Wet Markets

[Jockey]

Long form article from Vanity Fair that explains history of china's research into coronavirus, bats, etc. 

Despite the non-sequiturs about Trump and the right, it is a well written article.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins

Very informative article. While my current belief is that it is not from a lab, it absolutely needs to be investigated and I am open to changing my mind if evidence is presented.

[Billy Hoyle]

while likely not a smoking gun, if accurate, this fact is hard to overlook in identifying failures of the US scientific and journalistic community; 

The idea of a lab leak first came to NSC officials not from hawkish Trumpists but from Chinese social media users, who began sharing their suspicions as early as January 2020. Then, in February, a research paper coauthored by two Chinese scientists, based at separate Wuhan universities, appeared online as a preprint. It tackled a fundamental question: How did a novel bat coronavirus get to a major metropolis of 11 million people in central China, in the dead of winter when most bats were hibernating, and turn a market where bats weren't sold into the epicenter of an outbreak?


another well-written article that cites yours on the dismissal (in some cases, forced) of the Lab Leak Theory. A good takedown of right-wing "think tanks" as well.

Health experts who understood all along that it was entirely possible that the virus emerged from a lab simply refused to examine the hypothesis because it had become associated with the likes of Donald Trump.

A story in which the virus emerged from failed safety protocols at the Wuhan lab is not inherently more racist than a theory in which it emerged from a wet market. (If anything, blaming the pandemic on China's people for eating bats lends itself much more easily to racism than blaming China's government for lax security at its research labs.)

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/lab-leak-hypothesis-covid-liberal-media-science-biden-trump-china.html

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

This all sounds like a Connecticut conspiracy theory that I occasionally hear.
Lyme Disease originated from and escaped from Plum Island laboratory just of the coast of Connecticut.
People continue to ignore the fact scientists have proof Lyme was documented in colonial times.

[rocket surgeon]

those "other experts" ain't saying anything 'bout fausolini's emails...nothing to see here, move along.  waiting for more spin, but as i've said, to say the msm and fauci were a huge disservice to the american people and the world for that matter is an obvious understatement.  we all suffered.  now, china and fauci need to be held accountable.  they were both lying to us repeatedly for over a year

[Skatastrophy]

those "other experts" ain't saying anything 'bout fausolini's emails...nothing to see here, move along.  waiting for more spin, but as i've said, to say the msm and fauci were a huge disservice to the american people and the world for that matter is an obvious understatement.  we all suffered.  now, china and fauci need to be held accountable.  they were both lying to us repeatedly for over a year

Lol

[Billy Hoyle]

those "other experts" ain't saying anything 'bout fausolini's emails...nothing to see here, move along.  waiting for more spin, but as i've said, to say the msm and fauci were a huge disservice to the american people and the world for that matter is an obvious understatement.  we all suffered.  now, china and fauci need to be held accountable.  they were both lying to us repeatedly for over a year

I don't know how much Fauci should be held accountable. He never definitively dismissed the lab leak possibility. What I do appreciate about Fauci is that he was willing and open about his positions changing as understanding about the virus evolved.

[tower912]

A good scientist is always open to new data.

[MU82]

those "other experts" ain't saying anything 'bout fausolini's emails...nothing to see here, move along.  waiting for more spin, but as i've said, to say the msm and fauci were a huge disservice to the american people and the world for that matter is an obvious understatement.  we all suffered.  now, china and fauci need to be held accountable.  they were both lying to us repeatedly for over a year

you hate fauci so much, it's almost as if he's black!

[JWags85]

you hate fauci so much, it's almost as if he's black!

FFS man, you're better than this

[TSmith34, Inc.]

those "other experts" ain't saying anything 'bout fausolini's emails...nothing to see here, move along.  waiting for more spin, but as i've said, to say the msm and fauci were a huge disservice to the american people and the world for that matter is an obvious understatement.  we all suffered.  now, china and fauci need to be held accountable.  they were both lying to us repeatedly for over a year

Mission Accomplished! The right-wing media has successfully whitewashed Trump's role and made him a hero in the COVID pandemic and shifted all blame to Fauci, at least in the "minds" of the dopes that gobble up this disinformation and cry for more...which is a frighteningly high percentage of one major political party's members.

[rocket surgeon]

Mission Accomplished! The right-wing media has successfully whitewashed Trump's role and made him a hero in the COVID pandemic and shifted all blame to Fauci, at least in the "minds" of the dopes that gobble up this disinformation and cry for more...which is a frighteningly high percentage of one major political party's members.

i see your sources have already dumbed you down to the point beyond help...have a good one.  and BLM cares about black people too...yikes

[rocket surgeon]

you hate fauci so much, it's almost as if he's black!

that seems a little racist of ya 82, but i don't hate him, i hate what he's done to our country

[rocket surgeon]

FFS man, you're better than this

no he isn't!  this is who he is.  a race baiter; the true colors behind all that sanctimonious"do gooder love" facade

[ZiggysFryBoy]

FFS man, you're better than this

The manchild is not better than this.  He's proven over and over again. That he is a grown and with the maturity of a 5 year old and a sense of humor equivalent to a dairy cow.  ( beef cows are funny, FTR)

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

A good scientist is always open to new data.

I expected a "always be science-ing!" here.