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Spaniel with a Short Tail

That's one uncomfortable interview until the players left. I thought Wojo did fine afterwards.

I noticed the bandage on Wojo's knuckle. I didn't notice if it was there during the game. Punch something in the locker room maybe?


Bad_Reporter

Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 21, 2019, 10:52:11 PM
That's one uncomfortable interview until the players left. I thought Wojo did fine afterwards.

I noticed the bandage on Wojo's knuckle. I didn't notice if it was there during the game. Punch something in the locker room maybe?



Ask wades and other slurpers, they'll say Wojo is anything but soft and coddling..

Guys as soft as they come.  Refer to his providence post game interview 2 years ago.

Cheeks

Quote from: MUfan12 on March 21, 2019, 07:06:39 PM
Through 5 years-

Mike Deane: 100-55, NIT runner up and quarterfinal, 1-2 NCAA.

Steve Wojciechowski: 97-69, NIT quarterfinal, 0-2 NCAA.

OMG

Deane had a NCAA team he inherited, and left 5 years later with no post season of any kind and Krunti Hester as our lone recruit.

Wojo took over a non Postseason team and now in years 3, 4 and 5 he has gone to the postseason with almost everyone back next year

Trajectories totally inverted

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 21, 2019, 07:12:37 PM
i think the off the court issues of tbe buzz era are blown way out of proportion.  This was not a memphis or kentucky level program dirty dealings.

Go start a college, become a president and you can decide how it is run, what is important, etc.  Instead we have a BOT and leadership that says this is unacceptable.  Thank God.


https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-marquette-sex-assaults-1111-20111111-story.html

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-marquette-sex-assaults-20110621-story.html

Etc, etc.  I remember the conspiracy crew here that said this was the Trbune and DePaul out to nail MU.  Boy was that rich.



"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: The Lens on March 21, 2019, 06:52:05 PM
This season was a complete bust. 

No pre season tourney win
No conf season champ
No conf tourney champ
No NCAA win

I love these players and I don't mind Wojo but this year was a bust. 

Our ROI is a disaster.

Big East player of Year, 2nd team AA., Hauser 2nd team all Big East, Joey Freshmen of the Year Big East

Largest attendance in years.  National spotlight most of the year.  ROI is a disaster?  We made more money this year than we have in quite a few years due to attendance and NCAA tournament unit.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: The Lens on March 21, 2019, 06:53:57 PM
Who? Who burned the University?  Name names.

Is this serious, because I think you know the answer
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 21, 2019, 07:47:08 PM
Year 2, 3, and 4 look quite similar, honestly. Especially when you consider the ultimate outcomes (nothing, NCAA, NIT).  Year 5 aesthetically looks better but it's only fair to qualify it with the fact that the Big East was undoubtedly way down in Year 5... and we got spanked by a midmajor in Round 1.  There's no trajectory.

No they don't.  We can line up power ratings if you wish to play this game.  Deane never coached in the Big East, the ratings are not similar, the recruiting not even close to the same.

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Jon

Quote from: Cheeks on March 22, 2019, 12:32:21 AM
Big East player of Year, 2nd team AA., Hauser 2nd team all Big East, Joey Freshmen of the Year Big East

Largest attendance in years.  National spotlight most of the year.  ROI is a disaster?  We made more money this year than we have in quite a few years due to attendance and NCAA tournament unit.

Now there you go again.



As with your inexplicable defense of the Arrogant Asswipe of Athens, your unstinting support of Wojo defies understanding.

Both leaders brought hateful attention to our Warriors that caused deep damage to our identity as ferocious competitors.

Granted, the Asswipe of Athens shamed our university on the biggest stage of all but Wojo's humiliation was at the hands of an undistinguished mid-major of very modest accomplishment. Very modest, indeed.

Cheeks

Quote from: Jon on March 22, 2019, 12:58:34 AM
Now there you go again.



As with your inexplicable defense of the Arrogant Asswipe of Athens, your unstinting support of Wojo defies understanding.

Both leaders brought hateful attention to our Warriors that caused deep damage to our identity as ferocious competitors.

Granted, the Asswipe of Athens shamed our university on the biggest stage of all but Wojo's humiliation was at the hands of an undistinguished mid-major of very modest accomplishment. Very modest, indeed.

Sorry, but I believe we can win and do it with integrity without the off the court nonsense.  We will agree to disagree, I guess.

We competed just fine most of the year, not sure why people are ignoring that.  Terrible finish.

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Jon

Quote from: Cheeks on March 22, 2019, 01:05:38 AM
Sorry, but I believe we can win and do it with integrity without the off the court nonsense.  We will agree to disagree, I guess.

We competed just fine most of the year, not sure why people are ignoring that.  Terrible finish.

Terrible finish? That's akin to saying WW II was a misunderstanding among nations.

As Blake reminds us so aptly in Glengarry Glen Ross, one must always be closing.

The end of this season wasn't just terrible; it was decidedly shameful. Let's hope Mitch and Murray from downtown agree that Wojo gets neither the Cadillac nor the steak knives.




vogue65

Simple, the Big East is not all it's promoted to be.  When our team tried the throtel back they over did it.  We got behind the power curve. 
They left their heart and soul on the floor at the garden, I really feel for them.  I'm back to, screw the Big East.

Also, St. Johns did the same thing to our team, they were also more athletic.

For some of you ROI is the measuring criteria, based on that the University is having their cake and eating it.  They have an academic image while making money from basketball.

The BOT is a naive bunch of wimps, but they are running a great university, pitty it has a poor basketball team.  It's all about $$$ and image, not winning, I get it.  Look behind the curtain.  Remember Vince? "WINNING ISN'T EVERYTHING, IT'S THE ONLY THING"

That old GBP philosophy is far removed from the BOT approach.  If the BOT asked me to join I would respectfully decline.


warriorfred

#61
Does anyone remember Kevin O'Neill?

Compare Wojo to Kevin O'Neill in year 5 - O'Neill led the Warriors to the Sweet 16 with a big win over Kentucky, left a loaded in-coming team, and established a recruiting pipeline that carried Mike Deane until Deane's flaws as a recruiter were exposed.

Also, when Kevin O'Neill started Marquette was effectively what remains after the dumpster fire is over.  The old gym was the practice facility and if you believe O'Neill, his starting salary was approximately 1/10th of what Wojo makes (adjusted for inflation).

In year 5 of the Wojo era I was expecting Kevin O'Neill like performance given the salary and resources, and we are debating Mike Deane levels of performance.   This is sad.

willie warrior

Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 21, 2019, 10:52:11 PM
That's one uncomfortable interview until the players left. I thought Wojo did fine afterwards.

I noticed the bandage on Wojo's knuckle. I didn't notice if it was there during the game. Punch something in the locker room maybe?


Nah, he was busy picking his nose during the game and injured his knuckle
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CTWarrior

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 21, 2019, 07:56:12 PM
Deane's year 5 went 6-10 in CUSA!  Lost to mighty SLU (8-8 CUSA) in the CUSA tourney!

Wojo has improved Marquette basketball in his tenure. Not as quickly as anyone would have liked. But comparing his 5 years to Deane's is a bad argument
If you only look at the accomplishments over the total of the five years Deane wins.  But Deane came in with a young, full cupboard through O'Neill's recruiting.  He couldn't restock it and was eventually leading us over a cliff.  Wojo started with an empty cupboard and have improved it immensely.  He just doesn't have the right mix of good players and doesn't know what to do with the ones he has when his original plan is successfully countered.

Not a big fan of Wojo yet, but I think we were right to get rid of Deane and I am pretty sure I would keep Wojo.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

The Lens

Quote from: Cheeks on March 22, 2019, 12:32:53 AM
Is this serious, because I think you know the answer

Yes I am serious.  No scholarships lost, no wins vacated, no banners brought down.  We had a terrible newspaper article and some allegations that were never substantiated.  You continue move in the shadows, talking about ghosts and shoes that will drop.  When?  Where?  Who? 

Quote from: Cheeks on March 22, 2019, 12:32:21 AM
Big East player of Year, 2nd team AA., Hauser 2nd team all Big East, Joey Freshmen of the Year Big East

Largest attendance in years.  National spotlight most of the year.  ROI is a disaster?  We made more money this year than we have in quite a few years due to attendance and NCAA tournament unit.

OK, so we're spending millions on a giant PR campaign.  And in some respects you are right BUT most alums want some more at the end of the day.  Losing 6 of their last 7 will have an impact.  Many non MU fans came out to see the Forum bc they were priced out of Bucks games.   If you don't think this is bad, I don't know what to say.  I know a lot of very reasonable and seasoned fans and they are not happy. 
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

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