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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: The Lens on April 28, 2021, 08:24:30 AM
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Who recruited this guy? Buzz?
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/1960s-ny-giants-player-arrested-on-drug-charges (https://www.fox5ny.com/news/1960s-ny-giants-player-arrested-on-drug-charges)
NEW YORK - An elderly former NFL player is accused of trying to sell a large amount of cocaine out of his Manhattan apartment.
Clyde "Peter" Hall, who is in his 80s, is accused of trying to distribute five kilos of cocaine.
A DEA informant allegedly set up a meeting with Hall at his apartment to pick up the drugs. A call planning the transfer was recorded by federal agents.
When the informant drove up to Hall’s apartment, the former football player agreed to come out, authorities say.
During the recorded meeting inside the vehicle, they say Hall said would bring some out to show him, and then the other man would bring the money for the drug deal into Hall's apartment to get the rest of the drugs.
Officers approached and arrested Hall and seized a gray bag, which contained a condensed chunky white substance that field-tested positive for cocaine.
Hall had previously been sentenced in 2010 to a 20-year prison term for investment fraud but he was serving home confinement during the coronavirus pandemic.
Hall played one year with the New York Giants. He was drafted out of Marquette University as a quarterback in 1960 but was moved to end.
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Who recruited this guy?
Likely the aptly named Frosty Ferzacca.
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This will NOT help recruiting.
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This will NOT help recruiting.
No worries. Different school. We are the University of Marquette.
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https://nypost.com/2021/04/26/former-new-york-giants-player-busted-in-seven-kilo-drug-sting/amp/
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We tryin' to be the new U, eh?
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He had negative 34 yards rushing on 93 attempts in 1959 (no scrambling ability), and 14 picks and only 7 passing TD's
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/marquette/1959.html
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Maybe if he got paid what he deserved in college he wouldn't need to sell drugs.
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No worries. Different school. We are the University of Marquette.
Speaking of...
From now on anyone mentioning University of Marquette will be advertising MUScoop.
https://www.universityofmarquette.com/
link no worky. Don't make me revoke the lifetime membership!
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Maybe if he got paid what he deserved in college he wouldn't need to sell drugs.
Or he at least would've been able to afford the upfront costs associated with a start up like selling cocaine
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He had negative 34 yards rushing on 93 attempts in 1959 (no scrambling ability), and 14 picks and only 7 passing TD's
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/marquette/1959.html
MU was really airing out back in those days averaging 28 attempts per game. That was a big number back then.
MU should have never given up football.
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Maybe if he got paid what he deserved in college he wouldn't need to sell drugs.
It's a little-known fact that Marquette shut down the football program rather than receive the Death Penalty from the NCAA.
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This will hurt recruiting
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Pete Hall came to Marquette on a basketball scholarship. He was one of the top players on the Freshman team. He joined the football program several years later and quickly became the starting quarterback. We had a lot of guys on the basketball team out of Pennsylvania at that time and Pete was one of them. Others were Jimmy McCoy, Walt Mangham and Jimmy Kollar.
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He had negative 34 yards rushing on 93 attempts in 1959 (no scrambling ability), and 14 picks and only 7 passing TD's
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/marquette/1959.html
Damn you and that Sports-Reference link. I'm now way too far down a MU Football rabbit hole.
Our Cotton Bowl year we were ranked as high as 4th in the country. Went 7-2. Started off undeated then lost to #20 Duquesne 13-0 before losing to #16 TCU 16-6 in the Cotton Bowl.
Beat Wisconsin 12-6
Our 1935 team was pretty good too:
7-1. Never ranked though.
Beat Wisconsin (33-0)
Beat K State (we may have a winning record vs them)
Beat SLU (Natch)
Beat Ole Miss (SEC!)
Beat Iowa State (No wonder they pillage our rosters now)
Beat MSU (JOEY!!!)
Lost @Temple
Beat Creighton (We always beat Creighton)
Other random observations:
We played Pacific a lot
We played BC a lot, at one point BC was listed as Non Major
Played MSU a bunch
Notre Dame was always ducking us
We went undefeated in 1930.
But not ranked. We beat 4 "non major" teams: Lawrence, Ripon, Boston College, Butler. Our Major wins were @Grinnell, Drake, @Creighton, Iowa and we Tied Detroit Mercy.
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Damn you and that Sports-Reference link. I'm now way too far down a MU Football rabbit hole.
Our Cotton Bowl year we were ranked as high as 4th in the country. Went 7-2. Started off undeated then lost to #20 Duquesne 13-0 before losing to #16 TCU 16-6 in the Cotton Bowl.
Beat Wisconsin 12-6
Our 1935 team was pretty good too:
7-1. Never ranked though.
Beat Wisconsin (33-0)
Beat K State (we may have a winning record vs them)
Beat SLU (Natch)
Beat Ole Miss (SEC!)
Beat Iowa State (No wonder they pillage our rosters now)
Beat MSU (JOEY!!!)
Lost @Temple
Beat Creighton (We always beat Creighton)
Other random observations:
We played Pacific a lot
We played BC a lot, at one point BC was listed as Non Major
Played MSU a bunch
Notre Dame was always ducking us
We went undefeated in 1930.
But not ranked. We beat 4 "non major" teams: Lawrence, Ripon, Boston College, Butler. Our Major wins were @Grinnell, Drake, @Creighton, Iowa and we Tied Detroit Mercy.
So we had 3 good years?
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So we had 3 good years?
The last of which was 90 years ago. Dropping football was a smart move.
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We last beat UW in 1943.
4-25 against them :o
On the plus side, some decent records against some other Power 5 opponents...
Iowa State 8-2
Arizona 6-4
Kansas State 6-5
Kansas 4-0
Ole Miss 3-2
Iowa 2-1
Kentucky 3-1
Oklahoma State 3-1
Texas Tech 3-1
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Even if it was from the bad years in the 1950s, is there any game footage anywhere? Even just highlights?
You have to think the Libraries would have something.
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The last of which was 90 years ago. Dropping football was a smart move.
The 40's and 50's were not kind to MU. We even pulled a DePaul. Frank Murray left us for UVA and then we hired him back.
And we brought back Lisle Blackbourn after he flamed out with the Packers (and coached a year at Carroll).
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Even if it was from the bad years in the 1950s, is there any game footage anywhere? Even just highlights?
You have to think the Libraries would have something.
https://www.marquette.edu/library/archives/SuperA/UNIV-A-4-5s16-1956-1960.php
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Who recruited this guy? Buzz?
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/1960s-ny-giants-player-arrested-on-drug-charges (https://www.fox5ny.com/news/1960s-ny-giants-player-arrested-on-drug-charges)
So, Midnight Express II, The Golden Years?
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The last of which was 90 years ago. Dropping football was a smart move.
Return to football and you've got ready-made opponents in Butler, Georgetown and Villanova, with three non-scholarship Div. I teams (St. Thomas, Drake, and Valpo) within driving distance of Valley Fields.
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the battle between Marquette and Holy Cross to cap off the 1959 season.
(https://marquettewire.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/thumbnail_pastedImage-900x593.png)
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Return to football and you've got ready-made opponents in Butler, Georgetown and Villanova, with three non-scholarship Div. I teams (St. Thomas, Drake, and Valpo) within driving distance of Valley Fields.
You would think so, but Butler, Georgetown and Villanova don't seem to play each other at all.
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Return to football and you've got ready-made opponents in Butler, Georgetown and Villanova, with three non-scholarship Div. I teams (St. Thomas, Drake, and Valpo) within driving distance of Valley Fields.
The biggest force that would prevent this is dark money from the University of Wisconsin. I'm half kidding.
Which means I'm half serious. Wisconsin is the 20th state in population but has only one Division 1 team. This imbalance gives UW an incredible advantage in cultivating their walk on program. It also explains why UW-Whitewater is so dominant.
A FCS or D2 program could be pretty competitive in Wisconsin given metrics.
I'm not advocating for a team but merely pointing out that when you look at state's population and see that from 21-40 most have 2 teams, some have 3 and even a few have 4, there could be opportunity in Wisconsin.
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The biggest force that would prevent this is dark money from the University of Wisconsin. I'm half kidding.
Which means I'm half serious. Wisconsin is the 20th state in population but has only one Division 1 team. This imbalance gives UW an incredible advantage in cultivating their walk on program. It also explains why UW-Whitewater is so dominant.
A FCS or D2 program could be pretty competitive in Wisconsin given metrics.
I'm not advocating for a team but merely pointing out that when you look at state's population and see that from 21-40 most have 2 teams, some have 3 and even a few have 4, there could be opportunity in Wisconsin.
We could recruit Whitewaters roster fill in some legit D1 recruits and win FCS based on what I remember from the last FCS football game I watched
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The biggest force that would prevent this is dark money from the University of Wisconsin. I'm half kidding.
Which means I'm half serious. Wisconsin is the 20th state in population but has only one Division 1 team. This imbalance gives UW an incredible advantage in cultivating their walk on program. It also explains why UW-Whitewater is so dominant.
A FCS or D2 program could be pretty competitive in Wisconsin given metrics.
I'm not advocating for a team but merely pointing out that when you look at state's population and see that from 21-40 most have 2 teams, some have 3 and even a few have 4, there could be opportunity in Wisconsin.
To your point, Michigan has U of M and MSU and also has Central, Western and Eastern as MAC teams in D1. Then you get into Ferris State, Grand Valley State and Northern Michigan DII.
MU could put together a very decent quality FCS team.
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Maybe Al McGuire will rise from the grave and announce his intention to coach again, too
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Fun fact: Al McGuire played high school football against Joe Paterno. Al was able score easily bc JoePa looked the other way.
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We could recruit Whitewaters roster fill in some legit D1 recruits and win FCS based on what I remember from the last FCS football game I watched
Could Whitewater be competitive in FCS? Would we be scholarship or non-scholarship FCS? It's a hell of a lot easier to get kids to pay to pay full costs at Whitewater or LaCrosse especially in-state kids (Minnesota too if WI still has tuition remission for MN natives) than to pay full costs at MU. Tuition at Whitewater is under $8K a year, $15,384 with room and board. $24K for out-of-state students. This is without merit and need based aid too. Meanwhile, MU is $60K. That's the biggest impediment, IMO.
To your point, Michigan has U of M and MSU and also has Central, Western and Eastern as MAC teams in D1. Then you get into Ferris State, Grand Valley State and Northern Michigan DII.
MU could put together a very decent quality FCS team.
Saginaw Valley and Wayne State in D2 as well. However, all of those are public schools. It costs $25K for in-state students and $30K for out-of-state students at GVSU, all in. Even less at SVSU, Ferris, and NMU.
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Fun fact: Al McGuire played high school football against Joe Paterno. Al was able score easily bc JoePa looked the other way.
I think there is a photo of this somewhere.
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Could Whitewater be competitive in FCS? Would we be scholarship or non-scholarship FCS? It's a hell of a lot easier to get kids to pay to pay full costs at Whitewater or LaCrosse especially in-state kids (Minnesota too if WI still has tuition remission for MN natives) than to pay full costs at MU. Tuition at Whitewater is under $8K a year, $15,384 with room and board. $24K for out-of-state students. This is without merit and need based aid too. Meanwhile, MU is $60K. That's the biggest impediment, IMO.
Saginaw Valley and Wayne State in D2 as well. However, all of those are public schools. It costs $25K for in-state students and $30K for out-of-state students at GVSU, all in. Even less at SVSU, Ferris, and NMU.
Non scholarship FCS to start. MU would have no problem attracting students to be in the program. Georgetown has kids falling all overthemselves to play football for the Hoyas.
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Non scholarship FCS football is worthless.
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Could Whitewater be competitive in FCS? Would we be scholarship or non-scholarship FCS? It's a hell of a lot easier to get kids to pay to pay full costs at Whitewater or LaCrosse especially in-state kids (Minnesota too if WI still has tuition remission for MN natives) than to pay full costs at MU. Tuition at Whitewater is under $8K a year, $15,384 with room and board. $24K for out-of-state students. This is without merit and need based aid too. Meanwhile, MU is $60K. That's the biggest impediment, IMO.
Competitive? Sure. I think part of Whitewater’s success is the lack of FCS programs within 3 hours of Milwaukee or Madison. So you can get a lot of fringe non-D1 talent to play there.
“Win” FCS like Galway said? I’m not sure if he meant win games or win a title, but if it’s the latter, no way in hell. The best FCS teams like NDSU, James Madison, and Eastern Washington could probably win some of the lower level FBS leagues and regularly beat FBS teams. They’d obliterate Whitewater or Mount Union
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Non scholarship FCS to start. MU would have no problem attracting students to be in the program. Georgetown has kids falling all overthemselves to play football for the Hoyas.
Love the enthusiasm but I’m gonna say this: We’re not Georgetown
And now louder for the folks in the back:
WE’RE NOT GEORGETOWN
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Could Whitewater be competitive in FCS? Would we be scholarship or non-scholarship FCS? It's a hell of a lot easier to get kids to pay to pay full costs at Whitewater or LaCrosse especially in-state kids (Minnesota too if WI still has tuition remission for MN natives) than to pay full costs at MU. Tuition at Whitewater is under $8K a year, $15,384 with room and board. $24K for out-of-state students. This is without merit and need based aid too. Meanwhile, MU is $60K. That's the biggest impediment, IMO.
Whitewater and the other UW schools would not be competitive in FCS. They just don’t have the resources. They have looked at D2 before and even that’s a stretch.
D3 is perfect for them. They get the glory of winning titles without the costs associated with D2 or FCS.
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Non scholarship FCS football is worthless.
I have been to a few games and saw a lot of school spirit and people having fun.
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Likely the aptly named Frosty Ferzacca.
Johnny Druze?
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I have been to a few games and saw a lot of school spirit and people having fun.
Whats “a lot of school spirit”?
Valpo averaged 1800-2000 fans a game the last few games, and that was usually buffered by a “big” game early in the year. Multiple games have under 1200 fans.
Butler similarly, averages around 2500 a game, but again multiple games under 1500 fans a year.
Drake, under 2000.
Dayton has the highest of the set, but they are still under 3000 fans.
All of schools play in stadiums that seat way more than they bring. Drake and Dayton both play in stadiums that seat more than 10K fans. And they all have basketball teams that draw way more fans.
It’s a waste of time. The Pioneer League has the lowest attendance as a conference in the FCS and usually gets blasted in any non-con games against legit FCS programs.
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Whats “a lot of school spirit”?
Valpo averaged 1800-2000 fans a game the last few games, and that was usually buffered by a “big” game early in the year. Multiple games have under 1200 fans.
Butler similarly, averages around 2500 a game, but again multiple games under 1500 fans a year.
Drake, under 2000.
Dayton has the highest of the set, but they are still under 3000 fans.
All of schools play in stadiums that seat way more than they bring. Drake and Dayton both play in stadiums that seat more than 10K fans. And they all have basketball teams that draw way more fans.
It’s a waste of time. The Pioneer League has the lowest attendance as a conference in the FCS and usually gets blasted in any non-con games against legit FCS programs.
I mean, I guess schools like Valpo are using football to get 50-80 students in the door they wouldn't otherwise get. But I don't think that would be a smart enrollment move for MU. They would be using resources best spent elsewhere.
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I’m with Fluff & Wags. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. Also it’s pretty clear Jennifer Carton is anti big football school. She has DJ leave football factory tOSU and then only left MU after the Peter “Clyde” Hall story surfaced.
Being The U of the North is hurting recruiting.
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I think there is a photo of this somewhere.
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Marquette football with the shoutout in SI today.
https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2021/05/01/iowa-state-first-round-nfl-draft-picks (https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2021/05/01/iowa-state-first-round-nfl-draft-picks)
Undefeated since 1960!
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Could Whitewater be competitive
Well, it's certainly no St Norbert's
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Out of the Golden Avalanche era. That would be a great name to bring back, instead of Golden Eagles, and would keep Gold in the family.
If my memory serves me, MU last football victory was over those arrogant pricks, No Dick. What a way to close out.
F*%K No Dick.
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Marquette's last football victory occurred on 10/8/1960. They beat Boston College 13-12.
http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Marquette.htm
Years ago I happened across an old Life magazine with a full-page picture of a Marquette Football game. My computer skills being what they are, I had to take two frames to get the picture and the caption. I hope the attachments work. The pictures may help explain why Marquette dropped the sport. If they are not attached, if someone could help me with the process I will try again.
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Apparently, the second half was attached, but not the first. Here's another try.
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Dropping football also might have had something to do with a million dollar (and growing each year) deficit that was real money in 1960.
The good news was that retiring this debt drove the decision to go big time in basketball to pay the debt off.
Maybe we should get MU to startup football again. I mean if it leads to another decision to go big time in basketball, it would be well worth it.
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Marquette did restart the Football Program, it's called Lacrosse. They bet on the demo / geography of LAX players when investing in that sport and so far it seems to have paid off. It had helped MU on both coasts.
Adding football would be more of an alum play.
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I'd rather add baseball/softball than bring back football.
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I'd rather add baseball/softball than bring back football.
Hockey would be the best fit, IMO
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Hockey would be the best fit, IMO
Nah. Two winter sports with very few spring and fall sports?
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Hockey would be the best fit, IMO
I'd love for MU to have hockey. But outside of Providence is there another Big East school with hockey? And how many comparable institutions have hockey? BC, ND but they can subsidize it with football money.
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I'd love for MU to have hockey. But outside of Providence is there another Big East school with hockey? And how many comparable institutions have hockey? BC, ND but they can subsidize it with football money.
UConn
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UConn
Oh right. Haven't quite gotten to remembering that they're back in the Big East yet.
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It's more likely that BC hockey subsidizes football than vice versa.
I am kidding but hockey is extremely popular there.
And Marquette doesn't need any additional sports at this time.
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We have Esports
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I'd love for MU to have hockey. But outside of Providence is there another Big East school with hockey? And how many comparable institutions have hockey? BC, ND but they can subsidize it with football money.
Not even that, but they’ve had it forever. ND’s program has been around since the early 70s, far longer. They were established, funded programs far before the finances of college sports became hyper focused. Same with Providence and they play in hockey’s premier conference.
Both of the major college programs to start recently, Penn St and ASU, were totally funded by boosters, despite being at huge well funded athletic departments. Penn St hockey was fully funded in the 9 figures by Terry Pegula who owns the Bills and Sabres, and ASU hockey raised $35MM from boosters and ASU club hockey alums.
It was awesome how Marquette put Lax together, but forming a hockey team would be a far more difficult and costly endeavor that would directly compete with their most important and well funded sport
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Not even that, but they’ve had it forever. ND’s program has been around since the early 70s, far longer. They were established, funded programs far before the finances of college sports became hyper focused. Same with Providence and they play in hockey’s premier conference.
Both of the major college programs to start recently, Penn St and ASU, were totally funded by boosters, despite being at huge well funded athletic departments. Penn St hockey was fully funded in the 9 figures by Terry Pegula who owns the Bills and Sabres, and ASU hockey raised $35MM from boosters and ASU club hockey alums.
It was awesome how Marquette put Lax together, but forming a hockey team would be a far more difficult and costly endeavor that would directly compete with their most important and well funded sport
I'm not extremely convinced that they'd have negative impacts on each other unless the hockey team had some major success. I get the fiscal argument for entertainment dollars but if the majority of money comes from media rights anyways and not tickets then we'd just need to get a solid network deal (which idk if that's a thing for hockey)
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Not even that, but they’ve had it forever. ND’s program has been around since the early 70s, far longer. They were established, funded programs far before the finances of college sports became hyper focused. Same with Providence and they play in hockey’s premier conference.
Both of the major college programs to start recently, Penn St and ASU, were totally funded by boosters, despite being at huge well funded athletic departments. Penn St hockey was fully funded in the 9 figures by Terry Pegula who owns the Bills and Sabres, and ASU hockey raised $35MM from boosters and ASU club hockey alums.
It was awesome how Marquette put Lax together, but forming a hockey team would be a far more difficult and costly endeavor that would directly compete with their most important and well funded sport
ND dropped their hockey program for about 15 years from the mid 80s to about 2000. (Off the top of my head.)
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ND dropped their hockey program for about 15 years from the mid 80s to about 2000. (Off the top of my head.)
Yeah they played in the Badger Hockey Showdown at the BC and got waxed. They were either a club team or just re-starting their D1 team.
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ND dropped their hockey program for about 15 years from the mid 80s to about 2000. (Off the top of my head.)
Not that long. Only 1 year as club in like 1983 and then a few years in the ACHA which was sort of a hybrid D1/D2 conference back then. By the late 80s they were D1 independent again and in 1990 or so they joined the CCHA which was where the Michigan, MSU, and OSU resided before the B10 hockey conference
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Gotcha. I remember watching them usually get clocked by Wisconsin in the old WCHA days in the late 70s. They weren't very good back then.
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Gotcha. I remember watching them usually get clocked by Wisconsin in the old WCHA days in the late 70s. They weren't very good back then.
I think that they were only playing Wisconsin then to shore up their academic reputation by playing the "Harvard of the Midwest"
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And Marquette doesn't need any additional sports at this time.
Number of sports teams per each Big East school's web site. Track and field includes both an indoor (winter) team and an outdoor (spring) team. This does not count split teams by sport. Georgetown, for instance, counts women's and coed sailing as two distinct "teams" but merely lists it under one title, same with HW and LW rowing. GU counts 30 "teams" but only lists 26.
Georgetown 26
Villanova 24
Connecticut 24
Butler 20
Providence 18
Xavier 18
St. John's 17
DePaul 15
Creighton 14
Marquette 14
Seton Hall 14
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Number of sports teams per each Big East school's web site. Track and field includes both an indoor (winter) team and an outdoor (spring) team. This does not count split teams by sport. Georgetown, for instance, counts women's and coed sailing as two distinct "teams" but merely lists it under one title, same with HW and LW rowing. GU counts 30 "teams" but only lists 26.
Georgetown 26
Villanova 24
Connecticut 24
Butler 20
Providence 18
Xavier 18
St. John's 17
DePaul 15
Creighton 14
Marquette 14
Seton Hall 14
Still doesn't mean Marquette needs more sports.
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i feel like theres some clowns on this site that are sub conciously anti football simply cuz marquette doesnt have it.
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I can honestly say the lack of football was a consideration in my decision to attend MU.
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i feel like theres some clowns on this site that are sub conciously anti football simply cuz marquette doesnt have it.
I love college football. I have called it the quintessential American sport. Saturday night SEC game? Awesome.
That being said, Marquette shouldn’t sponsor it. It would be a complete resource drain with little upside.
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I can honestly say the lack of football was a consideration in my decision to attend MU.
🙉🤨 what did da football ever do to ya tho
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College football is stupid.
Pro football is awesome
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Still doesn't mean Marquette needs more sports.
Women's golf. Yeahhh!
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I love college football. I have called it the quintessential American sport. Saturday night SEC game? Awesome.
That being said, Marquette shouldn’t sponsor it. It would be a complete resource drain with little upside.
Maybe if they did FCS football and played in the Spring....that'd fill a niche
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College football is stupid.
Pro football is awesome
I am Pro College Football.
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On a similar note, there were two university related stories locally.
Fresh off their first NCAA basketball appearance ever, U of Hartford announced plans to drop from DI to DIII to save money. There are some pissed off people.
Simultaneously, U of New Haven is building additional sports facilities on campus with the intent to go from DII to DI. Their football team would play FCS, not FBS.
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On a similar note, there were two university related stories locally.
Fresh off their first NCAA basketball appearance ever, U of Hartford announced plans to drop from DI to DIII to save money. There are some pissed off people.
Simultaneously, U of New Haven is building additional sports facilities on campus with the intent to go from DII to DI. Their football team would play FCS, not FBS.
Traci Carter got the Hawks to the NCAA and then they drop the program.
I think there should be more waivers available for schools to play D1 in certain sports and D3 in others.
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Traci Carter got the Hawks to the NCAA and then they drop the program.
I think there should be more waivers available for schools to play D1 in certain sports and D3 in others.
There are plenty. You just can’t play the big money making sports (basketball or football) or baseball/soccer where there are already hundreds of member schools. They can do it in hockey or lacrosse
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Maybe if they did FCS football and played in the Spring....that'd fill a niche
What niche is that?
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On a similar note, there were two university related stories locally.
Fresh off their first NCAA basketball appearance ever, U of Hartford announced plans to drop from DI to DIII to save money. There are some pissed off people.
Simultaneously, U of New Haven is building additional sports facilities on campus with the intent to go from DII to DI. Their football team would play FCS, not FBS.
The Hartford example is going to be interesting. It seems like there are a lot of these private schools in the northeast that in these one bid leagues. If they don't help you with student recruitment, then they are just cost drains.
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The Hartford example is going to be interesting. It seems like there are a lot of these private schools in the northeast that in these one bid leagues. If they don't help you with student recruitment, then they are just cost drains.
There was another article this morning noting a few other things.
The girls softball team was playing their final regular season game and they all taped over "Hartford" with black tape.
The biggest $ donors have already gone on record saying they won't donate another cent to the school. Includes some wealthy alumni businessmen (largest donor by far) and athletes (pro golfer, Tim Petrovic among others.)
'The study" was a sham. It supposedly said the school would save like $12 mil a year but it blatantly double dipped to get that amount and economists who looked at it said you can't do that and maybe saves $900k which makes it not worth it. Also noted the study ignored effect on donations and applications.
2 weeks ago some students took screenshots during a class on Zoom when a professor accidentally shared an email from the President who more or less said he was doing this
The 20+ universities that have closed for good recently were all DIII schools
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College football is stupid.
Pro football is awesome
That’s where I’m at too. Lack of football at MU wasn’t too much of an impact to me.
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The 20+ universities that have closed for good recently were all DIII schools
Right, but that's because they were small and in financial distress already. It wasn't lack of D1 sports that was the problem.
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Even if it was from the bad years in the 1950s, is there any game footage anywhere? Even just highlights?
You have to think the Libraries would have something.
Just ax '62, he wuz der, hey?
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Sentenced to 5 years at age 85.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/04/22/ex-giant-pete-hall-85-sentenced-to-five-years-in-prison/73418521007/
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Sentenced to 5 years at age 85.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/04/22/ex-giant-pete-hall-85-sentenced-to-five-years-in-prison/73418521007/
yikes!!!
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Sentenced to 5 years at age 85.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/04/22/ex-giant-pete-hall-85-sentenced-to-five-years-in-prison/73418521007/
This guy was a one man crime wave
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This guy was a one man crime wave
Probably friends with Scott Drew
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There's the nail in the coffin of us ever getting football back.
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This guy was a one man crime wave
See, this proves we have the chops to hang with the SEC.
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See, this proves we have the chops to hang with the SEC.
haha…this guy came along too soon. Would have fit perfectly for Barry Alvarez at Wisconsin. Shoe scandal?…child’s play!
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IIRC during my four years at Marquette, '65-'69, the Wisconsin football team won only 1 game.
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IIRC during my four years at Marquette, '65-'69, the Wisconsin football team won only 1 game.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/wisconsin/index.html
Looks like 5 with 0 in the last two years.