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Not a big fan of his coaching, but changed the program with his final 4 appearance. Good speech!
He's a big part of this program's story. Glad he's back in the fold.
"This could be the greatest year of your basketball lives no matter how long you play."
Thought the "f*ck soccer" remark was a bit much
It's going to take me some more time to come around on the tan one. Has he dumped a big bag of coin into the NIL fund?
He's mended fences and moved on.
Quote from: tower912 on October 15, 2023, 02:20:05 PM
He's mended fences and moved on.
agree 100%.
(Did good things here, for sure. Former MU players of his speak well of him. Made a move he thought was better...wondering if in hindsight TC still feels that way?)
Quote from: Hoops92 on October 15, 2023, 02:18:51 PM
It's going to take me some more time to come around on the tan one. Has he dumped a big bag of coin into the NIL fund?
Dont really get why theres any more time needed for anyone to come around.
He did what he did here which was objectively great for the program. Got a massive opportunity and took it.
Ever since then he has done absolutely nothing but support the program. For the most part things didnt go ideally for him when he left(so no reason to be jealously bitter) and we are currently in a fantastic spot with our current coach.
Yeah, it didn't take me long to get over it at all. No idea why this still bothers people.
Quote from: Hoops92 on October 15, 2023, 02:18:51 PM
It's going to take me some more time to come around on the tan one. Has he dumped a big bag of coin into the NIL fund?
It's been 15 years, how much more time do you need?
You could see it at the 100 year anniversary, he genuinely cares about Marquette. Play Shaka wouldn't have brought him in if he thought otherwise.
Quote from: Viper on October 15, 2023, 02:31:19 PM
agree 100%.
(Did good things here, for sure. Former MU players of his speak well of him. Made a move he thought was better...wondering if in hindsight TC still feels that way?)
I am sure in hindsight many here know the move was better now that we have Shaka.
The only thing I hold over Crean was his massive choke against Cuse in 2013. IU wins that I think we win that E8 matchup against them.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 15, 2023, 04:16:40 PM
The only thing I hold over Crean was his massive choke against Cuse in 2013. IU wins that I think we win that E8 matchup against them.
We should have beaten Syracuse ourselves.
Quote from: SaveOD238 on October 15, 2023, 04:24:39 PM
We should have beaten Syracuse ourselves.
Yeah but I'm not going to blame us, blaming IU and Crean is easier.
Quote from: SaveOD238 on October 15, 2023, 04:24:39 PM
We should have beaten Syracuse ourselves.
Boeheim made adjustments from the game played in the BC. Took too long to figure it out and they just didn't have enough offense.
Crean sucks
That's "future Marquette Athletic Director Tom Crean."
I give him a ton of credit. Best ex coach in MU history.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 15, 2023, 05:02:00 PM
That's "future Marquette Athletic Director Tom Crean."
Oh I hope not.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 15, 2023, 05:02:00 PM
That's "future Marquette Athletic Director Tom Crean."
I'd much rather he fulfill his FIL's old post than AD.
It's helped me that he didn't reach a higher level of success at Indiana. He has been always positive about MU and one of our bigger National cheerleaders.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 15, 2023, 05:02:00 PM
That's "future Marquette Athletic Director Tom Crean."
I would think he's around the same age as Bill Scholl and I hope Bill isn't going anywhere
Quote from: swoopem on October 15, 2023, 05:19:47 PM
I would think he's around the same age as Bill Scholl and I hope Bill isn't going anywhere
Scholl's about a decade older.
Quote from: swoopem on October 15, 2023, 05:19:47 PM
I would think he's around the same age as Bill Scholl and I hope Bill isn't going anywhere
Scholl is 66 and I'd be surprised if he was around for more than 2-3 years. I don't think he'll still be here at 70. Crean is 57, younger than Scholl was when he got the job.
They did a documentary about him when he was in his final days at IN. He seems to have evolved into a pretty sincere guy who cares a lot about the right things. Since he left MU he has made many appearances at MU and has been super complimentary about the program. I was bitter when he left but moved on from that a long time ago. I respect him and appreciate his contribution to our program.
Yeah, people who still have a problem with Crean probably need to look in the mirror and engage in some self-reflection.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 15, 2023, 04:50:33 PM
Crean sucks
Hello.
Actually I look in the mirror everyday and like what I see. I'm good, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 15, 2023, 07:28:05 PM
Actually I look in the mirror everyday and like what I see. I'm good, hey?
I have no doubt about that.
Absolutely, and right back at ya, hey?
Don't have a problem with Tom Crean. He did great for the university when he was here (and what other coach besides Al stayed 9 years or more?) and he said once I think, " I didn't leave for any other reason than I looked at Indiana as a pinnacle of coaching". If he believed that, great. None of us like the way he left, but he has been supportive of the university and Marquette basketball for a long time. And never dissed Marquette, the big East or anything else.
If he came back to Marquette in some capacity other than coach, I'm good, love Shaka and hope he stays forever.
For those who still insist on holding a grudge against Crean for, after 9 years here, taking a job at a blue blood college basketball program, they should never forget one thing. Al McGuire, the Patron Saint of Marquette basketball, would have been the head coach of the Bucks in 1968, had MU agreed to tearing up his existing contract. Luckily MU at the time was being run by a Jesuit with some starch in his backbone. If I remember the quote all these years later, the response was "we honor contracts both ways here, Coach. Now get your ass back to work."
So all Crean did was something Al tried to do 40 years earlier.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 15, 2023, 05:22:40 PM
Scholl is 66 and I'd be surprised if he was around for more than 2-3 years. I don't think he'll still be here at 70. Crean is 57, younger than Scholl was when he got the job.
It's Broeker's job
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 15, 2023, 08:59:48 PM
It's Broeker's job
Is it? I was thinking once he didn't get it when Scholl was hired, that he may have a ceiling at MU.
Also, I think the former coach as an AD to shake hands and raise money is a thing of the past. I don't think I'd want Crean at the table for realignment discussions. He did give us Gold after all.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 16, 2023, 05:40:49 AM
Why?
He has no administrative experience. Back in the day someone who could galdhand and fire up the fan base was all you needed, but these times call for a lot more.
UW kept Barry around too long and they fell behind in a number of significant areas. Sure he was a legend, but stuff like NIL just didn't get off the ground with him there.
I would look at a guy like Craig Pintens. He's an alum who used to oversee the marketing at Oregon athletics and is now the AD at Loyola Marymount. That's the kind of profile you want as your next AD.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on October 16, 2023, 06:28:09 AM
He has no administrative experience. Back in the day someone who could galdhand and fire up the fan base was all you needed, but these times call for a lot more.
UW kept Barry around too long and they fell behind in a number of significant areas. Sure he was a legend, but stuff like NIL just didn't get off the ground with him there.
I would look at a guy like Craig Pintens. He's an alum who used to oversee the marketing at Oregon athletics and is now the AD at Loyola Marymount. That's the kind of profile you want as your next AD.
MU marketing could use a galdhander.
Some on the AD staff tell me they get PTSD when Crean shows up. He was quite the tool back then.
On the other hand, he is still super tight with his former players.
Quote from: real chili 83 on October 16, 2023, 06:54:34 AM
Some on the AD staff tell me they get PTSD when Crean shows up. He was quite the tool back then.
On the other hand, he is still super tight with his former players.
Marquette would have to increase its Ambius plant rental contract.
He's been a great ambassador of the program since he left. He left for Indiana, not Virginia Tech. TC always speaks very highly of MU and it's great to see him visit.
HIRE CRAIG PINTENS!
But I think Broeker would be great too.
And I love the idea of Crean taking the old Jack Harbaugh gig.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on October 16, 2023, 07:58:41 AM
He's been a great ambassador of the program since he left. He left for Indiana, not Virginia Tech. TC always speaks very highly of MU and it's great to see him visit.
Agreed. I never met him. I have no grudge against the man. He did good things at MU and seems to understand the MU culture.
I did find it mildly humorous that the IU gig didn't go as well as expected for the IU fans. I remember telling them at the time that he may not be as good of a hire as they thought he would be.
Quote from: real chili 83 on October 16, 2023, 06:54:34 AM
Some on the AD staff tell me they get PTSD when Crean shows up. He was quite the tool back then.
On the other hand, he is still super tight with his former players.
He's changed A LOT from what I've seen. I think he's been humbled in the 15 years since he left. I remember thinking in the last 5 years, around the time he got the gig at UGA, that his interviews and media were so much more personable and relatable. His appearances on Pardon My Take were great and that's not really a venue where you can fake it.
He was full of himself and a weirdo off the court at Marquette, for sure. But people grow up and develop into better versions of themselves. And anyone who isn't totally biased against him can see he still loves and cares about Marquette and it's culture and it's tradition.
I agree he wouldn't be a good AD choice, the days of a former football coach sliding right into the AD role, that happened all the time South, is gone. But it would be a miss to not have him involved in the athletics department/marketing/fundraising in some way if he was interested
That's good to hear Wags. Yes, people do change.
Coaching is a quirky profession. Crean certain fit the bill.
Quote from: Hoops92 on October 15, 2023, 02:18:51 PM
It's going to take me some more time to come around on the tan one. Has he dumped a big bag of coin into the NIL fund?
Not sure that is a fair expectation of any former coach. It was a nice gesture to visit the team.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 15, 2023, 05:02:00 PM
That's "future Marquette Athletic Director Tom Crean."
Wouldn't be the worst hire, honestly. Dude knew how to fire up the fan base, fill arenas, did a lot of events, free giveaways, would give donuts to students lined up outside early morning games, etc. I know there's more to being an AD than that but he did seem to have a lot of genuine passion about getting everyone in the MU community engaged and excited.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on October 16, 2023, 06:28:09 AM
He has no administrative experience. Back in the day someone who could galdhand and fire up the fan base was all you needed, but these times call for a lot more.
UW kept Barry around too long and they fell behind in a number of significant areas. Sure he was a legend, but stuff like NIL just didn't get off the ground with him there.
I would look at a guy like Craig Pintens. He's an alum who used to oversee the marketing at Oregon athletics and is now the AD at Loyola Marymount. That's the kind of profile you want as your next AD.
Pintens would also be a great choice. He's the 1A on my list. Understands Marquette and how to run an athletic department at a similar university, but also has experience with a bigger program like Oregon.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 16, 2023, 10:43:26 AM
Pintens would also be a great choice. He's the 1A on my list. Understands Marquette and how to run an athletic department at a similar university, but also has experience with a bigger program like Oregon.
And LSU.
Pintens may have gotten to soft out in Cali to survive Wisconsin winters.
I attended MU during the Crean days (2007 grad). I was bitter as all hell when he left. That being said, the tan man has made multiple comments in the last handful of years about how special the MU job was to him and his family. Go watch the centennial hoopla videos and his press conference after the hoopla. Obviously, the IU job back in 2008 is much different than the IU job today; but I got the sense if he had to do it again, he would not have left (hindsight is 20/20). I have looked for videos and have not seen Crean talking the same way about IU and UGA as he does MU.
As far as AD Tan man, I am indifferent. I know nothing about running an athletics department and I will leave that choice up to the experts at MU.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 15, 2023, 12:43:35 PM
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I'm OK with TC after all these years but serious question, is this a paid appearance for TC or just done out of the goodness of his heart?
Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on October 16, 2023, 11:05:23 AM
I'm OK with TC after all these years but serious question, is this a paid appearance for TC or just done out of the goodness of his heart?
I would like to think its free and we just paid TC's travel expenses from Sarasota, FL, but we will never know for sure.
The FF appearance was a dream come true.
But when Wade left, the team struggled for two more years.
Then the three Amigos came.
Winning the Great Alaskan Shootout and then blowing #2 UCONN out for our BEAST entry.
Knew we were on the ascent.
Quote from: NCMUFan on October 16, 2023, 02:45:40 PM
The FF appearance was a dream come true.
But when Wade left, the team struggled for two more years.
Then the three Amigos came.
Winning the Great Alaskan Shootout and then blowing #2 UCONN out for our BEAST entry.
Knew we were on the ascent.
if Dominic James is healthy, that's a FF team
Quote from: NCMUFan on October 16, 2023, 02:45:40 PM
The FF appearance was a dream come true.
But when Wade left, the team struggled for two more years.
Then the three Amigos came.
Winning the Great Alaskan Shootout and then blowing #2 UCONN out for our BEAST entry.
Knew we were on the ascent.
Didn't they go like 14-1 the next year before Travis got injured? Or was that 05?
Curious as to what he has done for others that doesn't also benefit him.
Also curious if he would have any interest in MU if he had become successful at IU.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 16, 2023, 02:52:59 PM
Didn't they go like 14-1 the next year before Travis got injured? Or was that 05?
I believe they went into a tailspin when Travis became injured and they had no backup point guard.
Quote from: avid1010 on October 16, 2023, 04:24:22 PM
Curious as to what he has done for others that doesn't also benefit him.
Also curious if he would have any interest in MU if he had become successful at IU.
How does this truly benefit him? It's not for some ESPN/FOX segment. It's not gonna magically get him a new job. He's not trying to be an assistant for Shaka. He's further reconnecting with a program that has a huge place in his life.
And that's a largely worthless hypothetical. Life experience and human growth isn't linear or pre-ordained. If Al takes the Bucks job there is not 77 Championship and he doesn't have his name all over campus and the culture of the program is completely different. But he didn't and so he does.
Crean had success and made a TON of money after Marquette even though he didn't make another F4. It's not like he flamed out within a year or two. He has plenty of money, has TV gigs if he wants them. It's bizarre to be this cynical 15 years later about something pretty cool that Shaka clearly appreciated...
Not only appreciated, but Shaka invited him to do!
Quote from: JWags85 on October 16, 2023, 05:51:56 PM
How does this truly benefit him? It's not for some ESPN/FOX segment. It's not gonna magically get him a new job. He's not trying to be an assistant for Shaka. He's further reconnecting with a program that has a huge place in his life.
And that's a largely worthless hypothetical. Life experience and human growth isn't linear or pre-ordained. If Al takes the Bucks job there is not 77 Championship and he doesn't have his name all over campus and the culture of the program is completely different. But he didn't and so he does.
Crean had success and made a TON of money after Marquette even though he didn't make another F4. It's not like he flamed out within a year or two. He has plenty of money, has TV gigs if he wants them. It's bizarre to be this cynical 15 years later about something pretty cool that Shaka clearly appreciated...
Spot on - this does not benefit TC in anyway. He made over $40M in coaching and has the ability to command money on TV, interviews, coaching clinics, and consulting. As mentioned before, I was pissed he left, but looking back on it I understand why. I really believe he is doing this out of the goodness of his heart and I am happy he is. Yes, I realize there are angles to everything, but I do not see the angle here. He could have been wildly successful with IU and or UGA, and MU could have been afterthought - but that is not how it played out. TC coming around a few times a year is great for the program and great for the ex-players he coached.
For me it wasn't that he left, but how he left. And that anger subsided a long time ago.
It's great that Shaka asked, and that he accepted the invite to speak with the team.
Quote from: JWags85 on October 16, 2023, 05:51:56 PM
How does this truly benefit him? It's not for some ESPN/FOX segment. It's not gonna magically get him a new job. He's not trying to be an assistant for Shaka. He's further reconnecting with a program that has a huge place in his life.
And that's a largely worthless hypothetical. Life experience and human growth isn't linear or pre-ordained. If Al takes the Bucks job there is not 77 Championship and he doesn't have his name all over campus and the culture of the program is completely different. But he didn't and so he does.
Crean had success and made a TON of money after Marquette even though he didn't make another F4. It's not like he flamed out within a year or two. He has plenty of money, has TV gigs if he wants them. It's bizarre to be this cynical 15 years later about something pretty cool that Shaka clearly appreciated...
You know anyone who was an a$$ 15 years ago? You think he's still an a$$? Well...stop being cynical.
Quote from: avid1010 on October 16, 2023, 06:57:43 PM
You know anyone who was an a$$ 15 years ago? You think he's still an a$$? Well...stop being cynical.
Unlike most, I wasn't butt hurt when he left. I was happy. I thought he was full of himself and not all that much as a coach. Nothing I saw of him at Indiana or Georgia changed my opinion. He was fired at both places and I don't think either place is inviting him back for any celebrations. The only "home" he has to go back to is MU.
Maybe he's changed, maybe he's grateful for what he had at MU. If so, I'm OK with him turning up every once in a while. But I'll never be a fan.
It's time to forgive.
Let's stop judging the guy and be thankful for the folks he brought to our program, one of which is a basketball HOFer.
His talk was a good one and his accomplishments at MU were not insignificant.
The cold never bothered me anyway.
Lenny
You summed my feelings on Crean. Not a word I would change from your post. I love Shaka getting these speakers in and Crean is part of our last FF. It definitely seems like the program has very lofty expectations of what success looks like this season and I love it.
Quote from: avid1010 on October 16, 2023, 06:57:43 PM
You know anyone who was an a$$ 15 years ago? You think he's still an a$$? Well...stop being cynical.
Exactly, it's 15 years and 3 coaches ago. Let it go.
If Shaka feels comfortable enough to invite him to speak to the team that should be enough of a reason.
I hate him. I've hated every coach since Al quit. As a Marquette fan, I find great joy in hating coaches, players, media, the university, athletic department and quite frankly other fans. Hate drives my fandom
Quote from: MUfan12 on October 16, 2023, 06:16:31 PM
For me it wasn't that he left, but how he left. And that anger subsided a long time ago.
It's great that Shaka asked, and that he accepted the invite to speak with the team.
How he left???
How did he leave that at the time got you chafed??
Quote from: MUbiz on October 16, 2023, 06:06:17 PM
Spot on - this does not benefit TC in anyway. He made over $40M in coaching and has the ability to command money on TV, interviews, coaching clinics, and consulting. As mentioned before, I was pissed he left, but looking back on it I understand why. I really believe he is doing this out of the goodness of his heart and I am happy he is. Yes, I realize there are angles to everything, but I do not see the angle here. He could have been wildly successful with IU and or UGA, and MU could have been afterthought - but that is not how it played out. TC coming around a few times a year is great for the program and great for the ex-players he coached.
Would Crean ever have interest in coming on board as an assistant? He'd be the experienced vet clock manager type.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 16, 2023, 09:22:11 PM
How he left???
How did he leave that at the time got you chafed??
Mainly that the team didn't hear from him for hours after the report came out that he took the IU gig.
The Indiana job was one he had to take, especially back then.
Quote from: MUfan12 on October 16, 2023, 10:00:08 PM
Mainly that the team didn't hear from him for hours after the report came out that he took the IU gig.
The Indiana job was one he had to take, especially back then.
Also, I'm pretty sure the announcement was when MU leadership was in the air too a WNIT game.
If the people who were actually on the team have forgiven him for "how he left," I'm sure fans who had no personal relationship with him could let it go too.
Quote from: NCMUFan on October 16, 2023, 05:44:10 PM
I believe they went into a tailspin when Travis became injured and they had no backup point guard.
Rob Hanley, walk on, became starting point guard if I recall correctly.
That team, with Travis healthy, was a solid NCAA caliber team. But it was basically just him and Novak carrying the entire load. No depth whatsoever. Once Diener went down, it was a bad, bad situation.
Quote from: Coleman on October 17, 2023, 08:43:37 AM
Rob Hanley, walk on, became starting point guard if I recall correctly.
That team, with Travis healthy, was a solid NCAA caliber team. But it was basically just him and Novak carrying the entire load. No depth whatsoever. Once Diener went down, it was a bad, bad situation.
Are we forgetting Marcus Jackson bringing the ball up?
Quote from: cheebs09 on October 17, 2023, 08:55:02 AM
Are we forgetting Marcus Jackson bringing the ball up?
I think my brain blocked out that trauma. Thanks for the reminder.
Quote from: JWags85 on October 16, 2023, 05:51:56 PM
How does this truly benefit him? It's not for some ESPN/FOX segment. It's not gonna magically get him a new job. He's not trying to be an assistant for Shaka. He's further reconnecting with a program that has a huge place in his life.
And that's a largely worthless hypothetical. Life experience and human growth isn't linear or pre-ordained. If Al takes the Bucks job there is not 77 Championship and he doesn't have his name all over campus and the culture of the program is completely different. But he didn't and so he does.
Crean had success and made a TON of money after Marquette even though he didn't make another F4. It's not like he flamed out within a year or two. He has plenty of money, has TV gigs if he wants them. It's bizarre to be this cynical 15 years later about something pretty cool that Shaka clearly appreciated...
I agree with this analysis. Crean may have been off-putting to some, but to deny the impact he made on the program is shallow and petty. He's always been very complimentary of Marquette. He left MU for what was perceived to be one of the blue blood jobs/programs in college hoops. End of the day people were stung when he left because it felt like a big loss at the time. Buzz stepped in and ultimately proved to be a better coach and the program didn't skip a beat.
Btw, I found the content of Crean's speech to the team to be really good. Shaka bringing him in to acknowledge his impact on the program and to share his message with the team speaks volumes.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on October 17, 2023, 09:19:11 AM
I agree with this analysis. Crean may have been off-putting to some, but to deny the impact he made on the program is shallow and petty. He's always been very complimentary of Marquette. He left MU for what was perceived to be one of the blue blood jobs/programs in college hoops. End of the day people were stung when he left because it felt like a big loss at the time. Buzz stepped in and ultimately proved to be a better coach and the program didn't skip a beat.
Btw, I found the content of Crean's speech to the team to be really good. Shaka bringing him in to acknowledge his impact on the program and to share his message with the team speaks volumes.
Agreed on everything. But especially the last paragraph. Shaka is not shying away from this opportunity at all. He knows he has a final four caliber team and brought in a coach who has done it before at MU. It was a great message on what could be accomplished THIS year.
Take the bull by the horns boys! Let's get this done!
Quote from: cheebs09 on October 17, 2023, 08:55:02 AM
Are we forgetting Marcus Jackson bringing the ball up?
I'd like to.
Are there full versions of the speeches? Both seem to just be highlights.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 17, 2023, 10:09:03 AM
Are there full versions of the speeches? Both seem to just be highlights.
I have looked and can't find the full version. I do not think MUBB releases the full version.
Kevin O'Neill's speech was 3 seconds. The other 45 minutes was bleeped out, aina?
Crean was, and continues to be, a huge asset for our basketball program. People are upset how he left, but he also left behind a ton of talent on the court and hired Buzz who took us to our best run of postseason success since Al.
Crean rubbed some people in the athletic department the wrong way. Honestly, we tried the Boy Scout route with Wojo and we saw how that turned out. Give me a Crean over a Wojo any day of the week.
Quote from: DienerTime34 on October 17, 2023, 10:39:16 AM
Crean was, and continues to be, a huge asset for our basketball program. People are upset how he left, but he also left behind a ton of talent on the court and hired Buzz who took us to our best run of postseason success since Al.
Crean rubbed some people in the athletic department the wrong way. Honestly, we tried the Boy Scout route with Wojo and we saw how that turned out. Give me a Crean over a Wojo any day of the week.
I always forget that Crean hired Buzz and Buzz was an MU assistant. That continuity was definitely important to keeping the 3 Amigos on board their senior year.
Quote from: Coleman on October 17, 2023, 10:43:56 AM
I always forget that Crean hired Buzz and Buzz was an MU assistant. That continuity was definitely important to keeping the 3 Amigos on board their senior year.
Back then, they would have had to sit if they transferred. I doubt any of them were going to do that.
Quote from: DienerTime34 on October 17, 2023, 10:39:16 AM
Crean was, and continues to be, a huge asset for our basketball program. People are upset how he left, but he also left behind a ton of talent on the court and hired Buzz who took us to our best run of postseason success since Al.
Crean rubbed some people in the athletic department the wrong way. Honestly, we tried the Boy Scout route with Wojo and we saw how that turned out. Give me a Crean over a Wojo any day of the week.
Agree - in high level sports (P5 College and Pro), there are very few coaches that are boy scouts. You have to be somewhat maniacal/insane to be able to deal with all the BS that comes with being a high level coach. TC did not break any recruiting rules at Marquette and took a team to a final 4. Too bad he rubbed some people the wrong way. If you ask the players what they think about TC, they say nothing but the best things about him. TC's job was to resurrect a program and win, not to make every MU fan feel good.
Quote from: DienerTime34 on October 17, 2023, 10:39:16 AM
Crean was, and continues to be, a huge asset for our basketball program. People are upset how he left, but he also left behind a ton of talent on the court and hired Buzz who took us to our best run of postseason success since Al.
Crean rubbed some people in the athletic department the wrong way. Honestly, we tried the Boy Scout route with Wojo and we saw how that turned out. Give me a Crean over a Wojo any day of the week.
Crean had the audacity of dragging Marquette into the modern era of college basketball while incorporating the past. I hate him for ushering in a new era of Marquette basketball instead of just remembering when
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 17, 2023, 10:52:12 AM
Crean had the audacity of dragging Marquette into the modern era of college basketball while incorporating the past. I hate him for ushering in a new era of Marquette basketball instead of just remembering when
Until they take their team photo in front of a 1934 Packard convertible, the glory will never truly return.
Uncle reeko dated a lady. One day, he saw a post on the Gram from some rando that his girl was with a new guy. She had told him nothing of this.
Later that day, she posts, "reeko was ok, but it's Jared, it's Jared!! (her new guy)"
reeko felt it was fine and had no issue
Quote from: Coleman on October 17, 2023, 10:43:56 AM
I always forget that Crean hired Buzz and Buzz was an MU assistant. That continuity was definitely important to keeping the 3 Amigos on board their senior year.
Not to mention Lazar and Cubillion. in Buzz's first two teams Jimmy & DJO were the only two key pieces he brought in (yes I know Fulce was a big recruit but injuries happened)
Quote from: SaveOD238 on October 16, 2023, 09:55:00 PM
Would Crean ever have interest in coming on board as an assistant? He'd be the experienced vet clock manager type.
Yes, please put Tom Crean in charge of when to call time outs.
Tom Crean brought a lot of positives to Marquette.
For better or worse, he was a Big Ten guy and went back when the opportunity arose.
Glad to see Marquette is still important to him.
Quote from: NCMUFan on October 17, 2023, 12:00:11 PM
Tom Crean brought a lot of positives to Marquette.
For better or worse, he was a Big Ten guy and went back when the opportunity arose.
Glad to see Marquette is still important to him.
As much as people (including me) have made fun of it, in 2008 there was some legitimacy to the "It's Indiana...it's Indiana" explanation. I don't think Crean was necessarily a "Big Ten guy." It was Indiana.
I heard before the season began, Crean took the 2002-2003 team to the Louisiana Superdome.
Maybe Shaka should take the team to the State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona to get them familiar with playing there in April.
Quote from: NCMUFan on October 17, 2023, 12:09:52 PM
I heard before the season began, Crean took the 2002-2003 team to the Louisiana Superdome.
Maybe Shaka should take the team to the State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona to get them familiar with playing there in April.
I like it
Quote from: cheebs09 on October 17, 2023, 08:55:02 AM
Are we forgetting Marcus Jackson bringing the ball up?
I'd like to. Please.
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 17, 2023, 11:21:49 AM
Uncle reeko dated a lady. One day, he saw a post on the Gram from some rando that his girl was with a new guy. She had told him nothing of this.
Later that day, she posts, "reeko was ok, but it's Jared, it's Jared!! (her new guy)"
reeko felt it was fine and had no issue
lol
Quote from: NCMUFan on October 17, 2023, 12:09:52 PM
I heard before the season began, Crean took the 2002-2003 team to the Louisiana Superdome.
Maybe Shaka should take the team to the State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona to get them familiar with playing there in April.
It was when Marquette played at Tulane (in New Orleans) in the CUSA season.
The closest we play to Phoenix this year is Omaha, which is 1,300 miles away.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 17, 2023, 01:51:49 PM
It was when Marquette played at Tulane (in New Orleans) in the CUSA season.
The closest we play to Phoenix this year is Omaha, which is 1,300 miles away.
It's on the way to Oahu
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 17, 2023, 02:56:32 PM
It's on the way to Oahu
They could stop on the way back and have thanksgiving at Oso's
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 17, 2023, 12:07:08 PM
As much as people (including me) have made fun of it, in 2008 there was some legitimacy to the "It's Indiana...it's Indiana" explanation. I don't think Crean was necessarily a "Big Ten guy." It was Indiana.
Nah...he tried to leave for Illinois as well.
He did a TON for MU...still was an a$$ of a person...maybe that has changed...maybe MU is all he has. Shaka doesn't need my approval...but he certainly has proven to be trustworthy...so it's great that he wants to embrace former coaches/players.
So great to have a coach that wins without being an a$$.
Quote from: avid1010 on October 17, 2023, 03:31:42 PM
Nah...he tried to leave for Illinois as well.
He did a TON for MU...still was an a$$ of a person...maybe that has changed...maybe MU is all he has. Shaka doesn't need my approval...but he certainly has proven to be trustworthy...so it's great that he wants to embrace former coaches/players.
So great to have a coach that wins without being an a$$.
That you know of
Quote from: swoopem on October 17, 2023, 03:26:23 PM
They could stop on the way back and have thanksgiving at Oso's
Or the Howard's, but they would starve because Markus would not pass them anything.
Quote from: lawdog77 on October 17, 2023, 04:00:02 PM
Or the Howard's, but they would starve because Markus would not pass them anything.
Well done!
Quote from: lawdog77 on October 17, 2023, 04:00:02 PM
Or the Howard's, but they would starve because Markus would not pass them anything.
That was good.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 16, 2023, 07:48:48 PM
I hate him. I've hated every coach since Al quit. As a Marquette fan, I find great joy in hating coaches, players, media, the university, athletic department and quite frankly other fans. Hate drives my fandom
Al quit also, just remember that. Should have died with a whistle in his mouth punching his players in the face.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 18, 2023, 02:20:09 PM
Al quit also, just remember that. Should have died with a whistle in his mouth punching his players in the face.
He owed it me to me to keep coaching unless he started losing