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Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 22, 2014, 09:45:26 PM
Yes, not all point guards are good shooters, but every single one of the names mentioned was a better outside shooter than Derrick was last year.

Hopefully he will get better.  That's about all you can say now.

Derrick is a horrid shooter. Rondo is way better than him, but relative to the average NBA player he's horrid, too. He's probably the worst shooter (and the best basketball player) on the Celtics. Same may be true for John Wall.

MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 22, 2014, 09:37:53 PM
Best PG in MU history (Dean Meminger) wasn't a good shooter. Ramon Rondo and John Wall couldn't beat Ners in a game of H-O-R-S-E but they're pretty good NBA point guards.

I'm not sure what the point is here.

Sure, it would be swell if our PG was a Chris Paul type who could do it all including shoot jumpers with consistently great accuracy. But all one needs to do to be an effective offensive PG in college is be able to create offensively for himself and others. All three of those guys you mentioned were/are dynamic athletes who could/can beat anybody off the dribble, take it to the hole, finish in traffic and set up their teammates for easy buckets.

That's a PG's job description, in my book. Hitting the occasional J, at least well enough so that the defense can't sag 10 feet away, is a bonus.
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Quote from: mug644 on June 22, 2014, 09:50:54 PM
Juan has 1-2" over Lazar, but nowhere near the bulk. Juan will indeed have to battle bigs, but I don't see 'Zar as a model for how he might be able to do it successfully.

I don't expect Juan to be Lazar. I'm just saying he could learn from watching video of an undersized forward battling bigs. Not sure how that was an incorrect statement.
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Quote from: MU82 on June 22, 2014, 10:03:26 PM
I don't expect Juan to be Lazar. I'm just saying he could learn from watching video of an undersized forward battling bigs. Not sure how that was an incorrect statement.

Fair enough. I didn't see your comment as 'incorrect' but only reacted as I don't see Juan being able to play as Lazar did, simply because he's built differently.

And by that, I suppose I mean mentally. Lazar entered MU as more of an outside player, but by necessity and energy, he was willing and able to become a banger. I guess that's what you mean, and you want to see Juan do the same. I agree.

Unfortunately, I haven't seen much of a willingness on Juan's part to find a role for himself inside the paint like Lazar did.

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Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 22, 2014, 09:45:26 PM
Yes, not all point guards are good shooters, but every single one of the names mentioned was a better outside shooter than Derrick was last year.

Hopefully he will get better.  That's about all you can say now.
No there is more that one could say, like give 20 of his minutes to others--now that is hopeful!
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