Boo this

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I don't think there is anything dirty about intentionally fouling, especially a bad FT shooter. It's actually pretty smart.

Now, I was with my NMD group and was fairly far from the TV, so answer me this, brewski: Were the fouls overly aggressive? Was there intent to injure?

No intent to injure. One seemed obviously intentional but nothing dirty.

[Cheeks]

I'm curious for others take on this: I think Lavall Jordan is a dirty coach.

After the under-4 timeout, trailing by 14, they tried to intentionally foul Sacar, then intentionally fouled Jayce. I get it, their only theoretical way back in was for us to have empty trips and them to keep scoring, but this is a trend. The game was effectively over. They fouled Jayce three times spanning that timeout. They even fouled Markus in the backcourt down 19 with 2:42 to play.

The last time I saw a team so blatantly fouling in a game that was obviously lost was Butler last year when Howard got injured in this same game.

Is this a coincidence? Has anyone else paid close enough attention to Butler to see if they do this in other blowout losses? Fouling Jayce, even when the game is pretty much over, is one thing. Fouling Howard, who leads the country in free throws made? WTF, Lavall?

Not dirty

[mu_hilltopper]

Not dirty, co-sign.

Not to mention, like with 2 and change to go, he put in his scrubs .. which let MU do the same.  He surrendered quite early.

[MUDPT]

I'm curious for others take on this: I think Lavall Jordan is a dirty coach.

After the under-4 timeout, trailing by 14, they tried to intentionally foul Sacar, then intentionally fouled Jayce. I get it, their only theoretical way back in was for us to have empty trips and them to keep scoring, but this is a trend. The game was effectively over. They fouled Jayce three times spanning that timeout. They even fouled Markus in the backcourt down 19 with 2:42 to play.

The last time I saw a team so blatantly fouling in a game that was obviously lost was Butler last year when Howard got injured in this same game.

Is this a coincidence? Has anyone else paid close enough attention to Butler to see if they do this in other blowout losses? Fouling Jayce, even when the game is pretty much over, is one thing. Fouling Howard, who leads the country in free throws made? WTF, Lavall?

I went back and looked at the play by play and the foul on Markus was when we were up 8 with 47 seconds left, not totally egregious. If I remember right McDermott was out of control and should have been assessed an intentional.

I do laugh at Jordan getting techs in back to back MU games I assume for complaining on Markus calls, who you injured last year intentionally fouling.

[MU82]

1.   Had a very pleasant NMD experience.   About 25 of us.   
2.   If anybody complains about anything this game, they are a complete and utter moron and/or loser.
3.   Hack a Jayce and made them pay.   
4.   A week of rest and refocus led to fresh legs and inspired play.
5.   Nobody can accuse Markus of forcing it today. 
6.   OK, maybe Sacar forced some stuff.   More importantly, some good shots didn't go.   
7.  Jayce> Theo today
8.   Revenge is sweet.   Next.

1. Similar. Again, I "got volunteered" to run the Charlotte session. Glad I did. We had fun. Lots of cheering and high-fiving throughout.

2. Yep. We've won 6 of 7, all great wins. Even 18-22 year olds should be smart enough to not boo the effort that Wojo is getting out of this team. If they're not, let 'em go to Madison or some other crap school.

3. Loved seeing Jayce swish those FTs. He was very strong today.

4. No doubt, though we looked a little rusty early offensively. It's always the trade-off.

5. Markus forced 3-4 shots and a couple of drives. That goes with having an elite scorer. Happens to others around the country, and even in the NBA. Still frustrating when it does, but you gotta take a little bad to go with the good. Glad to see Wojo coach him up.

6. Rough offensive game for Sacar. He was still a plus-16, still a contributor.

7. As always, Wojo had a very nice feel for how to manage the 5. Jayce had one of his best games for us. I'd take him over Morrow 100 times out of 100.

8. Yessir. Look forward to beating them in the BET again!

More ...

Bailey was very active. Best Warrior on the court today.

McEwen gets a little wild - sometimes I think he's trying to dribble the ball through the floor. But he hit two 3s that said, "Thanks for playing, Butler ... accept your parting gifts on the way out!"

Had Butler done anything after the Jordan T, folks would have been talking about how he motivated them to greatness. But we outscored them 877-3 after that, so ... I wonder how often the "motivational T" actually works. I'm thinking not very often.

Exteremely strong game for Wojo. Baldwin earned almost everything he got, and we kept everybody else in check. Generally good ball movement on offense. A couple nice out-of-bounds plays. Felt we had the game in control from the midway point of the first half.

That's 6 out of 7, folks. Climb aboard the bandwagon!

[AlienWarrior]

Just like freshman year at Angelo's.

I had my 1st grinder at Angelos. Heros back east. That and a small pizza. Boy, I could eat back then.

[CAGASS24]

Booyah

[CAGASS24]

Announcers gave tons of love to MUs gameplanning ——- fwiw

[muhoops1]

Bailey was a stud today.  The guy I thought they signed a few years ago.  He's getting a feel for the game again and his shot was falling.  Almost had a double double.  LaVall works the officials and is borderline a lot of the time in my opinion.  Could have picked up a second T,

[muguru]

Great game today. My buddy asked me on the way in, if they win today...I said "yeah, they are going to win comfortably, that bye week will do them wonders". When Bailey is playing confidently and making shots, this is a completely different(and very dangerous) MU team.

Not a great time to be playing Nova..they have lost 2 of their last three at home and are n a 3 game losing streak. Yikes. Gonna be tough. But let's see if they can rise to the occasion.

[connie]

Loving the D.  Have to believe that this was the type of defense Wojo has been desperately seeking for years.

[pbiflyer]

No intent to injure. One seemed obviously intentional but nothing dirty.

For those of you too young, there is even a term for it. Hack a Shaq. Coaches did it all the time to Shaq at the end of games. NBA eventually put rules in preventing it.
Kudos to Jayce for making them pay for it.

[BrewCity83]

I'd MUCH RATHER play a team that's on a 3 game skid, maybe battling doubts and shaken confidence, than one that's won 6 of 7, playing with confidence and clicking.

[tower912]

Loving the D.  Have to believe that this was the type of defense Wojo has been desperately seeking for years.

I have a feeling that, barring exceptional circumstances, we will not see small guards recruited going forward.

[Goose]

I do not remember every game like some do, but this was as complete of a performance I can remember in quite some time. Not a negative word can be uttered after that win. Job very well done.

[MU82]

I have a feeling that, barring exceptional circumstances, we will not see small guards recruited going forward.

I hope he won't pass on a potentially elite scorer just because that player might be small.

Markus also is an improved defender. Drew a big charge today, and seems to do that pretty often.

It was an unwinnable situation having Markus and Rowsey on the court at the same time. But if the rest of the team is made up of long-armed switchables, I don't see why any coach (not just Wojo) would pass on a potential 20+ ppg scorer.

[LloydsLegs]

Couple of quick comments - no excuse in my book, but butts were not in the seats at 11am due to (as one poster noted) weather and the 11am start time.

Boos we're not loud, and (as another poster implied) could be confused with wooojjjjj

Spent halftime yelling at my nephew about his idiotic take on Woj.  (He's not on scoop, but could be).

And damn did Jayce and Brendan look good. 

[MU82]

Spent halftime yelling at my nephew about his idiotic take on Woj.  (He's not on scoop, but could be).

Cracked me up.

[BrewCity83]

Ryan Conway, MU's latest offer and recruit in today's house, is only 6' and 160#.

https://twitter.com/CoachLochte/status/1226267303177834511/photo/1

[tower912]

I hope he won't pass on a potentially elite scorer just because that player might be small.

Markus also is an improved defender. Drew a big charge today, and seems to do that pretty often.

It was an unwinnable situation having Markus and Rowsey on the court at the same time. But if the rest of the team is made up of long-armed switchables, I don't see why any coach (not just Wojo) would pass on a potential 20+ ppg scorer.

Markus is clearly 'exceptional circumstances'.   Big East is a big guard league.   If the guard isn't 6'3, he better have exceptional skills.

[cheebs09]

Couple of quick comments - no excuse in my book, but butts were not in the seats at 11am due to (as one poster noted) weather and the 11am start time.

Boos we're not loud, and (as another poster implied) could be confused with wooojjjjj

Spent halftime yelling at my nephew about his idiotic take on Woj.  (He's not on scoop, but could be).

And damn did Jayce and Brendan look good.

I think a lot of it has to do with people underestimating how long it takes to get into Fiserv. I think it takes much longer than the BC.

Great game from Brendan. One of Wojo's best coaching performances I feel. Seems like they are really hitting their stride.

[MU82]

Markus is clearly 'exceptional circumstances'.   Big East is a big guard league.   If the guard isn't 6'3, he better have exceptional skills.

On this we agree, my friend.

All things equal, 6-3 is better than 5-11. If 5-11 player is a little better on O, 6-3 is still better. If 5-11 can be Markus Howard and 6-3 is merely good, I'm happy to take 5-11.

[DarkWarrior]

Awesome defense, great coaching. 40 minutes of solid game. Just enough errors to coach!

[Jables1604]

Paging Mike Deane's sunglasses...Come in Mike Deane's Sunglasses...

[brewcity77]

My issue is fouling in games that are unquestionably over. Why direct your team to commit wholly unnecessary fouls? Fouling the guy who's made more free throws than anyone else in the country when you're down NINETEEN with 2:42 to play? There's no winnable scenario there. It's just pointless aggressive play with no positive end goal.

Maybe it's two isolated scenarios, but I can't remember a team consistently fouling well after the game was no longer in doubt. I'm not saying the players are dirty, I don't think they are, but continuing to direct that kind of contact can lead to injury, intended or not.