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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on October 16, 2021, 08:25:59 PM

Title: Marquette/BC
Post by: tower912 on October 16, 2021, 08:25:59 PM
Rumors of the proverbial secret scrimmage.   Hope Michael Beasley didn't go for 50.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: JakeBarnes on October 16, 2021, 08:59:42 PM
This can only hurt our seeding
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: 77ncaachamps on October 17, 2021, 12:48:29 AM
Dang. Look at Nova's.

https://watchstadium.com/not-so-secret-list-of-2021-college-basketball-scrimmages-10-15-2021/
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: jfp61 on October 17, 2021, 07:27:37 AM
Marquette apparently won by 6. No notion of what the structure was.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: tower912 on October 17, 2021, 07:37:07 AM
Shaka continues his undefeated streak at MU.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: JakeBarnes on October 17, 2021, 08:46:23 AM
Marquette apparently won by 6. No notion of what the structure was.

Sounds like Marquette shot 60% from 3. That seems to be a point of emphasis that many worry about here.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Newsdreams on October 17, 2021, 09:04:17 AM
Sounds like Marquette shot 60% from 3. That seems to be a point of emphasis that many worry about here.
It's BC! It's BC! How many 3 shots did MU take?
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 17, 2021, 09:05:36 AM
It's BC! It's BC! How many 3 shots did MU take?

5
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Newsdreams on October 17, 2021, 10:09:59 AM
5
Very much a small sample. But I don't expect team to take a lot of 3's
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 17, 2021, 10:19:17 AM
5 is just the smallest number to get you an even 60%.  I’m sure more threes were taken.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: JakeBarnes on October 17, 2021, 10:21:03 AM
Very much a small sample. But I don't expect team to take a lot of 3's

Given Nevada's system is predicated on high screens and kick outs for open 3s, I expect a lot of them.

Where did the 5 come from? I am yet to see/hear about a box score. 
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 17, 2021, 10:24:51 AM
Given Nevada's system is predicated on high screens and kick outs for open 3s, I expect a lot of them.

Where did the 5 come from? I am yet to see/hear about a box score.

See above.  I think he was kidding.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Tha Hound on October 17, 2021, 05:24:59 PM
Surely someone has more information on this performance
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Jay Bee on October 17, 2021, 07:38:20 PM
The shooting background was favorable for us. If the game was at the BC and we played BC, we’d be lucky to shoot 12% from deep
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: pbiflyer on October 17, 2021, 07:51:31 PM
Surely someone has more information on this performance

Yes, but none of them post here.  >:(
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: tower912 on October 17, 2021, 07:55:12 PM
Apparently the BC scout paid subscriber page has details about the scrimmage.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Tha Hound on October 17, 2021, 07:58:40 PM
Apparently the BC scout paid subscriber page has details about the scrimmage.

*fart noise*
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: tower912 on October 17, 2021, 08:07:34 PM
Agreed
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 17, 2021, 09:04:32 PM
The shooting background was favorable for us. If the game was at the BC and we played BC, we’d be lucky to shoot 12% from deep

Ha! 
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: MUUWUWM on October 17, 2021, 09:45:14 PM
12 of 20 from three..from another board
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 17, 2021, 09:49:49 PM
12 of 20 from three..from another board

That would be nice.  Hope your source is more accurate than Rico’s teal source. 
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Tha Hound on October 18, 2021, 12:41:00 PM
12 of 20 from three..from another board

12 of 20 from three and we only beat a bad team by 6? Something seems wrong
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 18, 2021, 01:14:53 PM
12 of 20 from three and we only beat a bad team by 6? Something seems wrong

I wouldn’t read much into anything from this “game”
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: JakeBarnes on October 18, 2021, 01:35:58 PM
12 of 20 from three and we only beat a bad team by 6? Something seems wrong

Per other reports it was more of a "set up some plays" situation than it was a full on game simulation.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 18, 2021, 01:48:48 PM
12 of 20 from three and we only beat a bad team by 6? Something seems wrong

While I would read next to nothing into this game, we're probably going to need to shoot 60% from deep to beat teams better than BC. Gonna be a longggg season.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: We R Final Four on October 18, 2021, 02:02:39 PM
There he is.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: avid1010 on October 18, 2021, 02:05:51 PM
While I would read next to nothing into this game, we're probably going to need to shoot 60% from deep to beat teams better than BC. Gonna be a longggg season.
We just went through the Wojo years...and you're worried THIS year being long?
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 18, 2021, 02:59:21 PM
While I would read next to nothing into this game, we're probably going to need to shoot 60% from deep to beat teams better than BC. Gonna be a longggg season.

If we need to shoot 60% from three to beat teams our defense will be historically bad.  I’m hoping for better D than that. 
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: MUfan12 on October 18, 2021, 03:50:31 PM
While I would read next to nothing into this game, we're probably going to need to shoot 60% from deep to beat teams better than BC. Gonna be a longggg season.

Would it make you feel better if MU was up 15-20 most of the second half, and the lead shrunk in garbage time?
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: PointWarrior on October 18, 2021, 04:33:13 PM
Nominated for the first dumbest post of the year.

While I would read next to nothing into this game, we're probably going to need to shoot 60% from deep to beat teams better than BC. Gonna be a longggg season.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Golden Avalanche on October 18, 2021, 05:57:39 PM
Would it make you feel better if MU was up 15-20 most of the second half, and the lead shrunk in garbage time?

Great. Now it'll start a "Shaka's teams can barely hold a lead" narrative.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 18, 2021, 06:38:01 PM
Great. Now it'll start a "Shaka's teams can barely hold a lead" narrative.

Ha!  Haters gonna hate. 
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 18, 2021, 07:14:39 PM
Would it make you feel better if MU was up 15-20 most of the second half, and the lead shrunk in garbage time?

Yes!
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 18, 2021, 07:22:53 PM
Per other reports it was more of a "set up some plays" situation than it was a full on game simulation.

Did we run an inbounds play successfully?
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: tower912 on October 18, 2021, 07:51:12 PM
Did we run an inbounds play successfully?

Just have Markus lob it to Sam.    History made. 
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 24, 2021, 03:25:04 PM
Uh oh, Nova just took a seeding hit:

https://balldurham.com/2021/10/23/duke-basketball-star-secret-scrimmage/
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The secret was already out, but it became more evident to Villanova on Saturday afternoon: Duke basketball power forward Paolo Banchero is a beast.

Per tweets from Blue Devil insider Zion Olojede, the 6-foot-10, 250-pound freshman out of Seattle totaled a double-double with 29 points and 12 boards in leading Duke, who ranks No. 9 in the Preseason AP Top 25, to a not-so-hush-hush “win” over the No. 4 Wildcats in Washington, D.C.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Newsdreams on October 24, 2021, 04:31:09 PM
Uh oh, Nova just took a seeding hit:

https://balldurham.com/2021/10/23/duke-basketball-star-secret-scrimmage/
No Theo mention??
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: panda on October 24, 2021, 04:49:09 PM
No Theo mention??

Duke posted a highlight video on their twitter account. He had a few buckets, but probably won’t get a ton of minutes this year.

He’s not a bad 8th option on a great team.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Newsdreams on October 24, 2021, 06:02:39 PM
Duke posted a highlight video on their twitter account. He had a few buckets, but probably won’t get a ton of minutes this year.

He’s not a bad 8th option on a great team.
It was teal like
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 24, 2021, 06:54:31 PM
No Theo mention??

How about Theo video for you?

https://twitter.com/duketwtlive/status/1452050245005811716?s=21
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 24, 2021, 06:57:28 PM
Loyola over Wisconsin 71-56

https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1452025521374629891?s=21
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: tower912 on October 24, 2021, 07:01:43 PM
Moser was holding Loyola back.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: fjm on October 24, 2021, 07:56:01 PM
Loyola over Wisconsin 71-56

https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1452025521374629891?s=21

I was bored yesterday and read that thread. It’s amazing how if poor badger fans ever lose anything, they immediately tell the fan base on Twitter that “it’s your super bowl”. It’s their pathetic go to line. It’s got to be taught in an incoming freshman class or some shiz?
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 24, 2021, 10:19:38 PM
Why are there no tweets on MUs secret scrimmage?  I know there were posts about the number of threes made but it felt like guess work.  No official tweets came out.  Or did I miss something? 
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: JWags85 on October 24, 2021, 10:45:06 PM
I was bored yesterday and read that thread. It’s amazing how if poor badger fans ever lose anything, they immediately tell the fan base on Twitter that “it’s your super bowl”. It’s their pathetic go to line. It’s got to be taught in an incoming freshman class or some shiz?

I like the one dude who replies to like 5 different people saying to stop freaking out cause 2 Badger freshmen didn’t play.  Cause we all know Badger freshman recruits outside of the top 100 are always the huge difference makers in that program
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: The Lens on October 25, 2021, 08:45:03 AM
Duke posted a highlight video on their twitter account. He had a few buckets, but probably won’t get a ton of minutes this year.

He’s not a bad 8th option on a great team.

I thought I've read he's there starting 5.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: tower912 on October 25, 2021, 08:50:28 AM
Back up to a freshman.   Speculation that they might run a mammoth front line out there.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: panda on October 25, 2021, 10:36:30 AM
Back up to a freshman.   Speculation that they might run a mammoth front line out there.

They’re much more likely to go small with Paolo spelling Williams at the 5 and putting AJ griffin at the 4.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: The Lens on October 25, 2021, 10:57:50 AM
I thought I've read he's there starting 5.

All this Dayton talk has me communicating like a Flyer.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: tower912 on October 25, 2021, 11:01:57 AM
https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2021/10/duke-mens-basketball-player-preview-theo-john

Duke fan projection for Theo.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 25, 2021, 11:07:51 AM
https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2021/10/duke-mens-basketball-player-preview-theo-john

Duke fan projection for Theo.

Aside from Gafford being exponentially more athletic.  That is a fair comparison of his role this year at Duke.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Herman Cain on October 25, 2021, 11:12:27 AM
https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2021/10/duke-mens-basketball-player-preview-theo-john

Duke fan projection for Theo.
Their student newspaper does a nice job covering the team and other sports .
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Jay Bee on October 25, 2021, 01:13:40 PM
Haven't followed Gafford in the NBA, but as a college player, definitely not a guy I'd compare with Theo. Gafford far more agile, fluid, can run and bounce... much more of an offensive guy.. .fairly high usage guy (~mid-20%s vs. John well under 20%)... far, far better rebounding numbers, and turnover rate %'s. They both can block shots and get to the line, but... yeah, don't love the comp.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 25, 2021, 02:17:53 PM
Haven't followed Gafford in the NBA, but as a college player, definitely not a guy I'd compare with Theo. Gafford far more agile, fluid, can run and bounce... much more of an offensive guy.. .fairly high usage guy (~mid-20%s vs. John well under 20%)... far, far better rebounding numbers, and turnover rate %'s. They both can block shots and get to the line, but... yeah, don't love the comp.

Agreed.  They’ll be surprised at how unathletic Theo is, especially in traffic.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: tower912 on October 25, 2021, 02:27:21 PM
As a 15-18 mpg third/fourth big, he will be a dream come true at Duke.     That is all he needs to be.     Barring injury or foul trouble. 
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: panda on October 25, 2021, 02:47:22 PM
He was asked to do way,way, way too much offensively last season. He shouldn’t have to worry about foul trouble with the minutes he’ll be receiving.

HE’ll be a good addition to a good team.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: BLM on October 25, 2021, 02:48:14 PM
He fits the Duke big man Brian Zubak mold.  He'll be asked to set ginormous screens and take up space in the lane defensively.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 25, 2021, 03:27:13 PM
Did Marquette scrimmage Loyola?  It looks like some of this footage is at Loyola.

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1452732385427140612?s=20
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: BLM on October 25, 2021, 03:35:02 PM
Did Marquette scrimmage Loyola?  It looks like some of this footage is at Loyola.

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1452732385427140612?s=20

Love Shaka's emphasis on dunking everything at the rim.  I remember a video from early in the offseason when Osa was finishing through the coach's padding and he layed it in.  Shaka stopped the drill and put Osa back to the front of the line and made him do it again but finish with the dunk.  Also love that we practice throwing oops.  Going to need our guards collapsing the defense.  They'll need to be able to throw the lob and kick to a corner for an open 3.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: zcg2013 on October 25, 2021, 03:36:04 PM
Did Marquette scrimmage Loyola?  It looks like some of this footage is at Loyola.

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1452732385427140612?s=20

The players were posting all weekend about being in Chicago so maybe???
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: tower912 on October 25, 2021, 03:39:49 PM
Then seeing that 15 seconds reminds me that we are going to have the longest, deepest, most athletic team we have had in some time.   6 guys over 6'7.    6 guards between 6'3 and 6'5.    MU may be switching everything on the perimeter from 1-4.    And with some line ups, they may be switching 1-5.      Those are the things that keep me from despairing and gives me hope that maybe, just maybe, it all falls together.   
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 25, 2021, 03:41:32 PM
Maybe the team just took a tiny vacation? Buzz used to do a northwoods camping trip IIRC
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 25, 2021, 03:46:25 PM
Did Marquette scrimmage Loyola?  It looks like some of this footage is at Loyola.

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1452732385427140612?s=20

At The Alfie

https://loyolaramblers.com/facilities/alfie-norville-practice-facility/5
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 25, 2021, 03:48:48 PM
MU tweeted they practiced there during their team retreat.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: BLM on October 25, 2021, 03:49:32 PM
Defensively we'll have our own Davion Mitchell (Morsell), Mark Vital (Lewis), and Tchamwa Tchatchoua (Kuath).  Now we need to find Butler, Teague, and Flagler and then some offense.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: HarpnShamDollaBeers on October 25, 2021, 04:03:07 PM
Did Marquette scrimmage Loyola?  It looks like some of this footage is at Loyola.

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1452732385427140612?s=20

Rothstein reported that Loyola beat the blocks off of UW-Madison 71-56 in a "secret scrimmage". Should be interesting to see if they report one for us. Hoping they do!

Would be an interesting measuring stick. Don't want to put too much stock into pre-season scrimmages but I have too many LUC friends giving me crap about our basketball program, so a scrimmage win against them would be ideal for me.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: TAMU Eagle on October 25, 2021, 04:07:49 PM
MU tweeted they practiced there during their team retreat.

As a thank you for not taking their coach?  ;D
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: forgetful on October 25, 2021, 05:39:42 PM
Did Marquette scrimmage Loyola?  It looks like some of this footage is at Loyola.

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1452732385427140612?s=20

Maybe MU will be the new Dunk City.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: fjm on October 25, 2021, 05:40:14 PM
Rothstein reported that Loyola beat the blocks off of UW-Madison 71-56 in a "secret scrimmage". Should be interesting to see if they report one for us. Hoping they do!

Would be an interesting measuring stick. Don't want to put too much stock into pre-season scrimmages but I have too many LUC friends giving me crap about our basketball program, so a scrimmage win against them would be ideal for me.

Yeah but UW didn’t have 3 of their best players. And it was Loyola’s Super Bowl sooooo….
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 25, 2021, 05:54:57 PM
Maybe MU will be the new Dunk City.

Well, Texas did have the highest share of 2 point shots being dunk attempts last year (17.1% of 2pt shot attempts), and had been in the top 15 the past 4 years:
https://barttorvik.com/teampbp.php?year=2021&conlimit=&sort=15

So, it's certainly a focus of Shaka's offensive scheme.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: brewcity77 on October 25, 2021, 06:27:57 PM
Yeah but UW didn’t have 3 of their best players. And it was Loyola’s Super Bowl sooooo….

Considering that in the last 3 NCAA tournaments, one program has 6 wins, a Final Four, and a Sweet 16, and the other program has one win period, I'd say it was the Super Bowl for Wisconsin, and they did their best Buffalo Bills impression.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: fjm on October 25, 2021, 08:22:46 PM
Considering that in the last 3 NCAA tournaments, one program has 6 wins, a Final Four, and a Sweet 16, and the other program has one win period, I'd say it was the Super Bowl for Wisconsin, and they did their best Buffalo Bills impression.

Hehe
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: StillAWarrior on October 26, 2021, 10:40:27 AM
Well, Texas did have the highest share of 2 point shots being dunk attempts last year (17.1% of 2pt shot attempts), and had been in the top 15 the past 4 years:
https://barttorvik.com/teampbp.php?year=2021&conlimit=&sort=15

So, it's certainly a focus of Shaka's offensive scheme.

Time to resurrect the Dunk-Meter?
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 26, 2021, 10:47:24 AM
Time to resurrect the Dunk-Meter?

I'd have to see if we still have the code around (that was spiral's specialty).  For those that weren't here...courtesy the wayback machine...
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: cheebs09 on October 26, 2021, 11:01:02 AM
I'd have to see if we still have the code around (that was spiral's specialty).  For those that weren't here...courtesy the wayback machine...

Was this retired the year we had Acker and Cubillan starting? I think that would have been a pretty lean year for the meter.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: PointWarrior on October 26, 2021, 11:18:03 AM

But we have been told around here this team wont be able to get any more than 25-29 dunks a game. 


Well, Texas did have the highest share of 2 point shots being dunk attempts last year (17.1% of 2pt shot attempts), and had been in the top 15 the past 4 years:
https://barttorvik.com/teampbp.php?year=2021&conlimit=&sort=15

So, it's certainly a focus of Shaka's offensive scheme.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Goose on October 26, 2021, 11:23:22 AM
Point

Pressure D and dunks is going to be a lot of fun to watch. I think this team is going surprise folks.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 26, 2021, 01:24:08 PM
Need a "Deflection Reflection" dashboard too.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 27, 2021, 01:09:59 PM
MU tweeted they practiced there during their team retreat.

MU just tweeted a video where it looks like they worked out at the Bulls practice center and spoke with Billy Donovan. 
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: UWW2MU on October 27, 2021, 02:16:29 PM
MU just tweeted a video where it looks like they worked out at the Bulls practice center and spoke with Billy Donovan.

Who was it that said they had their kids take a pic with Oso?   Because I think they're in that video.
Title: Re: Marquette/BC
Post by: MUDPT on October 27, 2021, 02:17:32 PM
Who was it that said they had their kids take a pic with Oso?   Because I think they're in that video.

It was me.  It was one of my friends, huge UW fan.  And that's them.