Haanif Gone

[dgies9156]

A couple of things from Marquette's standpoint that have a lot of this board fretting.

1) Haani was a high three-star or four-star recruit. Like Jeronne Maymon of yesteryear, we spent much time and energy recruiting him. Plus, he was from South Florida and represented a new and potentially lucrative recruiting ground for Marquette. He was a high-profile guy who, with Henry Ellenson, gave us a very strong class that was nationally noticed. When this kind of a recruit leaves, for whatever reason, we wonder.

2) Haani, as many pointed out, didn't perform consistent with his hype. He was a good ballplayer yes -- good enough to start for us this year. But for a person as well-hyped as Haani, he theoretically should have been one of the best guards in the conference, if not the country. He wasn't, so it causes us to wonder whether it was Marquette or the player that stumbled.

3) We have to assign blame. That's who we are as Scoopers, unfortunately. We can't and usually won't accept Haani's explanation at face value. There most likely is something personal going on but.....

Next man up and, again, we wish him well.

[rocky_warrior]

I don't doubt Haanif will end up closer to home, and that is likely his goal.  But...

I also have no doubts (though will admit that it's only speculation) that "personal reasons" is a scripted line that Wojo, Haanif and the rest of the staff agreed to use to increase his chances to get more playing time elsewhere.  It doesn't even matter if it's true (there's probably some truth to it), but as long as it's a semi-amicable departure ,the staff will do everything they can to get Haanif more playing time elsewhere.

This goes for about every other time any coaching staff utters the term "personal reasons"

No conspiracy, just part of the game of NCAA hoops.  'nuff said.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I don't doubt Haanif will end up closer to home, and that is likely his goal.  But...

I also have no doubts (though will admit that it's only speculation) that "personal reasons" is a scripted line that Wojo, Haanif and the rest of the staff agreed to use to increase his chances to get more playing time elsewhere.  It doesn't even matter if it's true (there's probably some truth to it), but as long as it's a semi-amicable departure ,the staff will do everything they can to get Haanif more playing time elsewhere.

This goes for about every other time any coaching staff utters the term "personal reasons"

No conspiracy, just part of the game of NCAA hoops.  'nuff said.

+1

[GGGG]

I don't doubt Haanif will end up closer to home, and that is likely his goal.  But...

I also have no doubts (though will admit that it's only speculation) that "personal reasons" is a scripted line that Wojo, Haanif and the rest of the staff agreed to use to increase his chances to get more playing time elsewhere.  It doesn't even matter if it's true (there's probably some truth to it), but as long as it's a semi-amicable departure ,the staff will do everything they can to get Haanif more playing time elsewhere.

This goes for about every other time any coaching staff utters the term "personal reasons"

No conspiracy, just part of the game of NCAA hoops.  'nuff said.

Yep.

I tend to think we look at these things as an "either/or" when they are likely a mix of both.  Does he have some personal problems to deal with?  I'm sure.  No reason to lie about that.  However if he was a 20/8/6 guy who was leading the team in minutes, would he still be leaving?  Not so sure.

[Dawson Rental]

Again, with Haanif being gone it allows someone like G. Elliott to get those minutes and grow. Taller, more athletic, and actually dunks.  Criticism of his shot?  Haanif couldn't shoot either.  It seems like from the simple stats that GE brings blocks, rebounds, shots, assists, and steals.

Anyway, if Hannif didn't want to be in the program, then good luck to him and be gone.  Long term, I really wouldn't want the program to invest resources and time in a guy that isn't going to be here or doesn't want to be here.  I think this allows players like Sacaar and GE to play, blossom, develop, and step up.

As far as Wojo, I'm entirely optimistic about the future with players like Joey Hauser coming in.  A 6'8" stud that is a coach's son, winner, high IQ, and has the inside out game.  A transfer like Morrow that is a post presence and will contribute immediately.  The addition of HF at semester that is a 6'10' guy and will contribute immediately.  Bailey coming in that is again a 6'8" shooter with pedigree.  Plus throw in Heldt for another serviceable year along with TJ entering his second year.  We will be far from the 6'5"-6'7" switchable we were in the past.

In the end I am not going to fret over a guy like Haanif that really seemed like he plateaued and whose game is limited.  Again, if he was going to be the Man, then he would have been the Man.  We squeaked into the tourney last year.  I'm hoping we do the same this year.  Next year I think we will be improved at every position with the additions.

Ultimately, I agree with most of the posts here.  Wojo seems to be clear with player's roles.  If they don't agree, embrace that role and want to transfer. . .then that is on them.  Good luck at a lower level program!

Haanif is taller than Greg.

Morrow, Joey, and Brendon coming on board next year will lead to someone to MU having a better team next year and will also probaly lead to one or two more departures at semester break.  It's the way of an improving program.

[We R Final Four]

Greg can play above the rim—HC cannot.

[bilsu]

I just went on the gomarquette site to look at season statistics. I wanted to know what Howards 3 point percentage was after the last game. What I found interesting was that Hanif was not listed in the statistics at all. Seems pretty vindictive to me.

[Jockey]

I just went on the gomarquette site to look at season statistics. I wanted to know what Howards 3 point percentage was after the last game. What I found interesting was that Hanif was not listed in the statistics at all. Seems pretty vindictive to me.

Why? He isn't part of the team. SOP.

[94Warrior]

I just went on the gomarquette site to look at season statistics. I wanted to know what Howards 3 point percentage was after the last game. What I found interesting was that Hanif was not listed in the statistics at all. Seems pretty vindictive to me.

More amazing is he was removed from the Pray and Intro videos on the BC  JumboTron just hours after the release last Monday night.  Either you're with us or against us!  Go MU!

What was Markus's 3P% ?

[We R Final Four]

He gowne.

[MuMark]

I just went on the gomarquette site to look at season statistics. I wanted to know what Howards 3 point percentage was after the last game. What I found interesting was that Hanif was not listed in the statistics at all. Seems pretty vindictive to me.

Lol......this has always been done.

[real chili 83]

I also have no doubts (though will admit that it's only speculation) that "personal reasons" is a scripted line that Wojo, Haanif and the rest of the staff agreed to use to increase his chances to get more playing time elsewhere.

Ding ding ding

[rocket surgeon]

More amazing is he was removed from the Pray and Intro videos on the BC  JumboTron just hours after the release last Monday night.  Either you're with us or against us!  Go MU!

What was Markus's 3P% ?

26/64-40.6%  the LSU game stung a little as he went 3/9.  otherwise, 9/20, 9/18, 5/11 and 11/16

[Marcus92]

Minutes no matter to steal % and block %. But yeah,  that's impressive numbers for a frosh

Sorry if I wasn't clear. In addition to leading the team in steal and block percentage, Greg also leads in actual steals (9) and blocks (9).

[Stretchdeltsig]

Hanif may be taller but he plays shorter than Greg on offense and defense.  I wish he would have stayed for depth, bit, it was becoming clear that he was moving deeper down the bench.

[brewcity77]

Hanif may be taller but he plays shorter than Greg on offense and defense.  I wish he would have stayed for depth, bit, it was becoming clear that he was moving deeper down the bench.

Ehh...not really. Cheatham & played more minutes than Elliott in every game. Elliott was only within 5 minutes of HC in 2 games -- the MSM a blowout in which Elliott & company were pulled when they let the lead get too close & the LSU game. I'd hardly call Elliott almost playing as many minutes as Haani in one game evidence "that he was moving deeper down the bench." I mean...he wasn't on the bench in the first place.

This doesn't feel at all like a Carter/Howard situation where Howard had played more minutes in 4 consecutive games and scored more in 3 consecutive, then followed it up with two more 20+ minute, double-digit outings while Carter was sitting with his knee.

And while I really like Elliott's skillset, defense, & early impressions, let's not forget he's a freshman and could still go either way. He might be the next great thing, he might be the next Todd Mayo, who's just a guy until he leaves the program.

[bilsu]

Why? He isn't part of the team. SOP.

The prior years they still listed the other players that left at mid-season in the season statistics.

[PGsHeroes32]

26/64-40.6%  the LSU game stung a little as he went 3/9.  otherwise, 9/20, 9/18, 5/11 and 11/16

You listed his overall 3 pt %

Then gave a bunch of games of his field goal %

[rocket surgeon]

You listed his overall 3 pt %

Then gave a bunch of games of his field goal %

correct-94warrior asked what his 3 pt % was.  i just thought the 11/16 was obviously the chicago state game and went on to show all the other games for comparison to come up with 40.6%  i guess i could have put it out in neat little rows

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Haani just posted a pic on Instagram of him in MU Jersey saying "I'll be back".

He deleted it like 2 mins later.

FWIW, probably not much.

[Jay Bee]

By age/class perhaps, but in terms of actual games played, MU was one of the least experienced teams in the nation last year.

If by "least experienced" you mean "average experience"

[GoldenDieners32]

Hopefully woj can even out the classes, next year we will have 5 juniors and 4 sophomores?

[Dawson Rental]

Hopefully woj can even out the classes, next year we will have 5 juniors and 4 sophomores?

As it currently stands, 5 juniors and 3 sophomores, 3 freshmen.