Rory McIlroy just won the the Canadian Open against a star studded leaderboard . Will be interesting to see if he can carry the momentum into The US Open this week at The Country Club in Brookline MA
Justin Thomas continues to be in good form and maybe he can make it two majors in a row
I heard MBS bought this event, and it's now named the S.A. Open.
Looks like they are setting up The Country Club to play like an old school US Open course.
Quote from: tower912 on June 12, 2022, 09:50:26 PM
Looks like they are setting up The Country Club to play like an old school US Open course.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/us-open-2022-top-100-golfers-ranking-the-country-club-brookline?utm_medium=email&utm_source=061322&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM28629&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 13, 2022, 06:16:49 AM
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/us-open-2022-top-100-golfers-ranking-the-country-club-brookline?utm_medium=email&utm_source=061322&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM28629&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
What a dumb list.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/us-open-odds-2022-rory-mcilroy
Looking at the course, a little heat, a little wind, and par will be a great score. A lot of wind, and par will be a dream.
Quote from: tower912 on June 13, 2022, 01:22:36 PM
Looking at the course, a little heat, a little wind, and par will be a great score. A lot of wind, and par will be a dream.
https://golf.com/travel/the-country-club-us-open-host-wicked-good/
Quote from: tower912 on June 13, 2022, 01:22:36 PM
Looking at the course, a little heat, a little wind, and par will be a great score. A lot of wind, and par will be a dream.
I hope that under Mike Whan the USGA simply sets-up the course to host a stellar tournament, but stops chasing the notion of par. I thought last year at Torrey was a step in the right direction. At Torrey, they produced a good event without the usual USGA clown show. It was compelling golf, coming down to the wire. Does anyone really care that Rahm shot 6 under? I venture to say, no.
Chasing par doomed Mike Davis' tenure and damaged a number of Opens.
I enjoy the carnage.
Quote from: tower912 on June 13, 2022, 04:17:55 PM
I enjoy the carnage.
If it naturally happens, sure. But forcing it to happen is not a good plan. See Chambers Bay as to why.
It played the same for everybody. Shootout between two leading players of the day. Course needed to mature.
This is going to be narrow fairways, deep rough, small crusty sloping greens. Old school.
Quote from: tower912 on June 13, 2022, 04:42:46 PM
It played the same for everybody. Shootout between two leading players of the day. Course needed to mature.
This is going to be narrow fairways, deep rough, small crusty sloping greens. Old school.
Those sloping greens require extreme distance control to be on the right level. Would not surprise me if Morikowa showed up on the leader board Sunday
Straight hitter who manages his irons. If he putts, you may be right.
Quote from: tower912 on June 13, 2022, 06:00:05 PM
Straight hitter who manages his irons. If he putts, you may be right.
Yep.
Cantlay?
Smith?
Morikawa?
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 13, 2022, 06:37:45 PM
Yep.
Cantlay?
Smith?
Morikawa?
Cantlay? Non-factor in majors since '19
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 13, 2022, 06:37:45 PM
Yep.
Cantlay?
Smith?
Morikawa?
Smith is too wild off the tee for a very tight course. He's currently 151 in driving accuracy.
Kisner?
I think Cantlay might be the guy this week.
Phil!
Quote from: Goose on June 14, 2022, 07:24:19 AM
I think Cantlay might be the guy this week.
I too keep coming back to Cantlay. In the top tier, I like Burns, Hovland, JT, Zalatoris.
Country Club Hole descriptions
https://www.golfchannel.com/news/2022-us-open-inside-country-clubs-championship-layout
Quote from: Retire0 on June 14, 2022, 10:46:11 AM
I too keep coming back to Cantlay. In the top tier, I like Burns, Hovland, JT, Zalatoris.
As Rico stated, his performance in majors the last 3 years is not good. He has 5 wins on Tour since 2020, but not one Top-10 in a major championship.
To be honest, I like Rahm to repeat. Currently, #1 in strokes gain off the tee and keeping it in the fairway looks to be at a premium this week.
Quote from: RJax55 on June 14, 2022, 11:34:26 AM
As Rico stated, his performance in majors the last 3 years is not good. He has 5 wins on Tour since 2020, but not one Top-10 in a major championship.
To be honest, I like Rahm to repeat. Currently, #1 in strokes gain off the tee and keeping it in the fairway looks to be at a premium this week.
Callaway's running a deal that if you buy a new Callaway driver and correctly pick a Callaway pro as winner of the Open, you'll get reimbursed what you paid for the driver.
http://www.callawaywins.linksunlimited.com/
So if you feel strongly about Rahm and you could use a new driver ... have at it!
Quote from: RJax55 on June 14, 2022, 11:34:26 AM
As Rico stated, his performance in majors the last 3 years is not good. He has 5 wins on Tour since 2020, but not one Top-10 in a major championship.
To be honest, I like Rahm to repeat. Currently, #1 in strokes gain off the tee and keeping it in the fairway looks to be at a premium this week.
That's fair but didn't he win the Tour Championship? Who will have a hot putter this weekend? Rose hasn't won forever it seems but looked good in Toronto.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 14, 2022, 12:10:18 PM
That's fair but didn't he win the Tour Championship? Who will have a hot putter this weekend? Rose hasn't won forever it seems but looked good in Toronto.
He didn't really win the Tour Championship
Pulling for Rory, Rahm or JT
I'm a Homasexual.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 14, 2022, 12:11:28 PM
Pulling for Rory, Rahm or JT
I was already a big Rory fan, but now even moreso. Like watching the other 2 guys play, too.
Quote from: WithoutBias on June 14, 2022, 12:27:34 PM
I'm a Homasexual.
Contending in the majors is his next step
Quote from: MU82 on June 14, 2022, 12:04:37 PM
Callaway's running a deal that if you buy a new Callaway driver and correctly pick a Callaway pro as winner of the Open, you'll get reimbursed what you paid for the driver.
http://www.callawaywins.linksunlimited.com/
So if you feel strongly about Rahm and you could use a new driver ... have at it!
Nah. I'm currently playing the Titleist TSi3. Fantastic driver. And, I have never really gotten along with Callaway clubs.
I believe Callaway ran this promotion last year too, prior to Rahm's win at the U.S. Open. Rahm has been a very good signing for them.
Quote from: RJax55 on June 14, 2022, 01:13:04 PM
Nah. I'm currently playing the Titleist TSi3. Fantastic driver. And, I have never really gotten along with Callaway clubs.
I believe Callaway ran this promotion last year too, prior to Rahm's win at the U.S. Open. Rahm has been a very good signing for them.
I wonder how many drivers they ended up giving away.
Quote from: MU82 on June 14, 2022, 12:04:37 PM
Callaway's running a deal that if you buy a new Callaway driver and correctly pick a Callaway pro as winner of the Open, you'll get reimbursed what you paid for the driver.
http://www.callawaywins.linksunlimited.com/
So if you feel strongly about Rahm and you could use a new driver ... have at it!
You don't have to buy the driver, mail-in your pick as long as it's postmarked tomorrow.
Quote from: Retire0 on June 14, 2022, 03:38:20 PM
You don't have to buy the driver, mail-in your pick as long as it's postmarked tomorrow.
Thanks. I'll check it out. Could use a new driver to get me tour ready.
Story on US Open course set up
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/us-open-2022-course-setup?utm_medium=email&utm_source=061522&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM28749&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Cantlay and Spieth +2 early. Henley -2. It's over
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 16, 2022, 07:33:21 AM
Cantlay and Spieth +2 early. Henley -2. It's over
Sounds like this course is playing brutal. Makes you wonder what it would be like if it was warm in Boston.
Good start for Morikawa.
Coverage right now on USA fyi. I guess I was wrong about Cantlay. Morikawa and Rahm looking strong early.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 16, 2022, 08:41:11 AM
Coverage right now on USA fyi. I guess I was wrong about Cantlay. Morikawa and Rahm looking strong early.
USA Network is the only one covering this? Sad.
Quote from: cheebs09 on June 16, 2022, 08:44:31 AM
USA Network is the only one covering this? Sad.
I think it moves to NBC? Not sure. Ya...I was searching fot it and was like WTF? Great to watch a few hours of golf before work.
Quote from: cheebs09 on June 16, 2022, 08:44:31 AM
USA Network is the only one covering this? Sad.
It's all over the place because NBC has the rights. Sticking with the app
Seems like a lot of players under par so far
But nobody really going low.
Think the wind is picking up a bit. Completely pushed Morikawa's tee shot right.
Afternoon guys are gonna have their hands full.
Last hole put a bit of a blemish on a hell of a opening round for Rory as he tries to get back to winning majors.
Just saw the score. Tarren? I assume the afternoon will be more difficult. Rory, Rahm, and Morikawa in excellent position.
Lol, Phil looking like me three feet around the cup.
You hate to see it...
He's been there, done that.
(https://i.imgur.com/aefZI4o.gif)
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 16, 2022, 02:36:36 PM
Lol, Phil looking like me three feet around the cup.
You hate to see it...
Couldn't happen to a better guy
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 16, 2022, 03:15:32 PM
Couldn't happen to a better guy
At least he let the ball come to a stop this year.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 16, 2022, 03:15:32 PM
Couldn't happen to a better guy
He's lucky the LIV money is up front.
Wow....I didn't expect anyone to be -4 through 9.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 16, 2022, 03:52:55 PM
Wow....I didn't expect anyone to be -4 through 9.
Eh
Quote from: MU82 on June 14, 2022, 04:54:58 PM
Thanks. I'll check it out. Could use a new driver to get me tour ready.
Nads, ewe should bea on a stage...and ders won leavin' in 5 minutes, hey?
25 players under par on day 1. That is a lot . Surprised this course is so accessible .
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 16, 2022, 10:37:51 PM
25 players under par on day 1. That is a lot . Surprised this course is so accessible .
Until they roll the ball back and unless the USGA really tricks up the course, some scoring will be available. It'll get firmer over the weekend if there isn't rain.
Saudi golfers finished LIII over par, courtesy of Kyle Porter of CBS.
Figjam had a nifty 78
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 16, 2022, 10:37:51 PM
25 players under par on day 1. That is a lot . Surprised this course is so accessible .
USGA sets up the pin placements with numerous accessible locations on Day 1. Then on Days 2, 3 and 4, those accessible ones, decline each day.
Also they will not cut the rough and by Sunday, that grass will probably be another inch or so longer.
Many of low scores came yesterday morning and now those players start today in the afternoon, when the winds pick up. Looked at weather and they may get some thunderstorms this afternoon with more wind than yesterday afternoon. Also they go from 88 degrees today to low 60's on the weekend.
I hope it doesn't rain, because the greens will get a lot firmer, but if it does, the wet rough will be a nightmare.
JT with an early ejection
Daffue??? What does that mean?
Really excited for Nick Hardy. He grew up across the street from us and is a really solid young man. This is his first year on the big tour and he's been hampered by injuries - but he's 3 under through 36 at the US freakin' Open! Go Nick!!
possible storms rolling thru should soften things up
Who wants a soft US Open?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 17, 2022, 01:14:04 PM
Really excited for Nick Hardy. He grew up across the street from us and is a really solid young man. This is his first year on the big tour and he's been hampered by injuries - but he's 3 under through 36 at the US freakin' Open! Go Nick!!
Super cool Lenny! I will keep an eye out for him and be rooting for him, for sure.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 17, 2022, 01:14:04 PM
Really excited for Nick Hardy. He grew up across the street from us and is a really solid young man. This is his first year on the big tour and he's been hampered by injuries - but he's 3 under through 36 at the US freakin' Open! Go Nick!!
Awesome!
I see some shorter hitters are near the top of the leaderboard.
Don't know if he'll win this week but Rory should be a huge favorite heading into St. Andrews
Never hit a meaningful golf future, but Morikawa at 23 to 1 after the first round when he was a few strokes back would be pretty sweet.
Heck of a leaderboatd.
Packed. So many players within a few shots. Should be a glorious weekend.
Bad missed cuts:
Shane Lowry +4 but was stuck with Hefty and Louis
Billy Ho +4
Daniel Berger +5 both him and Billy need to start showing up in these
Cam Smith +6
Viktor Hovland +7 shot a 42 on the inward 9, rumors circulating he's Saudi bound, though he denied it earlier this week
Tommy Fleetwood +7 Euro Tour Rickie is all flash, no substance
Morikawa and Dahmen will be a fun pairing.
Quote from: tower912 on June 17, 2022, 02:24:56 PM
Who wants a soft US Open?
Hoo wants a soft anythin', hey?
So 23 players under par and +3 cut . Lots of players should be in the mix .
Solid leaderboard . I was thinking Rory and Morikowa would do well, but then again I am big fan of both so that was also wishful thinking .
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 17, 2022, 07:30:59 PM
Hoo wants a soft anythin', hey?
(https://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/1035099/85927764.jpg)
Who ya got? The wind will be more of a factor today. I'll be rooting for Morikawa and Rory. A bit concerned though about Rahm.
I'll be rooting for Joel Dahman. I guess he is one of the most popular guys on tour and anybody that beats testicular cancer is worth cheering for.
Quote from: nyg on June 18, 2022, 07:29:05 AM
I'll be rooting for Joel Dahman. I guess he is one of the most popular guys on tour and anybody that beats testicular cancer is worth cheering for.
Good point.
Dahmen would be a great story.
Rory ending an 8 year Major drought while giving LIV golf the finger would be a great story.
Morikawa getting the third leg of the career grand slam would be a great story.
The USGA with a course set up that nobody is complaining about is a great story.
Keegan winning in New England would be a great story.
Team Rory
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 17, 2022, 06:34:24 AM
Saudi golfers finished LIII over par, courtesy of Kyle Porter of CBS.
Figjam had a nifty 78
11 of the 15 LIV guys missed the cut, and the 4 who made it are not exactly in contention: DJ Reed are +1 and DeChambeau and Bland are +2. Hey, it's a process!
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 17, 2022, 01:14:04 PM
Really excited for Nick Hardy. He grew up across the street from us and is a really solid young man. This is his first year on the big tour and he's been hampered by injuries - but he's 3 under through 36 at the US freakin' Open! Go Nick!!
That's a great story, Lenny. We're at a large family gathering and I haven't been able to watch the Open yet, but I've already said that part of my Father's Day present will be getting to watch most of the final round. I hope your guy is still in contention!
Rory and Morikowa are my favorites . Dahmen is such an interesting guy it would be fun if he could hang in there today.
If the wind kicks up maybe JT can get back in the mix
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 18, 2022, 08:50:23 AM
Rory and Morikowa are my favorites . Dahmen is such an interesting guy it would be fun if he could hang in there today.
If the wind kicks up maybe JT can get back in the mix
I don't think he's out of it by any stretch of the imagination. I pegged the winning score to be around -5, so 6 back isn't crazy. There is enough firepower ahead of him for someone to get on a heater and open it up, however. Been since '08 they've had a playoff. We're due
I caught only a small part of the interview but Craig Stadler said something that might not be a bad idea. He thinks the PGA tour could and should add a 5th major. He suggested the Tour Championship. The LPGA has 5 majors and I think the Champions tour does as well. I'm just curious how this would impact guys bolting for the Saudi league, it may give them second thoughts. Stadler also said that he loves the PGA Championship in May because when it was in August it was a "huge disadvantage to heavy players". :) He said he'd rather have a major in Michigan in December. :)
The May PGA effectively eliminates the upper Midwest. Hazeltine, Whistling Straits, Oakland Hills... courses just aren't going to be ready.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 18, 2022, 09:24:48 AM
I caught only a small part of the interview but Craig Stadler said something that might not be a bad idea. He thinks the PGA tour could and should add a 5th major. He suggested the Tour Championship. The LPGA has 5 majors and I think the Champions tour does as well. I'm just curious how this would impact guys bolting for the Saudi league, it may give them second thoughts. Stadler also said that he loves the PGA Championship in May because when it was in August it was a "huge disadvantage to heavy players". :) He said he'd rather have a major in Michigan in December. :)
Haven't they tried stuff similar in the past? Like the World Golf Championships? You can't just simply label something a major and expect the public to follow along.
Quote from: tower912 on June 18, 2022, 09:32:19 AM
The May PGA effectively eliminates the upper Midwest. Hazeltine, Whistling Straits, Oakland Hills... courses just aren't going to be ready.
Next year PGA at Oak Hills in Rochester NY upstate so they are figuring out how to play it in these climates
Quote from: User Name #251 on June 18, 2022, 09:37:47 AM
Haven't they tried stuff similar in the past? Like the World Golf Championships? You can't just simply label something a major and expect the public to follow along.
I think they've tried to make the FedEx Playoffs like that. Even making large dollar amounts for the champion. I think it still pales in comparison to what the LIV guys are making.
The only way I see them regretting their decision is if they get banned from all non-LIV events. Even then, I'm not sure they are going to regret it that much.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 18, 2022, 09:40:17 AM
Next year PGA at Oak Hills in Rochester NY upstate so they are figuring out how to play it in these climates
That was scheduled before the move from august.
Quote from: tower912 on June 18, 2022, 09:32:19 AM
The May PGA effectively eliminates the upper Midwest. Hazeltine, Whistling Straits, Oakland Hills... courses just aren't going to be ready.
That's a fair point.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 18, 2022, 09:40:17 AM
Next year PGA at Oak Hills in Rochester NY upstate so they are figuring out how to play it in these climates
A late, wet spring would make that a hoot. I will play in 45 degrees and wet, but I am an outlier.
I don't know if they could pull off a major but I'd really like to see the Canadian Open at Cabot Cliffs.
Quote from: cheebs09 on June 18, 2022, 09:42:22 AM
I think they've tried to make the FedEx Playoffs like that. Even making large dollar amounts for the champion. I think it still pales in comparison to what the LIV guys are making.
The only way I see them regretting their decision is if they get banned from all non-LIV events. Even then, I'm not sure they are going to regret it that much.
Yeah I mean the FedEx Playoffs is just golf's attempt to get people to watch a little bit more after the NFL kicks off. You can try new things, but unless the public really cares and tunes in, that doesn't mean something magically becomes a major.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 18, 2022, 09:51:35 AM
I don't know if they could pull off a major but I'd really like to see the Canadian Open at Cabot Cliffs.
Those properties don't want to host events like that. They'll do amateurs but not a PGA event or major
Will anyone shoot better than E today?
Someone or other has talked about making the Tour Championship a major for years. But as others have said, simply declaring something to be a "major" probably isn't gonna fly.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 18, 2022, 11:11:32 AM
Will anyone shoot better than E today?
Like I told you two days ago, the USGA sets it up harder each day. That pin on #3 is ridiculous.
The wind gusting to 25mph and they probably didn't water greens that much, so even would be a good score.
This should be an epic day.
Wow...McCarthy posted a 68. I assume the afternoon will be more difficult. Zalatoris making an early move.
Yikes! Morikawa making a mess on 4.
Until that! What a bogey putt.
That might of just won it for Scheffler
Hes gonna be tough to catch the way hes playing. What a shot
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 18, 2022, 03:43:17 PM
That might of just won it for Scheffler
Hes gonna be tough to catch the way hes playing. What a shot
Incredible! A lot of golf yet but you could be right.
Zalatoris will be in great shape if he posts -3. The wind looks like it's picking up a bit.
These guys are pretty good. Morikawa has this unflappable quality to his game.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 18, 2022, 03:47:14 PM
Incredible! A lot of golf yet but you could be right.
Oh its definitely not over but hes 8 under his last 19 holes. Hes dialed
I think someone will def have to catch him, hes not gonna fallback I dont think
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 18, 2022, 03:55:41 PM
Oh its definitely not over but hes 8 under his last 19 holes. Hes dialed
I think someone will def have to catch him, hes not gonna fallback I dont think
Agreed. Meanwhile Rory having a rough time.
Huge putt for Rahm on 7.
Ughhh. That's pretty much it for Rory.
Scheffler looks confident
Rory hits a massive drive on 8 approach was not a the right level and rolled
Back about 50 yards . Made a nice recovery pitch them rammed the birdie putt by the hole....
Scheffler with a real opportunity to break this open Herman.
Wow. Things just changed! Gotta like Zalatoris' position.
And just like that Scheffler with a brutal double bogey.
Thats golf for ya.
Rory picked up a clutch par on 9 .Maybe that can get that hop in his step going again.
This LIV stuff is a real bummer. There's a ton of great young players, the overall depth of the game is crazy. It just sucks that there will be fewer fields with the top players. Especially if more jump ship.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 18, 2022, 04:41:59 PM
This LIV stuff is a real bummer. There's a ton of great young players, the overall depth of the game is crazy. It just sucks that there will be fewer fields with the top players. Especially if more jump ship.
The guys that can play ain't leaving for LIV.
Quote from: RJax55 on June 18, 2022, 04:43:54 PM
The guys that can play ain't leaving for LIV.
We don't know that but I hope you're right.
This is an incredible leaderboard. Scheffler, Rahm, and Morikawa all within 2 shots of Zalatoris. And Rory and Keegan only 3 back. And this with a tough course and a leader who is not known as a consistent steady player. This should be fun
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 18, 2022, 04:41:59 PM
This LIV stuff is a real bummer. There's a ton of great young players, the overall depth of the game is crazy. It just sucks that there will be fewer fields with the top players. Especially if more jump ship.
Not worth worrying about, especially in the middle of the US Open.
Phenomenal par on 18 and a tremendous round for Zalatoris
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 18, 2022, 05:02:06 PM
Phenomenal par on 18 and a tremendous round for Zalatoris
Yes, very nice round and valiant effort. But, long way to go today.
The back nine tomorrow might be an epic battle. If Rory doesn't miss putts, Morikowa picks up a few, Rahm, Scheffler, and now Fitzpatrick. Very good players, all within OWGR top 15.
schef giving it all back...down to -1
fitz one of the few that leave the pin in
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on June 18, 2022, 05:31:10 PM
schef giving it all back...down to -1
fitz one of the few that leave the pin in
Crazy that Scheffler has gone +5 the last four holes.
Now number 9 in the OWGR, Sam Burns in the hunt.
I will mention that prior to tournament start I put $100 on Fitzpatrick at +2500
So, there's hope for money win.
It's vitally important that Morikawa and Rory post -1 or better.
Complete meltdown from Morikawa! I didn't see this coming at all.
Rory hits he ball almost 375 at 15 then dumps Approach into the bunker
The US Open is supposed to be carnage.
Quote from: tower912 on June 18, 2022, 06:03:51 PM
The US Open is supposed to be carnage.
But +6 though 13 is a problem. I actually think many of the top players had/are having mini-meltdowns. Among the final few groups no one has really played great imo.
It isn't a problem. He said coming in he couldn't hit his stock cut. Couldn't find it. He fought his way around for two rounds and then fought a two way miss so far. Not a problem. What is supposed to happen when you are fighting your swing at a US Open.
Quote from: tower912 on June 18, 2022, 06:20:58 PM
It isn't a problem. He said coming in he couldn't hit his stock cut. Couldn't find it. He fought his way around for two rounds and then fought a two way miss so far. Not a problem. What is supposed to happen when you are fighting your swing at a US Open.
I understand that but I still disagree. He has struggled with his short game as well today.
I don't view a world class golfer having a bad day as a problem.
Quote from: tower912 on June 18, 2022, 06:26:21 PM
I don't view a world class golfer having a bad day as a problem.
I just mean it's a problem if he wants to win the tournament. I'm not sure I could break 90 on this course.
As it is set up, I know I would not.
Rahm made 17 look easy.
OMG!!
rahm ready to explode! don't think i'd want to be in that car ride back to the hotel
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on June 18, 2022, 06:50:42 PM
rahm ready to explode! don't think i'd want to be in that car ride back to the hotel
Why? He has a hot wife
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on June 18, 2022, 06:50:42 PM
rahm ready to explode! don't think i'd want to be in that car ride back to the hotel
Yes....that would probably not be fun. :)
Love the leaderboard for tomorrow . The ball striking talent of the leaders is incredible.
the US open is just wild.
Rahm takes soul possession of the first with 1 hole left. With the way he was playing and his overal talent it was setting him up great going into sunday.
1 hole later, double bogey and not even in a tie for the lead.
Tomorrow is gonna be nuts with all the lead changes. Shame Rory couldnt get anything going today. Gonna need to be really special tomorrow to have a shot.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 18, 2022, 07:33:28 PM
the US open is just wild.
Rahm takes soul possession of the first with 1 hole left. With the way he was playing and his overal talent it was setting him up great going into sunday.
1 hole later, double bogey and not even in a tie for the lead.
Tomorrow is gonna be nuts with all the lead changes. Shame Rory couldnt get anything going today. Gonna need to be really special tomorrow to have a shot.
Do you think someone could go low? It looks like it will be less windy but pretty cool temps.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 18, 2022, 07:17:29 PM
Love the leaderboard for tomorrow . The ball striking talent of the leaders is incredible.
-1 is as far back as any potential winner can come from.
No one that shot low third round has won since Ernie in '97
Thomas just came from 7 back at the PGA. Zalatoris just blew a big lead in a major and Fitzpatrick has not been here before. (though he has won on this course before) The low round for the week is 66. I would say anyone at +1 or better has a chance. But realistically, I would assume the eventual winner is currently under par.
Quote from: tower912 on June 18, 2022, 07:54:55 PM
Thomas just came from 7 back at the PGA. Zalatoris just blew a big lead in a major and Fitzpatrick has not been here before. (though he has won on this course before) The low round for the week is 66. I would say anyone at +1 or better has a chance. But realistically, I would assume the eventual winner is currently under par.
I think this setup is too hard for anyone that far back to win, though it would be fun to see someone make a charge like that
Thomas only came half way back. The leaders did the rest and came back to him. I'm not going to pick this hill to die on. I think it is possible, but not likely.
I can't tell you why but my gut feeling is the winner will not come from the final two pairings.
MU82, try chipping Fitzpatrick style.
It doesn't appear the wind will be much of a factor. Maybe someone goes low? Rory may be ae to pull this off. I'm really just hoping for it to be a tight race on the back 9.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 07:39:33 AM
It doesn't appear the wind will be much of a factor. Maybe someone goes low? Rory may be ae to pull this off. I'm really just hoping for it to be a tight race on the back 9.
Rory was of a total disaster yesterday but made some crucial par saves to stay in the tournament . If he can finish with a good round h should be right there .
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 19, 2022, 07:49:58 AM
Rory was of a total disaster yesterday but made some crucial par saves to stay in the tournament . If he can finish with a good round h should be right there .
I was very surprised none of the top 10 players had a sub 70 round. And Scheffler's 5 hole stretch after he got to -6 was crazy. His tee shot on the short par 3 derailed him for awhile.
US Open as it should be.
Quote from: tower912 on June 19, 2022, 08:01:36 AM
US Open as it should be.
Tower, you would have birdied 9/10 times on 11 with your wedge game and ability to execute the knock down shot. Scheffy doubled and lost focus.
Nope. Nobody birdies anything 9 times out of 10. With the rough and the bunkers and the elevation, 11 is like #7 at Pebble combined with #17 at TPC Sawgrass. Sheffler hit a rough patch and is only a couple back.
US Open is all about avoiding doubles. The home of the good bogey.
Overnight rain but chilly at Brookline. Winds around 15mph. Will play softer but the rough will be tough
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 07:39:33 AM
I'm really just hoping for it to be a tight race on the back 9.
That's all I want for every major, so yes.
Quote from: tower912 on June 19, 2022, 08:34:16 AM
US Open is all about avoiding doubles. The home of the good bogey.
Well said.
Quote from: tower912 on June 19, 2022, 06:25:44 AM
MU82, try chipping Fitzpatrick style.
I have enough problems. Then again, desperation is great inspiration for change.
There's a low round out there. Scheffler with a birdie, birdie start. -6 the winning score?
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 01:45:56 PM
There's a low round out there. Scheffler with a birdie, birdie start. -6 the winning score?
Scheffler playing with a ton of confidence.
I get the scores are lower than most USOPEN's but I really like this course. Lots of blind tee shots, difficult short holes, and not particularly long in general. I think if the rough was a bit higher and maybe they watered the fairways more this would play significantly harder. On some of these holes they're getting 40-50 yards rolls on the fairway. I could see Brookline being in the USOPEN rotation with a few tweaks.
Rory just cant get on a run unfortunately.
Every time he gets a little mo with a birdie he ruins it the next hole.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 19, 2022, 02:13:12 PM
Rory just cant get on a run unfortunately.
Every time he gets a little mo with a birdie he ruins it the next hole.
I don't see much of advantage going for the green on 5. It's against the wind today and you really have to hit a near perfect 3 wood.
Scheffler apparently didn't listen to me. :)
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 02:15:33 PM
I don't see much of advantage going for the green on 5. It's against the wind today and you really have to hit a near perfect 3 wood.
Just got another biridie though.
If he can stay bogey free for a while now, hes got a shot. Needs some consistency though.
Fitzpatrick looking really good early.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 19, 2022, 02:25:00 PM
Just got another biridie though.
If he can stay bogey free for a while now, hes got a shot. Needs some consistency though.
No, he got a par on 5.
Tough week for the Saudi sport washers
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 02:29:07 PM
No, he got a par on 5.
I'm talking Rory. He bogey'd 5 and then got it back on 6.
And Rory gonna follow with yet another bogey. Incredible.
Scheffler back into black out mode
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 19, 2022, 02:31:21 PM
I'm talking Rory. He bogey'd 5 and then got it back on 6.
Rory is playing very aggressive and that isn't necessarily rewarded in The US Open.
So far his misses have results in bogeys , o feel he is bringing double into play though.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 19, 2022, 02:34:19 PM
And Rory gonna follow with yet another bogey. Incredible.
Ya....and Scheffy birdies 6.
We could have a two man race on the B9.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 02:38:27 PM
Ya....and Scheffy birdies 6.
We could have a two man race on the B9.
Scheffler is not going backwards and that will be hard to beat
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 19, 2022, 02:40:13 PM
Scheffler is not going backwards and that will be hard to beat
Fitzpatrick looks very confident Herman. He just hit a perfect tee shot on 5 and has an Eagle putt.
Wow. Two clutch holes for Zalatoris.
The rain overnight softened the greens just enough to make them receptive. Still fast, but a good iron stops. The rough doesn't hurt if you are in the fairway.
Quote from: tower912 on June 19, 2022, 03:11:54 PM
The rain overnight softened the greens just enough to make them receptive. Still fast, but a good iron stops. The rough doesn't hurt if you are in the fairway.
Agreed Tower. But I do think the rough could be more difficult.
Rory...
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Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 02:43:21 PM
Fitzpatrick looks very confident Herman. He just hit a perfect tee shot on 5 and has an Eagle putt.
Fitz does seem very calm. Not making many mistakes. The PGA Championship experience is helping him.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on June 19, 2022, 03:30:06 PM
Rory...
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/9eb83e27402de397dea1059e92c6ed65/tenor.gif?itemid=4973473)
LOL. :(
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 03:17:15 PM
Agreed Tower. But I do think the rough could be more difficult.
Good grief, the rough is US Open deep. Wait for tee shots on 12 and 13.
If Scheffler hits it in the rough on each of his final 9 holes, just like he did on #10, he will not win. Rough in spots is brutal.
Will Z is a stud with approach shots, but he has to hit it within three feet to make a putt. Like Scheffler did, once he wins, the gates may open, but putting, ugh....
Both guys in the final group are flushing their irons right now. This is fun. And we have a new leader.
Zalatoris needs to win one of these before the USGA and R & A ban the armlock
Scheffler will remember #11. Ouch.
Have we seen a single shot of McCarthy?
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 03:47:14 PM
Scheffler will remember #11. Ouch.
Two straight days.
Matsuyama gets to -4, I like him a lot for at least a playoff
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 19, 2022, 03:54:51 PM
Matsuyama gets to -4, I like him a lot for at least a playoff
I was just thinking if that will be good enough?
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 03:57:10 PM
I was just thinking if that will be good enough?
He just hit a beautiful chunk
This is such a classic New England style course , with double bogey lurking everywhere . Impressive how the leaders have held their games together so far .
Wow....Hideki missed a huge opportunity there.
ZZZZZ!!!!
What a huge swing there. At a 108 yrd hole today.
Everybody but Z feeling the pressure. Still a lot of golf to be played.
Fitzpatrick wheels starting to come off wagon....
Quote from: tower912 on June 19, 2022, 04:05:27 PM
Everybody but Z feeling the pressure.
That lasted one swing.
Quote from: tower912 on June 19, 2022, 04:07:35 PM
That lasted one swing.
LOL!!
Can Scheffler get it together?
Quote from: tower912 on June 19, 2022, 04:07:35 PM
That lasted one swing.
But the rough is not difficult enough........ cost Scheffler a shot on 10 and probably Will on 12.
Will Z turning into Ben Crenshaw, he is going to have a few 5 to 6 footers down the stretch and we'll see how he does.
Quote from: nyg on June 19, 2022, 04:12:49 PM
But the rough is not difficult enough........ cost Scheffler a shot on 10 and probably Will on 12.
Will Z turning into Ben Crenshaw, he is going to have a few 5 to 6 footers down the stretch and we'll see how he does.
That was the heavy stuff and nowhere near the fairway.
Good bogey.
Can Z putt well enough for 6 holes and get his first major?
That 65 by Hideki probably isn't enough but a heckuva an effort
Sweet Jesus! Fk.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 04:17:31 PM
That was the heavy stuff and nowhere near the fairway.
That's why they call it second cut of rough, which is brutal at US Opens, and yes it was about 15 feet from fairway.
Told you watch out for tee shots on 12 and 13 and Will just putting drives in the rough.
Fairways and greens....... Let's go for a three man playoff. Fun.
Omg. Brutal! Could-3 be enough to get Matsuysma in a playoff.
Huge putt for Scheffler on 14.
Whoa!!! BAM putt there for Fitz!
Fitzpatrick. Stones.
Wow Fitzy
Amazing!! Now that was clutch!
Wow. A couple of great putts on 13.
Huge answer by Z.
LIV golf was way better than this.
You can't really ask for a better finish. Scheffler with a big miss though on #14.
Jeeeez, that was classic. Again, Will has made three long putts on back nine, which he never does. Very gutsy, let's see how he putts down the stretch.
Like a three man match play now.
Quote from: tower912 on June 19, 2022, 04:35:59 PM
LIV golf was way better than this.
HA!! This is awesome stuff I must say.
Two critical misses by Scheffler. I expect Fitz to birdie 14.
I meant Zalatoris. :)
Quote from: nyg on June 19, 2022, 04:37:28 PM
Jeeeez, that was classic. Again, Will has made three long putts on back nine, which he never does. Very gutsy, let's see how he putts down the stretch.
Like a three man match play now.
He's better on the longer putts than short ones, especially if it is slower
Rory at -2 with 3 holes left.
Find a way to get 2 birdies and maybe.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 19, 2022, 04:44:25 PM
He's better on the longer putts than short ones, especially if it is slower
He is awesome at lags, but 15 feet in and he is at bottom of PGA tour.
He has made three putts over that on back nine, but just missed a golden one on 14.
Once he gets over that, watch out.
None of the top 3 took advantage of the Par 5.
Quote from: nyg on June 19, 2022, 04:51:14 PM
He is awesome at lags, but 15 feet in and he is at bottom of PGA tour.
He has made three putts over that on back nine, but just missed a golden one on 14.
Once he gets over that, watch out.
I don't think he will. Putting almost ended his career and if they push for an armlock ban and a lot of top players want it banned, I don't ever see him being a good short putter
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 19, 2022, 04:51:29 PM
None of the top 3 took advantage of the Par 5.
Nope.
Scheffler has to birdie 17 and maybe even 16 or 18.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 04:55:14 PM
Nope.
Scheffler has to birdie 17 and maybe even 16 or 18.
Most likely. But theres a chance -4 still ends up a playoff.
Fitz and Z are not proven on this stage yet to think that a +1 on the last 4 for both is outrageous.
Rory needs to birdie both 17 and 18 to have a punchers chance now.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 19, 2022, 04:56:55 PM
Most likely. But theres a chance -4 still ends up a playoff.
Fitz and Z are not proven on this stage yet to think that a +1 on the last 4 for both is outrageous.
Rory needs to biride both 17 and 18 to have a punchers chance now.
Good point.
So much for that goalpost graphic.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 05:01:07 PM
So much for that goalpost graphic.
Yup.
Fitz probably on hard pan, Will has nothing, nothing out of that rough. Believe 15 is 520 yards.
Good thing the rough is so easy.
Quote from: tower912 on June 19, 2022, 05:05:14 PM
Good thing the rough is so easy.
I think it could be a bit harder but maybe I'm wrong.
Tremendous shot there from Fitz.
Rory officially out of it.
3 horse race. Scottie could really use a bird on 17
It's over imo if Fitz birdies 15.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 05:07:01 PM
I think it could be a bit harder but maybe I'm wrong.
Tell that to Will and Scotty. Rough has cost each of them strokes on back nine and now Will probably the lead.
Double bogeys are one bad swing away. It isn't over.
Thats exactly what Scottie needed.
Now make the putt.
Quote from: tower912 on June 19, 2022, 05:13:23 PM
Double bogeys are one bad swing away. It isn't over.
I just think a birdie on 15, in potentially this fashion, changes everything .
Huge. Dead center too.
Fitzpatrick vs. Scheffler. Think Zalatoris may be dead in the water.
Wow fitzy
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 05:11:07 PM
It's over imo if Fitz birdies 15.
Not over, but shows lies after tee shots are crucial. Hard pan vs deep rough.
Ain't over.
Just kidding. What a shot from Zalatoris
Hell of a bounceback shot by Z
Make this putt now.
Zalatoris is a very entertaining player. Incredible talent.
Fantastic birdie on 16 from Z.
Still a 3 horse race.
Lets go
Not sure Fitz will bogey either of these.
So Z and Scottie will be pressed to get to -6
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 19, 2022, 05:20:28 PM
Zalatoris is a very entertaining player. Incredible talent.
Agreed. The kid has serious moxie.
Damn, Scottie almost had it.
Don't think -5 is gonna be good enough.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 19, 2022, 05:32:16 PM
Damn, Scottie almost had it.
Don't think -5 is gonna be good enough.
True. Z needs this one.
Scheffler choked
Damn Z.
Fitz in really good shape now.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 19, 2022, 05:33:14 PM
Scheffler choked
He'll certainly remember +3 the last two days on #11.
Yup Fitz in defense mode. Smart putt.
Gonna force Z to get that birdie
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 19, 2022, 05:33:59 PM
Damn Z.
Fitz in really good shape now.
Ya..... :(
We need a meltdown on 18. :).
Ohhhhh boy...
OMG!!!!
Why just why???,
:)
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 05:35:50 PM
Ya..... :(
We need a meltdown on 18. :).
Well there it was.
Absolutely no idea why he did that.
Somewhat less than over.
Three way playoff plz
Fitz with the VandeVeld move on 18 tee...
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 19, 2022, 05:38:03 PM
Well there it was.
Absolutely no idea why he did that.
There are football fields right. Incredible.
He does have a shot though.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 05:40:26 PM
There are football fields right. Incredible.
Yeah so much for him going into defensive mode ha.
I was certain he was gonna take the safe space and get a par.
Now if Z gets a birdie he might lose.
Clutch
What a shot.
Scottie just got the nail in coffin.
Z gonna need that bird
Phenomenal response. Wow. Gotta give him major props there.
Fitz brilliant approach
That my friends was a US Open history shot by Fitz. Curve it around the bunker face, awesome.
Not putting contest for Will.
This is exactly what the PGA tour needed. Incredible final day at a major with two young guys neck and neck.
Two lies really helped Fitz but those were still clutch shots.
Alright Z
You got one shot. Putt of a lifetime.
Z can do this!! LET'S GO!
Ughhh.....heartbreaker.
Damn
Fitz earns it . Job well done he deserves it
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 19, 2022, 05:39:58 PM
Fitz with the VandeVeld move on 18 tee...
Vandeveld just won.
Will had four birdie putts on last four holes, made one.
Good for Fitz, good for my wallet and good for golf. That was fun.
Z has mastered the 2nd place finish at a major.
He will get his W soon.
Leaving the birdie putt short on 17 was the bigger miss than 18.
MU82, you did not get a chance to study Fitzpatrick's chipping today.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 19, 2022, 05:47:55 PM
Fitz earns it . Job well done he deserves it
No doubt.
Zalatoris choked
Northwestern's finest. Go Cats.
Fitzpatrick hit 17 greens in regulation on Sunday at the US Open. That's some incredible ball striking.
Zalatoris hit some incredible shots, too - but that putting stroke? No bueno.
Former neighbor Nick Hardy finished +2. Tied for 14th. Won 241,000. Way to go, Nick!
Quote from: nyg on June 19, 2022, 05:48:17 PM
Vandeveld just won.
Will had four birdie putts on last four holes, made one.
Good for Fitz, good for my wallet and good for golf. That was fun.
It was incredible how Fitz came back from the blunder . A true champion.
Fitz has gotten much longer off the tee it seems to me. I'd like to see Brookline added to the USOPEN rotation.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 07:30:27 PM
Fitz has gotten much longer off the tee it seems to me. I'd like to see Brookline added to the USOPEN rotation.
They had some stats on The Golf Channel that showed Fitz average club head speed went up from 112 to over 116 MPH with some swings in the 119 range . That definitely has helped his cause
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2022, 07:30:27 PM
Fitz has gotten much longer off the tee it seems to me. I'd like to see Brookline added to the USOPEN rotation.
Brookline is too easy
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 19, 2022, 07:46:05 PM
Brookline is too easy
They could make it a little tougher. :)
I thought it was a well balanced course.
Woulda been a much tougher Sunday had there not been overnight rain. Winner probably would have been -2ish
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 19, 2022, 07:57:25 PM
I thought it was a well balanced course.
Woulda been a much tougher Sunday had there not been overnight rain. Winner probably would have been -2ish
Yeah, it really held up well. My hunch is, the club isn't keen on opening the doors to the USGA or any organization for that matter on a regular basis. Oakland Hills is similar in that regard, though they've been added back to the rota. Even then, they have a 16-year window between opens and the 4 amateur events they're hosting don't need infrastructure.
Pebble, Oakmont and Pinehurst look like real anchor sites. All 3 have the land to accommodate the USGA city and hospitality that gets set up. Pebble doesn't close until a week before the open and I'm prettt sure Pinehurst is open for the most part, too. Oakmont prides itself on being a major venue. It's a big commitment and members have to be willing to sacrifice a lot to host these events.
Shinnecock will get its share of US Opens as will Winged Foot but those places are only willing to go once a decade or so to accommodate members. I hope the USGA keeps trying new spots like Chambers and Erin Hills and LACC next year. The move towards a regular rota seems to be gaining steam but I think that cuts at their purpose of growing the game.
*2028 is open and it sounds like it might be Winged Foot since they couldn't have crowds in 2020
Quote from: tower912 on June 19, 2022, 05:49:56 PM
MU82, you did not get a chance to study Fitzpatrick's chipping today.
His approach shots were too damn good!
During a commercial, I played a YouTube video for my brother to show him how Fitzpatrick chips.
Otherwise, thoroughly enjoyed watching an exciting round with my brother and son -- two other fathers I love.
Seemed like a lot of commercials on the broadcast , I guess others felt the same way . NBC had picked up a big contract that Fox had signed and had to get some payback.
https://golf.com/news/usga-ceo-nbc-us-open-commercial-outrage/
Fitzpatrick behind the scenes celebration story .
Also I did not realize he is only 27. Seems like he has been around a long time .
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/behind-the-scenes-matt-fitzpatrick-u-s--open-celebration?utm_medium=email&utm_source=062022&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM26527&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5