee almost fell for it.  Northern Iowa did.  We still can't shoot well, but it also holds our opponents down as well.

BTW, Buzz was really sick.  He was coughing up a lung.  Kept a cup at the table and repeatedly would cough up something and spit into it.  Kinda gross.

Right in front of me too.

Hey, on that final trap play, Buzz should tell the ref to watch for it.  He'd have more of a tendency to call a foul if he knew of it.  But, the refs let the play go.

[rocky_warrior]

Hey guys, all I can say is THANKS. 

You're welcome.  I guess 

[New Era Warriors]

to ALL you MU fans that said we would kill this HORRIBLE depaul team------ you got what YOU want you a-holes.... go celebrate now. fing bad lossss

[GGGG]

We lost for one reason, missed free throws AGAIN

We did not lose for one reason.  That was the capper, but the main reason we lost was because of our crappy offensive execution against their defense.  They were constantly switching screens up top which limited our penetration.  In the second half, we never dumped it into Lazar or Butler. 

Cuse's zone is gonna kill us.

[mileskishnish72]

One-possession games to top 15 teams are one thing - THIS is a season killer.

[mu-rara]

This is the worst loss I have ever seen by an MU team to a disaster of a team

How long have you been a Warrior fan?   2 years?

[MU B2002]

This is the worst loss I have ever seen by an MU team to a disaster of a team

Is this worse than the SF loss last year?

We were 9-0 in the BEAST, had more talent and more experienced players.

[damuts222]

Is this worse than the SF loss last year?

  Yes South Florida last year is not near as bad as DePaul was last night w/o Koshwal. They had pretty much one player in Walker that we had to watch on offense. The guys should have regrouped at halftime and came out and closed out the game in the first ten minutes of the 2nd half.

  When that didn't happen it gave DePaul confidence and what fans they had there were almost mockingly excited

[tower912]

Maine, North Dakota St, USF.....lots of losses worse than this one.   

[damuts222]

I have watched MU for 7 years, and I'm not arguing but I believe it was the worst loss I have seen.

Per Rosiak

Rosemont, Ill. -- Where did that one rank in the pantheon of tough Marquette University losses for you?

Considering the fact the DePaul Blue Demons entered Wednesday night having lost 24 consecutive Big East games, were playing without their best player in Mac Koshwal and for an interim coach who wasn't even on staff last season, you've probably got to put MU's 51-50 loss at Allstate Arena right at the top of the list.

[Marquette06]

At the beginning of the season I knew we were a young team and some of the joys and frustrations that come along with being young and talented (although, at the beginning of the season I didn't realize how talented we are) is you win some games you maybe shouldn't and you lose some games you should win. 

In all seriousness, I do wonder whether Buzz can coach in the pinch.  Bad luck can only explain so much.  Every play after a timeout seems to end in a turnover or wild shot.  Not sure what to make of it?

Good point.  I hate to say this because I am a Buzz fan but when we lose so many games in the last few minutes that to me points to poor coaching.  But he is a young coach coaching a young team.

By the way, that was Acker's man that made the last two baskets for DePaul.

That definitely wasn't Mo's man that made the last 2 shots.  I was actually impressed by Mo's D in the last few minutes. 

I have to believe good things are coming...just not maybe as soon as I would like. 

[mu-rara]

Would you all please chill.

This was an inexperienced team, playing well against good teams. What happened last night happens to inexperienced teams.

The SF loss last year was much worse.  That was a 9-0 top 10 (or close to it) team.

We have had worse losses by better MU teams.  ND State and SF are just two.  7 years is no time frame to be judging all time losses Junior.

How about 1978 first round NCAA loss to Miami of Ohio?    We were defending NCAA Champs and returned 4 starters.  If I ever get near Peter Pavia I'll kill him.

[damuts222]

7 years is no time frame to be judging all time losses Junior.

Worst loss "I" have seen. Did I say the worst loss of all time. Please read.

I have watched MU for 7 years, and I'm not arguing but I believe it was the worst loss I have seen.

I'm just stating my opinion. I'm sure there have been worse losses before my time.

[mu-rara]

Worst loss "I" have seen. Did I say the worst loss of all time. Please read.

I'm just stating my opinion. I'm sure there have been worse losses before my time.

OK, sorry.  I'm over-reacting to the overall tone of the day.

[damuts222]

 I don't like getting in spats when I realize that you are just taking the loss in your perspective and mine my own. Many people are overreacting as if we are a top 5 team in the Big East, yes we lost it happens. DePaul was bad no doubt about it but Buzz is still a good coach, we still have talent, our free throw shooting as a team is good but not down the stretch, paint touches were non existant yada yada.

  This is part of a learning process for many of our first-time Big Easters, and Buzz will have them ready Saturday no doubt.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I went to the game, and there were a lot more people there than I thought there would be, and they were cheering.  DePaul played very well in the second half, and we played a lousy game from all aspects the entire game.  Can't hang this one on Buzz - the seniors were on the line when the game counted; everyone missed a ton of shots; layups (the few that we had) rolled around and out; we played a bad, bad game against a bad team that hit two unbelieveable shots at the end; we missed out on some critical rebounds.

With .7 seconds left, we had little chance to pull it out, but Buzz tried.  Lazar took the ball out in the far corner as DePaul put in theirhuge guy to defend agains the long ball; Cubbie sneaked in and screened the in bound defender and Lazar ran the baseline, and the defender, as desinged by Buzz, ran over Cubbie.  Could have been a call, but there wasn't - don't get many of those, but it was definitely a great attempt.

Teams win, teams lose.  Our team lost - they lost the game.

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Here's where I see the double standard.  I have ZERO doubt that this loss would be hung on the coach by other posters in other years. 

[ecompt]

Even if they had called last-second foul, we would have missed the free throws. That kind of night in that kind of season.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Wow, I could not disagree with you more.

None of those losses compare to this one in my opinion.  ND State was a good team, beat Wisconsin at the Kohl Center (almost no one does that) and the following year beat us.  They had success that year, going 20-8.  They beat Princeton, beat UWGB, lost to Texas Tech by 4, lost to Colorado State by 2 points.  


USF has some talent last year and it's a tough place to play, they actually won 4 games in conference and lost several others by only a few points (WVU by 3, Syracuse by 5, Rutgers by 3)....oh, and they swept DePaul as well.  That's how bad DePaul is.  

Even Maine had some success that year they beat us.

DePaul hadn't won a conference game in TWO #$%&^#$ YEARS!!  And DePaul isn't just winless during that time, they are getting ass hammered in the process.

I honestly don't see how those other losses even come close to comparing to this loss.  DePaul is THAT BAD.  

This is a team that lost to Providence the other day by 17 POINTS AT HOME...the team we just beat by 30...the team that supposedly is coached by someone that doesn't have a clue (Keno Davis).  This is a team that lost to American University on their home court.  A team that lost to Florida Gulf Coast University.  Their smallest margin of defeat in conference was 13 points....St. John's beat them by 20.

[mu-rara]

Everybody knows that Chicos is loving this, right?

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Here's where I see the double standard.  I have ZERO doubt that this loss would be hung on the coach by other posters in other years. 

I agree with you 100%....

BUT...

At some point, me, you, and everybody here is going to have to get over TC and all of the associated drama (we love him, we hate him, we loved him until he left, he's too tan, his ego is too big, he wastes money, he didn't donate to the soccer stadium, he recruited Christopherson,  etc. etc.)

I've wasted a lot of time pointing out the "double standard" in various threads, but, at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter.

People who "like" Buzz are going to give him the benefit of the doubt. People who "dislike" Crean will use everything against him to illustrate why they don't like him.

Chico's, we agree on a lot of stuff... and at some point we're probably going to have to let this stuff slide... otherwise we're just going to keep beating our heads against a wall... and I'm not really sure it's doing anything. People already have their minds made up, and there's no changing it.