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bilsu

Quote from: MUfan12 on April 03, 2012, 08:55:35 AM
Sure hope the staff doesn't share that view. Never know when someone will leave.

If there's a top 50 player that at one point was near committing, you keep on him.
We already have enough guards.

GGGG

Quote from: bilsu on April 03, 2012, 12:21:06 PM
We already have enough guards.

Honestly, I agree with this sentiment.  Not saying we have no room, but it would be nice to get a Steve Taylor-esque wing in this class.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: bilsu on April 03, 2012, 12:21:06 PM
We already have enough guards.

Yes but if a top 20 guard wants to come to MU, even if you have 11 guards on the roster, you make room for him.

lab_warrior

Don't really see the need for the hysterical, tweaking-out title of this post.  Buzz has proven to be a damn good recruiter, and if he can work it out so Nunn is in an MU uni, it'll happen.  The kid is a major talent, I'm sure he's after him.  And if he doesn't, that sure as hell doesn't mean Buzz "messed up."  Ease up a bit...not so many exclamation points, please. (I should know, I overuse them too, just not 5 of them,  and in post titles.) 

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chapman

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 03, 2012, 12:48:03 PM
Yes but if a top 20 guard wants to come to MU, even if you have 11 guards on the roster, you make room for him.

Agree.  If Nunn's as good as billed we have Mayo, Taylor, and a bunch of guys who couldn't hold his jock.

Goose

He is pretty frickin good and would be impact player from day one. No doubt in mind if he wants to go to MU we find room for him in a hurry.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: jonny09 on April 02, 2012, 09:30:10 PM
Ranked number 18 in the country by rivals.com.  Seen him in person and his athleticism is off the charts.  Smooth stroke from deep as well.  Make him a priority right now.  He's making an unofficial to Illinois.   Don't make the HUGE mistake of letting him get away!!!!

Taking Nunn just makes it harder to find room for Parker.  ::)
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Otule's Glass Eye

Quote from: LittleMurs on April 03, 2012, 02:00:51 PM
Taking Nunn just makes it harder to find room for Parker.  ::)

Why does Otule NEED the 6th year? Hasn't he been here long enough? He's costing us chances every year with his injuries. We already have Gardner and then Durley coming in so we are good at center after Otule graduates. I think Durley will turn out to be better than Otule anyway. That takes care of getting Nunn. THEN, we could also get Parker if someone (JWilson, Mayo) decides to leave early for the draft.

AZWarrior

Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on April 03, 2012, 03:52:36 PM
Why does Otule NEED the 6th year? Hasn't he been here long enough? He's costing us chances every year with his injuries. We already have Gardner and then Durley coming in so we are good at center after Otule graduates. I think Durley will turn out to be better than Otule anyway. That takes care of getting Nunn. THEN, we could also get Parker if someone (JWilson, Mayo) decides to leave early for the draft.

Why would Otule want to stay here a sixth year?  Unless he's getting his MBA with tuition covered, I'd expect him to want to start playing somewhere for money.
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

Ellenson Guerrero

Quote from: AZWarrior on April 03, 2012, 03:57:58 PM
Why would Otule want to stay here a sixth year?  Unless he's getting his MBA with tuition covered, I'd expect him to want to start playing somewhere for money.

Idk, I'm not sure how anxious I'd be to jump over to Turkey, Uruguay, Japan, or some other godforsaken place to play for 50k a year. As long as I was getting free room, board, and education, I'd choose that.

As for Nunn, he's going to be a good player. Will he be a great player? I'm not sure yet. If he wants to come to MU and we have room, great. But I wouldn't be all for kicking kids to the curb for him (as previous posters have suggested). If it were Parker, then you'd have my attention...
"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

GGGG

Quote from: AZWarrior on April 03, 2012, 03:57:58 PM
Why would Otule want to stay here a sixth year?  Unless he's getting his MBA with tuition covered, I'd expect him to want to start playing somewhere for money.


Why do people keep asking this question?  Seriously, don't you think he has already talked to Buzz about this?  Maybe he wants to keep playing in college and rack of a few graduate credits.

Honestly, have you ever heard of a division one college athlete who has been granted an extra year not using it???

AZWarrior

I could have gotten a fellowship to pay for a year of a master's degree.  I was hungry/greedy and wanted to start working, so I skipped the fellowship and took a job.  Perhaps Otule feels the same way.  If he felt that staying an extra year would increase his earning power, then it would make sense to stay.  Otherwise go get a paycheck.
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

GGGG

Quote from: AZWarrior on April 03, 2012, 04:28:07 PM
I could have gotten a fellowship to pay for a year of a master's degree.  I was hungry/greedy and wanted to start working, so I skipped the fellowship and took a job.  Perhaps Otule feels the same way.  If he felt that staying an extra year would increase his earning power, then it would make sense to stay.  Otherwise go get a paycheck.


OK.  Again, I wish people on here would stop applying their values to major college athletes.  YOUR experience is NOTHING LIKE Chris Otule's.  He is a major college athlete who has dedicated a good portion of his life to playing basketball.

Goose

I believe that both Chris and Buzz will figure out a plan that will work for all parties. I am all for him staying for sixth year if healthy and happy if he decides next year is it. Every kid should experience the college experience for as long as they and the school want.

GGGG

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 03, 2012, 04:31:22 PM

OK.  Again, I wish people on here would stop applying their values to major college athletes.  YOUR experience is NOTHING LIKE Chris Otule's.  He is a major college athlete who has dedicated a good portion of his life to playing basketball.

Let me just also add to this, that if he gets hurt again next year, my guess is that he will throw in the towel. 

Dawson Rental

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 03, 2012, 04:31:22 PM

OK.  Again, I wish people on here would stop applying their values to major college athletes.  YOUR experience is NOTHING LIKE Chris Otule's.  He is a major college athlete who has dedicated a good portion of his life to playing basketball.

Some posters (probably me included) believe that If Chris Otule doesn't return for a sixth year, MU has an opportunity to recruit a better player with the scholarship that will open up.  Since all indications are that Chris is returning, some posters provide scenarios under which Chris might decide not to return, to comfort themselves into thinking that the scholarship might open up.  It's not really surprising.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

bamamarquettefan

Quote from: jonny09 on April 02, 2012, 10:08:58 PM
I'm paying attention.  I know that he knows what's going on.  Have tons of faith in Buzz.  Just got a little spooked he might not be a priority after we signed Duane Wilson who is also a great talent.  Just don't think at the same level as Nunn
I agree with you and am sure Buzz is working it - thanks for your post.  I wouldn't worry about the Wilson signing because any time we can get someone at his level you grab them - need to have one for sure rather than holding out for the top guy possible and then be left with nothing.  I hate to say it, but if the No. 18 player in the country ends up wanting to come to Marquette I am 95% sure we are going to sign him.  I hate to think of what that means, but you find a way to ink a player that big.
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"I could see that Kendrick nunn was a national championship caliber guard from the first time I saw him."

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Quote from: Z F-B on April 03, 2012, 07:44:17 PM
"I could see that Kendrick nunn was a national championship caliber guard from the first time I saw him."

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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on April 03, 2012, 03:52:36 PM
Why does Otule NEED the 6th year? Hasn't he been here long enough? He's costing us chances every year with his injuries. We already have Gardner and then Durley coming in so we are good at center after Otule graduates. I think Durley will turn out to be better than Otule anyway. That takes care of getting Nunn. THEN, we could also get Parker if someone (JWilson, Mayo) decides to leave early for the draft.

Otule not getting a 6th year wouldn't take care of a scholarship for Nunn.  It would take care of the scholarship needed for Duane Wilson.  THEN, we could also get Nunn if someone (JWilson, Mayo) decides to leave early for the draft.  Incidentally, JWilson will definitely be leaving early for the draft after he averages 18/8 next year.  That's a given.  So no need to worry.

AZWarrior

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 03, 2012, 04:31:22 PM

OK.  Again, I wish people on here would stop applying their values to major college athletes. 

Go ahead and wish all you like.  I will continue to speculate.  It's a board, after all.   ::)
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

GGGG

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Quote from: AZWarrior on April 03, 2012, 09:08:18 PM
Go ahead and wish all you like.  I will continue to speculate.  It's a board, after all.   ::)


I speculate that you have no clue what you are talking about.  Fair?  You have no idea what drives Chris Otule...you have no idea what conversations he has had with Buzz and his family.

Simply put, I have never heard of an athlete being granted a sixth year and simply deciding that he has had too much.

brewcity77

My honest opinion...outside of Jabari Parker, I'm not sure there's anyone I'd rather have with Otule's scholarship for 2013-14 than CO. Even Nunn. And I realize the schollie situation...just saying that having a 6th year senior center with Chris' wingspan, defense, and work ethic would be fantastic, and other than a one-and-done talent, would anyone we could add realistically be a better compliment for Gardner than the guy we already have? And considering that we have been mentioned with I believe 7-8 of the top-10 players in 2014, that's a perfect year to have a scholarship open up.

ibechillindoe

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 03, 2012, 09:26:41 PM
My honest opinion...outside of Jabari Parker, I'm not sure there's anyone I'd rather have with Otule's scholarship for 2013-14 than CO. Even Nunn. And I realize the schollie situation...just saying that having a 6th year senior center with Chris' wingspan, defense, and work ethic would be fantastic, and other than a one-and-done talent, would anyone we could add realistically be a better compliment for Gardner than the guy we already have? And considering that we have been mentioned with I believe 7-8 of the top-10 players in 2014, that's a perfect year to have a scholarship open up.

I agree with mostly everything stated here. If Nunn was a top 100 center/power forward instead of a position where we have lots of players than I would take him. I would like to even out the recruiting classes, but Otule is very valuable to a team that I think can make a deep run that year. This doesn't mean I don't think we have a shot at Nunn. As of now I think we still get Nunn, no knowledge besides what has been reported. Nunn would be a great player to get, but Otule is even more key for that year.

AZWarrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 03, 2012, 09:26:41 PM
My honest opinion...outside of Jabari Parker, I'm not sure there's anyone I'd rather have with Otule's scholarship for 2013-14 than CO. Even Nunn. And I realize the schollie situation...just saying that having a 6th year senior center with Chris' wingspan, defense, and work ethic would be fantastic, and other than a one-and-done talent, would anyone we could add realistically be a better compliment for Gardner than the guy we already have? And considering that we have been mentioned with I believe 7-8 of the top-10 players in 2014, that's a perfect year to have a scholarship open up.

Agreed - real nice perspective.

And to Sultan:  "Nanny, nanny goo-goo".   ;)
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

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