#20 in coaches poll and AP

[Sir Lawrence]

Not that it matters much, but here are today's polls: 

Coaches

1. Ohio State (30) 30-3 773
2. Kansas (1) 30-4 733
3. Florida 29-5 694
4. North Carolina 28-6 651
5. Memphis 30-3 639
6. UCLA 26-5 606
7. Wisconsin 29-5 601
8. Georgetown 26-6 598
9. Texas A&M 25-6 508
10. Pittsburgh 27-7 451
11. Texas 24-9 442
12. Oregon 26-7 424
13. Nevada 28-4 368
13. Washington State 25-7 368
15. Southern Illinois 27-6 350
16. Louisville 23-9 292
17. Notre Dame 24-7 266
18. UNLV 28-6 176
19. Butler 27-6 167
20. Marquette 24-9 160
21. Winthrop 28-4 144
22. Maryland 24-8 117
23. Brigham Young 25-8 96
24. Creighton 22-10 80
25. USC 23-11 79

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
Duke 70, Davidson 55, Virginia Tech 45, Virginia 44, Virginia Commonwealth 19, Vanderbilt 13, Tennessee 12, Villanova 10, Boston College 7, West Virginia 6, Xavier 3, George Washington 3, Illinois 1, Syracuse 1, Air Force 1, Akron 1, Arizona 1.
DROPPED FROM RANKINGS
Duke 21, Virginia 24.

AP

1. Ohio State (71) 30-3 1,799
2. Kansas (1) 30-4 1,718
3. Florida 29-5 1,625
4. North Carolina 28-6 1,526
5. Memphis 30-3 1,491
6. Wisconsin 29-5 1,406
7. UCLA 26-5 1,394
8. Georgetown 26-6 1,378
9. Texas A&M 25-6 1,173
10. Oregon 26-7 1,044
11. Texas 24-9 1,042
12. Pittsburgh 27-7 1,018
13. Washington State 25-7 868
14. Southern Illinois 27-6 860
15. Nevada 28-4 820
16. Louisville 23-9 756
17. Notre Dame 24-7 522
18. Maryland 24-8 484
19. UNLV 28-6 483
20. Marquette 24-9 403
21. Butler 27-6 326
22. Winthrop 28-4 245
23. USC 23-11 168
24. Brigham Young 25-8 162
25. Tennessee 22-10 134

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
Creighton 104, Duke 103, Virginia 89, Virginia Commonwealth 53, Virginia Tech 42, Vanderbilt 34, Xavier 30, Arizona 19, New Mexico State 12, Boston College 10, Indiana 8, Arkansas 8, Davidson 7, Georgia Tech 6, Wright State 6, Michigan State 4, Illinois 4, George Washington 3, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi 3, Villanova 3.


link:   http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankingsindex

[WashDCWarrior]

Just for fun...

Here are the teams ranked below us, but have higher seeds.

#7 Boston College
#7 Indiana (received zero votes)
#6 Duke
#6 Vanderbilt
#5 VA Tech
#5 USC
#5 Tennessee
#4 Virginia
#4 Maryland

Way to go NCAA committee.  You nailed it!!

[LastWarrior]

I added in the RPI's of these teams.  Fyi, MU has a RPI of 22, MSU #24, NC #3, TX #25, & G'Town #9 per Pomeroy...

#7 Boston College #32
#7 Indiana (received zero votes) #28
#6 Duke #15
#6 Vanderbilt #47
#5 VA Tech #34
#5 USC #40
#5 Tennessee #12
#4 Virginia #55
#4 Maryland #16

So how the hell does Virginia get a 4 seed with a RPI of 55??  USC a 5 seed with a RPI of 40??  Vandy a 6 seed with a RPI of #47??  Somebody in the NCAA committee has some explaining to do... this is just WRONG!!

[Mayor McCheese]

I have Virginia's explanation... there in the ACC

[marquetteff03]

Let me get this straight? Simple math tells me that

20th ranked team / 4 brackets = 5th seed (6th is understandable)
but...

8th seed x 4 brackets = 32 (28-32 teams ahead of us)

That adds up real nicely

[LastWarrior]

I have Virginia's explanation... there in the ACC

So then why is their RPI so bad?  You could argue that it was boasted just by being in the ACC so then why is it so low??

[patso]

It must be (for some reason we do not know) that logic goes askew every year and schools with powerful alumni and influence we cannot imagine get just the nudge up necessary to guarantee the team succeeds in the NCAAs every year and gets better recruits in the years to come. That is my conspiracy theory.
Let an impartial body,  perhaps a basketball committee from Europe or Australia ,decide just using the raw hard data. We couldn't do any worse. We in turn could offer to have our committee make the brackets for their curling or cricket tourneys

[Mayor McCheese]

It must be (for some reason we do not know) that logic goes askew every year and schools with powerful alumni and influence we cannot imagine get just the nudge up necessary to guarantee the team succeeds in the NCAAs every year and gets better recruits in the years to come. That is my conspiracy theory.
Let an impartial body,  perhaps a basketball committee from Europe or Australia ,decide just using the raw hard data. We couldn't do any worse. We in turn could offer to have our committee make the brackets for their curling or cricket tourneys

or have the AP do it, or maybe the board from every conference (even the little guys) come together, same number for every group, just like the Senate does in the government.

[StillAWarrior]

It must be (for some reason we do not know) that logic goes askew every year and schools with powerful alumni and influence we cannot imagine get just the nudge up necessary to guarantee the team succeeds in the NCAAs every year and gets better recruits in the years to come. That is my conspiracy theory.
Let an impartial body,  perhaps a basketball committee from Europe or Australia ,decide just using the raw hard data. We couldn't do any worse. We in turn could offer to have our committee make the brackets for their curling or cricket tourneys

As I read all of this, it's hard for me to ignore the fact that the NCAA basketball tournament is the single greatest sporting event in the world.  At least that's the way that I feel about it.  Sure, it is flawed, but year in and year out, it's fantastic.  When people say things like, "we couldn't do any worse" I think they've lost sight of what a great event it is.  Just my two cents.

[Virginia Warrior 77]

The best way to prove the committee wrong is to play and prove them wrong.  Marquette needs to beat MSU and NC and shove the #8 seed down the committee's throat.

[patso]

100% correct