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Wojo Excuses Thread

Started by 5DollarPitcher, March 21, 2019, 05:51:53 PM

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5DollarPitcher

Pretty clear that Wojo just got game planned off the floor, out of the gym, and onto the bus by a random guy from the Ohio Valley Conference. But I'd like to get thoughts from those still defending Wojo on why this loss had nothing to do with him.... or the BET... or the end of the regular season... or the last 5 seasons in general.

I'll hang up and listen.

Mike Deane's Seat Belt

Because hes a "stand up guy".  With a good heart and a good pedigree. 

Buzz for all his faults could squeeze a lot out of some juco transfers.  I miss buzz

DJO's Jaw

Yeah, not a good look for the coaching staff today. I don't think we should blow up next years team by replacing him this offseason, but unless there's a great season next year he may need to go

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Everything was bad today, including the coaching staff. Lotta work to do this offseason.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


wadesworld

Well if the Wojo bashers get to ignore the first 27 games of the season wouldn't the slurpers get to ignore the final 7 games of the season? Or does is that just a one way street?

warriorfred

He runs a clean program, but so does Roy Williams  >:(

NickelDimer

No Finish Line

5DollarPitcher

Quote from: wadesworld on March 21, 2019, 06:08:53 PM
Well if the Wojo bashers get to ignore the first 27 games of the season wouldn't the slurpers get to ignore the final 7 games of the season? Or does is that just a one way street?
I mean if you look at the season or his tenure as a whole, it's objectively been full of underachievement and disappointment. Culminating today.  The high point of his tenure was a 7 game run through a painfully mediocre Big East.  And we didn't even win the Big East at the end of the day.  I'll gladly analyze entire years or Wojo's whole tenure - doesn't change my opinion of him at all.

jonny09

Quote from: wadesworld on March 21, 2019, 06:08:53 PM
Well if the Wojo bashers get to ignore the first 27 games of the season wouldn't the slurpers get to ignore the final 7 games of the season? Or does is that just a one way street?

Are you ignoring 0 NCAA wins in five years too?

wadesworld

Quote from: jonny09 on March 21, 2019, 06:17:19 PM
Are you ignoring 0 NCAA wins in five years too?

Oh. When the poster was talking about how we can excuse the last 7 games of the season I figured we were talking this season, not our NCAA Tournament success in the last 5 years.

5DollarPitcher

Quote from: wadesworld on March 21, 2019, 06:19:03 PM
Oh. When the poster was talking about how we can excuse the last 7 games of the season I figured we were talking this season, not our NCAA Tournament success in the last 5 years.
This season wasn't at all impressive. It's no type of feather in Wojo's cap.  We were massively overrated in the middle of the season after a strong stretch through some very down Big East teams.

LAMUfan

Quote from: DJO's Jaw on March 21, 2019, 05:54:52 PM
Yeah, not a good look for the coaching staff today. I don't think we should blow up next years team by replacing him this offseason, but unless there's a great season next year he may need to go

This is where everyone's head should be. 

GrimmReaper33

Top 10-15 recruiting class in 2015 just graduated, top 20ish 2016 class has one year left.

Not a single NCAA tourney win to show for it.  Does Wojo need nothing but 5 stars in order to win??

warriors141

Quote from: wadesworld on March 21, 2019, 06:08:53 PM
Well if the Wojo bashers get to ignore the first 27 games of the season wouldn't the slurpers get to ignore the final 7 games of the season? Or does is that just a one way street?

not about how you start, about how you finish. end of season performance is way more important, to think otherwise is comical

PointWarrior

Wojo can go anytime.

MS totally more athletic - who is that on?

MU game plan totally pathetic - who is that?

MS superstar with a zillion assists and makes teammates better, MU superstar plays hero ball - who is that on?

MU totally crapped their pants down the stretch with the BE title in sight - who is that on?


This team won a lot of close games against the crappy big east.  They caught Louisville, Bucky and k-state when they were down.

They started almost every game slow.   They started almost every 2nd half poorly.

This team's record is a fraud - it's on Wojo.

Aughnanure

Quote from: LAMUfan on March 21, 2019, 06:23:19 PM
This is where everyone's head should be.

But in many ways, this is the actual perfect time to do it if you're the AD and you really believe Wojo isn't the real deal. Gives the new coach a strong roster coming in similar to what Buzz had to build momentum.

All you do is waste years and money keeping on a guy who did "good enough" to stay employed. If you know Wojo isn't the guy, you should not wait around to let him go.
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

Jon

Enough already.

Fire the sonuvabitch!


warriorfred

Quote from: Aughnanure on March 21, 2019, 06:31:28 PM
But in many ways, this is the actual perfect time to do it if you're the AD and you really believe Wojo isn't the real deal. Gives the new coach a strong roster coming in similar to what Buzz had to build momentum.

All you do is waste years and money keeping on a guy who did "good enough" to stay employed. If you know Wojo isn't the guy, you should not wait around to let him go.

I agree with this "cold" take.  Now is the time to replace Wojo.  There remain some seniors (whether Howard leaves or Joey leaves after a Wojo termination, who knows?), but there is something to build upon for 2020 and beyond.

CleanishProgram

Quote from: wadesworld on March 21, 2019, 06:08:53 PM
Well if the Wojo bashers get to ignore the first 27 games of the season wouldn't the slurpers get to ignore the final 7 games of the season? Or does is that just a one way street?

Yeah it's really the beginning of the season that matters most. That's where coaches really shine.

warriors141

anyone hear what excuses wojo came up with after the game?

nyg

Quote from: GrimmReaper33 on March 21, 2019, 06:24:26 PM
Top 10-15 recruiting class in 2015 just graduated, top 20ish 2016 class has one year left.

Not a single NCAA tourney win to show for it.  Does Wojo need nothing but 5 stars in order to win??

I would guess that with exception of Morant, all the other players were two stars from Rivals.  Moran was a two, until he imploded his senior year.

Some stated that Markus and Sam were injured and the true facts about the injuries will come out after the tournament.  Looking forward to seeing that. That would be a good Wojo excuse. 

Markus in last two games:

10 for 42 from the field.  23%
5 for 23 from three point 21%

That does not help Wojo's cause either. 

muhoops1

Quote from: PointWarrior on March 21, 2019, 06:30:55 PM
Wojo can go anytime.

MS totally more athletic - who is that on?

MU game plan totally pathetic - who is that?

MS superstar with a zillion assists and makes teammates better, MU superstar plays hero ball - who is that on?

MU totally crapped their pants down the stretch with the BE title in sight - who is that on?


This team won a lot of close games against the crappy big east.  They caught Louisville, Bucky and k-state when they were down.

They started almost every game slow.   They started almost every 2nd half poorly.

This team's record is a fraud - it's on Wojo.

Preach homeboy!  Well said.

CountryRoads

Quote from: warriors141 on March 21, 2019, 06:36:42 PM
anyone hear what excuses wojo came up with after the game?

I watched it. Said Murray State is an outstanding team.

One guy said to Wojo..."you have a shooting guard sitting next to you, etc etc". Should have seen the look on Howard's face lol

willie warrior

Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 21, 2019, 05:51:53 PM
Pretty clear that Wojo just got game planned off the floor, out of the gym, and onto the bus by a random guy from the Ohio Valley Conference. But I'd like to get thoughts from those still defending Wojo on why this loss had nothing to do with him.... or the BET... or the end of the regular season... or the last 5 seasons in general.

I'll hang up and listen.
You will get 1, 2, or any combination of the following:
1. A steaming pile of bull crap
2. Crickets
3. More excuses
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.

willie warrior

Quote from: wadesworld on March 21, 2019, 06:08:53 PM
Well if the Wojo bashers get to ignore the first 27 games of the season wouldn't the slurpers get to ignore the final 7 games of the season? Or does is that just a one way street?
Now that is really piss poor.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.