Marquette Football Update

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

On a similar note, there were two university related stories locally. 

Fresh off their first NCAA basketball appearance ever, U of Hartford announced plans to drop  from DI to DIII to save money.  There are some pissed off people.

Simultaneously, U of New Haven is building additional sports facilities on campus with the intent to go from DII to DI.  Their football team would play FCS, not FBS.

[Herman Cain]

On a similar note, there were two university related stories locally. 

Fresh off their first NCAA basketball appearance ever, U of Hartford announced plans to drop  from DI to DIII to save money.  There are some pissed off people.

Simultaneously, U of New Haven is building additional sports facilities on campus with the intent to go from DII to DI.  Their football team would play FCS, not FBS.

Traci Carter got the Hawks to the NCAA and then they drop the program.

I think there should be more waivers available for schools to play D1 in certain sports and D3 in others.

[JWags85]

Traci Carter got the Hawks to the NCAA and then they drop the program.

I think there should be more waivers available for schools to play D1 in certain sports and D3 in others.

There are plenty.  You just can't play the big money making sports (basketball or football) or baseball/soccer where there are already hundreds of member schools.  They can do it in hockey or lacrosse

[warriorchick]

Maybe if they did FCS football and played in the Spring....that'd fill a niche

What niche is that?

[The Sultan]

On a similar note, there were two university related stories locally. 

Fresh off their first NCAA basketball appearance ever, U of Hartford announced plans to drop  from DI to DIII to save money.  There are some pissed off people.

Simultaneously, U of New Haven is building additional sports facilities on campus with the intent to go from DII to DI.  Their football team would play FCS, not FBS.

The Hartford example is going to be interesting.  It seems like there are a lot of these private schools in the northeast that in these one bid leagues.  If they don't help you with student recruitment, then they are just cost drains.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

The Hartford example is going to be interesting.  It seems like there are a lot of these private schools in the northeast that in these one bid leagues.  If they don't help you with student recruitment, then they are just cost drains.

There was another article this morning noting a few other things.
The girls softball team was playing their final regular season game and they all taped over "Hartford" with black tape.
The biggest $ donors have already gone on record saying they won't donate another cent to the school.  Includes some wealthy alumni businessmen (largest donor by far) and athletes (pro golfer, Tim Petrovic among others.)
'The study" was a sham.  It supposedly said the school would save like $12 mil a year but it blatantly double dipped to get that amount and economists who looked at ​it said you can't do that and maybe saves $900k which makes it not worth it.  Also noted the study ignored effect on donations and applications.
2 weeks ago some students took screenshots during a class on Zoom when a professor accidentally shared an email from the President who more or less said he was doing this
The 20+ universities that have closed for good recently were all DIII schools

[cheebs09]

College football is stupid.

Pro football is awesome

That's where I'm at too. Lack of football at MU wasn't too much of an impact to me.

[The Sultan]

The 20+ universities that have closed for good recently were all DIII schools

Right, but that's because they were small and in financial distress already.  It wasn't lack of D1 sports that was the problem.

[4everwarriors]

Even if it was from the bad years in the 1950s, is there any game footage anywhere? Even just highlights?

You have to think the Libraries would have something.

Just ax '62, he wuz der, hey?

[Knight Commission]

Sentenced to 5 years at age 85. 


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/04/22/ex-giant-pete-hall-85-sentenced-to-five-years-in-prison/73418521007/

[Viper]

Sentenced to 5 years at age 85. 


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/04/22/ex-giant-pete-hall-85-sentenced-to-five-years-in-prison/73418521007/

yikes!!!

[Herman Cain]

Sentenced to 5 years at age 85. 


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/04/22/ex-giant-pete-hall-85-sentenced-to-five-years-in-prison/73418521007/

This guy was a one man crime wave

[Uncle Rico]

This guy was a one man crime wave

Probably friends with Scott Drew

[cheebs09]

There's the nail in the coffin of us ever getting football back.

[WhiteTrash]

This guy was a one man crime wave

See, this proves we have the chops to hang with the SEC.

[Viper]

See, this proves we have the chops to hang with the SEC.

haha...this guy came along too soon. Would have fit perfectly for Barry Alvarez at Wisconsin. Shoe scandal?...child's play!

[muwarrior69]

IIRC during my four years at Marquette, '65-'69, the Wisconsin football team won only 1 game.

[TallTitan34]

IIRC during my four years at Marquette, '65-'69, the Wisconsin football team won only 1 game.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/wisconsin/index.html

Looks like 5 with 0 in the last two years.

[Viper]

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/wisconsin/index.html

Looks like 5 with 0 in the last two years.

the crazy thing is that Wisconsin played in the 1960 and 1963 Rose Bowls (I'm not ever born yet...but love the history of college football), the later vs USC, in what is still considered one of the great Rose Bowl games. Yet, a few seasons after, Wisconsin can't win a game! And they pretty much were garbage until the early '80's under Dave McClain. Unfortunately and untimely, McClain passed, thus the program went back to vapors until they bring in Barry Alvarez from ND. Anyway, more than everyone cares to know, but interesting that success was not sustained and so far between.

[The Sultan]

the crazy thing is that Wisconsin played in the 1960 and 1963 Rose Bowls (I'm not ever born yet...but love this history of college football), the later vs USC, in what is still considered one of the great Rose Bowl games. Yet, a few seasons after, Wisconsin can't win a game! And they pretty much were garbage until the early '80's under Dave McClain. Unfortunately and untimely, McClain passed, thus the program went back to vapors until they bring in Barry Alvarez from ND. Anyway, more than everyone cares to know, but interesting that success was not sustained and so far between.

When the head coach of those 60s teams, Milt Bruhn, retired, the Badgers chose John Coatta (alum and assistant coach at Florida State) over Bo Schembechler (then head coach at Miami Ohio).

His negative experience is why Bobby Knight declined the Badgers' offer to coach a couple of years later.

[Viper]

When the head coach of those 60s teams, Milt Bruhn, retired, the Badgers chose John Coatta (alum and assistant coach at Florida State) over Bo Schembechler (then head coach at Miami Ohio).

His negative experience is why Bobby Knight declined the Badgers' offer to coach a couple of years later.

isn't there a story about how Bo is in Madison for an interview and the Badgers AD doesn't even show up? Or something along those lines.

[The Sultan]

isn't there a story about how Bo is in Madison for an interview and the Badgers AD doesn't even show up? Or something along those lines.

Yeah something like that. It was a sham process to hire the alum.

[The Sultan]

Anyway, it would be interesting to see what would have happened had Dave McClain not passed away so young. He was decidedly mediocre. Maybe the football equivalent of Greg Gard.

So they don't bottom out under Morton. Does Donna Shalala come in and clean house?

[Viper]

Anyway, it would be interesting to see what would have happened had Dave McClain not passed away so young. He was decidedly mediocre. Maybe the football equivalent of Greg Gard.

So they don't bottom out under Morton. Does Donna Shalala come in and clean house?

...true. One of my MU housemates has a good buddy that played football at UW 82-86. DE Jim Kmet. We went to a few games. Kmet was good, team avg as you say. Saturday nights in Madison...epic crazy.

[Spotcheck Billy]

When the head coach of those 60s teams, Milt Bruhn, retired, the Badgers chose John Coatta (alum and assistant coach at Florida State) over Bo Schembechler (then head coach at Miami Ohio).

His negative experience is why Bobby Knight declined the Badgers' offer to coach a couple of years later.

Supposedly Knight was offered the job but requested that the announcement be held off until he could inform his team but WI leaked it anyway pissing of Knight.