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Jason Maxiell, and basically anyone associated on or off the court with Louisvlle. 
The General has taken on a new command.

CTWarrior

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Ed Hightower, who often seems to officiate 14 games per day. 

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THEGYMBAR

David Rivers was the one guy I hated most while MU. He beat us on a play that never should have happened. Was nursing quite a hangover and just was beginning to feel 25% of normal and Rivers ran the court to beat us. Bar time after that game was awfully quiet.



mu-rara

1)  Peter Pavia, the ref who through Jerome Whitehead out of the '78 tournament game

2) Digger Phelps and anyone who played for him

3) Thuggins and anyone who played for him

Do you ever wonder why other coaches gush over Thuggins?

THEGYMBAR

Mu-rara----Great call on Pavia. I still believe that loss hurt the program more than any other loss in history. The combination of the error in judgement in hiring Hank to a losing in the 1st round made it so much easier to recruit against us. Whitehead getting tossed hurt but Hank getting the only technical of his career made the situation worse. The T cost us the game not the ejection.

bilsu

Quote from: THEGYMBAR on December 26, 2008, 10:57:41 AM
Mu-rara----Great call on Pavia. I still believe that loss hurt the program more than any other loss in history. The combination of the error in judgement in hiring Hank to a losing in the 1st round made it so much easier to recruit against us. Whitehead getting tossed hurt but Hank getting the only technical of his career made the situation worse. The T cost us the game not the ejection.
I do not think it was an error to hire Hank. That loss to Miami-Ohion certainly hurt him and probably had a lot to do with him losing out on Scooter McCray or Mark Aguire. He was also hurt by Marquardt's trafic accident, which resulted in the end of MU's streak of 20 win seasons. When he turned the program over to Majerus the program was on an uptick and the team had several highly ranked players. If he had stayed he might of gotten Joe Wolf. The bad decision Raymonds made was turning the program over to Majerus before Majerus was ready, who could not stand the critciusm and left us to be replaced by Dukiet. The program would have been much better off, if Raymonds would have coached another 5 years. Raymonds won 71.6% of his games. Crean won 66.4% of his games. In between Majerus 61.5%, Dukiet  45.9%,O'Neill 58.1% and Deane 64.5%.

PJDunn

I think that we would have been better off going after a high profile coach after Al left, but hindsight is almost always 20/20.  That being said, I always liked Hank. 

On a separate note...has anyone else heard the story that the reason that we lost Scooter was that during his campus visit Rick walked in to pay a visit to him prior to lights out and caught scooter polishing the bayonet?  He was so embarrassed that he dropped us and committed to L'ville.  The story is probably just MU "urban legend", but entertaining.

MDMU04

Steve Logan, Reece Gaines and Francisco Garcia were 1a, 1b and 1c.  I wasn't particularly enamored with Rick Pitino or Bob Huggins either.
"They call me eccentric. They used to call me nuts. I haven't changed." - Al McGuire

THEGYMBAR

bilsu---My problem with the hiring of Hank was it had little chance to continue the ride. Al is my biggest hero in sports. But, his ego was big and he knew Hank could not live up to the past. In a certain way it made the Al legacy even bigger. Hank is awesome guy and have known him since I was six years old. That being said, he was not prepared to take over a program of our national level.

I agree with much of your comments with exception of Rick. Hank was being pushed out and Rick was the logical choice. If Joe Wolf had come to MU the Rick era would have been far different. Obviously Rick was less secure guy back then but three incidents changed his legacy:
1. The loss to North Carolina (Still top 5 game at Mecca in my mind)
2. Loss to ND (Free throws by Boone)
3. Losing Joe Wolf (Jerked MU off)

Rick would have been here a long time minus those three events. His post MU career proved he was a top level coach.

Just my take on the past!!!

harryp

Tough choice, but Mike Ditka whose touchdown ended football at Marquette was the worst.

Sir Lawrence

Quote from: harryp on December 26, 2008, 06:04:43 PM
Tough choice, but Mike Ditka whose touchdown ended football at Marquette was the worst.

Never heard that story.  Pitt played MU in 1959, and I know MU had football until 1960, not that the two necessarily correlate, but why did Ditka end football at MU?
Ludum habemus.

bma725

Quote from: Sir Lawrence on December 26, 2008, 06:14:09 PM
Never heard that story.  Pitt played MU in 1959, and I know MU had football until 1960, not that the two necessarily correlate, but why did Ditka end football at MU?

In 1959, Pitt was ranked #6 in the country and losing to Marquette before Ditka made some key plays that won them the game.  The story goes that had MU won that game the football program would have continued on past 1960.

That's doubtful though given that alums offered to fund the team and Raynor still said no.  The school was in a cost cutting mode during the late 1950s and 1960s, football was just part of it along with the Medical School(now Medical College of Wisconsin).

Sir Lawrence

Quote from: bma725 on December 26, 2008, 06:31:28 PM
That's doubtful though given that alums offered to fund the team and Raynor still said no. 

OK, I get the Ditka story now (thank you) but Raynor wasn't president until 1965--was he calling the shots in some other capacity before then?
Ludum habemus.

wildbill sb

Actually, the Ditka touchdown occurred in the fall of 1960, the last season of MU football.  Father O'Donnell was president.  Father Raynor wan't even on the radar screen at the time.  Lisle "Liz" Blackburn was the coach, George Andrie played offense (end), Karl Kassulkie played defensive back, primarily, and much of the team still consisted of ND rejects brought in by my public enemy #1:  Johnny Druze - the "really poor man's Frank Leahy."  What a joke that hire turned out to be.  The supreme irony was that Liz wqas turning the program around after the Druze disaster, and kindly Father O'Donnell pulled the rug out from under him. 
“I’m working as hard as I can to get my life and my cash to run out at the same time. If I can just die after lunch Tuesday, everything will be perfect.”  - Doug Sanders, professional golfer

bma725

Quote from: Sir Lawrence on December 26, 2008, 06:38:57 PM
OK, I get the Ditka story now (thank you) but Raynor wasn't president until 1965--was he calling the shots in some other capacity before then?

Typo, meant O'Donnell. 

Though alums did come back with the offer when Raynor became president and he still turned them down.

thanooj

how about kleinschmidt from depaul.  I hated that guy. 
If he played at marquette i would have loved him.

Also Lazelle durden and curtis bostic and cincy fans chanting "dahmer cheeseheads" while throwing cubes of cheddar at us in cincy at the conference tourney.
I hate those cincy fans.  hate em.  hate em.  I think they are inbred.  cousins marrying cousins and what not.
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77ncaachamps

Quote from: thanooj on December 26, 2008, 11:44:52 PM
how about kleinschmidt from depaul.  I hated that guy. 
If he played at marquette i would have loved him.

Also Lazelle durden and curtis bostic and cincy fans chanting "dahmer cheeseheads" while throwing cubes of cheddar at us in cincy at the conference tourney.
I hate those cincy fans.  hate em.  hate em.  I think they are inbred.  cousins marrying cousins and what not.

I was going to mention Kleinschmidt, but he was leaving as I just started MU.

Durden and Bostic (tough hombre) were just part of one huge blob that was to be hated (and envied?) for their play and success: UC.
SS Marquette

Sir Lawrence

Quote from: wildbill sb on December 26, 2008, 09:57:20 PM
Actually, the Ditka touchdown occurred in the fall of 1960, the last season of MU football.  Father O'Donnell was president. 

Marquette didn't play Pitt in 1960.  They played the first game of the 1959 season.  Pitt's '59 and '60 seasons:

1959
Coach: John Michelosen
Date Opponent Score W/L
9/19 @Marquette 21-15 W
9/25 @U.S.C. 23-0 L
10/3 UCLA 25-21 W
10/10 Duke 12-0 W
10/17 @West Virginia 23-15 L
10/24 Texas Christian 13-3 L
10/31 Syracuse 35-0 L
11/7 @Boston College 22-14 W
11/14 Notre Dame 28-13 W
11/21 Penn State 22-7 W
Record: 6-4 Total: 148-164

1960
Coach: John Michelosen
Date Opponent Score W/L
9/17 @UCLA 8-7 L
9/24 Michigan State 7-7 T
10/1 @Oklahoma 15-14 L
10/8 Miami 17-6 W
10/15 West Virginia 42-0 W
10/22 @Texas Christian 7-7 T
10/29 @Syracuse 10-0 W
11/5 @Notre Dame 20-13 W
11/12 Army 7-7 T
11/19 Penn State 14-3 L
Record: 4-3-3 Total: 134-77
Ludum habemus.

jficke13

len elmore... and all those ball players from new york

rugbydrummer

in no particular order

aaron gray
luke harangody
jerry west
eric devendorf
the entire memphis squad from 04-05 *grumbles about confUSA tournament*

just to name a few

Other peeps we kept/keep an eye on:  joe alexander, UConn lap-top thieves, scottie reynolds (although not as much this year according to espn??)

oh, and Don Imus, too.

WashDCWarrior

Quote from: jalepeno on December 25, 2008, 11:16:27 AM
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