Does it make me a bad person to say I'd prefer Bill Raftery doing the color commentary for our games rather than Sarah Kustok? Where were Bardo or Simpkins?
Kustock works in NY and Simpkins (and I think Bardo) in Chicago. They aren't flying them to NY for a midweek game.
And I thought she was fine.
She was fine. Better than Dickie, but that's a low bar.
I thought she was fine. My only complaint tonight is 'Ighodory'.
Sarah Kustok's life story is very interesting.
She definitely passes the eye test.
I thought they did a good job. Not great but good.
For an NBA analyst she was more than fine. Was just surprised to see her calling a college game.
She belongs in the kitchen
If want credibility never say 'where was simpkins' again.
Announcers were fine other than not well prepared on names
Play by play guy was awful. My daughter was less than impressed by color commentator. Said she talked a lot but didn't say anything.
That being said, I prefer nails on a chalk board over Dickie.
Nah, barefoot and pregnant, hey?
Turned sound off for 2nd half,and everything's was fine
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 03, 2023, 08:12:55 PM
If want credibility never say 'where was simpkins' again.
Announcers were fine other than not well prepared on names
I specifically included Simpkins to make my point. But seriously, I when Raftery calls ours games and we usually do very well in those as well.
Quote from: tower912 on January 03, 2023, 08:10:41 PM
I thought she was fine. My only complaint tonight is 'Ighodory'.
Kustok never mispronounced Oso's name.
It was Simms. Repeatedly.
I know. She was fine. I was complaining about the other one.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 03, 2023, 08:11:58 PM
I thought they did a good job. Not great but good.
You did? That was textbook shaka cliche's they learned in limited pregame conversations interrupted by mispronunciation and incorrect name calling.
Called Ross, "Jones" twice. Classic 3rd/4th team.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 03, 2023, 08:17:01 PM
You did? That was textbook shaka cliche's they learned in limited pregame conversations interrupted by mispronunciation and incorrect name calling.
Called Ross, "Jones" twice. Classic 3rd/4th team.
I agree with you here.
Quote from: DoctorV on January 03, 2023, 08:11:21 PM
Sarah Kustok's life story is very interesting.
She definitely passes the eye test.
Wow
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 03, 2023, 08:17:01 PM
You did? That was textbook shaka cliche's they learned in limited pregame conversations interrupted by mispronunciation and incorrect name calling.
Called Ross, "Jones" twice. Classic 3rd/4th team.
I mean yeah. That's what they are. What are you expecting on a 5:30 game on a Tuesday in January?
Quote from: barfolomew on January 03, 2023, 08:16:08 PM
Kustok never mispronounced Oso's name.
It was Simms. Repeatedly.
To be fair, the Villanova broadcast kept calling O-Max "Prospect"...even after he corrected himself once.
If we keep winning, we should ge the A team announcers.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 03, 2023, 08:19:07 PM
I mean yeah. That's what they are. What are you expecting on a 5:30 game on a Tuesday in January?
It's not too much to ask for the announcers to know the names of the players.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 03, 2023, 08:19:07 PM
I mean yeah. That's what they are. What are you expecting on a 5:30 game on a Tuesday in January?
The sucky 3rd to 4th team.....which they were. Stop trying to make them anything more.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 03, 2023, 08:22:27 PM
The sucky 3rd to 4th team.....which they were. Stop trying to make them anything more.
??? I'm not. I merely said Kustok was fine.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 03, 2023, 08:24:07 PM
??? I'm not. I merely said Kustok was fine.
She was adequate. Timms was terrible. Collectively, they were poor.
Quote from: DoctorV on January 03, 2023, 08:11:21 PM
Sarah Kustok's life story is very interesting.
She definitely passes the eye test.
If the eye test is required, they should definitely fire Raftery.
Quote from: warriorchick on January 03, 2023, 08:32:27 PM
If the eye test is required, they should definitely fire Raftery. And most of the male analysts TBH.
Exactly...stupid comment.
Quote from: DoctorV on January 03, 2023, 08:11:21 PM
Sarah Kustok's life story is very interesting.
She definitely passes the eye test.
Since you "teased" the lifestyle angle, I checked the Wikipedia on her.
WOW.
lifestory
Quote from: DoctorV on January 03, 2023, 08:11:21 PM
Sarah Kustok's life story is very interesting.
She definitely passes the eye test.
Keep it in your pants doc
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on January 03, 2023, 08:40:46 PM
lifestory
I was going to thank you for correcting me and teaching me something dick-the-dribbler, but a very in depth (3 minute) google search shows me that it can be either one or two words, or life-story
Quote from: panda on January 03, 2023, 08:45:13 PM
Keep it in your pants doc
I decided to wear shorts tonight
As a team, they were pretty bad. That, combined with the terrible camera work and camera shot cuts, made this a frustrating game to watch.
Long time Dave Sims fan. Great at football, basketball, and baseball. Had a terrific talk show on WFAN with Ed Coleman. Who cares if he mispronounces a name.
Quote from: DoctorV on January 03, 2023, 08:48:49 PM
I was going to thank you for correcting me and teaching me something dick-the-dribbler, but a very in depth (3 minute) google search shows me that it can be either one or two words, or life-story
Oh no, Doc, I was correcting myself. I originally and mistakenly said "lifeSTYLE" when I meant to say "lifeSTORY.
In any event, I would bet that none of us has a story like that to tell.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on January 03, 2023, 08:58:32 PM
Oh no, Doc, I was correcting myself. I originally and mistakenly said "lifeSTYLE" when I meant to say "lifeSTORY.
In any event, I would bet that none of us has a story like that to tell.
Yea it's intense.
Her and her brother went to one of the rival local high schools as me, both were great athletes.
Most intense part of it all, from what I recall, was that Sarah took dads side during the entire thing while her brother did not.
Quote from: DoctorV on January 03, 2023, 09:12:11 PM
Yea it's intense.
Her and her brother went to one of the rival local high schools as me, both were great athletes.
Most intense part of it all, from what I recall, was that Sarah took dads side during the entire thing while her brother did not.
Crazy stuff.
Sims was once doing a TV call in show in New York with Bart Starr . Guy called up and complained to Starr that he didn't hand off to Chuck Mercein and let him score the winning touchdown in the Ice Bowl.
Bart did a hamina hamina until he broke into a big grin and said "Chuck is that you?" realizing that Sims and Mercein had set him up.
Quote from: Mutaman on January 03, 2023, 09:30:04 PM
Sims was once doing a TV call in show in New York with Bart Starr
You mean Brent Stir?
Quote from: Fred Garvin on January 03, 2023, 08:14:18 PM
Turned sound off for 2nd half,and everything's was fine
That move might have helped us win!
Quote from: Daniel on January 03, 2023, 09:36:44 PM
That move might have helped us win!
Whatever it takes! Two straight wins on campus bandboxes. Fiserv will feel like a football stadium after these two games.
Quote from: MU82 on January 03, 2023, 09:31:42 PM
You mean Brent Stir?
Ah even Ray Scott got a name wrong once in awhile. Even Harry.
Quote from: Mutaman on January 03, 2023, 08:57:01 PM
Long time Dave Sims fan. Great at football, basketball, and baseball. Had a terrific talk show on WFAN with Ed Coleman. Who cares if he mispronounces a name.
Sims is my second favorite baseball announcer (after Len Kasper). He was fine last night.
Where was Sims' producer the whole game? Announcers wear earpieces and they are constantly receiving information. There were plenty of long timeouts, as well as halftime. It's hard to believe that nobody at Fox Sports told him to stop staying Iggadori.
Quote from: MUDPT on January 04, 2023, 06:11:01 AM
Sims is my second favorite baseball announcer (after Len Kasper). He was fine last night.
Another vote for MU alum Len Kasper.
It's weird to me that during a timeout, that Kustok doesn't correct Simms on Oso name. He had it correct at times, then went back to saying it incorrect. Weird.
Quote from: Mutaman on January 03, 2023, 09:30:04 PM
Sims was once doing a TV call in show in New York with Bart Starr . Guy called up and complained to Starr that he didn't hand off to Chuck Mercein and let him score the winning touchdown in the Ice Bowl.
Bart did a hamina hamina until he broke into a big grin and said "Chuck is that you?" realizing that Sims and Mercein had set him up.
Boy did he stink when he played for the Giants. Goes to the Packers and becomes a good/relatively phenomenal running back. It showed me that a running back is only as good as his offensive line.
Maybe I'm just worn down by Dickie that I was more annoyed by this this team. Had to keep reminding myself that this is what you get from the super-emergency quarterback level team. Makes you appreciate just how good the top teams are.
She wasn't bad. She wasn't good. She was OK, but no Doris Burke.
Simms, as usual, sucked.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 04, 2023, 08:50:59 AM
Boy did he stink when he played for the Giants. Goes to the Packers and becomes a good/relatively phenomenal running back. It showed me that a running back is only as good as his offensive line.
Brother Warrior:
Chuck Mercein had a wonderful game in the Ice Bowl. Especially on the last drive.
He was good but certainly not phenomenal. In fact, he didn't play two weeks later in the Super Bowl against Oakland. Ben Wilson started at fullback and got virtually all the snaps in the game.
Mercein was a great man as well. I believe he may have been signed by the Washington Commanders when coach Lombardi was there for his year, but never played.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 04, 2023, 08:41:41 AM
It's weird to me that during a timeout, that Kustok doesn't correct Simms on Oso name. He had it correct at times, then went back to saying it incorrect. Weird.
Its weird to me that they know the player names of the other teams we play but not ours; and here we are 4-1 in conference and still the studio guys still are not convinced we're a good team.
EVERY SINGLE GAME IS ON TV. This is the cost.
I'll pay the cost to see EVERY SINGLE GAME ON TV.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 04, 2023, 09:03:18 AM
Its weird to me that they know the player names of the other teams we play but not ours; and here we are 4-1 in conference and still the studio guys still are not convinced we're a good team.
Anti-Marquette conspiracy strikes again! It's rigged!
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 04, 2023, 08:50:59 AM
Boy did he stink when he played for the Giants. Goes to the Packers and becomes a good/relatively phenomenal running back. It showed me that a running back is only as good as his offensive line.
"Relatively phenomenal?"
Even if you include the playoffs in 1967, he played in seven games and rushed for 89 yards. He ranked seventh on the team in rushing behind even Bart Starr. He was no better the next season.
Do other fan bases bases this much about the announcers? We seem to have an inordinate amount of angst over the quality of announcing in our games
We are lucky we are living at a time when almost every Marquette game is accessible everywhere in the U.S. with a standard cable subscription (Spectrum and others). If it weren't for Al McGuire in the 1970's and his connections to TVS, those outside of Milwaukee TV coverage would have never seen Marquette. I was lucky to see 3 or 4 national games because of Marquette's presence at that time, so I will never complain about TV coverage. If you don't like the announcers, mute them.
Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on January 04, 2023, 09:07:47 AM
Do other fan bases bases this much about the announcers? We seem to have an inordinate amount of angst over the quality of announcing in our games
Maybe it's just me, but outside of a couple of instances a game, I rarely remember ANYTHING any of these people say good or bad. I honestly didn't even know they were mispronouncing Oso's name until I read it here.
Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on January 04, 2023, 09:07:47 AM
Do other fan bases bases this much about the announcers? We seem to have an inordinate amount of angst over the quality of announcing in our games
Good announcers improve the experience of watching a game, and bad announcers (especially horrible ones) can detract from it. Dickey Simpkins, for me, is unwatchable; I have to turn the volume way down. Pete Gillen is pretty much there too. And no, we're not the only ones; reddit, Deadspin and others are filled with angst-filled takes on announcing. There are entire sites set up to track awful announcers (including awfulannouncing.com).
Last night's duo, aside from the dozens of Iggadoris, were fine. It was even comical after awhile. Shoulda been playing a drinking game (though we all woulda been sloshed).
Gotta run and get my tin foil to protect me from the Iggadori/Travis Kolek/Devon Gardner conspiracy.
Quote from: TedBaxter on January 04, 2023, 09:12:39 AM
We are lucky we are living at a time when almost every Marquette game is accessible everywhere in the U.S. with a standard cable subscription (Spectrum and others). If it weren't for Al McGuire in the 1970's and his connections to TVS, those outside of Milwaukee TV coverage would have never seen Marquette. I was lucky to see 3 or 4 national games because of Marquette's presence at that time, so I will never complain about TV coverage. If you don't like the announcers, mute them.
Totally agree.
I was mad at the announcers when they kept praising Soriano for a great athletic dunk and didn't mention he got open by throwing Stevie to half court.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 04, 2023, 09:21:40 AM
I was mad at the announcers when they kept praising Soriano for a great athletic dunk and didn't mention he got open by throwing because Stevie flopped to half court.
FIFY
Even Ronaldo thought that was bad.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 04, 2023, 09:03:18 AM
Its weird to me that they know the player names of the other teams we play but not ours; and here we are 4-1 in conference and still the studio guys still are not convinced we're a good team.
I think the most likely explanation for this is that the announcers are pretty regional and probably called other SJU games.
I recall being pretty put-off by the Providence announcers and how much they seemed to favor Providence (even my daughter noticed and commented). Then at our next home game, I noticed that the announcers seemed pretty pro-MU. It seems that FS1 announcers tend to be more familiar with the home team, but maybe I'm wrong about that.
When there are bad announcers , I turn the volume down and put on Homer and Tony Smith
That said I am a big fan of Simpkins and Bardo. Simpkins hypes MU quite a bit. He is trying to created some excitement with his style. .I think some times Bardo has had a few pops before the broadcast, which keeps things interesting.
All announcers and all CBB podcasts hate Marquette.
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 04, 2023, 09:47:08 AM
When there are bad announcers , I turn the volume down and put on Homer and Tony Smith
That said I am a big fan of Simpkins and Bardo. Simpkins hypes MU quite a bit. He is trying to created some excitement with his style. .I think some times Bardo has had a few pops before the broadcast, which keeps things interesting.
Maybe I should do this. I am so tired of motormouth announcers who say so many words but offer so little insight. And when they do not bother to tell you who the foul is on when it could be two different guys (the cameras are not always on the guy who got called right after the whistle) I am really pissed.
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She wasn't bad. She wasn't good. She was OK, but no Doris Burke.
Simms, as usual, sucked.
I didn't have a major problem with either announcer. Then again, I don't mind Bardo, Simpkins, or Gillen (I draw the line at Lappas)
Two minor things about Kustok bothered me.
1. It seems like she deepens her voice during games a la Elizabeth Holmes. Maybe that's what you have to to be heard in a game environment, but after Theranos there's something offputting about it.
2. The outros to commercial breaks came across as a poor attempt to mimic Raftery's overly excited half-grunt style "...THEREs Omax DOING his job MAKIN buckets...." It comes across naturally for Raftery and sounds forced and contrived coming from Kustok.
Quote from: wadesworld link=topic=63967.msg1497367#msg1497367 date=
All announcers and all CBB podcasts hate Marquette.
Except Fanta.
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 04, 2023, 09:47:08 AM
I am a big fan of Simpkins and Bardo. Simpkins hypes MU quite a bit. He is trying to created some excitement with his style.
Bardo's not bad. Knows hoops. He just says, "I tell you what" too often and calls everything "elite." Makes me laugh more than annoys me.
Dickey is brutally bad; have to just about kill the volume. I'm glad he has at least one big fan, though.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 04, 2023, 09:21:40 AM
I was mad at the announcers when they kept praising Soriano for a great athletic dunk and didn't mention he got open by throwing Stevie to half court.
Yes. Another example of two people not being good at their job.
So glad when the announcers keep telling us how many possessions it will take for the trailing team to catch up near the end. :o Also, when a trailing team has the ball with :20 on the clock and is down three- "They don't have to get a three here". Technically correct, but umm...My favorite was one game when on the last possession of the 1st half (cannot remember who was playing) when the announcer said (and I am NOT making this up!) "they can have the last shot...if they want it. ;D
Raferty;s "get those puppies organized" is a strange expression. Anyone have an idea of its origins?
Possibly Hush Puppies shoes? Get your feet/shoes/Hush Puppies/puppies organized.
Quote from: tower912 on January 04, 2023, 12:02:36 PM
Possibly Hush Puppies shoes? Get your feet/shoes/Hush Puppies/puppies organized.
That works.
I don't know. However, he is of an age and background that it would be a possibility.
I think all announcers hate every team I cheer for and I complain a lot about them on social media, to friends and family.
I also don't like how all announcers seem to favor teams I hate and players I hate. I'm pretty sure ESPN, Fox, NBC and CBS all hate the teams I cheer for, too.
And don't even get me started on how stories about my favorite teams always get buried in the newspaper
Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 04, 2023, 09:37:40 AM
I think the most likely explanation for this is that the announcers are pretty regional and probably called other SJU games.
I recall being pretty put-off by the Providence announcers and how much they seemed to favor Providence (even my daughter noticed and commented). Then at our next home game, I noticed that the announcers seemed pretty pro-MU. It seems that FS1 announcers tend to be more familiar with the home team, but maybe I'm wrong about that.
Your correct. Jeff Levering is the Brewers TV/Radio guy. So, he know MU, UW, DePaul, Northwestern well. Bardo does midwest games becasue he is a midwest guy to just name two guys.
Quote from: tower912 on January 04, 2023, 12:02:36 PM
Possibly Hush Puppies shoes? Get your feet/shoes/Hush Puppies/puppies organized.
Well here is a piece I found
" How did the word 'dogs' come to mean 'feet'? In 1913, a journalist for the New York Evening, by the name of "T.A. Dorgan", was well known for rhyming slang, published the word 'dogs' as a citation for his feet. From that point forward the word 'dogs', has been used as slang for feet. So now, a century later, after a long hard day on our feet we may say, "My dogs are barking!", in reference to 'our feet are killing us"
So not a far stretch from dogs to puppies!
Quote from: tower912 on January 04, 2023, 12:02:36 PM
Possibly Hush Puppies shoes? Get your feet/shoes/Hush Puppies/puppies organized.
I think it refers to a bra.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 04, 2023, 12:14:27 PM
I think all announcers hate every team I cheer for and I complain a lot about them on social media, to friends and family.
Yo, what's your twitter handle? I want to follow you. Are you on reddit and farmersonly.com too?
Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 04, 2023, 09:37:40 AM
I think the most likely explanation for this is that the announcers are pretty regional and probably called other SJU games.
I recall being pretty put-off by the Providence announcers and how much they seemed to favor Providence (even my daughter noticed and commented). Then at our next home game, I noticed that the announcers seemed pretty pro-MU. It seems that FS1 announcers tend to be more familiar with the home team, but maybe I'm wrong about that.
Gillen is absolutely terrible. He's the only guy I actively dislike.
Dickey is bad but at least he doesn't take himself seriously and knows he's over the top.
Quote from: tower912 on January 04, 2023, 12:02:36 PM
Possibly Hush Puppies shoes? Get your feet/shoes/Hush Puppies/puppies organized.
I'm pretty sure that's it, since he uses it to means get your feet settled before making a move.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 04, 2023, 08:50:59 AM
Boy did he stink when he played for the Giants. Goes to the Packers and becomes a good/relatively phenomenal running back. It showed me that a running back is only as good as his offensive line.
Like a lot of Lombardi's guys, Chuck was very successful after football. Yale graduate and a Wall Street guy.
On the Packers famous last 68 yard drive in the Ice Bowl, Mercein gained 34 yards rushing and receiving.
Quote from: TedBaxter on January 04, 2023, 09:12:39 AM
We are lucky we are living at a time when almost every Marquette game is accessible everywhere in the U.S. with a standard cable subscription (Spectrum and others). If it weren't for Al McGuire in the 1970's and his connections to TVS, those outside of Milwaukee TV coverage would have never seen Marquette. I was lucky to see 3 or 4 national games because of Marquette's presence at that time, so I will never complain about TV coverage. If you don't like the announcers, mute them.
Hm, interesting line of thinking and I agree we're lucky to live in such times for this reason.
However! The broadcasting companies and universities are lucky to exist in a world where they can provide their product to a national audience so easily. After all, they're the ones making $$ off of the fans and advertisers. If they want to compete and keep as many viewers and fans as they can, they should provide the best product they can (given various constraints).
It's a two way street here! The only tool I have in my arsenal to affect change is to whine about it online. At least that's all I feel I can do... because other than turning the game off, I don't feel I have much recourse.
Quote from: The Lens on January 04, 2023, 09:03:24 AM
EVERY SINGLE GAME IS ON TV. This is the cost.
I'll pay the cost to see EVERY SINGLE GAME ON TV.
I love the fact that I can watch nearly every game. When I was at MU during the Dukiet/O'Neill era, we were on national tv once or twice a season. I would rather see the games with bad announcers than not see the games at all, obviously.
My point was that I'd rather have crew's like Enberg/McGuire/Packer or Verne/Raftery calling our games than last night's crew.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 04, 2023, 07:47:04 PM
I love the fact that I can watch nearly every game. When I was at MU during the Dukiet/O'Neill era, we were on national tv once or twice a season. I would rather see the games with bad announcers than not see the games at all, obviously.
My point was that I'd rather have crew's like Enberg/McGuire/Packer or Verne/Raftery calling our games than last night's crew.
I remember when the ESPN or network broadcast would begin, and the BC would flash it on the jumbotron so the students could start yelling. Deane days.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 04, 2023, 07:47:04 PM
I love the fact that I can watch nearly every game. When I was at MU during the Dukiet/O'Neill era, we were on national tv once or twice a season.
I'm the same era as you. For quite a few years I was only able to see maybe 3-5 games per year.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 04, 2023, 09:37:40 AM
I think the most likely explanation for this is that the announcers are pretty regional and probably called other SJU games.
I recall being pretty put-off by the Providence announcers and how much they seemed to favor Providence (even my daughter noticed and commented). Then at our next home game, I noticed that the announcers seemed pretty pro-MU. It seems that FS1 announcers tend to be more familiar with the home team, but maybe I'm wrong about that.
First game all year Sarah Kostak has worked.
Last night was Dave Simms 3rd game. He did a game at St. John's and at Providence. Simms have two more this week.
Tom McCarthy, Steve Lappas was a CBSSN did for MU/PC.
I think announcer voice just rise with the roar of the home crowd if anything.
Prov Uconn, Sims again. But where's the hottie?
It is very predictable that when women call or commentate on our games, a thread like this begins.
Get used to it, gang. As women become more prominent in sports, more and more women will be involved in broadcasting our games. It's coming and there's a lot more behind Beth Mowins, Sarah Kustok, Doris Burke and others.
Heck, in college football, Heather Dinich is one of the best commentators/reporters in the country!
Quote from: dgies9156 on January 05, 2023, 06:48:09 AM
It is very predictable that when women call or commentate on our games, a thread like this begins.
Get used to it, gang. As women become more prominent in sports, more and more women will be involved in broadcasting our games. It's coming and there's a lot more behind Beth Mowins, Sarah Kustok, Doris Burke and others.
Heck, in college football, Heather Dinich is one of the best commentators/reporters in the country!
100%
Quote from: dgies9156 on January 05, 2023, 06:48:09 AM
It is very predictable that when women call or commentate on our games, a thread like this begins.
Get used to it, gang. As women become more prominent in sports, more and more women will be involved in broadcasting our games. It's coming and there's a lot more behind Beth Mowins, Sarah Kustok, Doris Burke and others.
Heck, in college football, Heather Dinich is one of the best commentators/reporters in the country!
Exactly so.
Quote from: dgies9156 on January 05, 2023, 06:48:09 AM
It is very predictable that when women call or commentate on our games, a thread like this begins.
Get used to it, gang. As women become more prominent in sports, more and more women will be involved in broadcasting our games. It's coming and there's a lot more behind Beth Mowins, Sarah Kustok, Doris Burke and others.
Heck, in college football, Heather Dinich is one of the best commentators/reporters in the country!
Yep. And let's not stoop to calling women stuff like "the hottie." Really a poor look.
Agree on all of it.
When do we start a thread about women refs?
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 05, 2023, 08:09:59 AM
When do we start a thread about women refs?
There is only one.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-12-06/meet-crystal-hogan-only-female-official-di-mens-college
Most of the criticism was leveled at the play by play guy in this thread. He repeatedly got names wrong, described plays wrong.
So, it is interesting that it is perfectly okay to criticize a male, but not a woman.
BTW, Doris Burke and Beth Mowins are among the best in the business. All announcers, male and female should rightfully be able to be compared to them.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 05, 2023, 08:14:55 AM
There is only one.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-12-06/meet-crystal-hogan-only-female-official-di-mens-college
NBA / NFL too many women refs for male sports in my opinion
Quote from: pbiflyer on January 05, 2023, 08:19:42 AM
So, it is interesting that it is perfectly okay to criticize a male, but not a woman.
Yeah, no one said this.
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 05, 2023, 08:09:59 AM
When do we start a thread about women refs?
Wouldn't happen if Al was alive
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 05, 2023, 08:26:02 AM
Yeah, no one said this.
Exactly. Some people just see what they want to see.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 05, 2023, 08:14:55 AM
There is only one.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-12-06/meet-crystal-hogan-only-female-official-di-mens-college
#FakeNews #Lies
This is false. It's 2023, not 2018.
Doris Burke was good, but to me she's past her prime. She fawns over the stars way too much now. ESPN should be embarrassed about showing how she went and gave Deuce Tatum a hug during a TV timeout during the Christmas Day game. Is Tatum the only person to have a child in the NBA? Or is he just the only one who uses his child to get more attention than he already gets?
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 05, 2023, 08:26:02 AM
Yeah, no one said this.
Living up to your current screen name! Nicely done.
Quote from: pbiflyer on January 05, 2023, 08:19:42 AM
Most of the criticism was leveled at the play by play guy in this thread. He repeatedly got names wrong, described plays wrong.
So, it is interesting that it is perfectly okay to criticize a male, but not a woman.
BTW, Doris Burke and Beth Mowins are among the best in the business. All announcers, male and female should rightfully be able to be compared to them.
Holy Card pictures need to be taken and narratives must be maintained.
Ian Eagle and Jim Spanarkel are by far the best college hoops announcing duo. After that I think there's a lot of criticism one could shell out.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 05, 2023, 09:08:45 AM
Ian Eagle and Jim Spanarkel are by far the best college hoops announcing duo. After that I think there's a lot of criticism one could shell out.
I think a lot people on Scoop think they are the Ian Eagle or Jim Sparnarkel of their fields...but are actually the Dickie Simpkins and Pete Gillens of them.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 05, 2023, 09:08:45 AM
Ian Eagle and Jim Spanarkel are by far the best college hoops announcing duo. After that I think there's a lot of criticism one could shell out.
I like Ian Eagle as well. It helps that he announced 2 dramatic MU NCAA tournament wins (Davidson and butler).
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 05, 2023, 09:08:45 AM
Ian Eagle and Jim Spanarkel are by far the best college hoops announcing duo. After that I think there's a lot of criticism one could shell out.
Yeah, but are we certain they were born with male genitalia, hey?
Isn't 82 the scoop expert on women announcers and journalists?
#stirsthepot
That was too easy. In before the lock!
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 05, 2023, 09:43:13 AM
Yeah, but are we certain they were born with male genitalia, hey?
Meat eaters spend a lot of time worrying about wieners
Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on January 05, 2023, 09:18:32 AM
I think a lot people on Scoop think they are the Ian Eagle or Jim Sparnarkel of their fields...but are actually the Dickie Simpkins and Pete Gillens of them.
Gillen is horrendous. I also think Grant Hill is abysmal as well. Anderson is good and Harlan has his moments. I think most of the entire announcing roster after Eagle/Spanarkel should be completely revamped or tossed. Doesn't matter what gender .
I hear women announcers don't get their street plowed as fast after a snow storm.
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 05, 2023, 10:03:53 AM
Isn't 82 the scoop expert on women announcers and journalists?
#stirsthepot
That was too easy. In before the lock!
Only if they are "sexpots".
Hopefully 82 can this thread shut down as well. I have the over/under on threads blocked in 2023 because of 82 at 46.
How many male announcers or officials are calling/officiating women's sewing events? Or sammich making contests?
Kustok is a good basketball analyst who offers solid insight.
I'm having dinner with Jason Benetti early next month if anyone wants to pass along their Fox Sports college announcer rankings.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 05, 2023, 12:17:54 PM
I'm having dinner with Jason Benetti early next month if anyone wants to pass along their Fox Sports college announcer rankings.
I am a big fan of Benetti. He's outstanding and my apologies for neglecting to mention him here. Fox is lucky to have him and he's clearly really good at multiple sports.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 05, 2023, 12:27:44 PM
I am a big fan of Benetti. He's outstanding and my apologies for neglecting to mention him here. Fox is lucky to have him and he's clearly really good at multiple sports.
Muggsy trying to get invited to dinner.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 05, 2023, 12:17:54 PM
I'm having dinner with Jason Benetti early next month if anyone wants to pass along their Fox Sports college announcer rankings.
Ask why he hates Marquette
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 05, 2023, 09:43:13 AM
Yeah, but are we certain they were born with male genitalia, hey?
The f*ck is wrong with this guy?
Quote from: Goose on January 05, 2023, 10:11:03 AM
Hopefully 82 can this thread shut down as well. I have the over/under on threads blocked in 2023 because of 82 at 46.
Start a thread to keep track
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 05, 2023, 12:41:29 PM
The f*ck is wrong with this guy?
He is an eater of meat.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 05, 2023, 12:17:54 PM
I'm having dinner with Jason Benetti early next month if anyone wants to pass along their Fox Sports college announcer rankings.
One of the best--reallt enjoy listening to him. Super impressive announcer. I hope he continues to thrive and get noticed for his excellent work.
Can we bring Pat Hughes back now that he's the Ford Frick winner?
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 05, 2023, 12:38:04 PM
Muggsy trying to get invited to dinner.
Just tell me where to show up. :)
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 05, 2023, 01:23:58 PM
Just tell me where to show up. :)
Offer to pick up the tab and you will probably get an invite.
And a booster seat.
The world is not a patch in our jeans, guys
Quote from: tower912 on January 05, 2023, 12:49:45 PM
He is an eater of meat.
Nah, I bet he swallows, #deepthroat.
Before this thread sinks to the bottom of the page, your thoughts on what you like and what you do not like about announcers? I am admittedly sour on many of them, so take that into account.
Likes:
A quick analysis squeezed in when there is a stoppage of play. I especially like it with a sharpie pen showing how and why a play worked so well or what a team is doing that is messing up their opponents.
Announcers who are NOT motormouths. Raferty is my favorite. Offer insight, not blather. If you have nothing of value to say, shut up!
Realists who do not say (with :30 left in the 2nd half) "There's plenty of time left!". I get that they should not call a game too early.
Dislikes:
Telling us how many possessions the trailing team needs to win the game at the end. We can figure that out ourselves, thank you.
Saying "They do not need a three here" when the trailing team is down by 3-5 with about :30 seconds left. Technically, that's true, but let's get real.
Constantly critiquing the refs, as if the announcer's pontification on calls has any bearing whatsoever on the decisions. Focus on the game, dammit! That's why you are paid the Big Bucks.
good idea scooper-
i like announcers who aren't wearing the other teams jersey under their shirt
vitale can be entertaining but he knows everybody of course...i just had lunch with...always someone from duke or UNC or kansas or...
why doesn't he have lunch with someone from south dakota state?
however, he's not going to be along for long or have the energy we are used to so we should appreciate him and what he has done for b-ball
Dislike: Announcers that state the obvious.
"Well, if this team [that is currently losing] is going to win this game, they are going to have to put some more points on the board!"
How insightful!
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 06, 2023, 08:18:23 AM
good idea scooper-
i like announcers who aren't wearing the other teams jersey under their shirt
vitale can be entertaining but he knows everybody of course...i just had lunch with...always someone from duke or UNC or kansas or...
why doesn't he have lunch with someone from south dakota state?
however, he's not going to be along for long or have the energy we are used to so we should appreciate him and what he has done for b-ball
I think Vitale
can be entertaining in small doses, but he wears on me quickly. As I pointed out, I'm hell on announcers, so take that into account.
Vitale is a good example of announcers who make it all about themselves. Bill Walton is another guy who
can be entertaining but after a while? No thank you. Especially with his effin' "conference of champions" schtick.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 06, 2023, 08:08:26 AM
Before this thread sinks to the bottom of the page, your thoughts on what you like and what you do not like about announcers? I am admittedly sour on many of them, so take that into account.
Likes:
A quick analysis squeezed in when there is a stoppage of play. I especially like it with a sharpie pen showing how and why a play worked so well or what a team is doing that is messing up their opponents.
Announcers who are NOT motormouths. Raferty is my favorite. Offer insight, not blather. If you have nothing of value to say, shut up!
Realists who do not say (with :30 left in the 2nd half) "There's plenty of time left!". I get that they should not call a game too early.
Dislikes:
Telling us how many possessions the trailing team needs to win the game at the end. We can figure that out ourselves, thank you.
Saying "They do not need a three here" when the trailing team is down by 3-5 with about :30 seconds left. Technically, that's true, but let's get real.
Constantly critiquing the refs, as if the announcer's pontification on calls has any bearing whatsoever on the decisions. Focus on the game, dammit! That's why you are paid the Big Bucks.
Not a fan of using the sharpie because it covers up that part of the screen the rest of the game.
My rating scale for analysts is broken into Bread and Circuses (RIP James Ward). Vitale and Walton are all Circus. Fran is Bread. Raf is a blend which is why he is the tops.
Billy was Bread and Al was a blend like Raf. If you cannot be a blend, be a Bread over Circus (that's you Dickey although Bardo has become stale Bread). Butch and Jordan are the emerging talents for me. I liked Lavin in the studio but he was not good in game.
And do your homework!
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 06, 2023, 09:31:47 AM
I think Vitale can be entertaining in small doses, but he wears on me quickly. As I pointed out, I'm hell on announcers, so take that into account.
Vitale is a good example of announcers who make it all about themselves.
Whenever the topic of MU comes up, Vitale is quick to point out that he (Detroit) beat Al & MU. He is as reticent to bring this up as John Kasich is to tell you that his father was a mailman.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 06, 2023, 10:13:27 AM
Whenever the topic of MU comes up, Vitale is quick to point out that he (Detroit) beat Al & MU. He is as reticent to bring this up as John Kasich is to tell you that his father was a mailman.
He mentions it every time, but he also loved Al and talks us up every time. He's also the only one I've heard that will still call us the Warriors on occasion, and he loved Otule when he was here and would talk about their eyes a lot. As long as he's not working a Duke or UNC game, he's fine in small doses.
Quote from: THRILLHO on January 06, 2023, 09:36:35 AM
Not a fan of using the sharpie because it covers up that part of the screen the rest of the game.
So buy a TV with a giant screen. And quit whining.
Dislikes:
1) Over-stating the obvious -- I loved George Thompson as a player and a person, but he was really really bad at doing this.
2) Know-Nothings -- Too often, we have both announcers and color commentators assigned to our games who really don't know our team. Many haven't taken the time to look at film, see what tendencies are and talk with Shaka and the players. Their aloofness is apparent in their commentary and in their lack of understanding of what's happening.
3) "I don't want to be heres" -- We don't see this too often but occasionally you get people whose attitude and lack of excitement suggest, "why am I here?"
4) Dick Vitale -- You ever love him or hate him! Vitale is exciting to listen to but he is all hype and no knowledge. He's a name-dropper extraordinaire. I question how much he knows about today's game.
Likes(d)
1) Al & Billy -- Obviously long gone but when Al and Billy were together, they were perfect. They knew the game. They wanted to be there and they were excited by it. With Dick Enberg as referee, they were the best college basketball trio ever.
2) Verne Lundquist -- Gosh was he good. Understated enthusiasm. The guy was and may still be a rock when it comes to NCAA basketball broadcasting. Really good in football too.
3) Respect -- Respect for the game means not talking over it. Letting people enjoy what's happening without talking and talking and even screaming. It's OK to be excited but let the viewers and listeners experience the moment, not the announcer's entertainment (why I hated Harry Carey and loved Vince Scully). My favorite lines were Jack Buck's simple, "go crazy folks, go crazy," or, when David Freese poked one in Game 6 of the World Series, "We will see you tomorrow night...." Another one was the late Ray Scott: "Starr, Dale, Touchdown!"
Some of my favorites:
Milo Hamilton
Vince Scully
Keith Jackson
Dick, Al & Billy
Ray Scott
Bob Uecker
Some of my least favorites
Howard Cosell
Dick Vitale
Harry Carey
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 06, 2023, 09:58:45 AM
My rating scale for analysts is broken into Bread and Circuses (RIP James Ward). Vitale and Walton are all Circus. Fran is Bread. Raf is a blend which is why he is the tops.
Billy was Bread and Al was a blend like Raf. If you cannot be a blend, be a Bread over Circus (that's you Dickey although Bardo has become stale Bread). Butch and Jordan are the emerging talents for me. I liked Lavin in the studio but he was not good in game.
And do your homework!
Amen to that! Oh, and
please do not butcher the pronunciation of the players' names. No more "Ighodory"
At the pro level I really enjoy Marques Johnson. He's engaging but also breaks stuff down. When he first got the Bucks job he would sit in with the analytics team to learn that aspect of their game prep.
Idea for announcers. Hire 11 one alum from each school in conference and pair them up. I'd love to listen to the banter when there's truly vested interest in the games and pot shots at each other especially if the alums were around the same age.
I miss Johnny Most.
When I lived in Boston, would listen to him even though I hated the Celtics. But his entertainment value had nothing to do with basketball knowledge. Worst homer ever (or best, depending on how you look at it).
Quote from: dgies9156 on January 06, 2023, 10:30:30 AM
Dislikes:
1) Over-stating the obvious -- I loved George Thompson as a player and a person, but he was really really bad at doing this.
2) Know-Nothings -- Too often, we have both announcers and color commentators assigned to our games who really don't know our team. Many haven't taken the time to look at film, see what tendencies are and talk with Shaka and the players. Their aloofness is apparent in their commentary and in their lack of understanding of what's happening.
3) "I don't want to be heres" -- We don't see this too often but occasionally you get people whose attitude and lack of excitement suggest, "why am I here?"
4) Dick Vitale -- You ever love him or hate him! Vitale is exciting to listen to but he is all hype and no knowledge. He's a name-dropper extraordinaire. I question how much he knows about today's game.
Likes(d)
1) Al & Billy -- Obviously long gone but when Al and Billy were together, they were perfect. They knew the game. They wanted to be there and they were excited by it. With Dick Enberg as referee, they were the best college basketball trio ever.
2) Verne Lundquist -- Gosh was he good. Understated enthusiasm. The guy was and may still be a rock when it comes to NCAA basketball broadcasting. Really good in football too.
3) Respect -- Respect for the game means not talking over it. Letting people enjoy what's happening without talking and talking and even screaming. It's OK to be excited but let the viewers and listeners experience the moment, not the announcer's entertainment (why I hated Harry Carey and loved Vince Scully). My favorite lines were Jack Buck's simple, "go crazy folks, go crazy," or, when David Freese poked one in Game 6 of the World Series, "We will see you tomorrow night...." Another one was the late Ray Scott: "Starr, Dale, Touchdown!"
Some of my favorites:
Milo Hamilton
Vince Scully
Keith Jackson
Dick, Al & Billy
Ray Scott
Bob Uecker
Some of my least favorites
Howard Cosell
Dick Vitale
Harry Carey
Really nice post dgies. Agree about Al and Billy. Howard Cosell had an annoying voice, so he was handicapped from the gate.
Musburger and another announcer whose name I have forgotten were calling a Cowboys game decades ago when Roger Staubach was QB. As Roger headed back to the line, the other guy said "Roger walks like a sissy." Dead silence, then
"What did you say?" "Roger walks like a sissy." Then one of the best zingers ever in sports announcing. "When you played football....did you wear a helmut?'
Marv Albert was the best basketball PBP announcer ever IMHO. Really good at football and hockey, too.
Always liked Mike Emrick for hockey. Kevin Harlan is outstanding for basketball, and quite good for football.
Pat Hughes has been a pleasure to listen to; his work with Santo, who was lovably terrible, was especially noteworthy.
Ian Eagle is excellent.
Analysts:
Spanarkel is about the best college hoops has. Bilas knows his stuff, but he sometimes suffers from "I'm smarter than everyone" syndrome. I'm always glad to see Brian Butch doing one of our games. Jim Jackson is solid. I think Raf is a little overrated -- tries too hard to belt out his next catchphrase, and makes a few too many non sequiturs referring to crapola that happened in freakin' 1972 -- but I'll definitely take him over most others.
Greg Olsen is outstanding; thought he'd be good but he's even exceeded my expectations. I think Fox would be insane to throw bazillions at Brady, when Olsen is already one of the best.
Johnny Miller was fun to listen to; he'd say anything and criticize anyone.
I know I'm leaving out lots of good PBP folks and analysts. As I said in an earlier post, the really good ones add to the quality of a broadcast.
Quote from: MU82 on January 06, 2023, 02:13:55 PM
Marv Albert was the best basketball PBP announcer ever IMHO. Really good at football and hockey, too.
Always liked Mike Emrick for hockey. Kevin Harlan is outstanding for basketball, and quite good for football.
Pat Hughes has been a pleasure to listen to; his work with Santo, who was lovably terrible, was especially noteworthy.
Ian Eagle is excellent.
Analysts:
Spanarkel is about the best college hoops has. Bilas knows his stuff, but he sometimes suffers from "I'm smarter than everyone" syndrome. I'm always glad to see Brian Butch doing one of our games. Jim Jackson is solid. I think Raf is a little overrated -- tries too hard to belt out his next catchphrase, and makes a few too many non sequiturs referring to crapola that happened in freakin' 1972 -- but I'll definitely take him over most others.
Greg Olsen is outstanding; thought he'd be good but he's even exceeded my expectations. I think Fox would be insane to throw bazillions at Brady, when Olsen is already one of the best.
Johnny Miller was fun to listen to; he'd say anything and criticize anyone.
I know I'm leaving out lots of good PBP folks and analysts. As I said in an earlier post, the really good ones add to the quality of a broadcast.
Olsen is awesome - Such an engaging guy and does a great job of picking apart the finer parts of the game in a succinct manner.
Quote from: dgies9156 on January 06, 2023, 10:30:30 AM
Dislikes:
1) Over-stating the obvious -- I loved George Thompson as a player and a person, but he was really really bad at doing this.
2) Know-Nothings -- Too often, we have both announcers and color commentators assigned to our games who really don't know our team. Many haven't taken the time to look at film, see what tendencies are and talk with Shaka and the players. Their aloofness is apparent in their commentary and in their lack of understanding of what's happening.
3) "I don't want to be heres" -- We don't see this too often but occasionally you get people whose attitude and lack of excitement suggest, "why am I here?"
4) Dick Vitale -- You ever love him or hate him! Vitale is exciting to listen to but he is all hype and no knowledge. He's a name-dropper extraordinaire. I question how much he knows about today's game.
Likes(d)
1) Al & Billy -- Obviously long gone but when Al and Billy were together, they were perfect. They knew the game. They wanted to be there and they were excited by it. With Dick Enberg as referee, they were the best college basketball trio ever.
2) Verne Lundquist -- Gosh was he good. Understated enthusiasm. The guy was and may still be a rock when it comes to NCAA basketball broadcasting. Really good in football too.
3) Respect -- Respect for the game means not talking over it. Letting people enjoy what's happening without talking and talking and even screaming. It's OK to be excited but let the viewers and listeners experience the moment, not the announcer's entertainment (why I hated Harry Carey and loved Vince Scully). My favorite lines were Jack Buck's simple, "go crazy folks, go crazy," or, when David Freese poked one in Game 6 of the World Series, "We will see you tomorrow night...." Another one was the late Ray Scott: "Starr, Dale, Touchdown!"
Some of my favorites:
Milo Hamilton
Vince Scully
Keith Jackson
Dick, Al & Billy
Ray Scott
Bob Uecker
Some of my least favorites
Howard Cosell
Dick Vitale
Harry Carey
Milo "The Jerk" Hamilton? That says it all about this post.
Benetti is the best, tell him not to leave the sox to be joe buck or whatever.
Quote from: Pepe Sylvia on January 06, 2023, 02:20:29 PM
Benetti is the best, tell him not to leave the sox to be joe buck or whatever.
1000% agree. I'm always excited when I see him listed for a national game. Just an awesome guy.
Always loved Ray Scott's descriptions of a play. Very succinct - on a defensive play, "Hanner, Davis, Nitschke... wow!"
"Bilas knows his stuff, but he sometimes suffers from "I'm smarter than everyone" syndrome."
What screen name does he post under here at scoop? 😳
Rocket Surgeon.
As some have said they are greatfull that every MU game lands on national TV. I fear being on ESPN, as I don't want Big East games being on ESPN+. The rights for Big 12 basketball for 2 years left of the current TV deal on ESPN. Many of their football and hoops games lands behind a payway of ESPN+. Tomorrow, Kansas at WVU & Kansas State at Baylor lands on ESPN+. Ehhh for many.
Can't wait for Big Ten fan outrage when they try to find Michigan State/Wisconsin or Purdue/Indiana when that game lands on Peacock.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 06, 2023, 03:04:21 PM
"Bilas knows his stuff, but he sometimes suffers from "I'm smarter than everyone" syndrome."
What screen name does he post under here at scoop? 😳
Goes by dozens of screen names, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 06, 2023, 04:00:49 PM
Goes by dozens of screen names, hey?
And probably have dental practices, hey?
Quote from: MU82 on January 06, 2023, 02:13:55 PM
Marv Albert was the best basketball PBP announcer ever IMHO. Really good at football and hockey, too.
Always liked Mike Emrick for hockey. Kevin Harlan is outstanding for basketball, and quite good for football.
Pat Hughes has been a pleasure to listen to; his work with Santo, who was lovably terrible, was especially noteworthy.
Ian Eagle is excellent.
Analysts:
Spanarkel is about the best college hoops has. Bilas knows his stuff, but he sometimes suffers from "I'm smarter than everyone" syndrome. I'm always glad to see Brian Butch doing one of our games. Jim Jackson is solid. I think Raf is a little overrated -- tries too hard to belt out his next catchphrase, and makes a few too many non sequiturs referring to crapola that happened in freakin' 1972 -- but I'll definitely take him over most others.
Greg Olsen is outstanding; thought he'd be good but he's even exceeded my expectations. I think Fox would be insane to throw bazillions at Brady, when Olsen is already one of the best.
Johnny Miller was fun to listen to; he'd say anything and criticize anyone.
I know I'm leaving out lots of good PBP folks and analysts. As I said in an earlier post, the really good ones add to the quality of a broadcast.
Agree completely about Marv Albert. The absolute best at calling a basketball game.
Kevin Harlan has a similar style to Marv so he's very good as well.
For an NCAA game, I'd take Verne over just about anyone. He's a true pro. Also, Verne called our wins over Kentucky in 94 and 2003.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 06, 2023, 03:13:32 PM
As some have said they are greatfull that every MU game lands on national TV. I fear being on ESPN, as I don't want Big East games being on ESPN+. The rights for Big 12 basketball for 2 years left of the current TV deal on ESPN. Many of their football and hoops games lands behind a payway of ESPN+. Tomorrow, Kansas at WVU & Kansas State at Baylor lands on ESPN+. Ehhh for many.
Can't wait for Big Ten fan outrage when they try to find Michigan State/Wisconsin or Purdue/Indiana when that game lands on Peacock.
All the more reason to go with ESPN, because those will end up with one streaming service, and it's the one that does sports streaming best. We could get a big payday from a Paramount, Peacock, or Apple partnership, but it'll make games harder to find for casual fans. As more and more cut the cord, I'd rather go with the best sports streamer.
Albert's toupee is a bad look. Probably a better announcer in a bra snd panties, aina?
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 07, 2023, 05:07:32 AM
All the more reason to go with ESPN, because those will end up with one streaming service, and it's the one that does sports streaming best. We could get a big payday from a Paramount, Peacock, or Apple partnership, but it'll make games harder to find for casual fans. As more and more cut the cord, I'd rather go with the best sports streamer.
I hear you on the streaming part. Yet, it would it be better for the Big East Conference to just stick with FOX Sports with every game on national TV?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 06, 2023, 03:04:21 PM
"Bilas knows his stuff, but he sometimes suffers from "I'm smarter than everyone" syndrome."
Agree on Bilas. Enjoy his insights but I find his tone to be "I am right, you are wrong,"
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 07, 2023, 06:01:12 AM
Albert's toupee is a bad look. Probably a better announcer in a bra snd panties, aina?
Many women enjoy his biting commentary I've heard.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 07, 2023, 06:32:54 AM
I hear you on the streaming part. Yet, it would it be better for the Big East Conference to just stick with FOX Sports with every game on national TV?
I'm not sure that will be an option. With the Big 12 & Big 10 already having a lot of content there, they may not need another CBB option, and being the third choice league isn't optimal.
...."that's a 50-50 call that could go either way".....
He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword.
Butch announces like he doesn't detest MU with every fiber of his being and actually enjoys up-tempo basketball.
.
Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2023, 02:47:51 PM
Butch announces like he doesn't detest MU with every fiber of his being and actually enjoys up-tempo basketball.
Gotta agree. He's done his homework, watched a few games, and has valuable commentary. Almost made me forget he wore red.
Always funny during badger week. Other than that, moved on and appreciate his announcing.
Enjoyed the announcers today. Butch was very good.
Butch has really grown into his role. Makes a bunch of nice observations and doesn't get weird.
The announcer at the Creighton game who said that out of all the teams in the conference, the Bluejays play in the stadium that is closest to an NBA arena.
Got beat to the punch on Butch. Starting to forget he played for the Evil Empire (as opposed to someone like Mike Kelly, who I was not impressed by).
And Sims was very good in the end of the PC - SJU I watched. Just a bad night Tuesday. It happens.
Quote from: warriorchick on January 07, 2023, 03:28:01 PM
The announcer at the Creighton game who said that out of all the teams in the conference, the Bluejays play in the stadium that is closest to an NBA arena.
Ours IS an NBA arena. So it's not close to one.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 07, 2023, 03:34:49 PM
Ours IS an NBA arena. So it's not close to one.
Semantics.
If he had added "without actually being one" there would be nothing wrong with what he said.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 07, 2023, 10:14:23 AM
I'm not sure that will be an option. With the Big 12 & Big 10 already having a lot of content there, they may not need another CBB option, and being the third choice league isn't optimal.
The Big Ten amount of games on FOX/FS1 only increases by a few. (45) Future of the Pac-12 on FS1 might be done. That's open up 22 spots. Number hasn't come out on the amount of Big 12 games FOX Sports gets. My guess around 35.
Still think the Big East will be a major factor in filling tv windows on FOX/FS1. Maybe CBS picks up more games in the future. Time will tell.
Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2023, 01:08:49 PM
...."that's a 50-50 call that could go either way".....
Matt Schumacker with :16 left in the first half today, X vs. Nova, and Villanova's ball-
Iif they want it, Villanova has the last possession" :o
Same game, Sarh Kustok with a cliche' that we have all heard hundreds of times- "...turning defense into offense..."
At least they did not say when a trailing team was down by 2 "they can tie with a 2 or..(alters voice to a tone both deeper and very serious)... take the lead with a three"
Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2023, 02:47:51 PM
Butch announces like he doesn't detest MU with every fiber of his being and actually enjoys up-tempo basketball.
Well then he's either had a change of heart as he grows up, or, he's doing a hell of a job of "covering" when he's getting paid to be the commentor on a televised Marquette game.
He used to ( and may still) be on a radio sports talk show in Green Bay/Fox Valley and whenever the topic was college basketball, he ALWAYS went out of his way to dump on and ridicule MU and the program and especially its place in State college basketball history. He would come off as just an uninformed book.
Maybe he has outgrown it.
I meant to say "uninformed boob".
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on January 07, 2023, 06:31:06 PM
I meant to say "uninformed boob".
And here he is with a uniformed boob
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eXQh6Qsh7Z8/R6OGxIeMt-I/AAAAAAAAARU/JGzRwxy42F8/s320/BrianButch.jpg)
But in all seriousness, I think he does a great job.
My only complaint about Butch is he sounds a lot like Dan Dakich. I panic whenever I hear him thinking we got stuck with Dakich.
I've been impressed with how well he's done.
True.
Fanta on Seton Hall-Butler.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on January 07, 2023, 06:28:11 PM
Well then he's either had a change of heart as he grows up, or, he's doing a hell of a job of "covering" when he's getting paid to be the commentor on a televised Marquette game.
He used to ( and may still) be on a radio sports talk show in Green Bay/Fox Valley and whenever the topic was college basketball, he ALWAYS went out of his way to dump on and ridicule MU and the program and especially its place in State college basketball history. He would come off as just an uninformed book.
Maybe he has outgrown it.
Not sure what he says on small-town radio, but anybody who actually has watched the Marquette games when he's the analyst knows that Butch does not dump on and ridicule Marquette on Fox Sports. If anything, he has been complimentary of Shaka and the program.
Quote from: MU82 on January 07, 2023, 11:39:17 PM
Not sure what he says on small-town radio, but anybody who actually has watched the Marquette games when he's the analyst knows that Butch does not dump on and ridicule Marquette on Fox Sports. If anything, he has been complimentary of Shaka and the program.
Not sure why anyone listens to sports talk radio
Aren't ewe Mike the Painter or John in Franklin, hey?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 08, 2023, 08:08:31 AM
Not sure why anyone listens to sports talk radio
All my presets are 1130, son.
Quote from: Retire0 on January 08, 2023, 08:35:54 AM
All my presets are 1130, son.
Can I interest you in some tinfoil?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 08, 2023, 08:38:44 AM
Can I interest you in some tinfoil?
My mind is free enough.
I hate when someone clearly gets fouled and the announcers acknowledge the missed call by saying something like "you gotta be tough in the Big East" only to have a nickle-and-dimer called 20 seconds later.
Tonight was just another example of why playing on CBS Sports sucks. PBP was fine but Chris Walker was atrocious. When he wasn't making generic boilerplate observations or comments, he was lauding UCONN at every turn. And I don't think he was anti-MU or a UCONN homer, I think he's just a lazy color guy that knows UCONN as a former old BE player and sees the #6 next to their name so he has to gas them up. The first half was dumb as he complimented anything they did but then towards the end as Marquette was up 2-3 possessions late, he kept talking about UCONN's path back and "stranger things have happened!!". Didn't start acknowledging Marquette's performance and their win until the air balled last 3. Made me almost miss Dickey
Quote from: JWags85 on January 11, 2023, 09:10:32 PM
Tonight was just another example of why playing on CBS Sports sucks. PBP was fine but Chris Walker was atrocious. When he wasn't making generic boilerplate observations or comments, he was lauding UCONN at every turn. And I don't think he was anti-MU or a UCONN homer, I think he's just a lazy color guy that knows UCONN as a former old BE player and sees the #6 next to their name so he has to gas them up. The first half was dumb as he complimented anything they did but then towards the end as Marquette was up 2-3 possessions late, he kept talking about UCONN's path back and "stranger things have happened!!". Didn't start acknowledging Marquette's performance and their win until the air balled last 3. Made me almost miss Dickey
Fortunately, I don't think we'll be ranked 9th in the preseason next year, with banishment to CBSSN being the punishment.
Whoever was tonight was FANTASTIC. Waiting for someone to tell me Butch was involved.
Quote from: JWags85 on January 11, 2023, 09:10:32 PM
Tonight was just another example of why playing on CBS Sports sucks. PBP was fine but Chris Walker was atrocious. When he wasn't making generic boilerplate observations or comments, he was lauding UCONN at every turn. And I don't think he was anti-MU or a UCONN homer, I think he's just a lazy color guy that knows UCONN as a former old BE player and sees the #6 next to their name so he has to gas them up. The first half was dumb as he complimented anything they did but then towards the end as Marquette was up 2-3 possessions late, he kept talking about UCONN's path back and "stranger things have happened!!". Didn't start acknowledging Marquette's performance and their win until the air balled last 3. Made me almost miss Dickey
Walker was pretty bad. But I neither missed Dickey nor almost missed Dickey.
Could've been even worse -- Gillen was not in the house.
I thought tonight's play-by-play guy was terrible. Seems like he doesn't know basketball very well.
Someone needs to tell Tom McCarthy, announcer for the the UConn game that an "all ball" block is in fact a foul if you proceed to then knock the guy practically into the stands. Same guy also accuses Omax of kicking his feet way out on a 3 point foul and replays shows no such thing.
Quote from: Judge Smails on January 11, 2023, 09:42:19 PM
I thought tonight's play-by-play guy was terrible. Seems like he doesn't know basketball very well.
Not a meats guy
How 'bout Dopey Simpkins recommending that recruits or transfers choose to play for either Cooley or McDermott above all others?
What a coincidence that Dopey went to Providence! And McDermott? Yeah, there's one with-it guy.
I was excited to hear Simkins today because it meant we were in the clear for tomorrow
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 14, 2023, 03:10:18 PM
I was excited to hear Simkins today because it meant we were in the clear for tomorrow
Oh, that's a good call!
MU gets Bennetti and Raf tomorrow.
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 14, 2023, 03:10:18 PM
I was excited to hear Simkins today because it meant we were in the clear for tomorrow
I could be wrong, but I doubt FOX is letting Dickie anywhere near a game on the big network.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 14, 2023, 03:16:42 PM
MU gets Bennetti and Raf tomorrow.
Nice! Thanks for the info. And thanks to Fox Sports, too!
Listening to Simpkins today was torture. He apparently thinks that because the first names are the same he can channel Vitale (who was also terrible for years). He made me miss Gillen.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 14, 2023, 03:37:34 PM
Listening to Simpkins today was torture. He made me miss Gillen.
You take that back!
why can't we get someone "normal" and more "level headed", like, ohhhh, say bill walton :D
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 14, 2023, 06:13:55 PM
why can't we get someone "normal"
This quote is hanging on a wall at MU's School of Dentistry ai'na?
Cool your jets, bro. Anyone who knows anything about MUBB knows that if you are transferring to get more playing time, going to Marquette would be a mistake. Our starters are all underclassmen, they are all really good, and it's doubtful that any of them are leaving.
If you are butt hurt over this, sit on a pillow.
Quote from: warriorchick on January 14, 2023, 06:53:58 PM
Cool your jets, bro. Anyone who knows anything about MUBB knows that if you are transferring to get more playing time, going to Marquette would be a mistake. Our starters are all underclassmen, they are all really good, and it's doubtful that any of them are leaving.
If you are butt hurt over this, sit on a pillow.
(https://i.imgflip.com/7n6bc.gif)
Also, one person is leaving because we are oversigned.
Quote from: warriorchick on January 14, 2023, 06:53:58 PM
Cool your jets, bro. Anyone who knows anything about MUBB knows that if you are transferring to get more playing time, going to Marquette would be a mistake. Our starters are all underclassmen, they are all really good, and it's doubtful that any of them are leaving.
If you are butt hurt over this, sit on a pillow.
It's what the fanbase does.
I think I'm the only one that doesn't mind Dicky Simpkins. 🦆
Quote from: warriorchick on January 14, 2023, 06:53:58 PM
Cool your jets, bro. Anyone who knows anything about MUBB knows that if you are transferring to get more playing time, going to Marquette would be a mistake. Our starters are all underclassmen, they are all really good, and it's doubtful that any of them are leaving.
If you are butt hurt over this, sit on a pillow.
Not sure if this was to me or not, but ...
Dopey wasn't talking about those transferring for more playing time. He was saying that Cooley and McDermott were cool guys who relate to today's athletes. Unlike, say, Shaka, Self, Davis or any other coaches.
Quote from: MU82 on January 14, 2023, 11:07:57 PM
Not sure if this was to me or not, but ...
Dopey wasn't talking about those transferring for more playing time. He was saying that Cooley and McDermott were cool guys who relate to today's athletes. Unlike, say, Shaka, Self, Davis or any other coaches.
Simpkins actually said that? He said Shaka doesn't relate to today's athletes??
Are you sure you heard that correctly?
Quote from: MU82 on January 14, 2023, 11:07:57 PM
Not sure if this was to me or not, but ...
Dopey wasn't talking about those transferring for more playing time. He was saying that Cooley and McDermott were cool guys who relate to today's athletes. Unlike, say, Shaka, Self, Davis or any other coaches.
I heard him say that about Cooley and McDermott. I didn't hear him say "unlike, say..."
Yes, he said it about the two coaches in the game he was working. He did not say anything derogatory about Shaka.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 15, 2023, 07:37:46 AM
I heard him say that about Cooley and McDermott. I didn't hear him say "unlike, say..."
Exactly. He was saying that the two of them look like fun coaches to play for. That's all.
Not every statement made by an announcer or coach is an insult directed at Marquette.
Quote from: tower912 on January 15, 2023, 07:39:46 AM
Yes, he said it about the two coaches in the game he was working. He did not say anything derogatory about Shaka.
You heard what I heard.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 15, 2023, 07:41:17 AM
Not every statement made by an announcer or coach is an insult directed at Marquette.
This is obviously not true. Everything that can be said is either an insult to Marquette or not complimentary enough about Marquette. There's no other option.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 15, 2023, 07:43:17 AM
This is obviously not true. Everything that can be said is either an insult to Marquette or not complimentary enough about Marquette. There's no other option.
i like this!! cuz we are MARQUETTE!!
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 15, 2023, 07:43:17 AM
This is obviously not true. Everything that can be said is either an insult to Marquette or not complimentary enough about Marquette. There's no other option.
True Warriors have chips on their shoulders: Us against the world!
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 15, 2023, 07:43:17 AM
This is obviously not true. Everything that can be said is either an insult to Marquette or not complimentary enough about Marquette. There's no other option.
And if you do not believe this you are a member of COLE.
It would be torture to go back and listen to it because I don't remember when exactly he said it, but it was along the lines of ...
"If I were a recruit or transfer, these are THE TWO COACHES I'd want to play for. Blah blah blah. Hashtag I'm Dopey."
So no, he didn't say athletes shouldn't want to play for Bill Self, Shaka Smart and Scott Drew ... he just said McDermott and Cooley were THE TWO. Meaning everybody else is not part of those two.
He didn't say "two of the best," or "two I'd consider." He said THE TWO.
I'm not insulted by it or outraged by it or anything else. It was just something typically dopey by the worst basketball analyst in America, and I relayed it to my fellow Scoopers in a thread titled "Announcers."
If anybody does want to subject himself or herself to re-watching the game with the volume on and transcribing what Dopey said, and if I have misrepresented it, I will gladly apologize for having done so.
MU82
This is a case of pandering to the audience. A large portion of people watching that game are fans of one of those schools. He would probably say the same thing if he was doing today's MU-X game. Although he went to Providence so he's a bit biased as well.
Politicians do this all the time. They say what they think people want to hear.
Y'all need to relax.
Always great to have Raft and Benetti on the call though.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 15, 2023, 01:18:51 PM
Always great to have Raft and Benetti on the call though.
Agreed.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 15, 2023, 10:07:35 AM
MU82
This is a case of pandering to the audience. A large portion of people watching that game are fans of one of those schools. He would probably say the same thing if he was doing today's MU-X game. Although he went to Providence so he's a bit biased as well.
Politicians do this all the time. They say what they think people want to hear.
Perhaps.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 15, 2023, 10:57:59 AM
Y'all need to relax.
Totally relaxed. Maybe it was me being so relaxed that cost us the X game. Because as Muggsy would tell you, we fans watching on TV affect the outcome.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 15, 2023, 10:07:35 AM
MU82
This is a case of pandering to the audience. A large portion of people watching that game are fans of one of those schools. He would probably say the same thing if he was doing today's MU-X game. Although he went to Providence so he's a bit biased as well.
Politicians do this all the time. They say what they think people want to hear.
Yea Dickie sucks and I love pointing out moronic announcer tropes, but he clearly likes Cooley and thinks he's special, for good reason beyond just his Alma mater ties, and so that statement tracks. Then you toss in McDermott to not appear totally biased and also cause Creighton has had a couple really good transfers lately including Scheierman this year, and add in a bit of clumsy hyperbole and here you are.
Does anybody follow the fan boards of other Big East schools? Do other schools whine like this about announcers talking up the teams playing in the game they're calling?
Quote from: withoutbias on January 15, 2023, 04:34:49 PM
Does anybody follow the fan boards of other Big East schools? Do other schools whine like this about announcers talking up the teams playing in the game they're calling?
If you're curious, go and look.
Quote from: withoutbias on January 15, 2023, 04:34:49 PM
Does anybody follow the fan boards of other Big East schools? Do other schools whine like this about announcers talking up the teams playing in the game they're calling?
They don't hate other teams as much as us.
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 15, 2023, 06:07:40 PM
I knew you were Rodgers
The energy spent by sports fans complaining about announcers is almost as dumb as the amount of energy spent by sports fans complaining about their team getting a lack of respect.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 15, 2023, 06:12:30 PM
The energy spent by sports fans complaining about announcers is almost as dumb as the amount of energy spent by sports fans complaining about their team getting a lack of respect.
But they hate MU, so do the refs.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 14, 2023, 11:04:27 PM
I think I'm the only one that doesn't mind Dicky Simpkins. 🦆
I like Simpkins too
Lappas did a great job tonight
I thought Lappas brought a really good coaching perspective to tonight's game. Enjoyable duo tonight.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 18, 2023, 11:16:00 PM
I thought Lappas brought a really good coaching perspective to tonight's game. Enjoyable duo tonight.
Lappas is obviously friendly with Cooley but he wasn't awful tonight. Better than most of the color guys we get saddled with.
Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on January 18, 2023, 11:24:09 PM
Lappas is obviously friendly with Cooley but he wasn't awful tonight. Better than most of the color guys we get saddled with.
He kept trying to force Ed into a zone
I gave Lappas some shade earlier today, but I thought he was fine tonight. Way better than Gillen woulda been.
Quote from: DoctorV on January 18, 2023, 11:26:02 PM
He kept trying to force Ed into a zone
My wife thought that was hilarious. "Shaddup about the zone already!"
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 14, 2023, 11:04:27 PM
I think I'm the only one that doesn't mind Dicky Simpkins. 🦆
SECURITY
Quote from: MU82 on January 18, 2023, 11:27:08 PM
I gave Lappas some shade earlier today, but I thought he was fine tonight. Way better than Gillen woulda been.
My wife thought that was hilarious. "Shaddup about the zone already!"
Yeah, Lappas doesn't grate on me much other than his tendency to shout. But "way better than Gillen"? Talk about setting the bar at the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
Quote from: withoutbias on January 15, 2023, 04:34:49 PM
Does anybody follow the fan boards of other Big East schools? Do other schools whine like this about announcers talking up the teams playing in the game they're calling?
Your point? Whining is what scoopers do, early and often. Get with the program!
Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on January 18, 2023, 11:24:09 PM
Lappas is obviously friendly with Cooley but he wasn't awful tonight. Better than most of the color guys we get saddled with.
Was interesting at the end of the game, he said "We don't have to foul here". We? He then corrected himself and said they. Oops. ;D
Quote from: TSmith34, No'er of Bawl on January 19, 2023, 06:43:29 AM
bar at the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
Yet another reason to visit the Grand Canyon!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 15, 2023, 06:12:30 PM
The energy spent by sports fans complaining about announcers is almost as dumb as the amount of energy spent by sports fans complaining about their team getting a lack of respect.
It really upsets me when the announcers don't respect Marquette.
Quote from: pbiflyer on January 19, 2023, 08:57:06 AM
Was interesting at the end of the game, he said "We don't have to foul here". We? He then corrected himself and said they. Oops. ;D
Yeah I missed it but my dad texted me about that.
Slightly off topic, but does anyone get the sense that the crowd nose is muted on the CBSSN broadcasts?
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 19, 2023, 10:51:37 AM
Slightly off topic, but does anyone get the sense that the crowd nose is muted on the CBSSN broadcasts?
Crowd noise was muted in real life too. Non-students don't really like cheering lately.
Quote from: pbiflyer on January 19, 2023, 08:57:06 AM
Was interesting at the end of the game, he said "We don't have to foul here". We? He then corrected himself and said they. Oops. ;D
Haha I noticed that too. Also, he called Marquette "Providence" a few times.
Quote from: pbiflyer on January 19, 2023, 08:57:06 AM
Was interesting at the end of the game, he said "We don't have to foul here". We? He then corrected himself and said they. Oops. ;D
I heard that also.
CBS-SN will be doing the Seton Hall game. Will be interesting to see how unbiased and objective they are.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 19, 2023, 11:19:21 AM
Crowd noise was muted in real life too. Non-students don't really like cheering lately.
Ok - I wasn't sure if it was just the broadcast. That's pretty sad for the non-students - they make a ton of noise at Creighton games.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 19, 2023, 11:19:21 AM
Crowd noise was muted in real life too. Non-students don't really like cheering lately.
Thanks for sharing that. There was one point where my wife said, "It seems oddly quiet there with how well we're playing," and she was right.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 19, 2023, 11:19:21 AM
Crowd noise was muted in real life too. Non-students don't really like cheering lately.
They were loud in the 70's
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 19, 2023, 11:43:35 AM
They were loud in the 70's
Cause they were cheering for Warriors back then!!
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 19, 2023, 12:00:45 PM
Cause they were cheering for Warriors back then!!
And by default, knew ball.
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 19, 2023, 12:02:15 PM
And by default, knew ball.
Ball knowledge revolves around smoke-filled arenas where the only women there were mistresses and those selling cigarettes
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 19, 2023, 12:06:11 PM
Ball knowledge revolves around smoke-filled arenas where the only women there were mistresses and those selling cigarettes
Is that not the game day experience at the fiserve? I haven't been in awhile.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 19, 2023, 12:13:02 PM
Is that not the game day experience at the fiserve? I haven't been in awhile.
I wish but Fiserv is mostly like being in a prison nowadays with all the crime inside and outside
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 19, 2023, 12:16:39 PM
I wish but Fiserv is mostly like being in a prison nowadays with all the crime inside and outside
Thanks for nothing, Unk -- Marquette's enrollment just went down by 1,100 because you wrote that sentence.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 19, 2023, 12:16:39 PM
I wish but Fiserv is mostly like being in a prison nowadays with all the crime inside and outside
Not like back in the day when crime in Milwaukee knew its place and stayed in the right neighborhoods.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 19, 2023, 11:19:21 AM
Crowd noise was muted in real life too. Non-students don't really like cheering lately.
Crowd was fine last night. Choppy game made it hard to sustain it.
And it was terrific against UConn.
I thought the crowd was solid last night. Hard to maintain the crowd because we couldn't string stops together. We only had one kill all night. Lots of 2 stops, score, 2 stops, score. Keeps the crowd from boiling over.
UConn was electric
Peeked at the Providence board. They hated how pro-MU the announcers were.
Makes me think that fans only hear what they want to hear. And for some reason they only hear negative thins about their team and positives about the other team
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 19, 2023, 12:16:39 PM
I wish but Fiserv is mostly like being in a prison nowadays with all the crime inside and outside
Thanks for the warning. I never knew there were so many dentists around the FiServ. I will keep my eyes out.
Yeah I didn't think there was anything wrong with the announcers last night.
But we have to hate the media, because the media hates us.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 19, 2023, 03:08:52 PM
Peeked at the Providence board. They hated how pro-MU the announcers were.
Makes me think that fans only hear what they want to hear. And for some reason they only hear negative thins about their team and positives about the other team
Or, maybe it's just that everyone really does dislike Providence and their fans.
Same crew is doing Saturday's game.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 19, 2023, 06:03:04 PM
Same crew is doing Saturday's game.
Welp...as long as Lappas didn't coach or intern at Seton Hall, he should be ok.
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 19, 2023, 01:17:59 PM
Crowd was fine last night. Choppy game made it hard to sustain it.
And it was terrific against UConn.
Exactly....scoopers will bitch about anything.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 19, 2023, 12:16:39 PM
I wish but Fiserv is mostly like being in a prison nowadays with all the crime inside and outside
Inside crime? Do you mean beer prices?
Quote from: Slim on January 20, 2023, 07:46:29 AM
Inside crime? Do you mean beer prices?
Serving Budweiser.
Slim and PBI
Yes
One note about CBS...as bad as their games are, their studio show is really good. Rothstein and Parrish really grind on college hoops so you know you're getting very well researched, well informed show. You may not always agree with those two but few others put as much time into CBB as they do.
Quote from: The Lens on January 20, 2023, 09:26:50 AM
One note about CBS...as bad as their games are, their studio show is really good. Rothstein and Parrish really grind on college hoops so you know you're getting very well researched, well informed show. You may not always agree with those two but few others put as much time into CBB as they do.
Totally agree. And I don't hate their game coverage either. While they may be a bit biased, their announcers know the teams, the players (and their names), and the game. Fox has been hit or miss on the game announcers and their studio coverage is either taped or teleprompter bland, especially since Lavin left.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 20, 2023, 09:54:13 AM
Totally agree. And I don't hate their game coverage either. While they may be a bit biased, their announcers know the teams, the players (and their names), and the game. Fox has been hit or miss on the game announcers and their studio coverage is either taped or teleprompter bland, especially since Lavin left.
I think CBSSN has the lowest budget for game production. FS1 feels a little better. ESPN still is the top. I like Rob Stone, he's a good traffic cop but he has very few people to toss it to. They need an information guy. Heck let Titus and Tate out of the podcast studio for just one night.
Why is this man screaming at me?
I haven't been a big Lappas fan but I thought he was just fine these last two games. I even chuckled today when he said Kam couldn't play in a church league because of the arc on his 3s.
One thing that was pretty bad, though, was them speculating repeatedly that Richmond was benched for poor play ... only to find out he actually had a head injury. Would have been nice if they apologized.
Quote from: MU82 on January 21, 2023, 07:18:45 PM
I haven't been a big Lappas fan but I thought he was just fine these last two games. I even chuckled today when he said Kam couldn't play in a church league because of the arc on his 3s.
During the Chase dump, Lappas was #OneofUs
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 21, 2023, 07:23:46 PM
During the Chase dump, Lappas was #OneofUs
With that typo this has a really creepy feel to it.
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 21, 2023, 07:23:46 PM
During the Chase dump, Lappas was #OneofUs
Der wuz lotsa chit goin' on, butt eye musta missed it, hey?
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 21, 2023, 07:37:46 PM
With that typo this has a really creepy feel to it.
God damnit
I've got to admit that the Catalon/Lappas duo is good despite the complaints about games being on CBSSN. I'd take them over most of the others we've had this season. I love Raft and his style but Lappas is a good one, too.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 22, 2023, 11:58:26 AM
I've got to admit that the Catalon/Lappas duo is good despite the complaints about games being on CBSSN. I'd take them over most of the others we've had this season. I love Raft and his style but Lappas is a good one, too.
I've never had a problem with lappas. Hearing him twice this week made me realize how he gets on a topic and won't leave it. Ie providence zone, Kolek ineffective.
But all told he's definitely better than the avg color announcer.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 22, 2023, 01:03:31 PM
I've never had a problem with lappas. Hearing him twice this week made me realize how he gets on a topic and won't leave it. Ie providence zone, Kolek ineffective.
But all told he's definitely better than the avg color announcer.
Lapppas isn't too bad - I was watching a game with Gillen last nite and he's the one that tends to get annoying and talking really fast.
If you're reading this and still up, listen to the announce crew on NM/Utah State.
"He went after that ball like a bum going after a ham sandwich!", that's a hell of a call.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on February 01, 2023, 11:11:10 PM
If you're reading this and still up, listen to the announce crew on NM/Utah State.
"He went after that ball like a bum going after a ham sandwich!", that's a hell of a call.
Haha—fantastic
Quote from: DegenerateDish on February 01, 2023, 11:11:10 PM
If you're reading this and still up, listen to the announce crew on NM/Utah State.
"He went after that ball like a bum going after a ham sandwich!", that's a hell of a call.
Did they mention that Utah State at one time had a Legendary Coach?
Quote from: DegenerateDish on February 01, 2023, 11:11:10 PM
If you're reading this and still up, listen to the announce crew on NM/Utah State.
"He went after that ball like a bum going after a ham sandwich!", that's a hell of a call.
Who was that guy? Never complaining about Dickie again.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on February 01, 2023, 11:11:10 PM
If you're reading this and still up, listen to the announce crew on NM/Utah State.
"He went after that ball like a bum going after a ham sandwich!", that's a hell of a call.
Yeah, I had to turn it off. That color guy's voice was grating. Thought I was listening to a NASCAR event.
Derek Clark was play by play, who legit seemed like he was trying to will Utah State to a big victory.
Color guy was Joe Cravens, I think he was head coach at Weber State a few years ago. Clark went obnoxiously out of his way to refer to Cravens as "COACH" (it sounded like all caps.
Craven's analysis was 1950's southern-esque. It was...interesting.
Heck the crew was in person, that is a win for most.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on February 01, 2023, 11:11:10 PM
If you're reading this and still up, listen to the announce crew on NM/Utah State.
"He went after that ball like a bum going after a ham sandwich!", that's a hell of a call.
he probably got his start on radio ?-( eddie doucette he is not
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 02, 2023, 08:59:10 AM
he probably got his start on radio ?-( eddie doucette he is not
A face for radio and a voice for mime.
The two doing our game today are good.
'Marquette with the dunk at the rim'
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 11, 2023, 02:23:56 PM
But still hate us
Yes.
The two doing the UCONN/Creighton game are good too. But obviously hate us for not making our first place position after being picked 9th preseason as their main topic of discussion during this game.
Update: UCONN/Creighton announcers are a joke. Jim Jackson says MU has the best record but isn't the best team and expects the standings to change by the end of the year.
These guys blow. And still hate us.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 11, 2023, 03:00:35 PM
Update: UCONN/Creighton announcers are a joke. Jim Jackson says MU has the best record but isn't the best team and expects the standings to change by the end of the year.
These guys blow. And still hate us.
Meh. You got sensitive undies on if that upsets ya. I think he's right. Those standings will change obviously.
And I think he's right, MU isn't the best team in the BEast right now. It's creighton.
Having said that he never said that MU wouldn't win it.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 11, 2023, 12:27:06 PM
The two doing our game today are good.
I didn't notice them, so yeah, really good.
Wojo pumping up Marquette's highlights from today on ESPNU right now feels really weird
Quote from: Otule's Glass Eye on February 11, 2023, 06:04:48 PM
Wojo pumping up Marquette's highlights from today on ESPNU right now feels really weird
Today is the first time I've heard him. Kinda boring; future doesn't seem bright for him in broadcasting.
Quote from: Judge Smails on February 11, 2023, 06:11:20 PM
Today is the first time I've heard him. Kinda boring; future doesn't seem bright for him in broadcasting.
We'll know more in his 5th year or so. It will be telling if LaPhonso Ellis and Seth Greenberg write letters to ESPN honchos forcing the network to choose between Wojo and them.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 11, 2023, 03:00:35 PM
Update: UCONN/Creighton announcers are a joke. Jim Jackson says MU has the best record but isn't the best team and expects the standings to change by the end of the year.
These guys blow. And still hate us.
You may not like it, but Jackson is right.
Saying Creighton is better is just an opinion, as is saying Marquette is better.
As of this moment, Marquette has a better conference record, has a better overall record, has a better NET, has a better kenpom, is ranked higher in polls, and beat Creighton head-to-head (albeit without Kalkbrenner).
I have nothing against Jackson opining that Creighton is better, and nothing against you or other Scoopers opining that. Y'all have a right to believe and say anything you want.
But there is scant actual evidence to support "Creighton is better than Marquette" and a pretty good amount of evidence to support "Marquette is better than Creighton."
The cool thing is that it will be decided on the court and in the standings over the next 3 weeks.
Then, when Marquette is the conference champion and ahead in every still better, some no doubt will still be claiming Creighton is better -- just like Ewing used to always claim the Knicks were better even as he had to watch Jordan play in the NBA Finals.
My post was tongue in cheek.
Quote from: MU82 on February 11, 2023, 06:29:11 PM
Saying Creighton is better is just an opinion, as is saying Marquette is better.
As of this moment, Marquette has a better conference record, has a better overall record, has a better NET, has a better kenpom, is ranked higher in polls, and beat Creighton head-to-head (albeit without Kalkbrenner).
I have nothing against Jackson opining that Creighton is better, and nothing against you or other Scoopers opining that. Y'all have a right to believe and say anything you want.
But there is scant actual evidence to support "Creighton is better than Marquette" and a pretty good amount of evidence to support "Marquette is better than Creighton."
The cool thing is that it will be decided on the court and in the standings over the next 3 weeks.
Then, when Marquette is the conference champion and ahead in every still better, some no doubt will still be claiming Creighton is better -- just like Ewing used to always claim the Knicks were better even as he had to watch Jordan play in the NBA Finals.
Creighton is higher is KenPom. Luckily, it'll be decided on the court
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 11, 2023, 06:36:23 PM
Creighton is higher is KenPom. Luckily, it'll be decided on the court
Thanks for the correction - I do now see that Creighton is
11th 10th and we are
12th 11th, just a skosh behind.
Management regrets the error.
(EDITED to show both CU and MU moved up one spot after Arizona's loss to Stanford knocked AZ out of the top 10.)
Quote from: wadesworld on February 11, 2023, 06:30:52 PM
My post was tongue in cheek.
Well damn it man. Then I'm sorry for callin ya out. Missed the implied real/ tongue in cheek.
Quote from: fjm on February 11, 2023, 07:57:10 PM
Well damn it man. Then I'm sorry for callin ya out. Missed the implied real/ tongue in cheek.
Haha all good. My schtick (one of them, at least), is faux outrage at any kind of perceived slight at MU.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 11, 2023, 08:10:19 PM
Haha all good. My schtick (one of them, at least), is faux outrage at any kind of perceived slight at MU.
So many ridiculous posts on this board, it's really hard to determine who is joking and who isn't.
Quote from: warriorchick on February 11, 2023, 08:20:13 PM
So many ridiculous posters on this board, it's not really hard to determine who is a joker and who isn't.
FIFY
No complainants about today's crew. Solid.
Quote from: MU82 on February 11, 2023, 06:29:11 PM
Saying Creighton is better is just an opinion, as is saying Marquette is better.
As of this moment, Marquette has a better conference record, has a better overall record, has a better NET, has a better kenpom, is ranked higher in polls, and beat Creighton head-to-head (albeit without Kalkbrenner).
I have nothing against Jackson opining that Creighton is better, and nothing against you or other Scoopers opining that. Y'all have a right to believe and say anything you want.
But there is scant actual evidence to support "Creighton is better than Marquette" and a pretty good amount of evidence to support "Marquette is better than Creighton."
The cool thing is that it will be decided on the court and in the standings over the next 3 weeks.
Then, when Marquette is the conference champion and ahead in every still better, some no doubt will still be claiming Creighton is better -- just like Ewing used to always claim the Knicks were better even as he had to watch Jordan play in the NBA Finals.
Thx, Kamala
Quote from: wadesworld on February 11, 2023, 08:10:19 PM
Haha all good. My schtick (one of them, at least), is faux outrage at any kind of perceived slight at MU.
Should have included the refs
CBSSN again tonight. I wonder which MU haters we'll get.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on February 15, 2023, 07:19:09 AM
CBSSN again tonight. I wonder which MU haters we'll get.
No need to wonder.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63704.msg1516589#msg1516589
Which color commentator hates Marquette the most?
1. Dickey "Hashtag" Simpkins
2. Pete Gillen
3. Steve Lappas
4. Donny Marshall
5. Lavall Jordan
6. Stephan Bardo
7. Brian Butch
8. Jim Spanarkel
9. Bill Raftery
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 15, 2023, 08:13:55 AM
Which color commentator hates Marquette the most?
1. Dickey "Hashtag" Simpkins
2. Pete Gillen
3. Steve Lappas
4. Donny Marshall
5. Lavall Jordan
6. Stephan Bardo
7. Brian Butch
8. Jim Spanarkel
9. Bill Raftery
#theyallhateus
Quote from: MU82 on February 15, 2023, 08:15:56 AM
#theyallhateus
I think Lappas hates us most from our old Big East battles
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 15, 2023, 08:13:55 AM
Which color commentator hates Marquette the most?
1. Dickey "Hashtag" Simpkins
2. Pete Gillen
3. Steve Lappas
4. Donny Marshall
5. Lavall Jordan
6. Stephan Bardo
7. Brian Butch
8. Jim Spanarkel
9. Bill Raftery
Al McGuire would have hated Marquette by this point.
Mostly because of the marketing department.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 15, 2023, 08:17:03 AM
I think Lappas hates us most from our old Big East battles
I tell you what ... Bardo hates us at an elite level.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 15, 2023, 08:19:58 AM
Al McGuire would have hated Marquette by this point.
Mostly because of the marketing department.
Billy Packer was right
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 15, 2023, 08:19:58 AM
Al McGuire would have hated Marquette by this point.
Mostly because of the marketing department.
Ha-This is great.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 15, 2023, 08:19:58 AM
Al McGuire would have hated Marquette by this point.
Mostly because of the marketing department.
Al would be scared to step foot on campus with the violence.
Al would have told scoop to get bent.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 15, 2023, 08:55:58 AM
Al would be scared to step foot on campus with the violence.
Al would have punched violence in the face, and then the two would have been closer than ever.
Gillen was really bad tonight. It would be like having Homer announce the game. How many times did he say get it to Nunge or drive it to the basket when X had the ball.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 15, 2023, 08:55:58 AM
Al would be scared to step foot on campus with the violence.
He grew up in Queens. Milwaukee is milk and cookies.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 15, 2023, 08:13:55 AM
Which color commentator hates Marquette the most?
1. Dickey "Hashtag" Simpkins
2. Pete Gillen
3. Steve Lappas
4. Donny Marshall
5. Lavall Jordan
6. Stephan Bardo
7. Brian Butch
8. Jim Spanarkel
9. Bill Raftery
Got me laughin' on this post, Rico.
Don't know, though if it's the post itself or the fact that many here think you're serious.
Does Gillen know another adjective besides "tremendous"?
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 15, 2023, 08:26:04 PM
Does Gillen know another adjective besides "tremendous"?
Does Herman know any other than "excellent"
Dickie Simpkins and Steven Bardo are my favorites. Sometimes Bardo has a pop or two before the game.
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 15, 2023, 08:27:56 PM
Dickie Simpkins and Steven Bardo are my favorites. Sometimes Bardo has a pop or two before the game.
You're dead....
To Gillen, every player is tremendous.
He's got the New York accent like Al but that's where the comparison stops.
I thought Gillen was awful. He just seemed "off". I thought he was distracting and seemed to not really know the players.
They'll suck
Quote from: The Thing on February 15, 2023, 10:01:06 PM
I thought Gillen was awful. He just seemed "off". I thought he was distracting and seemed to not really know the players.
That's just him. He's off every game he announces.
Is there ever a moment where Gillen doesn't think the correct play is "get it inside"? I swear a team of 5 Steph Currys could be down 3 with 2 seconds left and Gillen would say that they should get it inside.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 16, 2023, 12:32:27 AM
Is there ever a moment where Gillen doesn't think the correct play is "get it inside"? I swear a team of 5 Steph Currys could be down 3 with 2 seconds left and Gillen would say that they should get it inside.
He was really bad. Watched the game after getting home...from the game. In the last 10 he was trying to coach and advocate for X most of the time. His insistence thst Boum wad somehow fouled by Stevie on the clean steal was extra annoying.
Gillen was indeed brutal tonight. The play-by-play was also bad and both seemed underprepared. It was a shame for such a big game and added to the anxiety.
CBSSN needs to get their game broadcasts in order. The studio pregames are good.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 16, 2023, 01:16:25 AM
He was really bad. Watched the game after getting home...from the game. In the last 10 he was trying to coach and advocate for X most of the time. His insistence thst Boum wad somehow fouled by Stevie on the clean steal was extra annoying.
That's probably because every time Boum lost the ball, he acted like he'd just been hit by a Mack truck.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 16, 2023, 12:32:27 AM
Is there ever a moment where Gillen doesn't think the correct play is "get it inside"? I swear a team of 5 Steph Currys could be down 3 with 2 seconds left and Gillen would say that they should get it inside.
And apparently we must all be reminded do not assume the free throw is going to go in. He said that many times last night.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 16, 2023, 01:16:25 AM
He was really bad. Watched the game after getting home...from the game. In the last 10 he was trying to coach and advocate for X most of the time. His insistence thst Boum wad somehow fouled by Stevie on the clean steal was extra annoying.
"They have no answer for Boum!!" Was said about 6 times on almost every basket
Given he coached there for a decade, I get it. But it's still whack
To be fair, they didn't have an answer for Boum for awhile. But even after Shaka made adjustments and he became less effective, Gillen kept saying they don't have answers and I thought "Yeah I think they figured it out."
But Boum is a really smooth player. Enjoyable to watch when not playing Marquette.
Boum is a great player and he is fun to watch. He is a very tough guy to stop for entire game if he is shooting well.
Quote from: TwoWords on February 16, 2023, 01:24:01 AM
Gillen was indeed brutal tonight. The play-by-play was also bad and both seemed underprepared. It was a shame for such a big game and added to the anxiety.
CBSSN needs to get their game broadcasts in order. The studio pregames are good.
Agree. The studio pre-game, halftime and post-game is great. Solid crew there.
In-game guys are awful.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on February 15, 2023, 09:50:52 PM
To Gillen, every player is tremendous.
He's got the New York accent like Al but that's where the comparison stops.
All I picture in my head when I hear his voice is this guy.
I will have you know that guy graduated from MIT.
The Massachusetts Institute of TV repair.
Gillen is a Digger Domer. ND sucks!
Quote from: pbiflyer on February 16, 2023, 11:08:37 AM
All I picture in my head when I hear his voice is this guy.
PBI Flyer
Nick Tortelli! Gillan would say Cheers was a tremendous show.
The play by play announcer for the Butler game is excellent.
The studio hosts allow MU to enjoy the Big East Championship for a full 3.5 minutes before planting the seed highlighting that no player on MU has won a single Big East tournament game.
Can someone record that and forward to the Basketball office to make sure all the guys see it?
Did they lie? Enjoy the moment. The team clearly is.
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 28, 2023, 07:32:00 PM
The studio hosts allow MU to enjoy the Big East Championship for a full 3.5 minutes before planting the seed highlighting that no player on MU has won a single Big East tournament game.
Can someone record that and forward to the Basketball office to make sure all the guys see it?
Stop it. The game has been over for 15 minutes and they've done nothing but praise MU, interview Shaka and Kolek, and show the locker room.
The locker room celebration was a thing of beauty.
Quote from: tower912 on February 28, 2023, 07:33:29 PM
Did they lie? Enjoy the moment. The team clearly is.
I didn't suggest it was a lie, I was pointing out that people go out of their way to find a reason to doubt them. Add it to the list
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 28, 2023, 07:34:36 PM
I didn't suggest it was a lie, I was pointing out that people go out of their way to find a reason to doubt them. Add it to the list
Nothing wrong with keeping a chip on their shoulders.
Bull shot we don't get Brando and Marshall for a clinch game versus Brando and guadin
Who is the former player studio host?
Quote from: wisblue on February 28, 2023, 07:53:10 PM
Who is the former player studio host?
Rob Stone and Casey Jacobsen are in studio.
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 28, 2023, 07:32:00 PM
The studio hosts allow MU to enjoy the Big East Championship for a full 3.5 minutes before planting the seed highlighting that no player on MU has won a single Big East tournament game.
Can someone record that and forward to the Basketball office to make sure all the guys see it?
They couldn't have been more effusive in their praise.
Bardo has accidentally said Big 10 rather than Big East on two consecutive MU broadcasts. Embarrassing.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on February 28, 2023, 08:57:31 PM
Bardo has accidentally said Big 10 rather than Big East on two consecutive MU broadcasts. Embarrassing.
To be fair, he is in big 10 country
Quote from: panda on February 28, 2023, 09:02:04 PM
To be fair, he is in big 10 country
And he played for Illinois ! ! ! ;) 8-)
Except that a huge part of his job is calling Big East games. I'd forgive it if he did it once. But two games in row?
Despite the conference faux pas, I really like Bardo as an announcer. I know he's got his things he repeats too much but I really like his style.
There was a possession last night where we were fumbling the ball around for the entire possession and he says "Marquette's playing like there's butter on the ball!" which made me laugh out loud.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on February 28, 2023, 08:57:31 PM
Bardo has accidentally said Big 10 rather than Big East on two consecutive MU broadcasts. Embarrassing.
In the postgame, Jacobson lauded Max Prosper. Fox hates us.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 01, 2023, 07:25:59 AM
In the postgame, Jacobson lauded Max Prosper. Fox hates us.
Everybody hates us! In the words of Nancy Kerrigan.....why???????????
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on February 28, 2023, 11:23:56 PM
Except that a huge part of his job is calling Big East games. I'd forgive it if he did it once. But two games in row?
Perhaps you should send Fox Sports a tape of you calling the game. I am sure you can do a much better job.
I didn't say I would be better than Bardo. I just said that he's broadcasting Big East games and should stop saying"Big Ten...I mean Big East". I know he played in the Big Ten, but it was 33 years ago.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on March 01, 2023, 01:53:25 PM
I didn't say I would be better than Bardo. I just said that he's broadcasting Big East games and should stop saying"Big Ten...I mean Big East". I know he played in the Big Ten, but it was 33 years ago.
We are closer to the Big Ten than the actual "Big Ten."
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on March 01, 2023, 01:53:25 PM
I didn't say I would be better than Bardo. I just said that he's broadcasting Big East games and should stop saying"Big Ten...I mean Big East". I know he played in the Big Ten, but it was 33 years ago.
He hates the BE!
In Bardo's defense, he works a good number of BigTen games as well.
I caught part of an Illinois game Bardo did a couple years ago. That was quite bad.
Nick Bahe isn't overtly biased considering he played at Creighton.
And I haven't noticed Brian Anderson lean towards Marquette when he does the non-conference games.
Although he does throw in a few local references that national guys would not know. Like mentioning Joplin played for the Lancers in high school. I guess that inside take could lead some to say he leans towards our local teams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQGDD2lmaHc
They hate us so much. ::)
Quote from: tower912 on March 02, 2023, 09:30:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQGDD2lmaHc
They hate us so much. ::)
Hypocrites
Tower
That group along with Fanta have been great with their praise for us for much of the season.
Yet a different trio with Chris Mack still isn't convinced we can go deep. Let's see which group is right.
Ok. I understand the natural tendency to root for the underdog in any sport, but I thought Jason Benetti's call today was annoying at best and downright unprofessional at worst.
Quote from: Autoengineer on March 04, 2023, 03:36:16 PM
Ok. I understand the natural tendency to root for the underdog in any sport, but I thought Jason Benetti's call today was annoying at best and downright unprofessional at worst.
::)
Quote from: Autoengineer on March 04, 2023, 03:36:16 PM
Ok. I understand the natural tendency to root for the underdog in any sport, but I thought Jason Benetti's call today was annoying at best and downright unprofessional at worst.
I'll let him know.
Quote from: Autoengineer on March 04, 2023, 03:36:16 PM
Ok. I understand the natural tendency to root for the underdog in any sport, but I thought Jason Benetti's call today was annoying at best and downright unprofessional at worst.
I think you are searching for reasons to be mad.
Quote from: tower912 on March 04, 2023, 05:43:42 PM
I think you are searching for reasons to be mad.
+1 I thought Beneti and Bardo were fine. Only thing I found annoying was us letting St John's back in the game on multiple occasions. But 17-3, 25-6 is so remarkable I'll get over it!
Stoopid Benetti almost cost us the game. And I tell you what, Bardo almost did too!
Lenny
Not comparing this team to any other team in MU history, but Al's teams let a lot of teams hang around. Those teams often had their runs or mini runs to take control of the game and almost never did not end up wining the game.
I love the play in the first 8 minutes today to overlook the rest.
Quote from: Autoengineer on March 04, 2023, 03:36:16 PM
Ok. I understand the natural tendency to root for the underdog in any sport, but I thought Jason Benetti's call today was annoying at best and downright unprofessional at worst.
Benetti is a true pro at the announcing game.
Bardo not so much - doesn't even rank above Dickie Simkins in my book.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 01, 2023, 07:25:59 AM
In the postgame, Jacobson lauded Max Prosper. Fox hates us.
Jacobsen having rudimentary communication issues isn't our problem.
Quote from: Goose on March 04, 2023, 06:07:09 PM
Lenny
Not comparing this team to any other team in MU history, but Al's teams let a lot of teams hang around. Those teams often had their runs or mini runs to take control of the game and almost never did not end up wining the game.
I love the play in the first 8 minutes today to overlook the rest.
Marquette seems to have 8-12 minute stretches where they overwhelm the opponent to the point where a lead is extended to a large number or a deficit is eliminated. The first 8 minutes today decided the game until the miracle minute
Quote from: tower912 on March 04, 2023, 05:43:42 PM
I think you are searching for reasons to be mad.
Are you nuts? No reason to be excited by a(n almost)10 point comeback in less than 30 seconds except you hate Marquette!
Quote from: Jockey on March 04, 2023, 06:07:46 PM
Benetti is a true pro at the announcing game.
Bardo not so much - doesn't even rank above Dickie Simkins in my book.
That's crazy talk. I like Bardo a lot. He's got kind of an "aw shucks" way about him that I enjoy.
I will say in my conversations with Jason over the course of this season, in private he has been incredibly complimentary of MU, Shaka, and the team.
Rico
The last three games they had 6-9 minutes spurts and put the opponent to sleep. We need them to extend for more of the game to deliver the goods in March, but those stretches have been very impressive.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 04, 2023, 06:32:32 PM
That's crazy talk. I like Bardo a lot. He's got kind of an "aw shucks" way about him that I enjoy.
I don't disagree with you very often, ATL, but on this one I do.
Quote from: Jockey on March 04, 2023, 06:07:46 PM
Benetti is a true pro at the announcing game.
Bardo not so much - doesn't even rank above Dickie Simkins in my book.
100% on Benetti. And, he deals with CP...a great spokesman for, in fact. His Twitter post today was very solid.
Sarcasm went right past you.
Quote from: Goose on March 04, 2023, 06:07:09 PM
Lenny
Not comparing this team to any other team in MU history, but Al's teams let a lot of teams hang around. Those teams often had their runs or mini runs to take control of the game and almost never did not end up wining the game.
I love the play in the first 8 minutes today to overlook the rest.
Goose
Al's teams didn't have to deal with a shot clock or the 3 point shot so when they went on a run (whenever it happened) it generally put the game away. I remember a lot of games that were close into the 2nd half that became blow outs. Today it's common to see multiple runs by both teams in the course of a game. Almost no lead is safe.
Lenny
Agreed on different game, but often Al's teams relied on a run to turn a game around. Those runs made me love defense and I still do today. The last three games MU runs were dictated by the D stepping up. Fun to watch.
lenny/goose-remember the 4 corners(of course you do) those moments used to drive me nuts, daring the other team to foul or take the ball away trying to kill clock...harrowing until the final buzzer
I loved the four corners on a rainy Monday night in March, 1977. Probably a big reason why we won our first ever championship. It is about time to add another banner in the rafters, and not a BE banner.
Quote from: Goose on March 04, 2023, 07:31:23 PM
I loved the four corners on a rainy Monday night in March, 1977. Probably a big reason why we won our first ever championship. It is about time to add another banner in the rafters, and not a BE banner.
One championship a a time! Haha!
Bardo is one of my favorite Fox announcers . He did a good job again today. My favorite is Dickie Simpkins.
Quote from: Jockey on March 04, 2023, 06:07:46 PM
Benetti is a true pro at the announcing game.
Bardo not so much - doesn't even rank above Dickie Simkins in my book.
I was at the game, so I didn't watch, but I didn't have to in order to know its false. Benetti is exceptional, a pro's pro, and Ive yet to hear him do any of the annoying stuff that turns you off to announcers.
I don't always love Bardo, but I think he actually has good rapport with players and coaches. I remember seeing interactions with him and Kolek this season, and I want to say Kam? as well that made me respect him a bit more.
Speaks to the quality of Fox that we could complain about Bardo but anyone here would listen to him 10/10 times over Gillen or Lappas.
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 04, 2023, 08:00:05 PM
Bardo is one of my favorite Fox announcers . He did a good job again today. My favorite is Dickie Simpkins.
Meth is a helluva drug! ;D ;D
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 04, 2023, 09:50:24 PM
Meth is a helluva drug! ;D ;D
After someone called out his performance art with Tiger, I think troll Herman became more self aware ;D
Quote from: Daniel on March 04, 2023, 07:47:08 PM
One championship a a time! Haha!
One or maybe two in March and the big one in April.
Brando is the most annoying announcer in basketball when your team is losing.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 09, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Bardo is the most annoying announcer in basketball when your team is losing.
Bardo's not calling this game...
Quote from: wadesworld on March 09, 2023, 11:53:48 AM
Bardo's not calling this game...
Brando*
So used to typing Bardo lol
Yeah, Brando sucks.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 09, 2023, 12:11:00 PM
Yeah, Brando sucks.
I can't stand his "how do you do?" comment.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 09, 2023, 12:11:54 PM
I can't stand his "how do you do?" comment.
I'm agnostic on broadcasters but Brando has been bad for decades
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 09, 2023, 12:11:54 PM
I can't stand his "how do you do?" comment.
How do I do what?
Some heavy east coast rooting by today's duo.
That would be odd since Brando is lives in Louisiana.
Jim Jackson is also terrible. How many times did he say "Ighodara" today? Worse than Gillen.
Watched with other Warriors at a bar with sound off. I guess I'm glad I did.
Not a fan of Brando but Jackson is usually very good.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on March 09, 2023, 03:40:19 PM
Jim Jackson is also terrible. How many times did he say "Ighodara" today? Worse than Gillen.
Dont say preposterous things.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 09, 2023, 02:25:23 PM
That would be odd since Brando is lives in Louisiana.
When the "Catholic 7" broke off to create the New Big East, Brando stated, ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, that it was a terrible move and the Big East would become a mid major.
Never heard him issue a "I am a complete idiot" apology.
Jim Jackson should be relegated to the studio only
Quote from: MarquetteDano on March 09, 2023, 04:12:14 PM
When the "Catholic 7" broke off to create the New Big East, Brando stated, ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, that it was a terrible move and the Big East would become a mid major.
Never heard him issue a "I am a complete idiot" apology.
Don't remember what was said. Was a big listener to his radio show. Rothstein, etc, etc had the Big East lumped in with the AAC and the A10. Let's face it, the narrative changed when Kris Jenkins hit that three.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 11, 2023, 12:09:59 AM
Don't remember what was said. Was a big listener to his radio show. Rothstein, etc, etc had the Big East lumped in with the AAC and the A10. Let's face it, the narrative changed when Kris Jenkins hit that three.
Some people thought the AAC was a better hoops league.
Quote from: Viper on March 04, 2023, 06:59:29 PM
100% on Benetti. And, he deals with CP...a great spokesman for, in fact. His Twitter post today was very solid.
He is the best. I'm no White Sox fan but I enjoy having Sox games on MLB TV to hear him and Steve Stone.
mr bill in hot bong water again-saying the "M" word twice on live tv
dave pasch then follows with the obvious-"what is wrong with you"?
https://www.tmz.com/2023/03/10/bill-walton-drops-derogatory-term-little-people-twice-on-air/
is that why the infamous "m" bar is no longer with us
Good grief - the 'm' word? That's beyond pathetic.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 11, 2023, 12:48:36 PM
Good grief - the 'm' word? That's beyond pathetic.
Is this new to you?
Yeah that's been OOB for awhile.
Quote from: wisblue on March 11, 2023, 09:05:36 AM
He is the best. I'm no White Sox fan but I enjoy having Sox games on MLB TV to hear him and Steve Stone.
White Sox with a huge fail. Jason Benetti gone to the Tigers. The organization continues to fail at every single level.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on November 09, 2023, 04:19:06 PM
White Sox with a huge fail. Jason Benetti gone to the Tigers. The organization continues to fail at every single level.
He's a Chicago guy too right?
Quote from: LloydsLegs on November 09, 2023, 04:19:06 PM
White Sox with a huge fail. Jason Benetti gone to the Tigers. The organization continues to fail at every single level.
Tigers fans are excited about this news. Major upgrade from what we've had in Detroit the past several years.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on November 09, 2023, 05:27:54 PM
Tigers fans are excited about this news. Major upgrade from what we've had in Detroit the past several years.
Wow - not a smart move by the ChiSox.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on November 09, 2023, 04:19:06 PM
White Sox with a huge fail. Jason Benetti gone to the Tigers. The organization continues to fail at every single level.
Wow. Shame. He's one of the best voices in sport
White Sox are going to have to do quite a bit to get me to pay attention to them again. I have just felt betrayal after betrayal for about 2 years now.
Probably time to shop for a new collar for my little guy.
Will be curious to see who Detroit pairs with him. The last few years have seen a revolving door of former Tigers, essentially on a game by game basis. The play by play guy, about my age, was a little too deferential to his heroes from 1984.
Hopefully they can settle on one and stick with him
Quote from: tower912 on November 09, 2023, 06:26:52 PM
Will be curious to see who Detroit pairs with him. The last few years have seen a revolving door of former Tigers, essentially on a game by game basis. The play by play guy, about my age, was a little too deferential to his heroes from 1984.
Hopefully they can settle on one and stick with him
No idea why this immediately pops into my head, but I bet Curtis Granderson would be a great color commentator.
Quote from: tower912 on November 09, 2023, 06:26:52 PM
Will be curious to see who Detroit pairs with him. The last few years have seen a revolving door of former Tigers, essentially on a game by game basis. The play by play guy, about my age, was a little too deferential to his heroes from 1984.
Hopefully they can settle on one and stick with him
If you show them all of your post-game Scoop takes, they'll take you in a second.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 09, 2023, 07:25:10 PM
No idea why this immediately pops into my head, but I bet Curtis Granderson would be a great color commentator.
I would take him in a heartbeat, but I have to believe he has bigger plans.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on November 09, 2023, 08:33:02 PM
Yep.
Bennetti is a South Sider as well and grew up a White Sox fan. This has money written all over it. Reinsdorf is unloading payroll at all levels. Cheap new GM and cheap holdover manager. Payroll for players will be at least 50-75 million less than a year ago.
He just needs to sell the team. Its embarrassing.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on November 09, 2023, 05:27:54 PM
Tigers fans are excited about this news. Major upgrade from what we've had in Detroit the past several years.
You will enjoy Bennetti. One of the best in the biz as an announcer and a truly impressive person. This blow seems to be hitting really hard for White Sox fans. Seems they view this as the final straw or getting close to it..."we can't even get this right?!"
Quote from: StillWarriors on November 10, 2023, 07:59:05 AM
You will enjoy Bennetti. One of the best in the biz as an announcer and a truly impressive person. This blow seems to be hitting really hard for White Sox fans. Seems they view this as the final straw or getting close to it..."we can't even get this right?!"
Dish has some good insight on this in the MLB thread.
Bennetti hates Marquette
I know I'm in the minority but I was one of the few that always thought Bennetti was a bit overrated.
Great voice, puts in the work to be extremely multi-faceted and valuable, very clever at times, but doesn't excite me in the big moment.
Can easily put you to sleep quicker than get you out if your seat.
Of course the Sox didn't really give him much to get us excited about, so there's that.
He seems better suited for the big station big moment games where he has to be neutral, Joe Buck style, than the day in day out baseball game style.
I'd Rider die with Hawk all day everyday.
Quote from: DoctorV on November 10, 2023, 08:43:56 AM
I know I'm in the minority but I was one of the few that always thought Bennetti was a bit overrated.
Great voice, puts in the work to be extremely multi-faceted and valuable, very clever at times, but doesn't excite me in the big moment.
Can easily put you to sleep quicker than get you out if your seat.
Of course the Sox didn't really give him much to get us excited about, so there's that.
He seems better suited for the big station big moment games where he has to be neutral, Joe Buck style, than the day in day out baseball game style.
I'd Rider die with Hawk all day everyday.
meta
Quote from: DoctorV on November 10, 2023, 08:43:56 AM
I know I'm in the minority but I was one of the few that always thought Bennetti was a bit overrated.
Great voice, puts in the work to be extremely multi-faceted and valuable, very clever at times, but doesn't excite me in the big moment.
Can easily put you to sleep quicker than get you out if your seat.
Of course the Sox didn't really give him much to get us excited about, so there's that.
He seems better suited for the big station big moment games where he has to be neutral, Joe Buck style, than the day in day out baseball game style.
I'd Rider die with Hawk all day everyday.
Don't necessarily disagree with anything you said. I just think this is purely motivated by saving money and is emblematic of the bigger problem, terrible ownership.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on November 10, 2023, 11:29:08 AM
Doesn't everyone?
Even Fr. Marquette hates Marquette now that they took his likeness off the university seal and replaced him with a rice paddy.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 10, 2023, 11:36:00 AM
Even Fr. Marquette hates Marquette now that they took his likeness off the university seal and replaced him with a rice paddy.
Well that's what he gets for asking for directions.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on November 10, 2023, 11:53:34 AM
Well that's what he gets for asking for directions.
Next time, don't forget your phone Pere.