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The great filter always is!

We ourselves are probably just a couple of years away from ai sound and video that is truly indistinguishable from real life. If we think misinformation is bad now, oh boy.

jesmu84

Why isn't there regulation demanding everything AI "created" have a logo/watermark/notation?

jesmu84

Why is AI permitted to learn (steal) from everything even if trademarked?

Shaka Shart

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 10, 2025, 03:46:21 PMWhy is AI permitted to learn (steal) from everything even if trademarked?

Because by the time they pass any half toothed legislation about it that gets past their lobbying arms, it'll already have been well worth the amount they've trained on it
#BanGBWarrior

pbiflyer

Quote from: The Sultan on October 10, 2025, 02:54:14 PMOK, well that was pretty depressing for a Friday afternoon.  :D

Have you considered turning to any of the AI self-help psychological tools to cure your depression?

MU82

"I think that we might have AI smarter than any single human, at anything, as soon as next year. ... And then probably within five years — like, say, 2030 — probably AI is smarter than the sum of all humans." - Elon Musk
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on October 13, 2025, 11:10:52 AM"I think that we might have AI smarter than any single human, at anything, as soon as next year. ... And then probably within five years — like, say, 2030 — probably AI is smarter than the sum of all humans." - Elon Musk


And if there is one person who is usually spot on with his predictions, it's this guy.

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Badgerhater

The NCAA couldn't control Al either.
When we stop talking, really bad stuff happens.


Uncle Rico

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 15, 2025, 08:04:04 PMhttps://youtu.be/Nq-Faw_ENEQ?si=k_qnQzp4PL43ugmr

Lol

The rich get richer at the cost of American exceptionalism.  It's remarkable the damage done to this country in 9 months in the name of the oligarchs.
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.


jficke13

stop paying attention to the intellectual progeny of Yudkowski, he and all of his ilk are lunatics that do not deserve the time of day let alone your respect. For real, a group of people who use as their formative texts a 300,000 word Harry Potter fanfic (that sucks) and a Harlan Ellison short story ("I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream," which admittedly whips) are not people we should assume are sophisticated and will proven right.

For "AI" to do the existential horror stuff it needs to be a scifi technology. It is not. There is no plausibly probable path for it to become what they are saying it will be. In fact, I think by far the most likely scenario is that the current gen "AI"/LLM based ecosystem is headed for collapse because it has no value proposition* and cannot possibly be profitable under any reckoning.

*"AI" as it currently exists has two use cases. The first is for financialization. E.g. "My company is in "AI" <spooky hands>, therefore I-Banks give me money" (this is depressingly viable). The second is for fraud and crime in general (this is also depressingly viable).

LLM/Machine Learning will survive but in niche applications. There is no general-ubiquity, public-facing use for them as they exist and are currently marketed. One clue? When Steve Jobs stood on a stage and held up an iphone, Apple didn't need to force everyone on earth to buy a smartphone. Everyone saw it as useful and bought one. Google/Microsoft/OpenAI are *forcing* "AI" bull-sh into every product to justify its existence over the objection of almost everyone who uses their products. It's... kinda different.

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MU82

Quote from: jficke13 on October 16, 2025, 03:54:33 PMstop paying attention to the intellectual progeny of Yudkowski, he and all of his ilk are lunatics that do not deserve the time of day let alone your respect. For real, a group of people who use as their formative texts a 300,000 word Harry Potter fanfic (that sucks) and a Harlan Ellison short story ("I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream," which admittedly whips) are not people we should assume are sophisticated and will proven right.

For "AI" to do the existential horror stuff it needs to be a scifi technology. It is not. There is no plausibly probable path for it to become what they are saying it will be. In fact, I think by far the most likely scenario is that the current gen "AI"/LLM based ecosystem is headed for collapse because it has no value proposition* and cannot possibly be profitable under any reckoning.

*"AI" as it currently exists has two use cases. The first is for financialization. E.g. "My company is in "AI" <spooky hands>, therefore I-Banks give me money" (this is depressingly viable). The second is for fraud and crime in general (this is also depressingly viable).

LLM/Machine Learning will survive but in niche applications. There is no general-ubiquity, public-facing use for them as they exist and are currently marketed. One clue? When Steve Jobs stood on a stage and held up an iphone, Apple didn't need to force everyone on earth to buy a smartphone. Everyone saw it as useful and bought one. Google/Microsoft/OpenAI are *forcing* "AI" bull-sh into every product to justify its existence over the objection of almost everyone who uses their products. It's... kinda different.

I'd believe you, but it sounds like AI already has infiltrated your brain.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell



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