1. Had a very pleasant NMD experience. About 25 of us.
2. If anybody complains about anything this game, they are a complete and utter moron and/or loser.
3. Hack a Jayce and made them pay.
4. A week of rest and refocus led to fresh legs and inspired play.
5. Nobody can accuse Markus of forcing it today.
6. OK, maybe Sacar forced some stuff. More importantly, some good shots didn't go.
7. Jayce> Theo today
8. Revenge is sweet. Next.
Quote from: tower912 on February 09, 2020, 01:13:41 PM
1. Had a very pleasant NMD experience. About 25 of us.
2. If anybody complains about anything this game, they are a complete and utter moron and/or loser.
3. Hack a Jayce and made them pay.
4. A week of rest and refocus led to fresh legs and inspired play.
5. Nobody can accuse Markus of forcing it today.
6. OK, maybe Sacar forced some stuff. More importantly, some good shots didn't go.
7. Jayce> Theo today
8. Revenge is sweet. Next.
I though MH forced 3 or 4 shots, but Wojo had a chat with and he stopped.
Great team win.
Defense was very good after the first 8 minutes of giving up paint points.
Play D like that, tough to beat.
Nova is house money Wednesday. They are probably due to shoot lights out, but lets see what happens.
Outstanding performance. Trolls are silent. I've enjoyed some cocktails. Can't ask for much more.
Need Seton Hall to come back to the pack somehow. I want MU to have a chance at first place on Senior Day. We have to take care of business though and that started these past few weeks. Need to keep it up and take care of Villanova now.
Impressive all around.
Great team win
However,
5. Nobody can accuse Markus of forcing it today. ??
I think all but about 2 of his shots were forces. Hes bEen pretty good about it this year but was clearly off his game today and i believe was trying to shoot his way into the game. Wojo handled it very well imo, as did Markus. Great win!
That was a great win. Perhaps our best yet. Balanced effort offensively. Strong D.
45% from 3
28 Free throws attempted, only 8 yielded.
Peak performance.
Now if Phil can hold off Father Time and pull out a win at Pebble this afternoon my weekend will have been perfect.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 09, 2020, 01:28:20 PM
Great team win
However,
5. Nobody can accuse Markus of forcing it today. ??
I think all but about 2 of his shots were forces. Hes bEen pretty good about it this year but was clearly off his game today and i believe was trying to shoot his way into the game. Wojo handled it very well imo, as did Markus. Great win!
Yep...Wojo had a chat with him and MH was given an extended rest.
Very impressed with the Defense.
Nice job coach, and players!
Really not much to say. Dominated both ends of the court and on the bench. Bardo mentioned a number of times how well prepared Marquette was defensively.
Even though Wojo was not a fan, I laughed when Koby mocked the Butler flop.
Loved the trapping
Were are better across the board than Butler
Why hinkle was so frustarting
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if the incoming recruits ever comment on social media after a big MU victory? I would have to think that watching the team's recent play gets them excited.
Quote from: bananahammock on February 09, 2020, 01:30:13 PM
Yep...Wojo had a chat with him and MH was given an extended rest.
Wonder what would have happened if game was tied/we were behind at that time?
Nonetheless, nice to see Wojo finally take this action. Better late than never.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 09, 2020, 01:32:46 PM
Even though Wojo was not a fan, I laughed when Koby mocked the Butler flop.
Showing ups Ref's is Foolish for an upper classman.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 09, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Wonder what would have happened if game was tied/we were behind at that time?
Nonetheless, nice to see Wojo finally take this action. Better late than never.
+1. Credit to Wojo. Wondering if the mask is affecting MH shot? Hasn't been great from 3 with that thing on.
Remember when some fans thought Jayce couldn't play when he came back after his injury?
Good times.
Patience is a virtue
Quote from: Loose Cannon on February 09, 2020, 01:38:34 PM
Showing ups Ref's is Foolish for an upper classman.
Oh I know. I still laughed.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 09, 2020, 01:33:21 PM
Loved the trapping
Were are better across the board than Butler
Why hinkle was so frustarting
Keep working on those haikus, you'll get there
Read the Butler board.
They obviously hated the officiating.
More surprising is how much they apparently hate us.
Markus, Wojo and Theo taking bullets from all angles
A few shots tossed at Koby even.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 09, 2020, 01:46:03 PM
Read the Butler board.
They obviously hated the officiating.
More surprising is how much they apparently hate us.
Markus, Wojo and Theo taking bullets from all angles
A few shots tossed at Koby even.
Butler fans are an underrated hateable lot
Quote from: bananahammock on February 09, 2020, 01:30:13 PM
Yep...Wojo had a chat with him and MH was given an extended rest.
Will never say we are a better team without Markus but at one point he sent him to tge scorers table n then we were playing so well he pulled him back. Not sure how many times that has happened in the last 3.5 yrs
We were prepared today. The rest was needed and the game plan well executed. Our defensive rotations were great but having multiple scoring threats has opened things up for everyone. With Markus, Sacar, Koby and Brendan all contributing.
Jayce looked great and probably is SOTG. However, I finally saw Theo do what he should be doing — catch and shoot. You put the ball on the floor and you turn it over.
Catch and shoot. Both of them did that today and, guess what, we won. We dominated inside and outside.
Nice job guys
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 09, 2020, 01:46:03 PM
Read the Butler board.
They obviously hated the officiating.
More surprising is how much they apparently hate us.
Markus, Wojo and Theo taking bullets from all angles
A few shots tossed at Koby even.
I can only stand about 65% of the posters on MU Scoop, why would I want to check out a different school's board?
If Theo took an actual bullet, he'd still get called for a foul.
I'm sure Koby took fewer shots on Butler's board than this one.
There, I feel better. Gonna go shovel
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 09, 2020, 01:48:48 PM
Will never say we are a better team without Markus but at one point he sent him to tge scorers table n then we were playing so well he pulled him back. Not sure how many times that has happened in the last 3.5 yrs
Pretty sure that was a function of the clock getting under the 8 minute media timeout, so, he was coming back to bench at next stoppage of play anyway.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 09, 2020, 01:46:03 PM
Read the Butler board.
They obviously hated the officiating.
More surprising is how much they apparently hate us.
Markus, Wojo and Theo taking bullets from all angles
A few shots tossed at Koby even.
I thought there were quite a few home friendly calls but I guess you take the good with the bad.
Really solid effort all around today - Wojo had a week to prepare and he did. Helps when 2 of 3 of Sacar/Koby/Bailey are hitting.
@Nova is complete house money. Win there are we're in the protected seed conversation. But even lose there and we're still only going to be talking about seeding this month - that's nice.
Only downside is we need the crowd in their seats at the start of the game. I'm sure the snow slowed some down.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 09, 2020, 01:48:08 PM
Butler fans are an underrated hateable lot
Luckiest fin fanbase in the history of any sport. 7-8 years ago Butler was in the Horizon league, how the F they wound up in the Big East is almost incomprehensible.
Conspiracy: Call me crazy, but I think the Jump Around guy (Rick Smith) was not in attendance and the video crew inserted old clips of him Jumping Around.
Also, while Wojo was boo'd at the intro, the boo-ometer was not as high as it was last week. Getting hard to boo a coach who has won 6 of 7.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 09, 2020, 02:19:57 PM
Conspiracy: Call me crazy, but I think the Jump Around guy (Rick Smith) was not in attendance and the video crew inserted old clips of him Jumping Around.
Also, while Wojo was boo'd at the intro, the boo-ometer was not as high as it was last week. Getting hard to boo a coach who has won 6 of 7.
Your conspiracy is correct.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 09, 2020, 02:04:05 PM
Luckiest fin fanbase in the history of any sport. 7-8 years ago Butler was in the Horizon league, how the F they wound up in the Big East is almost incomprehensible.
I don't care for them, but they had a long history of success in the 00s. Collier to Matta had Butler humming then Lickliter kept it going. He had a few mediocre years but still made 2 S16s in 5 years. 4 in a decade across 2 coaches in a conference like the Horizon is incredibly impressive. They were more deserving than Creighton based on results
The defensive effort was very encouraging. The team seems like it's gelling. Now Nova on the road...
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 09, 2020, 02:19:57 PM
Also, while Wojo was boo'd at the intro, the boo-ometer was not as high as it was last week. Getting hard to boo a coach who has won 6 of 7.
Pretty easy if your BB IQ is low.
Quote from: tower912 on February 09, 2020, 01:13:41 PM
1. Had a very pleasant NMD experience. About 25 of us.
2. If anybody complains about anything this game, they are a complete and utter moron and/or loser.
3. Hack a Jayce and made them pay.
4. A week of rest and refocus led to fresh legs and inspired play.
5. Nobody can accuse Markus of forcing it today.
6. OK, maybe Sacar forced some stuff. More importantly, some good shots didn't go.
7. Jayce> Theo today
8. Revenge is sweet. Next.
You mean there was a game? I was just there to drink beer and eat pizza.....
It was good pizza. And a pleasure to visit.
Quote from: tower912 on February 09, 2020, 01:13:41 PM
1. Had a very pleasant NMD experience. About 25 of us.
2. If anybody complains about anything this game, they are a complete and utter moron and/or loser.
3. Hack a Jayce and made them pay.
4. A week of rest and refocus led to fresh legs and inspired play.
5. Nobody can accuse Markus of forcing it today.
6. OK, maybe Sacar forced some stuff. More importantly, some good shots didn't go.
7. Jayce> Theo today
8. Revenge is sweet. Next.
Jayce and Brendan with strong games. Shots will fall from perimeter when shooting off of catch, make extra pass. Kobe and Markus forced some at times. Kobe can get a little too aggressive at times when his man scores or creates on the other end. As mentioned, Wojo put his arm around Markus and had a nice discussion. We were scoring, playing well, didn't need forced hero ball today. Many times MU has needed it and Markus has come through often. But didn't need it today. Cain may be one of the best mid range shooters on the team. His length and touch from 10-15.
At times too much dribble and ball pounding caused turnovers. Credit Butler there for taking advantage. We don't have good enough ball handlers for that. But need to be a little bit stronger on the ball.
Strong team effort, good depth. Very good game plan today. Lots of paint buckets and FT's.
On to the next one.
Quote from: CountryRoads on February 09, 2020, 02:20:45 PM
Your conspiracy is correct.
He's 69 years young, but he won't be around forever.
They need to start working on Hologram Jump Around Guy.
Quote from: lurch91 on February 09, 2020, 02:26:13 PM
You mean there was a game? I was just there to drink beer and eat pizza.....
Just like freshman year at Angelo's.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on February 09, 2020, 01:57:15 PM
Only downside is we need the crowd in there seats at the start of the game. I'm sure the snow slowed some down.
NMD was a clear success when that is the biggest downside.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 09, 2020, 02:19:57 PM
Conspiracy: Call me crazy, but I think the Jump Around guy (Rick Smith) was not in attendance and the video crew inserted old clips of him Jumping Around.
Also, while Wojo was boo'd at the intro, the boo-ometer was not as high as it was last week. Getting hard to boo a coach who has won 6 of 7.
I was in the section right next to the students by the Marquette bench, boos were coming from them. It was muffled, not very noticeable thankfully.
I'm curious for others take on this: I think Lavall Jordan is a dirty coach.
After the under-4 timeout, trailing by 14, they tried to intentionally foul Sacar, then intentionally fouled Jayce. I get it, their only theoretical way back in was for us to have empty trips and them to keep scoring, but this is a trend. The game was effectively over. They fouled Jayce three times spanning that timeout. They even fouled Markus in the backcourt down 19 with 2:42 to play.
The last time I saw a team so blatantly fouling in a game that was obviously lost was Butler last year when Howard got injured in this same game.
Is this a coincidence? Has anyone else paid close enough attention to Butler to see if they do this in other blowout losses? Fouling Jayce, even when the game is pretty much over, is one thing. Fouling Howard, who leads the country in free throws made? WTF, Lavall?
I never hear those students boo during the week night games.
Quote from: CrowdOf5 on February 09, 2020, 02:41:43 PM
I was in the section right next to the students by the Marquette bench, boos were coming from them. It was muffled, not very noticeable thankfully.
18 to 22 year olds are super sharp.....
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 09, 2020, 02:43:30 PM
I'm curious for others take on this: I think Lavall Jordan is a dirty coach.
After the under-4 timeout, trailing by 14, they tried to intentionally foul Sacar, then intentionally fouled Jayce. I get it, their only theoretical way back in was for us to have empty trips and them to keep scoring, but this is a trend. The game was effectively over. They fouled Jayce three times spanning that timeout. They even fouled Markus in the backcourt down 19 with 2:42 to play.
The last time I saw a team so blatantly fouling in a game that was obviously lost was Butler last year when Howard got injured in this same game.
Is this a coincidence? Has anyone else paid close enough attention to Butler to see if they do this in other blowout losses? Fouling Jayce, even when the game is pretty much over, is one thing. Fouling Howard, who leads the country in free throws made? WTF, Lavall?
I don't think there is anything dirty about intentionally fouling, especially a bad FT shooter. It's actually pretty smart.
Now, I was with my NMD group and was fairly far from the TV, so answer me this, brewski: Were the fouls overly aggressive? Was there intent to injure?
Quote from: MU82 on February 09, 2020, 02:54:18 PM
I don't think there is anything dirty about intentionally fouling, especially a bad FT shooter. It's actually pretty smart.
Now, I was with my NMD group and was fairly far from the TV, so answer me this, brewski: Were the fouls overly aggressive? Was there intent to injure?
I didn't think there was anything dirty about the strategy or the fouls themselves. Fouling bad foul shooters and hoping they miss was Butler's only hope at that point. Kudos to Jayce for making them pay for it.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 09, 2020, 02:43:30 PM
I'm curious for others take on this: I think Lavall Jordan is a dirty coach.
After the under-4 timeout, trailing by 14, they tried to intentionally foul Sacar, then intentionally fouled Jayce. I get it, their only theoretical way back in was for us to have empty trips and them to keep scoring, but this is a trend. The game was effectively over. They fouled Jayce three times spanning that timeout. They even fouled Markus in the backcourt down 19 with 2:42 to play.
The last time I saw a team so blatantly fouling in a game that was obviously lost was Butler last year when Howard got injured in this same game.
Is this a coincidence? Has anyone else paid close enough attention to Butler to see if they do this in other blowout losses? Fouling Jayce, even when the game is pretty much over, is one thing. Fouling Howard, who leads the country in free throws made? WTF, Lavall?
How is that "dirty?"
Quote from: MU82 on February 09, 2020, 02:54:18 PM
I don't think there is anything dirty about intentionally fouling, especially a bad FT shooter. It's actually pretty smart.
Now, I was with my NMD group and was fairly far from the TV, so answer me this, brewski: Were the fouls overly aggressive? Was there intent to injure?
No intent to injure. One seemed obviously intentional but nothing dirty.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 09, 2020, 02:43:30 PM
I'm curious for others take on this: I think Lavall Jordan is a dirty coach.
After the under-4 timeout, trailing by 14, they tried to intentionally foul Sacar, then intentionally fouled Jayce. I get it, their only theoretical way back in was for us to have empty trips and them to keep scoring, but this is a trend. The game was effectively over. They fouled Jayce three times spanning that timeout. They even fouled Markus in the backcourt down 19 with 2:42 to play.
The last time I saw a team so blatantly fouling in a game that was obviously lost was Butler last year when Howard got injured in this same game.
Is this a coincidence? Has anyone else paid close enough attention to Butler to see if they do this in other blowout losses? Fouling Jayce, even when the game is pretty much over, is one thing. Fouling Howard, who leads the country in free throws made? WTF, Lavall?
Not dirty
Not dirty, co-sign.
Not to mention, like with 2 and change to go, he put in his scrubs .. which let MU do the same. He surrendered quite early.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 09, 2020, 02:43:30 PM
I'm curious for others take on this: I think Lavall Jordan is a dirty coach.
After the under-4 timeout, trailing by 14, they tried to intentionally foul Sacar, then intentionally fouled Jayce. I get it, their only theoretical way back in was for us to have empty trips and them to keep scoring, but this is a trend. The game was effectively over. They fouled Jayce three times spanning that timeout. They even fouled Markus in the backcourt down 19 with 2:42 to play.
The last time I saw a team so blatantly fouling in a game that was obviously lost was Butler last year when Howard got injured in this same game.
Is this a coincidence? Has anyone else paid close enough attention to Butler to see if they do this in other blowout losses? Fouling Jayce, even when the game is pretty much over, is one thing. Fouling Howard, who leads the country in free throws made? WTF, Lavall?
I went back and looked at the play by play and the foul on Markus was when we were up 8 with 47 seconds left, not totally egregious. If I remember right McDermott was out of control and should have been assessed an intentional.
I do laugh at Jordan getting techs in back to back MU games I assume for complaining on Markus calls, who you injured last year intentionally fouling.
Quote from: tower912 on February 09, 2020, 01:13:41 PM
1. Had a very pleasant NMD experience. About 25 of us.
2. If anybody complains about anything this game, they are a complete and utter moron and/or loser.
3. Hack a Jayce and made them pay.
4. A week of rest and refocus led to fresh legs and inspired play.
5. Nobody can accuse Markus of forcing it today.
6. OK, maybe Sacar forced some stuff. More importantly, some good shots didn't go.
7. Jayce> Theo today
8. Revenge is sweet. Next.
1. Similar. Again, I "got volunteered" to run the Charlotte session. Glad I did. We had fun. Lots of cheering and high-fiving throughout.
2. Yep. We've won 6 of 7, all great wins. Even 18-22 year olds should be smart enough to not boo the effort that Wojo is getting out of this team. If they're not, let 'em go to Madison or some other crap school.
3. Loved seeing Jayce swish those FTs. He was very strong today.
4. No doubt, though we looked a little rusty early offensively. It's always the trade-off.
5. Markus forced 3-4 shots and a couple of drives. That goes with having an elite scorer. Happens to others around the country, and even in the NBA. Still frustrating when it does, but you gotta take a little bad to go with the good. Glad to see Wojo coach him up.
6. Rough offensive game for Sacar. He was still a plus-16, still a contributor.
7. As always, Wojo had a very nice feel for how to manage the 5. Jayce had one of his best games for us. I'd take him over Morrow 100 times out of 100.
8. Yessir. Look forward to beating them in the BET again!
More ...
Bailey was very active. Best Warrior on the court today.
McEwen gets a little wild - sometimes I think he's trying to dribble the ball
through the floor. But he hit two 3s that said, "Thanks for playing, Butler ... accept your parting gifts on the way out!"
Had Butler done anything after the Jordan T, folks would have been talking about how he motivated them to greatness. But we outscored them 877-3 after that, so ... I wonder how often the "motivational T" actually works. I'm thinking not very often.
Exteremely strong game for Wojo. Baldwin earned almost everything he got, and we kept everybody else in check. Generally good ball movement on offense. A couple nice out-of-bounds plays. Felt we had the game in control from the midway point of the first half.
That's 6 out of 7, folks. Climb aboard the bandwagon!
Quote from: tower912 on February 09, 2020, 02:35:46 PM
Just like freshman year at Angelo's.
I had my 1st grinder at Angelos. Heros back east. That and a small pizza. Boy, I could eat back then.
Booyah
Announcers gave tons of love to MUs gameplanning ——- fwiw
Bailey was a stud today. The guy I thought they signed a few years ago. He's getting a feel for the game again and his shot was falling. Almost had a double double. LaVall works the officials and is borderline a lot of the time in my opinion. Could have picked up a second T,
Great game today. My buddy asked me on the way in, if they win today...I said "yeah, they are going to win comfortably, that bye week will do them wonders". When Bailey is playing confidently and making shots, this is a completely different(and very dangerous) MU team.
Not a great time to be playing Nova..they have lost 2 of their last three at home and are n a 3 game losing streak. Yikes. Gonna be tough. But let's see if they can rise to the occasion.
Loving the D. Have to believe that this was the type of defense Wojo has been desperately seeking for years.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 09, 2020, 02:58:09 PM
No intent to injure. One seemed obviously intentional but nothing dirty.
For those of you too young, there is even a term for it. Hack a Shaq. Coaches did it all the time to Shaq at the end of games. NBA eventually put rules in preventing it.
Kudos to Jayce for making them pay for it.
I'd MUCH RATHER play a team that's on a 3 game skid, maybe battling doubts and shaken confidence, than one that's won 6 of 7, playing with confidence and clicking.
Quote from: connie on February 09, 2020, 03:43:53 PM
Loving the D. Have to believe that this was the type of defense Wojo has been desperately seeking for years.
I have a feeling that, barring exceptional circumstances, we will not see small guards recruited going forward.
I do not remember every game like some do, but this was as complete of a performance I can remember in quite some time. Not a negative word can be uttered after that win. Job very well done.
Quote from: tower912 on February 09, 2020, 03:45:57 PM
I have a feeling that, barring exceptional circumstances, we will not see small guards recruited going forward.
I hope he won't pass on a potentially elite scorer just because that player might be small.
Markus also is an improved defender. Drew a big charge today, and seems to do that pretty often.
It was an unwinnable situation having Markus and Rowsey on the court at the same time. But if the rest of the team is made up of long-armed switchables, I don't see why any coach (not just Wojo) would pass on a potential 20+ ppg scorer.
Couple of quick comments - no excuse in my book, but butts were not in the seats at 11am due to (as one poster noted) weather and the 11am start time.
Boos we're not loud, and (as another poster implied) could be confused with wooojjjjj
Spent halftime yelling at my nephew about his idiotic take on Woj. (He's not on scoop, but could be).
And damn did Jayce and Brendan look good.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on February 09, 2020, 03:50:30 PM
Spent halftime yelling at my nephew about his idiotic take on Woj. (He's not on scoop, but could be).
Cracked me up.
Ryan Conway, MU's latest offer and recruit in today's house, is only 6' and 160#.
https://twitter.com/CoachLochte/status/1226267303177834511/photo/1
Quote from: MU82 on February 09, 2020, 03:48:27 PM
I hope he won't pass on a potentially elite scorer just because that player might be small.
Markus also is an improved defender. Drew a big charge today, and seems to do that pretty often.
It was an unwinnable situation having Markus and Rowsey on the court at the same time. But if the rest of the team is made up of long-armed switchables, I don't see why any coach (not just Wojo) would pass on a potential 20+ ppg scorer.
Markus is clearly 'exceptional circumstances'. Big East is a big guard league. If the guard isn't 6'3, he better have exceptional skills.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on February 09, 2020, 03:50:30 PM
Couple of quick comments - no excuse in my book, but butts were not in the seats at 11am due to (as one poster noted) weather and the 11am start time.
Boos we're not loud, and (as another poster implied) could be confused with wooojjjjj
Spent halftime yelling at my nephew about his idiotic take on Woj. (He's not on scoop, but could be).
And damn did Jayce and Brendan look good.
I think a lot of it has to do with people underestimating how long it takes to get into Fiserv. I think it takes much longer than the BC.
Great game from Brendan. One of Wojo's best coaching performances I feel. Seems like they are really hitting their stride.
Quote from: tower912 on February 09, 2020, 03:54:34 PM
Markus is clearly 'exceptional circumstances'. Big East is a big guard league. If the guard isn't 6'3, he better have exceptional skills.
On this we agree, my friend.
All things equal, 6-3 is better than 5-11. If 5-11 player is a little better on O, 6-3 is still better. If 5-11 can be Markus Howard and 6-3 is merely good, I'm happy to take 5-11.
Awesome defense, great coaching. 40 minutes of solid game. Just enough errors to coach!
Paging Mike Deane's sunglasses...Come in Mike Deane's Sunglasses...
My issue is fouling in games that are unquestionably over. Why direct your team to commit wholly unnecessary fouls? Fouling the guy who's made more free throws than anyone else in the country when you're down NINETEEN with 2:42 to play? There's no winnable scenario there. It's just pointless aggressive play with no positive end goal.
Maybe it's two isolated scenarios, but I can't remember a team consistently fouling well after the game was no longer in doubt. I'm not saying the players are dirty, I don't think they are, but continuing to direct that kind of contact can lead to injury, intended or not.
Quote from: ManeCity83 on February 09, 2020, 03:52:01 PM
Ryan Conway, MU's latest offer and recruit in today's house, is only 6' and 160#.
https://twitter.com/CoachLochte/status/1226267303177834511/photo/1
Sounds like a Taller Markus to me.
Incredible gameplan by Wojo & company and best team performance of the season. That lineup of Koby, GE, Anim, BB and Theo was an absolute wall defensively. Great size and athleticism. This is what I hoped for/looked forward to with the departure of the Hausers.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 09, 2020, 04:49:28 PM
My issue is fouling in games that are unquestionably over. Why direct your team to commit wholly unnecessary fouls? Fouling the guy who's made more free throws than anyone else in the country when you're down NINETEEN with 2:42 to play? There's no winnable scenario there. It's just pointless aggressive play with no positive end goal.
Maybe it's two isolated scenarios, but I can't remember a team consistently fouling well after the game was no longer in doubt. I'm not saying the players are dirty, I don't think they are, but continuing to direct that kind of contact can lead to injury, intended or not.
Today I felt it was a last ditch effort to get some momentum change. They moved on both because we hit free throws and their guys were in foul trouble. Don't fault him for trying.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 09, 2020, 04:49:28 PM
My issue is fouling in games that are unquestionably over. Why direct your team to commit wholly unnecessary fouls? Fouling the guy who's made more free throws than anyone else in the country when you're down NINETEEN with 2:42 to play? There's no winnable scenario there. It's just pointless aggressive play with no positive end goal.
Maybe it's two isolated scenarios, but I can't remember a team consistently fouling well after the game was no longer in doubt. I'm not saying the players are dirty, I don't think they are, but continuing to direct that kind of contact can lead to injury, intended or not.
It isn't a good strategy. But it's not a dirty tactic, and it certainly doesn't mean Jordan is a "dirty coach."
He was fouling way too late. Given their history, I have a feeling there is a pattern.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 09, 2020, 01:28:38 PM
That was a great win. Perhaps our best yet. Balanced effort offensively. Strong D.
45% from 3
28 Free throws attempted, only 8 yielded.
Peak performance.
This. Great team win on both ends of the floor. Bailey outstanding. Kobe great! Go Marquette!
Quote from: tower912 on February 09, 2020, 01:13:41 PM
1. Had a very pleasant NMD experience. About 25 of us.
2. If anybody complains about anything this game, they are a complete and utter moron and/or loser.
3. Hack a Jayce and made them pay.
4. A week of rest and refocus led to fresh legs and inspired play.
5. Nobody can accuse Markus of forcing it today.
6. OK, maybe Sacar forced some stuff. More importantly, some good shots didn't go.
7. Jayce> Theo today
8. Revenge is sweet. Next.
2. Have to complain about something - Koby dribbling, dribbling, dribbling into trouble.
3. Jayce's FT form looks MUCH better than earlier this season. It looked like a shot-put formerly, and now he's got some wrist action.
7. And most days lately. Think grad transfer again for "backup."
Can this table be run? Let's go!
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 09, 2020, 04:49:28 PM
My issue is fouling in games that are unquestionably over. Why direct your team to commit wholly unnecessary fouls? Fouling the guy who's made more free throws than anyone else in the country when you're down NINETEEN with 2:42 to play? There's no winnable scenario there. It's just pointless aggressive play with no positive end goal.
Maybe it's two isolated scenarios, but I can't remember a team consistently fouling well after the game was no longer in doubt. I'm not saying the players are dirty, I don't think they are, but continuing to direct that kind of contact can lead to injury, intended or not.
I get what you are saying, but I think this is more of an example of playing without the scoreboard in mind then a dirty tactic.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 09, 2020, 01:46:03 PM
Read the Butler board.
They obviously hated the officiating.
More surprising is how much they apparently hate us.
Markus, Wojo and Theo taking bullets from all angles
A few shots tossed at Koby even.
Interesting. Because they wouldn't be in the BEast were it not for us. A simple Thank You would suffice.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 09, 2020, 02:43:30 PM
I'm curious for others take on this: I think Lavall Jordan is a dirty coach.
After the under-4 timeout, trailing by 14, they tried to intentionally foul Sacar, then intentionally fouled Jayce. I get it, their only theoretical way back in was for us to have empty trips and them to keep scoring, but this is a trend. The game was effectively over. They fouled Jayce three times spanning that timeout. They even fouled Markus in the backcourt down 19 with 2:42 to play.
The last time I saw a team so blatantly fouling in a game that was obviously lost was Butler last year when Howard got injured in this same game.
Is this a coincidence? Has anyone else paid close enough attention to Butler to see if they do this in other blowout losses? Fouling Jayce, even when the game is pretty much over, is one thing. Fouling Howard, who leads the country in free throws made? WTF, Lavall?
Disagree brew. Butler's press was effective. They forced passes to Jayce and immediately fouled. He made 'em pay so great for him. Also Jordan emptied the bench with more than 2 minutes to go. Wojo looked up and then looked down the sidelines toward him. Butler played it all just fine.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on February 09, 2020, 05:22:32 PM
2. Have to complain about something - Koby dribbling, dribbling, dribbling into trouble.
He chains bad possessions. He'll dribble into trouble and turn it over, then he'll try to make up for it on the defensive end and end up fouling, and he'll try to make up for *that* by really forcing it on offense.
He's a nice player, and I look forward to him improving his mental game.
Quote from: Cheeks on February 09, 2020, 01:15:14 PM
I though MH forced 3 or 4 shots, but Wojo had a chat with and he stopped.
Great team win.
I would have said 2 or 3 rather than 3 or 4, but you're right that he did force a couple and that it stopped after the Wojo chat. I much prefer when we are more balanced like this. Butler did a great job guarding Markus and the rest of the guys stepped up.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 09, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Wonder what would have happened if game was tied/we were behind at that time?
Nonetheless, nice to see Wojo finally take this action. Better late than never.
If Wojo would of had that chat with Markus the first Butler game it would of been a W for us.
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1226670342573371392?s=21
Quote from: muhoops1 on February 09, 2020, 03:37:46 PM
Bailey was a stud today. The guy I thought they signed a few years ago. He's getting a feel for the game again and his shot was falling. Almost had a double double. LaVall works the officials and is borderline a lot of the time in my opinion. Could have picked up a second T,
I was really worried about Bailey after the first ten games of the season. Man has he proved me wrong. He is having a breakout year and was huge today!
Quote from: NCMUFan on February 09, 2020, 06:47:49 PM
If Wojo would of had that chat with Markus the first Butler game it would of been a W for us.
Maybe, maybe not. Impossible to know
Quote from: JWags85 on February 09, 2020, 02:23:43 PM
I don't care for them, but they had a long history of success in the 00s. Collier to Matta had Butler humming then Lickliter kept it going. He had a few mediocre years but still made 2 S16s in 5 years. 4 in a decade across 2 coaches in a conference like the Horizon is incredibly impressive. They were more deserving than Creighton based on results
More deserving in regards to investment into the program n national success in sports or being BE ready in general? Hell no they were Horizon league in every aspect, still are in reality.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 09, 2020, 07:24:24 PM
More deserving in regards to investment into the program n national success in sports or being BE ready in general? Hell no they were Horizon league in every aspect, still are in reality.
So, not much different then DePaul...right?? They aren't Big East worthy either. 8-)
Quote from: muguru on February 09, 2020, 08:27:36 PM
So, not much different then DePaul...right?? They aren't Big East worthy either. 8-)
More like a Dayton
LaVall Jordan complained about the FT discrepancy today then admitted Butler "just has to fight through that" and yet when MU played Butler earlier this year they shot a ton more FTs than MU.
Quote from: jsglow on February 09, 2020, 05:36:56 PM
Disagree brew. Butler's press was effective. They forced passes to Jayce and immediately fouled. He made 'em pay so great for him. Also Jordan emptied the bench with more than 2 minutes to go. Wojo looked up and then looked down the sidelines toward him. Butler played it all just fine.
I totally agree with this take, and would say that MU did not handle the press so well. Seemed like players, especially Markus, picked up their dribble to quickly. I thought Jayce came back to receive a pass well, and, yes, he made Butler pay for fouling him. (To me, the most striking stat of the day is that Markus missed more free throws than Jayce.)
Our wonderful win just had nice 2-minute run on SportsCenter. Also featured in The Lead on bottom line.
Quote from: MU82 on February 09, 2020, 10:39:53 PM
Our wonderful win just had nice 2-minute run on SportsCenter. Also featured in The Lead on bottom line.
One of the benefits of being ranked...today, Butler got coverage because they are ranked (and got beat by MU); this week, MU will get that coverage, as I expect we will be ranked tomorrow afternoon.
Marquette had 16 assists as a team -- including 6 from Koby, 3 each from Markus and Sacar and 2 from Symir. That's the highest total in Big East play so far this season. It's great to see such good ball movement and everyone getting involved. Marquette also had its best defensive game since the Villanova win. Hope we can keep it rolling.
Quote from: mug644 on February 09, 2020, 10:45:41 PM
One of the benefits of being ranked...today, Butler got coverage because they are ranked (and got beat by MU); this week, MU will get that coverage, as I expect we will be ranked tomorrow afternoon.
Yep. Butler didn't lose because they were ranked. Always better to be ranked. Always.
Could someone please tell me what "NM" and "NMD" stand for? Thanks
Quote from: harryp on February 09, 2020, 11:06:46 PM
Could someone please tell me what "NM" and "NMD" stand for? Thanks
NMD = National Marquette Day
NM = never mind
Quote from: The Lens on February 09, 2020, 02:44:18 PM
I never hear those students boo during the week night games.
Put their $5 a game arses in the uppers.
Yeah really nothing to complain about at all right now. This might have been the best team win of the season. Yes Markus led in points but it was a quiet 17 (somehow) and there were many contributors across the board in all categories. Only thing to clean up is some of the careless TOs but they didn't cost us today. Team is really coming together.
I've been hard on Wojo in the past and it's really hard for me to not remain perpetually skeptical about his actually coaching ability, but today he did two things that I don't recall seeing before, and that was calling out Koby and also talking to Markus after his forced brick from the corner. It's like I felt like he's finally in-game coaching. So that was good to see.
This team is a Kamar Baldwin not playing Superman and a miss contested 3 in regulation from being 9 - 2 in the BE. Can't change the past but we've played pretty darn good conference ball outside of at Creighton and at SH. As others have said, at Nova is house money. Win that game and it actually seems like 2nd place would be ours to lose. I'm really enjoying this team right now and get the sense that they may just finally have the toughness to do something in the tournament.
Quote from: jsglow on February 09, 2020, 05:36:56 PM
Disagree brew. Butler's press was effective. They forced passes to Jayce and immediately fouled. He made 'em pay so great for him. Also Jordan emptied the bench with more than 2 minutes to go. Wojo looked up and then looked down the sidelines toward him. Butler played it all just fine.
Wojo didn't think so. I'm not saying there was any intent to injure, but fouling Markus after a defensive rebound in the backcourt when you're down 19 with 2:42 was kind of crazy. That's not Hack-a-Jayce.
Then with under a minute, Marquette had one of those "up 16, let's dribble out the possession" vibes. Wojo motions for them to keep going, Koby drains a three to push it back to 19.
https://twitter.com/brewcity1977/status/1226849811724460032?s=21
I get it if the consensus is that what Jordan did was fine, but I can't remember a coach being as unwilling as he is to accept a loss. I considered last year a bit of a fluke, but the more I see it, the less it feels like chance.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill brew. Whatever.
Quote from: jsglow on February 10, 2020, 07:14:53 AM
You're making a mountain out of a molehill brew. Whatever.
Not a mountain. Just saying I've seen this before and don't appreciate it. And Wojo has seen this before and also doesn't appreciate it.
The dribble out the clock in victories is a relatively new thing aver the last 20 years or so. Before that when one team had the game won the end of the bench guys would be in the game playing full-throttle to try and impress the coach. I prefer that. I really hate it when you just dribble around and let the shot clock expire. Just play, and if you don't want your stars to get hurt, take them out and let the end of the bench get some run.
Quote from: CTWarrior on February 10, 2020, 07:23:15 AM
The dribble out the clock in victories is a relatively new thing aver the last 20 years or so. Before that when one team had the game won the end of the bench guys would be in the game playing full-throttle to try and impress the coach. I prefer that. I really hate it when you just dribble around and let the shot clock expire. Just play, and if you don't want your stars to get hurt, take them out and let the end of the bench get some run.
I don't think it was an accident that Koby was still in at that point. Wojo had taken all the other guys with star performances on the day out. Koby was in there to twist the dagger. It felt conspicuous at the time when he didn't come out when Markus, Bailey, and Anim did in pretty short order.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 10, 2020, 07:25:29 AM
I don't think it was an accident that Koby was still in at that point. Wojo had taken all the other guys with star performances on the day out. Koby was in there to twist the dagger. It felt conspicuous at the time when he didn't come out when Markus, Bailey, and Anim did in pretty short order.
I think you're right. When the subs came Koby actually went to the bench thinking he was subbed out. To his surprise he had to run back on the court.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 10, 2020, 07:25:29 AM
I don't think it was an accident that Koby was still in at that point. Wojo had taken all the other guys with star performances on the day out. Koby was in there to twist the dagger. It felt conspicuous at the time when he didn't come out when Markus, Bailey, and Anim did in pretty short order.
I figured we needed a ball handler with them still pressing. Also, even with walk-ins, we typically need a rotation player in.
I did find it odd they started fouling so early with so many guys in foul trouble.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 10, 2020, 07:50:52 AM
I figured we needed a ball handler with them still pressing. Also, even with walk-ins, we typically need a rotation player in.
I did find it odd they started fouling so early with so many guys in foul trouble.
But Sy was in and brought it up. And Jordan did put in his reserves with about 2:00 left, so he did finally wave the white flag. Really think Koby was there because Wojo didn't accept the surrender.
2:00 isn't an unreasonable time to put in your reserves.
Jordan pulled his starters with over 2:00 left. It seems like he accepted his defeat earlier than just about any other coach I've seen this year.
They started hacking Jayce down 14 with over 4 minutes left. Pretty smart move. Send a 50% foul shooter to the line, hope he misses both and you get an empty possession with 0 time going off the clock. Once Jayce made them pay on 3 straight possessions, he waved the white flag. I doubt he was screaming for Kamar to foul Markus after a defensive rebound in the back court. It was probably just that Butler had been fouling the 3 previous possessions so Kamar fouled as quickly as he could.
I don't think Lavar had dirty intents on his mind, I think he knew his only hope was empty possessions with no time going off the clock. I don't think Wojo was trying to twist the knife on a blowout win, I think he didn't want to take a shot clock turnover.
It's really not a big deal. Or a deal at all.
Possibly the most complete game Marquette has played in years.
Howard looked great not forcing to much, hopefully bailey can keep this up.
Quote from: TheyWereCones on February 10, 2020, 12:35:45 AM
Yeah really nothing to complain about at all right now. This might have been the best team win of the season. Yes Markus led in points but it was a quiet 17 (somehow) and there were many contributors across the board in all categories. Only thing to clean up is some of the careless TOs but they didn't cost us today. Team is really coming together.
I've been hard on Wojo in the past and it's really hard for me to not remain perpetually skeptical about his actually coaching ability, but today he did two things that I don't recall seeing before, and that was calling out Koby and also talking to Markus after his forced brick from the corner. It's like I felt like he's finally in-game coaching. So that was good to see.
I'm with you on all the above. The balance of the game was great, defense was especially good, and the effort/intensity was as high as we've seen all year. I'm sure the week off was a nice break for the guys, and they clearly took advantage of the time off to rest and prepare for a tough game. Wojo gets a ton of credit for this one too. He did a great job from planning to execution. Very well done.
Statement victory yesterday against a very strong Butler team. The team appears to really be coming together at the right time.
Hopefully the Debbie Downers can relax a bit and enjoy what a memorable team we have this year.
Quote from: manesworld on February 10, 2020, 08:31:54 AM
Jordan pulled his starters with over 2:00 left. It seems like he accepted his defeat earlier than just about any other coach I've seen this year.
They started hacking Jayce down 14 with over 4 minutes left. Pretty smart move. Send a 50% foul shooter to the line, hope he misses both and you get an empty possession with 0 time going off the clock. Once Jayce made them pay on 3 straight possessions, he waved the white flag. I doubt he was screaming for Kamar to foul Markus after a defensive rebound in the back court. It was probably just that Butler had been fouling the 3 previous possessions so Kamar fouled as quickly as he could.
I don't think Lavar had dirty intents on his mind, I think he knew his only hope was empty possessions with no time going off the clock. I don't think Wojo was trying to twist the knife on a blowout win, I think he didn't want to take a shot clock turnover.
It's really not a big deal. Or a deal at all.
I tend to agree with this.
And if Koby had gotten hurt while playing with the scrubs strictly because Wojo wanted revenge, it would have been an unforgivable coaching sin for me. Glad it didn't happen.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on February 10, 2020, 09:41:31 AM
Statement victory yesterday against a very strong Butler team. The team appears to really be coming together at the right time.
Hopefully the Debbie Downers can relax a bit and enjoy what a memorable team we have this year.
But what if we lose the next game???!!!
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 10, 2020, 09:48:34 AM
But what if we lose the next game???!!!
Then the scoop sky will fall.
Quote from: manesworld on February 10, 2020, 08:31:54 AM
Jordan pulled his starters with over 2:00 left. It seems like he accepted his defeat earlier than just about any other coach I've seen this year.
They started hacking Jayce down 14 with over 4 minutes left. Pretty smart move. Send a 50% foul shooter to the line, hope he misses both and you get an empty possession with 0 time going off the clock. Once Jayce made them pay on 3 straight possessions, he waved the white flag. I doubt he was screaming for Kamar to foul Markus after a defensive rebound in the back court. It was probably just that Butler had been fouling the 3 previous possessions so Kamar fouled as quickly as he could.
I don't think Lavar had dirty intents on his mind, I think he knew his only hope was empty possessions with no time going off the clock. I don't think Wojo was trying to twist the knife on a blowout win, I think he didn't want to take a shot clock turnover.
It's really not a big deal. Or a deal at all.
Yes. This is the correct take on this.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 10, 2020, 08:29:12 AM
2:00 isn't an unreasonable time to put in your reserves.
It's not, I was fine with that. It was the 2:30 before that, particularly the foul at 2:42, that was uncalled for.
Quote from: Marcus92 on February 09, 2020, 10:50:12 PM
Marquette had 16 assists as a team -- including 6 from Koby, 3 each from Markus and Sacar and 2 from Symir. That's the highest total in Big East play so far this season. It's great to see such good ball movement and everyone getting involved. Marquette also had its best defensive game since the Villanova win. Hope we can keep it rolling.
Great to see Symir got 2 in only 4 minutes played. Maybe he gets that 10 assist game this year.
Quote from: Loose Cannon on February 10, 2020, 10:29:31 AM
Great to see Symir got 2 in only 4 minutes played. Maybe he gets that 10 assist game this year.
The inbounds play to BB was amazing. He has great vision.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 10, 2020, 10:30:20 AM
The inbounds play to BB was amazing. He has great vision.
I can't wait to see his freshman to sophomore year improvement.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 10, 2020, 10:30:20 AM
The inbounds play to BB was amazing. He has great vision.
Yeah, I caught that, bang, bang. Can't wait for his offense to kick in.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 10, 2020, 10:19:46 AM
It's not, I was fine with that. It was the 2:30 before that, particularly the foul at 2:42, that was uncalled for.
After seeing Symir try to foul and not actually get the foul call last week, I understand why some of the intentional fouls might look a little more aggressive than you'd expect. The strategy did make some sense, but Jayce made them pay for their gamble. I don't think anything was even remotely dirty yesterday.
Quote from: MU82 on February 10, 2020, 09:46:40 AM
I tend to agree with this.
And if Koby had gotten hurt while playing with the scrubs strictly because Wojo wanted revenge, it would have been an unforgivable coaching sin for me. Glad it didn't happen.
We are in a bit of an unusual situation here. We don't have scholarship guys who don't play, so we don't really have guys like Don Smolinski or Magic Dawson who just about never get in games to put in at the end. So unless we go to the walk-ons we are playing all rotation guys in the last couple minutes. I'd have thrown in everybody when they emptied the bench with about 2 to go, but not knowing how good the walk-ons are, I don't blame the coach if he wants to play them no more than a minute.
Quote from: manesworld on February 10, 2020, 08:31:54 AM
Jordan pulled his starters with over 2:00 left. It seems like he accepted his defeat earlier than just about any other coach I've seen this year.
They started hacking Jayce down 14 with over 4 minutes left. Pretty smart move. Send a 50% foul shooter to the line, hope he misses both and you get an empty possession with 0 time going off the clock. Once Jayce made them pay on 3 straight possessions, he waved the white flag. I doubt he was screaming for Kamar to foul Markus after a defensive rebound in the back court. It was probably just that Butler had been fouling the 3 previous possessions so Kamar fouled as quickly as he could.
I don't think Lavar had dirty intents on his mind, I think he knew his only hope was empty possessions with no time going off the clock. I don't think Wojo was trying to twist the knife on a blowout win, I think he didn't want to take a shot clock turnover.
It's really not a big deal. Or a deal at all.
Word.
I'll also say, if Howard doesn't get injured in a similar situation last year, I wouldn't think anything of yesterday. That, along with Howard's head bouncing off a folding chair in Indy and yesterday is sure starting to feel more like a trend than chance.
Really enjoyed watching the battle down low, especially between Jayce and Butler's Bryce Golden -- a 6-9, 245-pound sophomore who must spend time honing his post-up moves against African bull elephants.
Jayce is about as strong as they come, has good footwork on defense, and was usually able to deny Golden good position. Golden still managed to back him down -- better than any other player I can remember against Jayce this season. Irresistible force, meet immovable object.
But Golden finished just 3-10 on two-point attempts, almost all of them high-percentage looks right at the rim (where he's converted at a 67.3% rate this season). Jayce and Theo did a good job contesting shots without fouling -- yes, Jayce had 4 fouls, but the rotation worked exactly the way it's supposed to -- and did so mostly without getting any help from a double-team.
Bryce Nze saw more success, scoring 14 points on 6-8 shooting. Overall, though, holding Golden and Nze to 9 for 18 (50%) on their two-point FG attempts is a better defensive performance than you might think. That duo combined to go 14-19 (73.7%) on 2FGA against Villanova on Wednesday. And they shot 9-11 (81.8%) the game before against Providence.
Meanwhile, Theo and Jayce combined for 39 minutes, 13 points (on 4-5 shooting), 14 rebounds and 3 blocks. Can we name two players splitting time at the same position as the Studs of the Game?
Quote from: Marcus92 on February 11, 2020, 10:09:16 AM
Really enjoyed watching the battle down low, especially between Jayce and Butler's Bryce Golden -- a 6-9, 245-pound sophomore who must spend time honing his post-up moves against African bull elephants.
Jayce is about as strong as they come, has good footwork on defense, and was usually able to deny Golden good position. Golden still managed to back him down -- better than any other player I can remember against Jayce this season. Irresistible force, meet immovable object.
But Golden finished just 3-10 on two-point attempts, almost all of them high-percentage looks right at the rim (where he's converted at a 67.3% rate this season). Jayce and Theo did a good job contesting shots without fouling -- yes, Jayce had 4 fouls, but the rotation worked exactly the way it's supposed to -- and did so mostly without getting any help from a double-team.
If the results can come like that every game, MU will finish strong. Losing Morrow has helped, to bad Theo hurt his wrist because it seems he can not hold onto the
ball as strong as he should. Jayce will be seeing more time in future, just does not have great lateral quickness but a nice addition this year, hope they can find another backup next year. Good points.
Bryce Nze saw more success, scoring 14 points on 6-8 shooting. Overall, though, holding Golden and Nze to 9 for 18 (50%) on their two-point FG attempts is a better defensive performance than you might think. That duo combined to go 14-19 (73.7%) on 2FGA against Villanova on Wednesday. And they shot 9-11 (81.8%) the game before against Providence.
Meanwhile, Theo and Jayce combined for 39 minutes, 13 points (on 4-5 shooting), 14 rebounds and 3 blocks. Can we name two players splitting time at the same position as the Studs of the Game?
Quote from: Marcus92 on February 11, 2020, 10:09:16 AM
Bryce Nze saw more success, scoring 14 points on 6-8 shooting.
I was impressed with Nze and his post moves. Kinda what I had hoped for for Ed. Good transfer pick up for Butler.
Quote from: TSmith34 on February 11, 2020, 11:06:30 AM
I was impressed with Nze and his post moves. Kinda what I had hoped for for Ed. Good transfer pick up for Butler.
Nze and Golden traveled a lot and were in the lane over 3 seconds.
Bailey spent a lot of time guarding Nze when he was at the 4. It did not go well for Bailey. Nze was stymied by our bigs when he played the 5.
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on February 11, 2020, 11:40:40 AM
Bailey spent a lot of time guarding Nze when he was at the 4. It did not go well for Bailey. Nze was stymied by our bigs when he played the 5.
Weight and See.