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Title: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: tower912 on March 15, 2024, 09:50:27 PM
1.  Oso and Kam back to playing like leaders.   Oso  still needs to dunk more instead of settling.
2.  MU made their first half run with Stevie on the bench and Zaide in the game.    And Zaide was crushing it.   Coach told them last night...
3.  Oduro is a thug.   I hope Hamilton is taking notes.   I want him to use his 6'9, 250 lbs to tick every other fanbase off.   I am glad he fouled out.
4.  Stevie and Kam both sitting at the 13 minute mark was not my favorite decision.   
5.  Oso running the point is why he is going to get drafted. 
6.  Two straight games that Stevie has gotten the crap beat out of him. 
7.  Fouling on 3's.   Seen that film before.    Didn't like the ending.   
8.  Carter worthy of every accolade.
9.  Providence mucked it up with their physicality and made MU uncomfortable.    It looked like MU might fold.   But....
10.  WE ARE...MARQUETTE.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: IL Warrior on March 15, 2024, 09:52:32 PM
I consistently cheer for our conference brethren in nonconference games and especially the postseason. This Providence team is an exception. I hope they get sent to the NIT.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: PointWarrior on March 15, 2024, 09:53:12 PM
Oduro is a thug, Carter also won worst hair in the Big East.

F'Providence, enjoy the NIT or maybe a play-in game if you're lucky.

Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 09:53:51 PM
Tower,

I have very little respect for that program.
Lots of thuggery, led by Oduro.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 15, 2024, 09:54:24 PM
Perhaps one of your best thread title ever, which is saying something.  Well done. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 15, 2024, 09:54:35 PM
Quote from: IL Warrior on March 15, 2024, 09:52:32 PM
I consistently cheer for our conference brethren in nonconference games and especially the postseason. This Providence team is an exception. I hope they get sent to the NIT.
They're an AAU goon team.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 15, 2024, 09:54:40 PM
Big admirer of Carter but Odouro needs to be relegated to the dust bin of obscurity
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 15, 2024, 09:54:44 PM
If they had Bryce they would be a hand full.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Herman Cain on March 15, 2024, 09:55:05 PM
Excellent win against a physical opponent. Proud of how our guys played through the tough style of play from The Friars
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: tower912 on March 15, 2024, 09:55:18 PM
Providence is physical.   I get the dislike.   
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 09:55:32 PM
Let me just say one more thing I hope Providence doesn't make the tournament and if they do I will not root for them. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 09:56:23 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 15, 2024, 09:55:18 PM
Providence is physical.   I get the dislike.   

There's a difference between being physical and what Oduro does out there.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 15, 2024, 09:56:41 PM
Yeah I don't think they're dirty. Just really physical. Can't blame them. That's was the way they had to get this far.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: tower912 on March 15, 2024, 09:56:48 PM
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 15, 2024, 09:55:05 PM
Excellent win against a physical opponent. Proud of how our guys played through the tough style of play from The Friars

No accolades for your English Patient?
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 15, 2024, 09:57:12 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 09:55:32 PM
Let me just say one more thing I hope Providence doesn't make the tournament and if they do I will not root for them. 

I'm sure they're crushed. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 15, 2024, 09:58:12 PM
-Providence has surpassed Seton Hall as my most hated Big East team.
-Really good minutes from Zaide - excited about what he is going to become
-What more needs to be said about Stevie's toughness that hasn't already been said?
-F*ck Oduro - dirty player
-Kam and Oso leading the way and some really nice contributions from Chase

Very proud of this team.  This should lock in a 2 seed combined with all the other results from the past couple of days.  No reason to play TKO tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 09:59:21 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 09:57:12 PM
I'm sure they're crushed.

Bunch of thugs. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: mileskishnish72 on March 15, 2024, 09:59:27 PM
Tower, you have outdone yourself with this thread title. Kudos!
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: mugrad_89 on March 15, 2024, 10:00:00 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 09:56:41 PM
Yeah I don't think they're dirty. Just really physical. Can't blame them. That's was the way they had to get this far.

Odoro is dirty.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 10:02:09 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 09:56:41 PM
Yeah I don't think they're dirty. Just really physical. Can't blame them. That's was the way they had to get this far.

Oduro is absolutely dirty.  Grab some eyeglasses Fluffy. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: PointWarrior on March 15, 2024, 10:02:42 PM
I wish SilverWarrior would post about their dirtiness on the Providence board again :)

Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on March 15, 2024, 10:02:48 PM
I cannot overstate how impressed I am by the performance of this team and coaching staff.

Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Mutaman on March 15, 2024, 10:03:01 PM
Chase did some really nice things in the last two minutes.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Daniel on March 15, 2024, 10:03:14 PM
Providence seems to foul with the intent to injure.  Can't stand them.  How many players did they injure this year?  I think a lot.  Thugs is right.   Not rooting for them anywhere they go.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 15, 2024, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 15, 2024, 10:00:00 PM
Odoro is dirty.

lol. No.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: nyg on March 15, 2024, 10:05:00 PM
I think Carter is just an excellent college player.  But, that three point shot from almost half court with seven seconds on the clock, down four, was bad.  That changed the complexion because shortly after that Oduro fouled out.  That lead to Kam driving and making an NBA layup shot to go up 6, then Ross was able to drive and make another incredible shot to go up 8.  Ballgame.

The highlight of the night was Ben Gold's free throw shot that totally missed the rim and hit the right side of the basket.  I have never seen that, have seen players coming up short, but not like that.  Had to rewind it to see if Gold sneezed or something when he shot it.  I will give him big credit because he drained the next one. 

I said it last week, even though he made two horrible passes leading to five PU points, if he keeps this up, Kam is going to rise big time on the mock drafts.  Nice win tonight.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 10:05:19 PM
Quote from: Mutaman on March 15, 2024, 10:03:01 PM
Chase did some really nice things in the last two minutes.

Huge.  If was Rabelain. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Dish on March 15, 2024, 10:06:37 PM
Great MU crowd again tonight. Other fan bases keep complimenting how well MU travels each year to MSG. Love it.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: NickelDimer on March 15, 2024, 10:06:44 PM
Like it or not, PC being PC is what makes the Big East the Big East.

Awesome win boys!!!
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Goose on March 15, 2024, 10:07:12 PM
Experience, depth and poise. This team was built for a run.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MUEng92 on March 15, 2024, 10:08:26 PM
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 15, 2024, 10:06:44 PM
Like it or not, PC being PC is what makes the Big East the Big East.

Awesome win boys!!!
I don't like it.  PC that is.  The win was great
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 15, 2024, 10:09:02 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 09:55:32 PM
Let me just say one more thing I hope Providence doesn't make the tournament and if they do I will not root for them.

Muggs with the DAGGER
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: PointWarrior on March 15, 2024, 10:09:22 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 10:03:18 PM
lol. No.

Oduro is dirty, and almost as ugly as Carter
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 15, 2024, 10:09:39 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 10:03:18 PM
lol. No.

LOL. Wrong.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 15, 2024, 10:09:48 PM
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 15, 2024, 10:09:22 PM
Oduro is dirty, and almost as ugly as Carter


No and be better.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: CountryRoads on March 15, 2024, 10:13:44 PM
Kam on not being all conference:

https://x.com/john_fanta/status/1768837677808329183?s=46
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: sodakmu87 on March 15, 2024, 10:16:00 PM
Tower is the King .....and Oduro :)
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 15, 2024, 10:16:31 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 15, 2024, 10:13:44 PM
Kam on not being all conference:

https://x.com/john_fanta/status/1768837677808329183?s=46

Outstanding.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: mug644 on March 15, 2024, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 09:56:23 PM
There's a difference between being physical and what Oduro does out there.

And where did Theo John fall on that spectrum of difference?

One fanbase's rock is another's thug.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Mu8891 on March 15, 2024, 10:18:02 PM
Oduro IS a thug...

BE not going to be happy with MU, as they sent both Nova and Prov to the
NIT.  lol

Kam = F ' em !!  Awesome.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 15, 2024, 10:18:44 PM
Quote from: mug644 on March 15, 2024, 10:16:46 PM
And where did Theo John fall on that spectrum of difference?

One fanbase's rock is another's thug.

I think the yank on Oso's arm is the perfect example of the difference between being physical and dirty.  Could have seriously hurt him on that play. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Judge Smails on March 15, 2024, 10:18:55 PM
Kam is an absolute stud. Seems to always come up with some much needed buckets at crunch time. A travesty he is not all conference. Going to have a good career in the League
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: denverMU on March 15, 2024, 10:19:01 PM
8.  Carter worthy of every accolade.

Can't disagree more. I can think of at least 10 BEAST better then him...hell the entire starting five of UCONN plus first man off the bench are better. Oso, Kam, and Tyler all better. At least 3 players on Creighton . Absolutely no way he is BE POY.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on March 15, 2024, 10:19:24 PM
Other than the hook and hold on Oso I actually thought Oduro played a pretty clean game compared to our previous matchups.  He rightfully go called for the big hit on Stevie, but that was pretty close/nothing egregious.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: CountryRoads on March 15, 2024, 10:19:42 PM
Providence would have been a problem with Hopkins this season.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: BLWarrior91 on March 15, 2024, 10:20:32 PM
Great win for MU.

English and Holloway are great young coaches in this league. 

There's no conference tourney that can touch the BET.  Playing at The Garden before a full house...tomorrow will be like a road game but The Garden is OUR House, not UConn's.

Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 15, 2024, 10:20:53 PM
Quote from: denverMU on March 15, 2024, 10:19:01 PM
8.  Carter worthy of every accolade.

Can't disagree more. I can think of at least 10 BEAST better then him...hell the entire starting five of UCONN plus first man off the bench are better. Oso, Kam, and Tyler all better. At least 3 players on Creighton . Absolutely no way he is BE POY.

I mean it was his third game in as many nights and his game is 95% hustle. He was very good tonight.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 15, 2024, 10:21:20 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 15, 2024, 09:54:44 PM
If they had Bryce they would be a hand full.

If we had TKO
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 15, 2024, 10:21:55 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 15, 2024, 10:19:24 PM
Other than the hook and hold on Oso I actually thought Oduro played a pretty clean game compared to our previous matchups.  He rightfully go called for the big hit on Stevie, but that was pretty close/nothing egregious.

And I think the hook and hold was more out of annoyance than a dirty play.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 10:22:26 PM
Quote from: mug644 on March 15, 2024, 10:16:46 PM
And where did Theo John fall on that spectrum of difference?

One fanbase's rock is another's thug.

I never defended Theo.  He did punkish things constantly and many of us called him out. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: wadesworld on March 15, 2024, 10:22:42 PM
My favorite thing about this is how we can be great defensively playing very different schemes one night apart. Last night we switched everything with the pick and pop threat of Dixon. Tonight we hedged and recovered with Oduro.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: jutaw22mu on March 15, 2024, 10:22:50 PM
Oduro is straight up dirty. Should have fouled out in the first half.

the Providence coach is fine...definitely do not hate camera cuts to him.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: CountryRoads on March 15, 2024, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 10:20:53 PM
I mean it was his third game in as many nights and his game is 95% hustle. He was very good tonight.

NBA scouts think he's a fringe lottery pick. I like watching him in general, but hate him when we are playing him.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 10:23:54 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 10:20:53 PM
I mean it was his third game in as many nights and his game is 95% hustle. He was very good tonight.
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I wouldn't define his game as "95% hustle".  Be better. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 10:24:56 PM
Quote from: jutaw22mu on March 15, 2024, 10:22:50 PM
Oduro is straight up dirty. Should have fouled out in the first half.

the Providence coach is fine...definitely do not hate camera cuts to him.

Apparently some people aren't watching him screening and off the ball. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on March 15, 2024, 10:25:13 PM
Quote from: jutaw22mu on March 15, 2024, 10:22:50 PM
Oduro is straight up dirty. Should have fouled out in the first half.

the Providence coach is fine...definitely do not hate camera cuts to him.
lol.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Shooter McGavin on March 15, 2024, 10:25:18 PM
Quote from: Mutaman on March 15, 2024, 10:03:01 PM
Chase did some really nice things in the last two minutes.

Loved his layup in traffic late.  His defense was stellar as always.  Just keep developing Chase!!
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 15, 2024, 10:26:09 PM
lol. Muggs the next time I take your basketball takes seriously will be the first.

He was initiating the offense, hitting shots, getting offensive rebounds, etc. A ton of effort last night as well.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 15, 2024, 10:27:14 PM
Quote from: nyg on March 15, 2024, 10:05:00 PM
The highlight of the night was Ben Gold's free throw shot that totally missed the rim and hit the right side of the basket.  I have never seen that, have seen players coming up short, but not like that.  Had to rewind it to see if Gold sneezed
I have seen Ross at least twice this year airball the first attempt and then calmly swish the 2nd.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on March 15, 2024, 10:28:15 PM
Kam was great....But....after the dust-up with Carter, Kam spent the next 5 out-of-sorts and Carter was on a mission. Kam eventually got it together and Carter ultimately did a couple of things to hurt his s team in his aggression....but in general, Carter won that mano-a-mano.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 15, 2024, 10:28:19 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 15, 2024, 10:25:18 PM
Loved his layup in traffic late.  His defense was stellar as always.  Just keep developing Chase!!

That should have been an and 1. Guy hammered him with body. Great, clutch play though.  Still love Chase's potential.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 10:28:54 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 10:26:09 PM
lol. Muggs the next time I take your basketball takes seriously will be the first.

He was initiating the offense, hitting shots, getting offensive rebounds, etc. A ton of effort last night as well.

He's a great player.  His game isn't 95% hustle.  This is just a fact Fluffy, he's a scorer. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: mug644 on March 15, 2024, 10:30:16 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 15, 2024, 10:22:57 PM
NBA scouts think he's a fringe lottery pick. I like watching him in general, but hate him when we are playing him.

Just to check, are you referring to Devin Carter? I don't follow NBA draft boards, but I'd be quite surprised if he is anticipated to be a fringe lottery pick. He might turn into a Jalen Brunson-type player, but I don't see it yet.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 15, 2024, 10:30:46 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 10:28:54 PM
He's a great player.  His game isn't 95% hustle.  This is just a fact Fluffy, he's a scorer. 

Oy. He works hard to score Muggs. He worked hard most of the night on both ends.

I'm done. No need to argue with someone who doesn't understand.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 15, 2024, 10:31:22 PM
How Kam sinks some of those drives I have no idea. The last one was stellar.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 15, 2024, 10:32:13 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 15, 2024, 10:31:22 PM
How Kam sinks some of those drives I have no idea. The last one was stellar.

Years and years of driving into bigs.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: mug644 on March 15, 2024, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on March 15, 2024, 10:28:15 PM
Kam was great....But....after the dust-up with Carter, Kam spent the next 5 out-of-sorts and Carter was on a mission. Kam eventually got it together and Carter ultimately did a couple of things to hurt his s team in his aggression....but in general, Carter won that mano-a-mano.

I agree. In an in-game text chat, some of us were commenting on the four/fivesome between Oso and Sam/Stevie v. Oduro and Carter. It got too intense for a few minutes, and felt like it was not going MU's way.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: nyg on March 15, 2024, 10:34:46 PM
Quote from: mug644 on March 15, 2024, 10:30:16 PM
Just to check, are you referring to Devin Carter? I don't follow NBA draft boards, but I'd be quite surprised if he is anticipated to be a fringe lottery pick. He might turn into a Jalen Brunson-type player, but I don't see it yet.

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

Here's one has Carter at #20

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2024-nba-mock-draft/

Here's another at #19
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 10:35:16 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 10:30:46 PM
Oy. He works hard to score Muggs. He worked hard most of the night on both ends.

I'm done. No need to argue with someone who doesn't understand.

He averages about 20 ppg.  He takes 7+ threes.  He works hard to score isn't an answer.  Yes, he's scrappy.  Excellent rebounder.  But your"95%" characterization is simply untrue. Everyone makes mistakes.  No worries. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 15, 2024, 10:37:22 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 10:35:16 PM
He averages about 20 ppg.  He takes 7+ threes.  He works hard to score isn't an answer.  Yes, he's scrappy.  Excellent rebounder.  But your"95%" characterization is simply untrue. Everyone makes mistakes.  No worries. 

Thanks for making my point for me. Was it intentional? Or did you mistakenly finally have a decent basketball thought?

I'm betting mistake.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 15, 2024, 10:40:34 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 10:22:26 PM
I never defended Theo.  He did punkish things constantly and many of us called him out.

actually Theo chilled after the first few games, but his reputation as a "bully" was already ingrained in the refs heads.  the dude was a brick chithouse!!  after a few talks, he became a gentle giant, but regardless, his aggressive play was assumed to be thuggish from his first few flexes
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Miss Katie’s on March 15, 2024, 10:40:55 PM
A+ thread title
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: wadesworld on March 15, 2024, 10:41:25 PM
https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1768829038867484861?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Sorry Johnny. Hope you get the AMP fired up next week.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 15, 2024, 10:41:55 PM
and, Theo wasn't an ugly man either.  I think they spanked oduro's ma when he came out
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 10:42:17 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 10:37:22 PM
Thanks for making my point for me. Was it intentional? Or did you mistakenly finally have a decent basketball thought?

I'm betting mistake.

Who's a 6'4 scorer that doesn't work hard to score?  I was just curious. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 15, 2024, 10:45:34 PM
Quote from: mug644 on March 15, 2024, 10:16:46 PM
And where did Theo John fall on that spectrum of difference?

One fanbase's rock is another's thug.

Before Theo went publicly political most folks here were honest about him as a player.

Afterwards, he was viewed in a much different light. He was suddenly a much better player whose game was hampered by refs who were out to get him.

Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: wadesworld on March 15, 2024, 10:48:34 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 15, 2024, 10:45:34 PM
Before Theo went publicly political most folks here were honest about him as a player.

Afterwards, he was viewed in a much different light. He was suddenly a much better player whose game was hampered by refs who were out to get him.

Lol!
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 15, 2024, 10:52:46 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 15, 2024, 10:45:34 PM
Before Theo went publicly political most folks here were honest about him as a player.

Afterwards, he was viewed in a much different light. He was suddenly a much better player whose game was hampered by refs who were out to get him.
Angry old hypocrite that complains that people inject politics injects politics for no particular reason other than being an angry old hypocrite.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 15, 2024, 10:54:54 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 15, 2024, 10:18:44 PM
I think the yank on Oso's arm is the perfect example of the difference between being physical and dirty.  Could have seriously hurt him on that play.

That illegal screen on Mitchell should have been reviewed. That rose to flagrant.  He was out to hurt him and nearly succeeded. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MU82 on March 15, 2024, 10:58:26 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 15, 2024, 10:45:34 PM
Before Theo went publicly political most folks here were honest about him as a player.

Afterwards, he was viewed in a much different light. He was suddenly a much better player whose game was hampered by refs who were out to get him.

Shaka's been "publicly political" at times, too.

Spoke out against police violence, encouraged Black athletes to use their voices in the wake of the George Floyd murder, etc.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 15, 2024, 11:06:31 PM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 15, 2024, 10:54:54 PM
That illegal screen on Mitchell should have been reviewed. That rose to flagrant.  He was out to hurt him and nearly succeeded.
He tried to hurt OSO in the first half and it ember him leveling Stevie then as well
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: DoctorV on March 15, 2024, 11:07:55 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 15, 2024, 10:58:26 PM
Shaka's been "publicly political" at times, too.

Spoke out against police violence, encouraged Black athletes to use their voices in the wake of the George Floyd murder, etc.

I've said before the one and only reason Shaka EVER leaves Marquette is that he doesn't believe the community sees eye to eye with what is right in his eyes, and right for humanity.

Hope I never see the day.

Or at the very least hope it's after a ship or two or in retirement
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MU82 on March 15, 2024, 11:09:33 PM
Oduro's hook and hold on Oso - a play on which Oso amazingly was called for the foul - would have been called a flagrant on Oduro had the refs bothered to review it. It's a very dangerous play, and it goes to intent to injure.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Shooter McGavin on March 15, 2024, 11:10:21 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 15, 2024, 10:45:34 PM
Before Theo went publicly political most folks here were honest about him as a player.

Afterwards, he was viewed in a much different light. He was suddenly a much better player whose game was hampered by refs who were out to get him.

Ha! Lenny I probably skew more your way politically but you are reading way too much into this. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: pbiflyer on March 15, 2024, 11:17:00 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 15, 2024, 10:13:44 PM
Kam on not being all conference:

https://x.com/john_fanta/status/1768837677808329183?s=46

Let's take a moment to honor the BEPOY that led his team to *checks notes* 7th place in an 11 team conference and likely a deep run in the NIT.! Quite the accomplishment...for Providence.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 15, 2024, 11:18:20 PM
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on March 15, 2024, 10:20:32 PM
Great win for MU.

English and Holloway are great young coaches in this league. 

Holloway is a year older than Shaka.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 15, 2024, 11:19:56 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 15, 2024, 10:52:46 PM
Angry old hypocrite that complains that people inject politics injects politics for no particular reason other than being an angry old hypocrite.

Someone asked how Theo (considered thuggish by other fan bases) was perceived by Marquette fans. I gave an honest answer. Sorry you didn't like it. You're the one who sounds (very) angry, not me. I'm very happy. Happy in general and happy because MU won. So happy that I'll let your infantile insults go. Have a nice night, Smitty!
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 15, 2024, 11:21:35 PM
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on March 15, 2024, 10:20:32 PM
Great win for MU.

English and Holloway are great young coaches in this league. 

There's no conference tourney that can touch the BET.  Playing at The Garden before a full house...tomorrow will be like a road game but The Garden is OUR House, not UConn's.

Tonight was very much a de facto road game.  Gus had to check himself when he almost said "listen to this Providence crowd".  Caught himself and said "Providence fanbase".
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: StillWarriors on March 15, 2024, 11:24:15 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 15, 2024, 11:09:33 PM
Oduro's hook and hold on Oso - a play on which Oso amazingly was called for the foul - would have been called a flagrant on Oduro had the refs bothered to review it. It's a very dangerous play, and it goes to intent to injure.

100% --that was far worse than the hook and hold they focused on a few years ago since he added a tug on Oso's arm. Very dirty. Given Oso's shoulder issue this year, we are extremely lucky that wasn't worse.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: mu_eyeballs on March 15, 2024, 11:25:45 PM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 15, 2024, 11:21:35 PM
Tonight was very much a de facto road game.  Gus had to check himself when he almost said "listen to this Providence crowd".  Caught himself and said "Providence fanbase".

Yet not a Q1 road win.  A Q2 "neutral" win.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 15, 2024, 11:30:15 PM
Quote from: mu_eyeballs on March 15, 2024, 11:25:45 PM
Yet not a Q1 road win.  A Q2 "neutral" win.

Yeah, oh well.  Don't need the resume boost. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Mutaman on March 15, 2024, 11:31:35 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 15, 2024, 10:45:34 PM
Before Theo went publicly political most folks here were honest about him as a player.

Afterwards, he was viewed in a much different light. He was suddenly a much better player whose game was hampered by refs who were out to get him.

Those woke bastards !
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: DoctorV on March 15, 2024, 11:32:18 PM
Quote from: mu_eyeballs on March 15, 2024, 11:25:45 PM
Yet not a Q1 road win.  A Q2 "neutral" win.

Who cares about the Q2 anymore?

This team locked a 2 seed, might be in play for the top 2 if that matters. 1 probably not in play but crazier things have happened with a fun tomorrow.

Anyway, let's just win a B2b. Why not? This team is capable, and able.

Raise that ship
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 15, 2024, 11:33:36 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 15, 2024, 10:25:18 PM
Loved his layup in traffic late.  His defense was stellar as always.  Just keep developing Chase!!

I loved that he looked to be a capable playmaker as well. Whether it be his crossover and blow by that dropped his defender, or the pumpfake, drive, and long to Oso for a slam...the more playmakers the better.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 15, 2024, 11:36:38 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 15, 2024, 11:17:00 PM
Let's take a moment to honor the BEPOY that led his team to *checks notes* 7th place in an 11 team conference and likely a deep run in the NIT.! Quite the accomplishment...for Providence.

Well said pbi!!
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Jockey on March 15, 2024, 11:42:19 PM
Quote from: denverMU on March 15, 2024, 10:19:01 PM
8.  Carter worthy of every accolade.

Can't disagree more. I can think of at least 10 BEAST better then him...hell the entire starting five of UCONN plus first man off the bench are better. Oso, Kam, and Tyler all better. At least 3 players on Creighton . Absolutely no way he is BE POY.

Nonsense.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 15, 2024, 11:48:39 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 15, 2024, 10:45:34 PM
Before Theo went publicly political most folks here were honest about him as a player.

Afterwards, he was viewed in a much different light. He was suddenly a much better player whose game was hampered by refs who were out to get him.

"Went publicly political".

Classic.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: PointWarrior on March 15, 2024, 11:57:50 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 10:21:55 PM
And I think the hook and hold was more out of annoyance than a dirty play.

Is there not a player you won't defend?
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: PointWarrior on March 16, 2024, 12:00:30 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 10:21:55 PM
And I think the hook and hold was more out of annoyance than a dirty play.

What about early in the game his extending his knee out to trip Ross who had to leave the game?
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 16, 2024, 12:24:17 AM
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 15, 2024, 11:57:50 PM
Is there not a player you won't defend?

Or ref.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Jay Bee on March 16, 2024, 12:35:30 AM
Oduro at his essence is a soft flower. They just occasionally do dirty/cheapshot things.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2024, 12:43:41 AM
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 16, 2024, 12:00:30 AM
What about early in the game his extending his knee out to trip Ross who had to leave the game?

Ty PointWarrior.  I had forgotten about that one. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 16, 2024, 06:32:27 AM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 15, 2024, 11:19:56 PM
Someone asked how Theo (considered thuggish by other fan bases) was perceived by Marquette fans. I gave an honest answer. Sorry you didn't like it. You're the one who sounds (very) angry, not me. I'm very happy. Happy in general and happy because MU won. So happy that I'll let your infantile insults go. Have a nice night, Smitty!

Your answer was wrong.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 16, 2024, 06:33:15 AM
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 16, 2024, 12:00:30 AM
What about early in the game his extending his knee out to trip Ross who had to leave the game?

He was setting a pick. Jeez it's like you guys have never watched basketball before.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: tower912 on March 16, 2024, 07:11:43 AM
The knee to knee with Chase was incidental.  Nobody is good enough to bang knees intentionally.   Other than that one, he is physical with intent.  Again, I hope Caedin was studying him.  A subset of scoop laments the lack of physicality by MU.  Hamilton rising to 90% of Oduro's physicality minus the cheap shots would be welcome.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on March 16, 2024, 07:12:41 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 16, 2024, 06:33:15 AM
He was setting a pick. Jeez it's like you guys have never watched basketball before.
The scoop's a little soft sometimes, you'll have to forgive them.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 16, 2024, 07:27:47 AM
Quote from: tower912 on March 16, 2024, 07:11:43 AM
The knee to knee with Chase was incidental.  Nobody is good enough to bang knees intentionally.   Other than that one, he is physical with intent.  Again, I hope Caedin was studying him.  A subset of scoop laments the lack of physicality by MU.  Hamilton rising to 90% of Oduro's physicality minus the cheap shots would be welcome.

More physical yes, but we don't need a goon. What I'd most like is Hamilton or Amadou or someone to give opponents something to think about when they attack the basket in the form of a blocked or altered shot.  That's so valuable. 

Amadou seems like the better candidate to maybe be that type of player with his energy, length, and bounce, but we'll see.

I'll worry about next year, next November   ;)
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on March 16, 2024, 07:35:31 AM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 16, 2024, 07:27:47 AM
More physical yes, but we don't need a goon. What I'd most like is Hamilton or Amadou or someone to give opponents something to think about when they attack the basket in the form of a blocked or altered shot.  That's so valuable. 
This would be big time!
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: We R Final Four on March 16, 2024, 07:43:08 AM
Quote from: tower912 on March 16, 2024, 07:11:43 AM
The knee to knee with Chase was incidental.  Nobody is good enough to bang knees intentionally.   Other than that one, he is physical with intent.  Again, I hope Caedin was studying him.  A subset of scoop laments the lack of physicality by MU.  Hamilton rising to 90% of Oduro's physicality minus the cheap shots would be welcome.
Don't say cheap shots around Sultan....he will defend PC til the death.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: tower912 on March 16, 2024, 07:53:55 AM
Sultan bound by logic and being contrary  to amuse himself?  Shut the front door.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: We R Final Four on March 16, 2024, 07:56:41 AM
Providence isn't dirty and the refs were very good.....always.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: NCMUFan on March 16, 2024, 08:02:31 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/recap?gameId=401625564
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 16, 2024, 08:07:23 AM
Quote"These games are really hard to officiate, I would imagine, because there's a whole lot of jostling for position, if you will," Smart said.


Quote from: NCMUFan on March 16, 2024, 08:02:31 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/recap?gameId=401625564
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 16, 2024, 08:38:30 AM
Quote from: We R Final Four on March 16, 2024, 07:56:41 AM
Providence isn't dirty and the refs were very good.....always.

Providence definitely aren't dirty.

But the refs, as always, were bad.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Lens on March 16, 2024, 09:04:51 AM
Lenny's not wrong.

When Theo took the brave, correct and Jesuit informed route more fans did over look his somewhat pedestrian play because they were inspired by his Al McGuire like social justice stance. 

Theo became a warrior the day he stood up for what was right. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 16, 2024, 09:10:13 AM
Quote from: The Lens on March 16, 2024, 09:04:51 AM
Lenny's not wrong.

When Theo took the brave, correct and Jesuit informed route more fans did over look his somewhat pedestrian play because they were inspired by his Al McGuire like social justice stance. 

Theo became a warrior the day he stood up for what was right.

Thank you, Lens. Hope this clears things up for the very angry Smitty and the very wrong Sultan.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 16, 2024, 09:11:48 AM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 16, 2024, 09:10:13 AM
Thank you, Lens. Hope this clears things up for the very angry Smitty and the very wrong Sultan.

Nope. You were wrong. Nobody said the refs were out to get him.

Nice spin though.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 16, 2024, 10:38:03 AM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 15, 2024, 11:19:56 PM
Someone asked how Theo (considered thuggish by other fan bases) was perceived by Marquette fans. I gave an honest answer. Sorry you didn't like it. You're the one who sounds (very) angry, not me. I'm very happy. Happy in general and happy because MU won. So happy that I'll let your infantile insults go. Have a nice night, Smitty!
"See guys? I was just being honest! Not at all a hypocrite. Good night!"
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2024, 10:42:35 AM
Quote from: We R Final Four on March 16, 2024, 07:56:41 AM
Providence isn't dirty and the refs were very good.....always.

Lol.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: MUfan12 on March 16, 2024, 10:48:43 AM
I don't know if they're a dirty team but there were sure as crap some dangerous plays last night. None more than the guy diving at Chase's knees in the second half.

Oduro's move when Oso got tangled up with him should have been reviewed by rule.

The problem is the refs don't establish any control early. It becomes a free for all and then they try to rein it back in later. Doesn't work.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Markusquette on March 16, 2024, 10:58:52 AM
I wasn't able to catch the game. What was the issue with Oduro?
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: tower912 on March 16, 2024, 10:59:58 AM
Arms locked up. Oduro then yanked Oso's arm in order to free his own
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on March 16, 2024, 11:22:31 AM
I think there is a difference between dirty and playing right to the edge of physicality and, well, edge. I think the arm wrench by Oduro should have been reviewed and dealt with. But, a hard screen, an elbow to the chest, nah, not dirty. So many people say they want a bruiser, an enforcer, is that dirty?

The shot Stevie took to the head on Thursday, I think that was dirty. Stevie is a gnat, an absolute pain in the ass, he's getting laid out a few times for it. That's closer to dirty, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 16, 2024, 11:24:39 AM
I just love that everyone on our team appreciates what Fri and sat night in the Garden means—but isn't intimidated by it at this point.  Huge breakthrough and advantage for the program. 
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: PointWarrior on March 16, 2024, 11:26:49 AM
So Oduro makes the all-time Big East  thug team.  I would also put Devendorf on it as well. 

Who else makes the team?

Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: LON on March 16, 2024, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 16, 2024, 11:26:49 AM
So Oduro makes the all-time Big East  thug team.  I would also put Devendorf on it as well. 

Who else makes the team?

Jamar Nutter
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2024, 12:17:23 PM
Jonathan Xavier
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Zog from Margo on March 16, 2024, 02:00:54 PM
https://twitter.com/Jan_Koller15/status/1768810624782393582
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Shaka Shart on March 16, 2024, 04:12:13 PM
Quote from: Zog from Margo on March 16, 2024, 02:00:54 PM
https://twitter.com/Jan_Koller15/status/1768810624782393582

"Hustle play"
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2024, 04:12:43 PM
Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on March 16, 2024, 04:12:13 PM
"Hustle play"

Sultan thinks that's a clean play and foul on Marquette
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: PointWarrior on March 16, 2024, 04:18:20 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2024, 04:12:43 PM
Sultan thinks that's a clean play and foul on Marquette


Sultan also thinks that should increase his NIL by 2x


Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 16, 2024, 04:20:42 PM
Increasing my NIL by two would result in the same NIL I have now.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 16, 2024, 04:24:04 PM
Saw the Stevie screen at MSG (though admittedly from the cheap seats). Replayed on a large screen10-15 feet in front of me. Oduro took a solid screen position, properly squared up. As Stevie came around, Our drops his left shoulder back and then throws it forward, laying Stevie out. That was the dirty part. A foul properly called. Doubt it rose to level of an F1.
Title: Re: Stench: A foul Oduro
Post by: The Sultan on March 16, 2024, 04:26:13 PM
So we have gotten to the point that a foul is considered "dirty" but not flagrant?

::)
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