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mu_hilltopper

Legit question .. how much control does a school have over who applies?

The Sultan

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on October 09, 2022, 08:54:07 AM
Legit question .. how much control does a school have over who applies?

They don't. They have control over who they market to however.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocket surgeon

Well I hope most colleges are ready for this.  If one struggles with reading going into college, I don't know what to say except it can only add to cost of college education and I'll be damned if we have to keep paying for it.  Average cost per student is over $13k with New York, New Jersey and DC leading the way $22-24k per student


https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/even-before-pandemic-national-test-finds-most-seniors-unready-for-college-reading-math/2020/10

And these numbers are before the pandemic.  God help us what they are post pandemic
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The Sultan

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on October 09, 2022, 12:08:39 PM
Well I hope most colleges are ready for this.  If one struggles with reading going into college, I don't know what to say except it can only add to cost of college education and I'll be damned if we have to keep paying for it.  Average cost per student is over $13k with New York, New Jersey and DC leading the way $22-24k per student


https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/even-before-pandemic-national-test-finds-most-seniors-unready-for-college-reading-math/2020/10

And these numbers are before the pandemic.  God help us what they are post pandemic

Remedial writing and math are taught at nearly every college these days.
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tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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MU82

Quote from: tower912 on October 09, 2022, 12:17:00 PM
How about critical thinking?

No, but they're all indoctrinating our kids with critical race theory.
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mu_hilltopper

Not sure if this has been linked before ..

https://marquettewire.org/3982607/news/new-admissions-strategy-results-in-increasing-acceptance-rate/

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on October 09, 2022, 09:02:53 AM
They don't. They have control over who they market to however.

I guess what confuses me is .. the strategy to buy lists from testing companies, then market to the kids that are in your target demo .. doesn't sound groundbreaking.  Sounds like exactly what all colleges would do.  (And what all car companies, all beer companies, all travel companies, all toy companies do too.)

Does this mean SLU, with their 55% acceptance rate is just crappier at their market targeting?



The Sultan

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on October 10, 2022, 07:52:26 AM
Not sure if this has been linked before ..

https://marquettewire.org/3982607/news/new-admissions-strategy-results-in-increasing-acceptance-rate/

I guess what confuses me is .. the strategy to buy lists from testing companies, then market to the kids that are in your target demo .. doesn't sound groundbreaking.  Sounds like exactly what all colleges would do.  (And what all car companies, all beer companies, all travel companies, all toy companies do too.)

Does this mean SLU, with their 55% acceptance rate is just crappier at their market targeting?


That article is five years old. Marquette isn't soley basing their recruitment of students on purchasing lists from testing companies, because almost everyone is test optional now. My guess is that they are using third parties to target market to specific demographics that have work well for them in the past.

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

Based on the comments in this thread, would it be fair to say some schools are hesitant to make the leap due to perception of a high acceptance rate?

The Sultan

Quote from: cheebs09 on October 10, 2022, 08:21:47 AM
Based on the comments in this thread, would it be fair to say some schools are hesitant to make the leap due to perception of a high acceptance rate?


It could be, but all but the elite schools aren't going to be able to afford to be picky.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on October 10, 2022, 08:20:28 AM

That article is five years old. Marquette isn't soley basing their recruitment of students on purchasing lists from testing companies, because almost everyone is test optional now. My guess is that they are using third parties to target market to specific demographics that have work well for them in the past.

And that's natural .. one would expect new, better, or different data sources through the years.  That doesn't change the thesis that all schools would follow that path.

It's also interesting to think of this marketing scheme .. as one that neglects "certain" populations/demographics.

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