Starting early because I couldn't get the pun out of my head.
Maximize your potential!
Why is game on campus?
Quote from: 88Warrior on January 30, 2024, 07:05:17 AM
Why is game on campus?
Because that's where their stadium is? Villanova plays most of their home games on campus. Especially weekday games
Here's hoping both teams have fun tonight. What a great opportunity to compete and learn valuable life skills in an athletic competition.
LFG!!! Own the paint and mercilessly attack from every conceivable angle on both ends of the floor.
LFG!!
Most important game of the season
What is Kam's status?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 30, 2024, 07:52:24 AM
Most important game of the season
Vital Dr.B.
Nova is favored? Play with a chip on our shoulders and unrelenting fury from minute one.
Quote from: 88Warrior on January 30, 2024, 07:05:17 AM
Why is game on campus?
The Wells Fargo Center is 15 miles away from campus taking the shortest route. It makes Wintrust seem convenient for DePaul students.
It's great how Fiserv is only a mile from MU's campus.
Dr. B
This is a big one. Win tonight and it builds on the momentum over past few games. Cautiously optimistic.
Have beaten them four in a row and last two there, they will be ready for the Warriors.
Quote from: Goose on January 30, 2024, 07:56:00 AM
Dr. B
This is a big one. Win tonight and it builds on the momentum over past few games. Cautiously optimistic.
Have beaten them four in a row and last two there, they will be ready for the Warriors.
Actually Shaka is 5-0 versus Nova. This is a tipping point game with all MU injuries.
OT but have there been any updates on Ross's return?
Quote from: Goose on January 30, 2024, 07:56:00 AM
Dr. B
This is a big one. Win tonight and it builds on the momentum over past few games. Cautiously optimistic.
Have beaten them four in a row and last two there, they will be ready for the Warriors.
Really since we lost to Butler they're all big ones if we want to repeat - get to 4 conf losses to teams not named UCONN (including @CU) and we'll likely have to beat them twice to get a title (as well as getting some help). Upshot is, Torvik has this as our toughest game remaining outside those 3 - win tonight and we're sitting in decent shape.
Tonight will be a battle. Villain-nova is desperate for a win, and they are home a and favored. Need to show them that them being favored was a mistake. Chip on shoulder? Check
No Prize picks up currently. Waiting on Kam news??
Quote from: NickelDimer on January 30, 2024, 08:14:31 AM
OT but have there been any updates on Ross's return?
Per Ben Steele - Kam Jones is working around the clock to have his ankle ready. Chase Ross is day-to-day, not cleared for full contact but is doing shooting drills.
Quote from: 88Warrior on January 30, 2024, 07:05:17 AM
Why is game on campus?
I don't know that MU has ever played them at WF- definitely not since 2014-15 season.
Anyone else going to be at The Finn tonight, and at Gallery Place Saturday?
Gonna be a challenging game playing a desperate Nova team with possibly 3 of our top 8 out. I think this will be where the team's championship mettle comes out.
This team has played a lot of big games together and have delivered more times than not. Experience and having been to battle together were two of the big reasons for my optimism going into the season. It will be tested tonight.
If the 3s keep fallin, MU will be ballin
JayBee
I agree with that and going to be theme until there are no more games to be played. If the final game of this year ends in a loss, I think we all can make a pretty guess on what the cause of the loss was.
If the twines are tickled, Nova will be pickled.
Quote from: Goose on January 30, 2024, 09:34:50 AM
JayBee
I agree with that and going to be theme until there are no more games to be played. If the final game of this year ends in a loss, I think we all can make a pretty guess on what the cause of the loss was.
Wojo.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 30, 2024, 09:29:31 AM
If the 3s keep fallin, MU will be ballin
No layup line redux?
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 07:38:08 AM
LFG!!! Own the paint and mercilessly attack from every conceivable angle on both ends of the floor.
I can conceive a lot of angles. Some of them, frankly, would not be recommended angles of attack in basketball.
Being a 1.5 underdog screams no Kam. Would we really be a dog with him available?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 30, 2024, 09:43:01 AM
No layup line redux?
Part of me thinks there's no way they allow that again, but then again they kept on doing it throughout last game.
Hitting 75% on 2's seems nearly impossible, but hopefully Nova continues to be dumb and we are in the 60%s
With only 8 players dressed tonight we will have to play everyone. Gonna have to run more Oso with Gold lineups to get Amadou some run
Quote from: Cream Biggums on January 30, 2024, 10:06:14 AM
With only 8 players dressed tonight we will have to play everyone.
Is this in a press release or just assumed?
Biggums is just making stuff up
I don't possess his fashion sense, but Kam and I are pretty much the same as athletes.. he's a little better scoring around the rim, whereas I'm a bit better long range.
Anyway, going through injury stuff just like him. Played pickleball yesterday and had a good session, but the intercostal muscle strain is back and causing me pain. Nonetheless, will get in a quick session over lunch, and then tonight I have my league (at the same time as the MU game - fml!!)
For me, even if I aggravate things in the practice session, I'm still 100% planning on being a go tonight. I will scream and shed tears on the court over walking off and saying, "I can't do it". Of course, Kam has teammates that can pick him up, so I hope he sits out if it's bad. But me.. I'll be a go tonight. #Warriors
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 30, 2024, 10:19:11 AM
whereas I'm a bit better long range.
Anyway, going through injury stuff just like him. Played pickleball yesterday and had a good session, but the intercostal muscle strain is back and causing me pain. Nonetheless, will get in a quick session over lunch, and then tonight I have my league (at the same time as the MU game - fml!!)
For me, even if I aggravate things in the practice session, I'm still 100% planning on being a go tonight. I will scream and shed tears on the court over walking off and saying, "I can't do it". Of course, Kam has teammates that can pick him up, so I hope he sits out if it's bad. But me.. I'll be a go tonight. #Warriors
You've gotta work on your close up dink game, long range is for people rated in the 3s, get up to the 4s and it's about those short attacking angles.
Villain-ova? Are we playing the women's team tonight?
No doubt! Long range was referring to my bball 3 point bombs.
I'm improving a ton at the kitchen line. Work The Angles like Dilated.
I'm not good, but improving quickly. I'd say I'm in the ballpark of 3.6-3.7. Would like to be at 4.0-4.2 by mid-summer
Here's hoping Neptune hasn't changed his defensive game plan
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 30, 2024, 10:23:28 AM
You've gotta work on your close up dink game, long range is for people rated in the 3s, get up to the 4s and it's about those short attacking angles.
He has quite a dink game
Quote from: Judge Smails on January 30, 2024, 10:46:43 AM
Here's hoping Neptune hasn't changed his defensive game plan
This is close to my thinking. Reminds me of Wojo's coaching being the weak link in our '18-'19 team. Nova has talent and experience on the plus side, but Neptune's coaching has often been on the negative side.
Edit: I am referring mostly to the season-ending MU slide. Neptune seems to have a similar approach- double down even when a tactic is not working.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 30, 2024, 10:40:00 AM
Villain-ova? Are we playing the women's team tonight?
I hope MU does lay an evil egg.
Chips on their shoulders, chips are down, things will get chippy; sounds like our kind of game!
I bet Cam plays and provides rain from above and slash at the rim.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 30, 2024, 07:29:02 AM
Here's hoping both teams have fun tonight. What a great opportunity to compete and learn valuable life skills in an athletic competition.
Forgive me unk for I have sinned
I am surprised Panda hasn't started the SOTG thread.
Also, please don't.
Quote from: DoggyDaddy on January 30, 2024, 11:31:40 AM
I bet Cam plays and provides rain from above and slash at the rim.
Dude has three points total for his career. I wouldn't expect too much.
Quote from: warriorchick on January 30, 2024, 11:36:59 AM
I am surprised Panda hasn't started the SOTG thread.
Also, please don't.
That's because 82 beat him to it:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=65638.0
i believe amadou gonna do!! time for him to shine! go forth big dog and just do it!!
Quote from: Judge Smails on January 30, 2024, 10:46:43 AM
Here's hoping Neptune hasn't changed his defensive game plan
The locals don't call him i-neptune for his ability to come up with a gameplan.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 30, 2024, 12:09:50 PM
Dude has three points total for his career. I wouldn't expect too much.
Career 25% 3-point shooter. It's a big ask.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 30, 2024, 09:59:56 AM
Being a 1.5 underdog screams no Kam.
Had the same thought. We were awfully lucky with the injuries last year. Not so much this one.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 30, 2024, 12:28:18 PM
i believe amadou gonna do!! time for him to shine! go forth big dog and just do it!!
Agreed. Al's logged all of 4 Big East minutes. But tonight, he's our difference maker.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 30, 2024, 09:59:56 AM
Being a 1.5 underdog screams no Kam. Would we really be a dog with him available?
No it doesn't. We're on the road against a Q1 opponent. I'd expect it to be pretty much a pick em.
We were just 1.5 point dogs at St. John's with a healthy Kam, and the computer numbers for St. John's and Nova are very similar.
Kolek always seems to have very big games in road games such as these.
Hes going off tonight.
Quote from: #UnleashSean on January 30, 2024, 01:41:39 PM
Kolek always seems to have very big games in road games such as these.
Hes going off tonight.
Kam partook in Shoot Around. Hopefully he is able to give like 15+ minutes of quality ball tonight. Stevie had a 19 point effort in his homecoming last year. Hopefully he can continue to put pressure on the opponent on both ends!
Quote from: Judge Smails on January 30, 2024, 10:46:43 AM
Here's hoping Neptune hasn't changed his defensive game plan
I'd be willing to bet that Neptune goes full out protect the paint and pack it in tonight, maybe comes out in a zone.
Just in time for Marquette to nail some early 3s and send him spinning, then he surely won't know how to react.
I'd imagine he will do tonight what he should've done on the road and it'll likely bite him.
Here's to hoping Marquette hands him another loss.
Quote from: DoctorV on January 30, 2024, 02:05:03 PM
I'd be willing to bet that Neptune goes full out protect the paint and pack it in tonight, maybe comes out in a zone.
Just in time for Marquette to nail some early 3s and send him spinning, then he surely won't know how to react.
I'd imagine he will do tonight what he should've done on the road and it'll likely bite him.
Here's to hoping Marquette hands him another loss.
Ben finding his 3-ball has come at the right time. Hopefully he can keep it going tonight.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 30, 2024, 02:03:09 PM
Kam partook in Shoot Around. Hopefully he is able to give like 15+ minutes of quality ball tonight. Stevie had a 19 point effort in his homecoming last year. Hopefully he can continue to put pressure on the opponent on both ends!
Kam's either playing or he's not. You don't come back on a minutes restriction off a sprained ankle.
Two big questions for me coming into this game:
1. Will Neptune learn anything from the game two weeks ago and realize that allowing 60 points in the paint is a losing formula. We should be able to tell early if Nova is going to force MU to show that they can hit more than 25% of their threes before allowing the number of layups they did in the first meeting.
2. Will Kam Jones play? If he can't I think MU is in big trouble. Remember that he was one of the biggest beneficiaries of Nova's defense in the first game with his array of drives and spinning layups. Norman and Lowery can't replace those. Kam is also one of the biggest potential 3 point threats.
There is also the depth issue. I wouldn't be surprised to see Nova try to post Dixon to try to take advantage of his strength and possibly get Oso in foul trouble. They can also try to post up some of their bigger guards
Hopefully Nova can't repeat the way they shot threes in the first half of the first game. But fatigue and foul trouble might make it harder to employ a tight defense on the perimeter.
This is going to be a tough one to win.
Quote from: wisblue on January 30, 2024, 02:59:08 PM
Two big questions for me coming into this game:
1. Will Neptune learn anything from the game two weeks ago and realize that allowing 60 points in the paint is a losing formula. We should be able to tell early if Nova is going to force MU to show that they can hit more than 25% of their threes before allowing the number of layups they did in the first meeting.
2. Will Kam Jones play? If he can't I think MU is in big trouble. Remember that he was one of the biggest beneficiaries of Nova's defense in the first game with his array of drives and spinning layups. Norman and Lowery can't replace those. Kam is also one of the biggest potential 3 point threats.
There is also the depth issue. I wouldn't be surprised to see Nova try to post Dixon to try to take advantage of his strength and possibly get Oso in foul trouble. They can also try to post up some of their bigger guards
Hopefully Nova can't repeat the way they shot threes in the first half of the first game. But fatigue and foul trouble might make it harder to employ a tight defense on the perimeter.
This is going to be a tough one to win.
I agree with all these points; if Kam can't go, I expect to see Gold on Dixon and Oso out on perimeter. If Kam does not play and we get a Gold performance like Seton Hall, we can definitely win.
Since I will not be able to go to tonight's game at Villanova, I have two tickets (Section 215 Row 7) and parking (Lot 2) for sale. Please text me at 201-350-1228 if interested.
I don't foresee Gold replicating 3-5 from 3 on the road. I had this one as an L at the start of the season. Acceptable loss...this one, at Creighton and at UConn. We'll win the rest for a solid 14-6 BE record.
Quote from: Viper on January 30, 2024, 04:14:48 PM
I don't foresee Gold replicating 3-5 from 3 on the road. I had this one as an L at the start of the season. Acceptable loss...this one, at Creighton and at UConn. We'll win the rest for a solid 14-6 BE record.
You know one scooper will bark
"unacceptable! inexcusable!" if we lose. I'm not sure why, but I think we win this one. I'm counting on Neptune to help us do it.
We got this. Book it. Newsie, bet the farm.
Inept-une, LOL
Quote from: Viper on January 30, 2024, 04:14:48 PM
I don't foresee Gold replicating 3-5 from 3 on the road. I had this one as an L at the start of the season. Acceptable loss...this one, at Creighton and at UConn. We'll win the rest for a solid 14-6 BE record.
Wasn't he also 3-5 @ DePaul?
He has back to back 3 made 3FG games.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 30, 2024, 04:47:42 PM
No
3 for whatever. Either way. Still 3 made 3s in each of the past 2 games.
I recall that earlier this year Tyler sprained his ankle a played in the next game. I have high hopes for Kam as well.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 30, 2024, 04:21:16 PM
You know one scooper will bark "unacceptable! inexcusable!" if we lose. I'm not sure why, but I think we win this one. I'm counting on Neptune to help us do it.
That scooper is 1000% correct.
Muggsy
This is a game that a team with three years in the making finds a way to win. LFG!!!
Quote from: Goose on January 30, 2024, 05:19:05 PM
Muggsy
This is a game that a team with three years in the making finds a way to win. LFG!!!
Damn straight Goose.
Take care of business and drop the hammer. Period.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 05:16:06 PM
That scooper is 1000% correct.
No, that scooper would be wrong
TKO and Oso need to play like stars tonight.
Looks like Chase might be back according to MU IG, though.
I don't ever remember seeing a guy playing a competitive basketball game with a shoulder brace like that.
A first for everything.
Marquette Instagram just revealed Gold is getting the start
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 30, 2024, 05:45:23 PM
I don't ever remember seeing a guy playing a competitive basketball game with a shoulder brace like that.
Luke Fischer
https://onmilwaukee.com/images/articles/lu/lukefischergoldeneagles/lukefischergoldeneagles_fullsize_story1.jpg
Well, I did say I didn't remember. I should probably mention my memory is terrible
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 30, 2024, 05:59:34 PM
Well, I did say I didn't remember. I should probably mention my memory is terrible
To be fair I don't recall seeing a guard or forward play with one.
No Kam. Chase available.
Interesting to see Gold with the start. Plus we have our good luck announcer Jason Bennetti.
No, Stevie didn't look like Oso
Gift
jop..pass the damn ball
Chase is in
Love this start.
Focus at the FT line! LFG!!!!
Great start! Cross courts passes are not our friends
They looked pretty damn sharp in the first round.
No need for the spectacular zip cross-court pass there. ATTACK!!
Hell of a start
That was a really dumb pass by Oso tho. Got Armstrong on ya.
D looks fantastic.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 30, 2024, 06:09:27 PM
Hell of a start
That was a really dumb pass by Oso tho. Got Armstrong on ya.
D looks fantastic.
Exactly right. Take your time and go to the rim with force.
BAM!!
Wow
Stay tenacious!!!!!
Hell yeah, boys.
Tyler came to play tonite.
Decent start
Who's posting the SOTG thread
Who was Kolek barking at after the layup
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 30, 2024, 06:14:27 PM
Who was Kolek barking at after the layup
Probably a fan who said something on the previous layup
Gold's three was more than 1/3 of the way in the hoop so he should get 1 point
TYKO!!!
Tyler is in the building
Good Kolek is in the building. Nice to see you again
Fantastic start on both ends of the floor.
Damn we came out to play tonight! Good seeing Chase back out there
Acceptable first 9-10 minutes.
Ben needs to dunk that.
Gotta keep the intensity up, let's pull away here.
Tyler with a great look to Gold inside but he hesitated- gotta go up strong.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 06:19:59 PM
Gotta keep the intensity up, let's pull away here.
Yep.
40 mins of fury.
The defense has been outstanding.
That Bamba 3 is as lucky as hell.
Great D. Hesitates and swishes.
Keep up the pressure!
Benny has to be ready for TK dimes
Excellent D.
Wow
Chase just needed a shoulder injury to get the shot going. :D
Damn - looks like Chase just needed to separate his shoulder to get his three point shot back.
Bogus foul on Tre.
Such an obvious reach
He was also fouled there. Hopefully he's alright.
Kicked in the head. Ugh
Tre gotta slow down and know the guy is coming from behind
Hope he's ok tho
Ran up behind him and reached across his body and no call. Pretty ridiculous
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 30, 2024, 06:26:05 PM
Kicked in the head. Ugh
Ugh. Def could be a concussion.
Dung alert
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 30, 2024, 06:26:39 PM
Tre gotta slow down and know the guy is coming from behind
Hope he's ok tho
True, but he was still fouled.
Absolute clinic so far.
You could hear a pin drop in there right now.
What a beautiful crossover and finish by Tyko.
Dixon has walked on three occasions btw.
Everything is working. No need to take an early shot. Just keep passing and the shot appears
No letdown as rotations change
We are playing championship level defense. Best since the Kansas game earlier this season. And Chase Ross steps in after injury layoff and looks as comfortable/best he has all season.
LOL
This is amazing. Keep it up guys!
Both Gold and Joplin's 3 pt misses have been in and out.
All this and two threes that were 2/3 of the way down.
BENNY!!!
I'll have whatever these guys had for breakfast.
Damb. Was Oso undercut there?
Oso had it tied up for 3 seconds and the ref was only looking at the freshman standing behind waiting to call the foul
lol ok ref
Come on, ref.
Scary good so far.
How is that not a foul on Kolek
Nova's only defense is fouls that aren't getting called.
Clear foul with that bump on Tyko. Finish the half strong. Two bogus calls against us
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 30, 2024, 06:39:15 PM
Nova's only defense is fouls that aren't getting called.
100% correct and 1000% inexcusable.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 06:39:25 PM
Clear foul with that bump on Tyko. Finish the half strong. Two bogus calls against us
That was a bad no call.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 06:39:04 PM
How is that not a foul on Kolek
You see, Kolek is on such a different level tonight he can change directions in mid air without help from the defender...apparently
That's as clear of a blocking foul as can be.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 06:39:04 PM
How is that not a foul on Kolek
Total garbage and very upsetting. Gotta forget about it.
He might get more calls if complained less
Quote from: NickelDimer on January 30, 2024, 06:26:53 PM
Ran up behind him and reached across his body and no call. Pretty ridiculous
Yeah, it was a tackle. And the refs are ignoring obvious fouls by nova
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 30, 2024, 06:40:13 PM
That was a bad no call.
Send it to the league office along with about 20 other instances of teams bodying the hell out of the returning BEPOY. It's crazy..best players usually get benefit of the doubt on calls. Kolek? Just the opposite.
Refocus.
Absolutely disgusting no call on the Kolek drive.
He never gets calls
Now nova has a little run going
Put the pedal down... let's Go Marquette!
Very key 3 min here.
Quote from: Judge Smails on January 30, 2024, 06:41:22 PM
He might get more calls if complained less
Judge, that one was absurd.
Was Shaka even in that huddle? I only saw Kolek yelling at everyone
Keep your head, Tyler
Why did Gold rush that last 3? Not set side fade.
Bad shot there by Jop. Focus!
This is less fun
How many times they gonna let Dixon move his pivot foot?
Missing bunnies now
Nothing dropping anymore
Joplin and Gold both taking outrageous 3s letting Nova back in game. Team caving right now.
My how the tables have turned, let's get an easy one here
Push prayers from 6'
Needed that one.
Woof
It's a game now
Well this going to the wire. Damn
Sweet Jesus. Lost pur composure and Oso forced a bit.
Let's miss more bunnies!
Nova got away with a lot of crap in the last four minutes.
Excellent opening ten, took the foot off the gas. Still a good result at the half, come out strong
From dominating to allowing..... need to toughen it up in half two ....
Well, we didn't foul the 3 point shooter so there's that
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 06:49:41 PM
Sweet Jesus. Lost pur composure and Oso forced a bit.
I think it was more Nova stopped sleep walking
What a huge fold last 4 minutes. Iggy vrapping late.
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 30, 2024, 06:50:04 PM
Well, we didn't foul the 3 point shooter so there's that
A win!
A bit of a run was expected from them but we failed to execute offensively.
What a huge fold last 4 minutes. Iggy crapping late.
That was a horrific end to the half.
Missed bunnies mostly cause they were rushed. TK throwing lobs into 4 guys. Oso rushing drives.
Gotta recompose. Mark Armstrong only hits big shots vs us.
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 30, 2024, 06:50:04 PM
Well, we didn't foul the 3 point shooter so there's that
it was good D from Stevie. Guy just made a good shot. Need to wrestle the momentum back first 4 minutes in the second half
We've been good to start the second half all year. Saved by the bell there. Time to refocus.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 30, 2024, 06:49:54 PM
Nova got away with a lot of crap in the last four minutes.
I agree with this analysis. Dixon has been a walking machine down low and they've not called him for one travel. Meanwhile the beat the hell out of Kolek and nothing.
There is a chance we still lose this game but wow did we look so much different with Chase back.
Ugly finish though.
Biggest issue we have like every game is not giving up an ineveitable run
Its that they are almost always a result of every player completely losing it at the same time. Its never 1 or 2 guys. Just all 5 guys on the court forget basketball for 4 minute stretches.
Shakas time to shine here at the half.
Muggsy got it. If we hit our shots we still would be dominating. But we were hitting a ridiculous percentage. Let's hit that again in second half. Goo Marquette! Let's win this one, tough D, get the open shots.....
TERRIBLE finish to the half
It would be nice if Shaka got on the damn refs about the way TKO gets hammered and fouled
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 30, 2024, 06:51:18 PM
That was a horrific end to the half.
Missed bunnies mostly cause they were rushed. TK throwing lobs into 4 guys. Oso rushing drives.
Gotta recompose. Mark Armstrong only hits big shots vs us.
Pretty frustrating. Refocus and get back to playing elite hoops. The good news is no foul trouble. There is 0.0 reason to force anything. Move the rock and attack.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 30, 2024, 06:47:45 PM
Joplin and Gold both taking outrageous 3s letting Nova back in game. Team caving right now.
lol
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 30, 2024, 06:52:42 PM
Biggest issue we have like every game is not giving up an ineveitable run
Its that they are almost always a result of every player completely losing it at the same time. Its never 1 or 2 guys. Just all 5 guys on the court forget basketball for 4 minute stretches.
Shakas time to shine here at the half.
that's just basketball - always a game of runs. Need to stomp on them again at the beginning of the second half
Quote from: Judge Smails on January 30, 2024, 06:51:51 PM
it was good D from Stevie. Guy just made a good shot. Need to wrestle the momentum back first 4 minutes in the second half
Yep first 4-5 minutes ... Got to win it by at least 4...if vice versa, we are in trouble! But I'll hope for the best not worst 🙏
Kam needs to pop a couple oxies and get out there
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 06:50:52 PM
A bit of a run was expected from them but we failed to execute offensively.
Yep
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 30, 2024, 06:52:42 PM
Biggest issue we have like every game is not giving up an ineveitable run
Its that they are almost always a result of every player completely losing it at the same time. Its never 1 or 2 guys. Just all 5 guys on the court forget basketball for 4 minute stretches.
Shakas time to shine here at the half.
Marquette is one of the best in America at not allowing a run.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 30, 2024, 06:49:54 PM
Nova got away with a lot of crap in the last four minutes.
Yeah, those refs again....
Gold and Joplin missed threes and two Oso bunnies. MU was hot, but those hurt, just didn't go.
Armstrong torching Stevie, who may some clutch shots. Up 20 with five left in half, ugh. Can't lose a game up 20 at end of half, right....Believe Nova gets ball to start. Still happy up eight.
Quote from: Johnny B on January 30, 2024, 06:55:34 PM
Kam needs to pop a couple oxies and get out there
I will say he's been they guy at times when everyone else goes on tilt. But we can do it without him...we proved it.
Great half overall. The bell came at the right time.
Focus of what we did well first 12 minutes or so of first half. Get the ball inside, work for open shot and get relentless on D. Take no survivors. Let's Go Marquette!
Quote from: Johnny B on January 30, 2024, 06:55:34 PM
Kam needs to pop a couple oxies and get out there
I'm sure one of the dentists on here will gladly prescribe them
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 30, 2024, 06:49:54 PM
Nova got away with a lot of crap in the last four minutes.
And they'll get away with even more in the 2nd half. That's life on the road.
Gotta be better.
Villanova finally made the defensive adjustment.
Jesus they just wont miss now.
Wow (in a bad way)
Wow. That was the longest 1st half I've ever seen. Had such a dominant start, scoring at will, and playing outstanding defense. I thought MU would run them out of the gym and get on the plane. Oh, boy. It's will require even more effort. I saw Wes Matthews today (thank you for sharing the link) anyway he entered the MU hall of fame. He talked a lot about determination.
Big offensive answers to start.
Drink
Holy sh it
We are literally going to foul a 3 pt shooter every game the rest of the year.
I was surprised they didn't call Kolek for hitting the 3 point shooters hand on their 2nd 3 of the half. Got that one
I didn't see a travel there on Jop.
Someone's gotta get Kolek back up!
Jop drives...
They're sizzling from 3.
Defense needs help
This is sad
Why does Jop not get punished for driving??
AWFUL
gonna lose by 10
Yes, there is nothing I want to see more when MU needs to stop a run than clearing out for Joplin to drive. That always ends well
Playing worse than nova started the game. 20 point lead gone in 8 minutes
Very poor decision making the last 10 minutes. We know we can get it back going, so time to get Jop back to threes not driving and Kolek back making good decisions. Oso, assert yourself time
Let's see what kind of response we can come up with.
Sit Joplins ass. He is a turnover machine.
Worst case...lost first 4 min by 7 . hope they hold it together.
Vegas said this was a 1 point game. They must have a copy of the script.
Need to take a deep breath, calm down and get back to what we do. Control the pace, get Oso going. Let's Gooo Marquette!
I am surprised the coaches have not told Joplin to stop being a black hole.
Fouling on a 3 point shot in EVERY GAME...
WTF ? Shaka can't get them to stop that ?
They keep hammering and bodying Kolek and refs letting it happen.
NOw a 9-0 run
Got it back to 10 with the ball and Jop missed a 3, then Kolek fouled the 3 shooter.
TK and Oso have to wake up.
Up 10 and then four point play
That along with Joplin play, but the four pointer may be difference. Turned everything around.
Can't lose after 20 point lead.
Fatigue likely playing a role on the defensive end.
Doesn't explain Jops decision to try to dribble drive
I moved to a different room. That's all I can offer to change the mojo
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 30, 2024, 07:17:13 PM
I moved to a different room. That's all I can offer to change the mojo
I turned it off. Maybe that'll help.
We really fell apart.
Tyler is checked out, let's see how long it takes to get back into it
Missing every single bunny. Every single player
This is absolutely ridiculous.
Not sure what they can do on defense.
On offense, I'd like to see tk and Oso 2 man game as the focus
Not like last year
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 07:18:15 PM
Tyler is checked out, let's see how long it takes to get back into it
He's not checked out, he's gassed. He hasn't sat. They have 7 guys. One of them is Zaide.
We're going to lose, pretty clear. But not worried in the long term.
This is a joke. Embarrassing.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 07:18:15 PM
Tyler is checked out, let's see how long it takes to get back into it
Game completely turned on that no call turnover.
Feels like we are never going to score ever again
The lull is over. Let's crank up the D and start scoring. Starting..... now!
Has DePaul even allowed two different 11-0 runs in like in 10 minutes of game time this year?
That should not even be possible
Quote from: Daniel on January 30, 2024, 07:20:05 PM
The lull is over. Let's crank up the D and start scoring. Starting..... now!
They have no energy, they aren't cranking up anything. Sometimes the deck is stacked against you. It happens.
Can we get rid of this MU commercial? The chat text sequence is cringe.
Man ... this is one hell of a choke
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 30, 2024, 07:19:48 PM
Game completely turned on that no call turnover.
Up 19 when that wasn't called. Gotta refocus.
Gold showing his defensive prowess. What a colossal cave in last 10 minutes
Any team that blows that kind of lead shows piss poor play and coaching
Quote from: BM1090 on January 30, 2024, 07:19:40 PM
He's not checked out, he's gassed. He hasn't sat. They have 7 guys. One of them is Zaide.
We're going to lose, pretty clear. But not worried in the long term.
Disagree, and now he's gotten a little breather, so let's see him get back into it. I think we win.
Can we finally temper the FF talk for this group?
Watching sports is dumb
Gold showing his defensive prowess. What a colossal cave in last 10 minutes
Any team that blows that kind of lead shows piss poor play and coaching
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 07:22:41 PM
Except when we are up 20!
That was about 2 years ago wasn't it?
Nova playing tackle football
Quote from: franklinjerry on January 30, 2024, 07:21:57 PM
Can we finally temper the FF talk for this group?
This is embarrassing
But we also have no depth currently.
Get healthy.
Foul where?
We've completely lost our poise. Need to punch back right now
But tired or not
At some point someone has to make a god damn shot inside of 10 feet.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 07:24:46 PM
We've completely lost our poise. Need to punch back right now
No they haven't. They're tired on the road.
Stop being silly.
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 30, 2024, 07:23:15 PM
That was about 2 years ago wasn't it?
Fo sho. Lucky foul on the three there, we will take it
Important 3 ft's there. Let's go now!
Okay Ty, let's go
He's got the edge back
Let's go now!!!
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 07:28:21 PM
He's got the edge back
Think those fans were pissing him off a bit.
Alright, lets hope that play with an edge TK is back for the rest of this game
Massive mans rebound by Zaide too
Response.
This game is so out of control it looks like a YMCA game!
Ummm, did Joplin just look half-way normal on a drive?
Did Jop travel?
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 30, 2024, 07:28:39 PM
Think those fans were pissing him off a bit.
Yep, let's hope it's productive pissed off Tyler from here on out. Big time shots
Gold starting his brick city tour again
Kolek stepping up with 2 big 3 pointers. Anybody else capable of stepping up? Gold? Joplin?
Quote from: MUCam on January 30, 2024, 07:29:08 PM
Ummm, did Joplin just look half-way normal on a drive?
TBH no. He stumbled and nearly ran out of bounds
The pass was really nice though to save the play
Quote from: MUCam on January 30, 2024, 07:29:08 PM
Ummm, did Joplin just look half-way normal on a drive?
No, but was a heck of a pass
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 07:21:24 PM
Disagree, and now he's gotten a little breather, so let's see him get back into it. I think we win.
I would love nothing more to be wrong. He left a few bunnies short and he's not moving quickly on defense. But the legs looked okay on those two threes.
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 30, 2024, 07:21:06 PM
Man ... this is one hell of a choke
give Shaka credit when it's good, but give him some heat when it's bad...no adjustments. Leaving shooters wide open. Screw this zone. Man up!
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 07:29:31 PM
Yep, let's hope it's productive pissed off Tyler from here on out. Big time shots
Typically there are two TK's
Chip on shoulder(from crowd or doubt)- Good
Pissed off at refs-Bad
When does the game slow down for Gold?
Quote from: Viper on January 30, 2024, 07:30:16 PM
give Shaka credit when it's good, but give him some heat when it's bad...no adjustments. Leaving shooters wide open. Screw this zone. Man up!
Zone is needed in spurts to save legs. But yeah, it's ugly.
Quote from: BM1090 on January 30, 2024, 07:30:11 PM
I would love nothing more to be wrong. He left a few bunnies short and he's not moving quickly on defense. But the legs looked okay on those two threes.
Yeah, it was the defense that made me think he's back to checked out. He's turned it around a little with those threes, let's see if he stays hungry and quick on the defensive rotations
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 30, 2024, 07:31:11 PM
Typically there are two TK's
Chip on shoulder(from crowd or doubt)- Good
Pissed off at refs-Bad
Truth
Oso has to rest
But it cant be for long
Dixon with Ben on him is terrifying.
Dixon traveled again
Good god there's still 10:00 left in this game?
Armstrong traveled
Was that a foul?
We got this.
Gold is lost out there on defense
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 30, 2024, 07:33:45 PM
Armstrong traveled
I thought that as well. They've gotten away with many.
🔥
Holy TKO
Oso undercut on the lob
No foul on Dix there???,
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 07:35:42 PM
No foul on Dix there???,
Dixon was like a wall there, wow
Jeez brutal TO there. Lets close strong!!
That hurts
Ughhhh. That really sucked.
Yeah, now we have to work for another 30 on D, thankfully we do have the media timeout
Also Ill say it again
Ill live and die with a Jop 3 ball. Anytime.
But at this point, I am convinced the man cant even walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. Like 85% chance he chokes to death.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 07:36:04 PM
Dixon was like a wall there, wow
I could take that guy Jump. :)
Damn that hurts. Hard to get on Chase though. He's played a heck of a game.
We got this.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 07:36:04 PM
Dixon was like a wall there, wow
The foul was the moment before that when he undercut Oso on the lob
Gotta get Oso involved to close this game. And D up of course.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 07:38:11 PM
I could take that guy Jump. :)
More power to ya, Muggs!
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 30, 2024, 07:38:59 PM
The foul was the moment before that when he undercut Oso on the lob
You're right
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 30, 2024, 07:14:02 PM
Let's see what kind of response we can come up with.
Showing some big time cojones here. Hope we can sustain for remainder of game.
Fitting they threw it back to Ross
Saw right there what Tyler making threes does to the defense. So pretty
2 man game. Yes please.
Bamba got fouled in the act? That was some NBA continuation
I dunno if Oso fouled there but thwart the strong hand drive.
Winning the second half. For a second
Just commit to the TK and Oso two man game to close it out
If they fail, we live with it.
Are they seriously "airball"ing a guy who chucked up a shot at the shot clock buzzer who is shooting 5/7 even with that? I expect more from Nova fans
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 30, 2024, 07:42:31 PM
Just commit to the TK and Oso two man game to close it out
If they fail, we live with it.
+1
Very surprised at our 2nd half D. Too many in the lane for V.
I give him crap, but 2 good D plays by jop
I keep our current lineup the rest of this game. Gold was too soft.
Good freaking grief. I thought Jop played solid D.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 30, 2024, 07:45:16 PM
I give him crap, but 2 good D plays by jop
Should have been three, didn't like that call by the ref
Dont go stall ball keep attacking
1 foul away from double bonus.
make the freebies and close it out
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 30, 2024, 07:46:41 PM
Dont go stall ball keep attacking
1 foul away from double bonus.
make the freebies and close it out
+1
Hate taking the air out of the ball
Wasn't Oso hit there???
You know, Villanova hasn't missed a FT this whole game
Trouble again
Need a time-out.
Refs suck $hit
I'm going out in a limb and calling this a game of runs
A bunch of tough threes hit by Nova tonight. Reminiscent of games in that rough skid Marquette had earlier this month. Gotta close this one out regardless.
We hate prosperity
CMon.
Jop tries to drive instead of hitting us down low. Oso misses bunny.
Dixon hits a 3. Chase in and out. Foul dixon 90 feet away.
7-0 run
Lets go boys
12 to 5 real quick
Why the frick 90 mph!!! Slow the f down!!!
Ughhh.
Stevie you have go to make the damn 1 and 1.
30 for 30 from the line for nova
Don't love that foul. Not sure he was gonna be able to get it up that quick
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 30, 2024, 07:48:48 PM
CMon.
Jop tries to drive instead of hitting us down low. Oso misses bunny.
Dixon hits a 3. Chase in and out. Foul dixon 90 feet away.
7-0 run
Lets go boys
Should have called a t-o about 2 mins ago.
15-15 FTs
The jinx can kick in anytime now
Huge rebound by Stevie
Has there been a reigning POY who gets less calls than Kolek?
Keep throwing prayers up!!
make fu cking free throws
What kinda weird spin does Stevie put on his shot to miss like that/
Getting hammered every possession. At least refs are calling it. Gotta knock down the FTs.
Chase should have been called for the foul
What a completely clean beautiful block by Chase!!
Stevie having a hard time with Armstrong tonight
Big time block. I think Shaka needs to put some sort of device on Jop, every time he "drives" and turns his back, he gets a kick in the ass
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 30, 2024, 07:54:10 PM
Getting hammered every possession. At least refs are calling it. Gotta knock down the FTs.
Absolutely.
We got this.
Relax.
Our late game free throw shooting has been questionable since it popped up ugly-looking at MSG a few weeks ago.
Has Nova missed a FT tonight?
Up 12 and foul them on every possession 15 for 15 now made.
Mitchell can't make front end and then another straight miss. Three points MU another drought fest. Can't remember last basket made.
Gonna be free throw contest, but Nova best in country.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 07:54:44 PM
Big time block. I think Shaka needs to put some sort of device on Jop, every time he "drives" and turns his back, he gets a kick in the ass
As Jop turned his back on his defender, I was..No, No, No, No....
Make fts. They make theirs. It will be foul city here on out.
I am going to be the hero to the entire world if Jop dribbles one more time inside the arc
I will use all my anger to someone how on a whim create teleportation right now just to teleport to the Finn and knock some sense into him
Thank god they reached too much for no reason.
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 30, 2024, 07:55:56 PM
As Jop turned his back on his defender, I was..No, No, No, No....
You and me both. My dog left the room
Need defensive stops
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on January 30, 2024, 07:55:33 PM
Has Nova missed a FT tonight?
They lead the nation in free throws. Fouling nova is sub optimal strategy.
And we keep missing ours
Free throws matter against Nova, because they never miss em.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 07:56:28 PM
You and me both. My dog left the room
As soon as my dog hears crowd noise of any kind on the TV he typically moves to a different floor of the house
Another heart attack game...
My goodness. FOCUS!!
Jop, please
Jop has been horrendous at the line lately.
Inexcusable for a "shooter"
Make Free throws!!! NOW!!!
Jop out chase in!!
Stevie!!!
Damn Stevie!
Does Jop have all his career blocks in this game?
What?????
What?!
Huge by Stevie.
We have got to stop fouling though
Bailed out again
This FT shooting doesn't make sense
How many enormous plays has Stewie made this season?
Jop with his patented ball watching. Rebound!
Have to get that reb. Make FT's and slam the door.
Was stevie hobbling as he came off the court?
No box out by Jop
Make fts. They make theirs. It will be foul city here on out.
Stevie is a legitimately good finisher around the rim. It always looks funny though.
Quote from: LovinCrowder on January 30, 2024, 08:03:26 PM
Was stevie hobbling as he came off the court?
Yes. He's definitely hurting.
Lol nova fouled Kolek 3 times before that "steal"
Kolek only got slapped 5-6 times before the whistle.
Dixon from 45 feet
Laughable
Miss a shot, Nova.
Ughhh. Of course he makes thaf. Smh.
Seriously?
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on January 30, 2024, 07:48:37 PM
A bunch of tough threes hit by Nova tonight. Reminiscent of games in that rough skid Marquette had earlier this month. Gotta close this one out regardless.
I mean, c'mon.
What a rebound by Joplin.
Hell yeah, Jop!
My son yelled at me and said I had to say good rebound Jop!
Redeem yourself, Jop.
JOP ON THE GLASS!!!
Lets go!!!
Please jop make some throws!!
Jop with a man's rebound!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 30, 2024, 08:07:40 PM
What a rebound by Joplin.
I promise not to talk bad about his next 4 bad drives after that rebound!
JOP - learn how to make a DAMN FT !!
Love to see a two point attempt that takes 10 seconds.
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 30, 2024, 08:08:25 PM
I promise not to talk bad about his next 4 bad drives after that rebound!
Dang, that's a pretty big commitment!
Quote from: Fred Garvin on January 30, 2024, 08:08:03 PM
Please jop make some throws!!
He's definitely not someone we can rely on for clutch free throws.
In bound the ball and:
SLAM
THE
DOOR!!!!!!
#Darkness.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 30, 2024, 08:05:55 PM
Kolek only got slapped 5-6 times before the whistle.
and Raft was questioning it. WTH?
We got this.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 30, 2024, 08:09:12 PM
He's definitely not someone we can rely on for clutch free throws.
Tyler
Oso
Stevie
In that order
Joplin needs to learn how to make fts.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 30, 2024, 08:09:07 PM
Dang, that's a pretty big commitment!
I got caught up in the moment. I hope I don't regret it
Ross shouldn't in bound the ball here imo.
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 30, 2024, 08:10:04 PM
I got caught up in the moment. I hope I don't regret it
We all do, we are human
That inbounds play took WAY TOOO along to have a chance of working
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 30, 2024, 08:09:55 PM
Tyler
Oso
Stevie
In that order
At this point I might put Chase 2nd.
I don't mind Ross at the line either
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 08:10:50 PM
Ross shouldn't in bound the ball here imo.
Maybe Oso?
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 30, 2024, 08:11:08 PM
That inbounds play took WAY TOOO along to have a chance of working
Excellent point. Let's go now!!
Tyler bails out the boys. Love it
Whoa....whew. :)
Phew.
That'll do it.
A win is a win is a win....but what's going on with these big lead games going south
I'm going to chose to simply see Kolek was fouled just like it should have happened
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on January 30, 2024, 08:13:00 PM
A win is a win is a win....but what's going on with these big lead games going south
Road game against a desperate team with a lot of talent.
I give this game thread a solid 4.5 🫏 out of 5
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 30, 2024, 08:14:49 PM
I give this game thread a solid 4.5 🫏 out of 5
I tapped out during the Nova run. I'm sure I missed pure brilliance.
Well that was easy lol. W I N. Yes!
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 30, 2024, 08:13:39 PM
Road game against a desperate team with a lot of talent.
And they made some shots out of their buttocks'. Major props to our guys and it's great to have Chase back.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 30, 2024, 07:21:13 PM
Gold showing his defensive prowess. What a colossal cave in last 10 minutes
Any team that blows that kind of lead shows piss poor play and coaching
Another Marquette loss apparently
Quote from: willie warrior on January 30, 2024, 07:30:00 PM
Gold starting his brick city tour again
Kolek stepping up with 2 big 3 pointers. Anybody else capable of stepping up? Gold? Joplin?
No
Hope Tre is ok,and maybe they rest Kam one more game?
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 30, 2024, 08:16:34 PM
I tapped out during the Nova run. I'm sure I missed pure brilliance.
Real Chilli the only real one
Quote from: Fred Garvin on January 30, 2024, 08:22:21 PM
Hope Tre is ok,and maybe they rest Kam one more game?
With Chase back you absolutely rest Kam Saturday unless he's ready to go.
Chase was a big difference, need somebody off the bench to score. Plus he plays D. Ben today showed how weak he is and his shot was flat as a pancake again. He was under the hoop earlier in the game and did not even try and muscle it up. Could not guard Dixon at all. Credit has to go to Tyler, played like an All American today.
Quote from: BCHoopster on January 30, 2024, 08:24:51 PM
Chase was a big difference, need somebody off the bench to score. Plus he plays D. Ben today showed how weak he is and his shot was flat as a pancake again. He was under the hoop earlier in the game and did not even try and muscle it up. Could not guard Dixon at all. Credit has to go to Tyler, played like an All American today.
Huge contribution today.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 08:24:01 PM
Or not.
A scooper that called a loss in this game unacceptable or inexcusable would be wrong.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on January 30, 2024, 08:01:55 PM
How many enormous plays has Stewie made this season?
None.
Quote from: BCHoopster on January 30, 2024, 08:24:51 PM
Chase was a big difference, need somebody off the bench to score. Plus he plays D. Ben today showed how weak he is and his shot was flat as a pancake again. He was under the hoop earlier in the game and did not even try and muscle it up. Could not guard Dixon at all. Credit has to go to Tyler, played like an All American today.
Ben didn't have a great game but this is a pile of sh*t.
BCHoopster does not like this team.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 30, 2024, 08:25:57 PM
A scooper that called a loss in this game unacceptable or inexcusable would be wrong.
Weak rebuttal.
tower
I like BC a lot, but he is not high on the team or individual players. That is good by me because there is not a much better MU fan than BC.
Quote from: Goose on January 30, 2024, 08:31:12 PM
tower
I like BC a lot, but he is not high on the team or individual players. That is good by me because there is not a much better MU fan than BC.
This doesn't make sense.
Quote from: tower912 on January 30, 2024, 08:29:38 PM
BCHoopster does not like this team.
Really, just like Ben to play better, like Jop to stop dribbling, am I asking too much. Jop to make some free throws in the clutch, but watching Tyler and Oso play together is amazing.
Vander
BC knows his stuff, loves MU basketball and he has a right to his opinion. I might not agree, but he is not a troll or stirring the pot.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 08:30:52 PM
Weak rebuttal.
Weak? It's correct. A game on the road in January 30th where you have 6 regular rotation players, 1 of which is coming back from injury for the first time since the beginning of the month playing against a hungry opponent wouldn't be an inexcusable or unacceptable loss.
Goose, I believe you. He is pessimistic about this particular team.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 30, 2024, 08:35:24 PM
Weak? It's correct. A game on the road in January 30th where you have 6 regular rotation players, 1 of which is coming back from injury for the first time since the beginning of the month playing against a hungry opponent wouldn't be an inexcusable or unacceptable loss.
Wrong. Everyone other than you and Scoop-Snoop understand my points.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 08:36:49 PM
Wrong. Everyone other than you and Scoop-Snoop understand my points.
No, I'm right.
Quote from: BCHoopster on January 30, 2024, 08:24:51 PM
Chase was a big difference, need somebody off the bench to score. Plus he plays D. Ben today showed how weak he is and his shot was flat as a pancake again. He was under the hoop earlier in the game and did not even try and muscle it up. Could not guard Dixon at all. Credit has to go to Tyler, played like an All American today.
Ben was rightfully taken out when he was.
But you are selling him short. He helped big time during the first half run. And he had possibly the game saving rebound and kick out when Nova was going nuclear and we couldnt hit water if we fell out of a boat.
Quote from: Goose on January 30, 2024, 08:34:51 PM
Vander
BC knows his stuff, loves MU basketball and he has a right to his opinion. I might not agree, but he is not a troll or stirring the pot.
Fair enough. But his opinion is not tethered to reality right now, which contradicts his ball-knowing.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 08:37:52 PM
Whatever. No hard feelings though.
Thank you and likewise. There's a difference between passion like your passion and lunacy like others in this game thread
What a great game. Started out like we were going to blow them out of the gym but turned into a tight one. Our experience pays huge dividends in this type of game, on the road as well.
Tyler was huge. Great to have Chase back and he made an immediate impact which we absolutely needed with Kam's injury.
Shaka is now 6-0 against Nova as our coach. That's huge!
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 08:36:49 PM
Wrong. Everyone other than you and Scoop-Snoop understand my points.
All 5 of them?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 30, 2024, 08:39:02 PM
Thank you and likewise. There's a difference between passion like your passion and lunacy like others in this game thread
That's fair.
Quote from: Fred Garvin on January 30, 2024, 08:22:21 PM
Hope Tre is ok,and maybe they rest Kam one more game?
Tre played late. Came in when Stevie was cramping.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 30, 2024, 08:37:59 PM
Fair enough. But his opinion is not tethered to reality right now, which contradicts his ball-knowing.
Vander, can you explain, what you are talking about?
Quote from: tower912 on January 30, 2024, 08:29:38 PM
BCHoopster does not like this team.
Tower, love ya, but BC's comments have a large basis in what we saw.
BC
You have not indicated being a big fan of this roster or overly optimistic for next year. I guess the fact that MU has been ranked in the top ten for much of the last twelve months has some fans more excited than you. That said, I was a major wet blanket back in Wojo's "big" year.
Agreed. He sees the problems and not the opportunities. I am not mad at or even really that critical of his mindset. It is fine. He has been consistent in his approach. Not irrational or vitriolic. Good on him.
Quote from: Goose on January 30, 2024, 09:01:38 PM
BC
You have not indicated being a big fan of this roster or overly optimistic for next year. I guess the fact that MU has been ranked in the top ten for much of the last twelve months has some fans more excited than you. That said, I was a major wet blanket back in Wojo's "big" year.
Goose, this team has 2 of the best players in MU history, no one can deny that. My expections this year were to win a National Championship, can that still happen, maybe. For that to happen the secondary players have to be better, that's it! We will see what happens in 45 days!
BC
IMO, TK is an all time great player in MU history and Oso is playing great. We agree that NC is the bar and we will see what happens. That said, I think this team is far better than a year ago at this time. I think they are ready. Up to the boys!
Quote from: tower912 on January 30, 2024, 08:29:38 PM
BCHoopster does not like this team.
what is BC saying regarding Gold's game tnite that's inaccurate ? Flat shot. Rushed, off balance. Outmuscled in the paint. I assume Shaka sat Gold the final 10 minutes to take away 'Nova exploiting the mismatch. I think once the game slows down for Ben, he'll be ok. And at times...such as vs SH, he looked good. Tnite not so much. btw, Nova's making this a game not on Ben, but SH Gold would have helped a lot, imo.
Quote from: Viper on January 30, 2024, 09:48:02 PM
what is BC saying regarding Gold's game tnite that's inaccurate ? Flat shot. Rushed, off balance. Outmuscled in the paint. I assume Shaka sat Gold the final 10 minutes to take away 'Nova exploiting the mismatch. I think once the game slows down for Ben, he'll be ok. And at times...such as vs SH, he looked good. Tnite not so much. btw, Nova's making this a game not on Ben, but SH Gold would have helped a lot, imo.
Yea Benny didn't play great.
If he had, he wouldn't have gotten 17 mins to Chase' 31, coming off an injury.
It's ok to admit that.
The last few games had me believing that he and Jop are the keys to March success, but it may be Chase and Jop instead, with Ben being a nice unexpected burst of a few 3s off the bench.
At the end of the day, for good or bad, Ben's importance to this years squad fully depends on him making open 3s. He gets a ton, so hopefully he can make more.
I still have a feeling that in a weird way, and I hope I'm wrong, he might get thrust into action by necessity in an elimination game due to Oso foul trouble.
Hope he's ready for that, because Marquette will need him to survive and advance so Oso can play again
Quote from: DoctorV on January 30, 2024, 10:03:36 PM
Yea Benny didn't play great.
If he had, he wouldn't have gotten 17 mins to Chase' 31, coming off an injury.
It's ok to admit that.
The last few games had me believing that he and Jop are the keys to March success, but it may be Chase and Jop instead, with Ben being a nice unexpected burst of a few 3s off the bench.
At the end of the day, for good or bad, Ben's importance to this years squad fully depends on him making open 3s. He gets a ton, so hopefully he can make more.
I still have a feeling that in a weird way, and I hope I'm wrong, he might get thrust into action by necessity in an elimination game due to Oso foul trouble.
Hope he's ready for that, because Marquette will need him to survive and advance so Oso can play again
...agreed
Having watched the replay earIy this morning, I think it's important to reiterate that the foul on Oso at 1:17 was utter garbage. And it's the kind of call that could have cost us the game. Stevie had a steal after great defense and we would have had the rock up 6. Instead, Dixon gets two freebies. Totally inexcusable call.
By the way, another amazing game thread