spring recruiting wish list

[MUONTOP]

This is basically where I'm at too. Does anyone really believe that Justin stunted his NBA potential (both playing and earning) by returning to Marquette this year instead of going the G League route?

If you're  a first round lock you go and take the guaranteed money. 
If you're coming out of high school and invited to be on the G League Elite, you go and chances are high that you're a first rounder the next year.
Beyond that you're really rolling the dice on yourself and eliminating some paths to guaranteed money.

I get the angle if you don't want to be in school, don't stay in school.

I get the risk of injury angle too, but you could get injured in the Gleague as well and you still wouldn't have any guaranteed money.

I think NIL has started to even the playing field between college and Gleague/Europe. Plenty of Kids in college are earning more than the Gleague minimum.

Justin was able to improve his game this year and showcase those improvements. His draft stock has risen as a result.

Doesn't mean it will be the same for the next player. There are many different paths.

Thank you and well stated, each player needs to make the best decision for themselves. The G-league and going overseas may be a good option for some but I don't believe there are many players who would shine brighter in the G-league rather than in a situation where they are the #1 option on an NCAA tournament team given the exposure that goes with it. That would require a very unique opportunity, skillset and player along with a series of events that provides playing time and opportunity. 

[Jockey]

Thank you and well stated, each player needs to make the best decision for themselves. The G-league and going overseas may be a good option for some but I don't believe there are many players who would shine brighter in the G-league rather than in a situation where they are the #1 option on an NCAA tournament team given the exposure that goes with it. That would require a very unique opportunity, skillset and player along with a series of events that provides playing time and opportunity.

Your point is well taken, but it is not about shining brightly. The G League has several advantages for a player.

Better coaching. More games and practices. Facing better defenses. Playing in a pro style offense.

Most importantly, the associated NBA team will get reports on him almost daily which is why almost half of players in the NBA played in the G League.

[BCHoopster]

Might as well just have all the kids go to the G league, college hoops will be secondary! 

[WhiteTrash]

Ok. Sure.

As an aside, can you please list the Big East guards who have had double digit assists in a conference game this season?

I can not list them.

I like TK and don't want to bash him. I think he is a fine major college PG but I feel like he has dropped off as an effective play maker lately compared to Nov-Jan. Maybe the BE has done a better job game planning for him and he can't adjust. It is only my opinion but his playing time on Sunday make me believe Shaka is feeling the same way.

I'd love to proven wrong the rest of the season and eat my words.

[Stretchdeltsig]

Might as well just have all the kids go to the G league, college hoops will be secondary!

Spot on. Lets focus on volleyball instead.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Why do some people get so prickly about players going to the g league instead of college? There's a limited number of games league roster spots,  college hoops is going nowhere

[StillWarriors]

I can not list them.

I like TK and don't want to bash him. I think he is a fine major college PG but I feel like he has dropped off as an effective play maker lately compared to Nov-Jan. Maybe the BE has done a better job game planning for him and he can't adjust. It is only my opinion but his playing time on Sunday make me believe Shaka is feeling the same way.

I'd love to proven wrong the rest of the season and eat my words.

Seems to me teams figured out how to defend the pick and roll, which is what we were dominating with during the winning streak, largely due to TK's ability to read and react to the D. TK's production, our assists and our offensive efficiency generally seem to have gone down since then. We have still found ways to score, but it hasn't been the clinic it was during that great stretch. That is the beauty and curse of a conference slate where teams all play each other twice. It forces teams and players to evolve. I think we are already seeing that with Tyler knocking down more 3s and attempting to finish at the rim more rather than kick it out since teams aren't leaving shooters.

[Scoop Snoop]

Seems to me teams figured out how to defend the pick and roll, which is what we were dominating with during the winning streak, largely due to TK's ability to read and react to the D. TK's production, our assists and our offensive efficiency generally seem to have gone down since then. We have still found ways to score, but it hasn't been the clinic it was during that great stretch. That is the beauty and curse of a conference slate where teams all play each other twice. It forces teams and players to evolve. I think we are already seeing that with Tyler knocking down more 3s and attempting to finish at the rim more rather than kick it out since teams aren't leaving shooters.

No argument that other coaches have learned how to handle Marquette. The narrative on scoop seems to be that this is strictly a one- way street. That's the part that does not make any sense to me.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I keep seeing complaints about the offense. The offense has been good during this rough patch. The defense is what is struggling

[WhiteTrash]

I keep seeing complaints about the offense. The offense has been good during this rough patch. The defense is what is struggling

Good point. I think Shaka can fix it.

[StillWarriors]

I keep seeing complaints about the offense. The offense has been good during this rough patch. The defense is what is struggling

I agree that the offense has still found a way to put up points, and that the biggest issues have been on the defensive end. We have had to find different ways to score that involve more individual effort from various guys, less TK initiated scoring and fewer dunks. It is a credit to the coaches and team that we still score enough points to win. I still think TK has a valuable role on this team, that he will be a key player for our success down the stretch and in the future. His role has just evolved with the defensive changes we have been faced with, in large part due to his incredible ability in running the pick and roll offense. The analytics for him during that stretch were outrageous.

[willie warrior]

I can not list them.

I like TK and don't want to bash him. I think he is a fine major college PG but I feel like he has dropped off as an effective play maker lately compared to Nov-Jan. Maybe the BE has done a better job game planning for him and he can't adjust. It is only my opinion but his playing time on Sunday make me believe Shaka is feeling the same way.

I'd love to proven wrong the rest of the season and eat my words.

You will be proven wrong, unless Shaka doubles down on reducing his playing time. Then we will be in a world of hurt.

[MU82]

I keep seeing complaints about the offense. The offense has been good during this rough patch. The defense is what is struggling

Which is something that few if any of us saw coming.

[Stretchdeltsig]

Why do some people get so prickly about players going to the g league instead of college? There's a limited number of games league roster spots,  college hoops is going nowhere

Why are you against college basketball?  Please leave.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Why are you against college basketball?  Please leave.

How is me saying that college hoops is strong and won't be meaningfully impacted by players going to the G League "against college basketball"?

[MU82]

How is me saying that college hoops is strong and won't be meaningfully impacted by players going to the G League "against college basketball"?

If thinking (hoping) that was teal-less teal.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

If thinking (hoping) that was teal-less teal.

Considering Stretch's well documented disdain for players who leave for the pros before the senior year, I don't think that's the case

[Stretchdeltsig]

Hey. I love Marquette basketball and want them to always play hard to win. If any scoopers are traveling to New Orleans on National Marquette Day please stop in at Buffa's Bar and Restaurant Bach Room to join fellow Alums and families to watch the Butler vs. Marquette game on a huge screen TV. Ring out Ahoya!

[muwarrior69]

Your point is well taken, but it is not about shining brightly. The G League has several advantages for a player.

Better coaching. More games and practices. Facing better defenses. Playing in a pro style offense.

Most importantly, the associated NBA team will get reports on him almost daily which is why almost half of players in the NBA played in the G League.

...and how is this good for Marquette?

[GOO]

If a recruits sole goal is to try to get to the NBA, unless they are a sure one and done, then Marquette may not be the best fit for that type of recruit.  If the values of a player centers primarily on growth as a basketball player, and not other concerns, Marquette  may not be best for them if they are not clearly a one and done type. 

If they value personal growth, education and other concerns in addition to basketball, then Marquette may be a better fit. So it is better if the former types of players go to the G league or overseas rather than another college.  I doubt they end up at Marquette anyway.