You are just as embarrassing as this performance
Changes need to be made
You missed the "keep drinking" thread by 2 lines
Bye
Beating a tournament team at home in a nail biter? What needs defending?
Quote from: tower912 on January 11, 2017, 08:32:28 PM
Beating a tournament team at home in a nail biter? What needs defending?
Blowing a 7 pt lead with 30 seconds left
Quote from: tower912 on January 11, 2017, 08:32:28 PM
Beating a tournament team at home in a nail biter? What needs defending?
Is Seton Hall really an NCAA tourney team?
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 08:31:47 PM
So you are gonna try and defend it?
Defend what? Are missed FTs by great FT shooters and a banked in 3 on the coaching? Not to mention
Quote from: mayfairskatingrink on January 11, 2017, 08:33:16 PM
Is Seton Hall really an NCAA tourney team?
Also a fair point.
Actually I think we are considerably better then them outside of
Slanted refs, rebounding edge and a penchant for New Mexico style choking
Quote from: mayfairskatingrink on January 11, 2017, 08:33:16 PM
Is Seton Hall really an NCAA tourney team?
Yes and the type of one that comes in as a 10 seed and then makes the sweet 16. They are dangerous.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 08:33:01 PM
Blowing a 7 pt lead with 30 seconds left
Who are you accusing? Wojo? A bank three, a highly contested one just a bit earlier and two missed free throws from a 80%+ foul shooter and a travel on the game tying shot. Perfect storm.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 11, 2017, 08:33:40 PM
Defend what? Are missed FTs by great FT shooters and a banked in 3 on the coaching? Not to mention
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 11, 2017, 08:35:11 PM
Who are you accusing? Wojo? A bank three, a highly contested one just a bit earlier and two missed free throws from a 80%+ foul shooter and a travel on the game tying shot. Perfect storm.
See my most recent post.
Youcall it a perfect storm I call it failing in 5 different situations where doing 1/5 wins the game
That was a great gutty win after two very difficult losses. Absolutely needed to win a game like that. Perhaps more valuable than winning by a 10 point margin because like the previous games, they fought until the end and this time were rewarded for it.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 08:35:16 PM
Refs did suck.
I'd say blown free throws and 5 offensive rebounds in 1 possession is a good start.
Or was Reinhardts shot a good shot in your opinion?
I'm not sure how far you're going back but I posted that KR taking that 3 instead of pulling it back out was terrible.
The blown FTs are surprising. The rebounding issue is not.
That was a huge win. I thought we were in deep trouble by having to play OT. Big missed free throws by Hanni but we really gutted this one out. Heldt was big and Marcus ha the intensity.
The most frustrating this about this season is how close we seem to being pretty good. But ultimately, it is on the players to rebound and defend -- Wojo can only scream box out so many times.
Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 11, 2017, 08:36:32 PM
That was a great gutty win after two very difficult losses. Absolutely needed to win a game like that. Perhaps more valuable than winning by a 10 point margin because like the previous games, they fought until the end and this time were rewarded for it.
that is how I see it as well. With Sam and Luke out , they hung tough
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 11, 2017, 08:38:38 PM
I'm not sure how far you're going back but I posted that KR taking that 3 instead of pulling it back out was terrible.
The blown FTs are surprising. The rebounding issue is not.
Not mad about rebounding overall
It's failing to grab 1 of 5.
Or even the OT ones(thank GOD we won)
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 08:35:16 PM
Refs did suck.
I'd say blown free throws and 5 offensive rebounds in 1 possession is a good start.
Or was Reinhardts shot a good shot in your opinion?
in my opinion, his shots from the line were very good-all that matters. he wanted to be a hero, well he sorta-kinda became one with those free throws-not the way i would have written it up. if i'm wojo however, he's doing some killers tomorrow for the errant 3
Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on January 11, 2017, 08:40:26 PM
The most frustrating this about this season is how close we seem to being pretty good. But ultimately, it is on the players to rebound and defend -- Wojo can only scream box out so many times.
Should be 13-3.
We are actually overall a very solid team
That's why this is sad
Wait. So we're supposed to need to defend a win? Why?
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 08:12:07 PM
You are just as embarrassing as this performance
Changes need to be made
You ran to post this. Living that joylessly must be difficult.
Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on January 11, 2017, 08:46:50 PM
You ran to post this. Living that joylessly must be difficult.
I ran where?
Yes absolutely killed on the boards.
Yes a dumb play by a senior grad
Yes, missed free throws by KR, his only second of year, but hit went it counted in OT
Yes, JJJ benched for 10 minutes for being stupid.
But, when the team loses Fischer and Hauser, plays their sub center who has greatest five minutes of his life, and prevents a complete nuclear meltdown of the team and this board, you take it.
Just remember the end of the game and Marcus Howard hugging Wojo and the players high fiving Heldt, thats what the game is all about.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 11, 2017, 08:44:49 PM
Wait. So we're supposed to need to defend a win? Why?
I don't post in hindsight.
If it's bad, I call it as it is.
If it's good(Heldt and Howard), I call it as it is.
It wa an embarrassing collapse. It was a surprising great recovery.
Quote from: nyg on January 11, 2017, 08:48:29 PM
Yes absolutely killed on the boards.
Yes a dumb play by a senior grad
Yes, missed free throws by KR, his only second of year, but hit went it counted in OT
Yes, JJJ benched for 10 minutes for being stupid.
But, when the team loses Fischer and Hauser, plays their sub center who has greatest five minutes of his life, and prevents a complete nuclear meltdown of the team and this board, you take it.
Just remember the end of the game and Marcus Howard hugging Wojo and the players high fiving Heldt, thats what the game is all about.
Yes, all great moments
Howard and Heldt were phenomenal.
No need to defend a win against a very physical team and officials that are delusional.
"It wa an embarrassing collapse. It was a surprising great recovery."
being a little hard on the beaver, ain't ya?
So now its not just the losses that are Wojo's fault.
The close wins are despite of him.
People need to get a grip.
Quote from: nyg on January 11, 2017, 08:48:29 PM
Yes absolutely killed on the boards.
Yes a dumb play by a senior grad
Yes, missed free throws by KR, his only second of year, but hit went it counted in OT
Yes, JJJ benched for 10 minutes for being stupid.
But, when the team loses Fischer and Hauser, plays their sub center who has greatest five minutes of his life, and prevents a complete nuclear meltdown of the team and this board, you take it.
Just remember the end of the game and Marcus Howard hugging Wojo and the players high fiving Heldt, thats what the game is all about.
+1
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on January 11, 2017, 08:53:12 PM
So now its not just the losses that are Wojo's fault.
The close wins are despite of him.
People need to get a grip.
I didn't even say Wojos name
You drunk?
There is no question the blown leads and the late game collapses are hard to stomach and witness, even the wins at times are very ugly. However, what cannot be forgotten is how extremely difficult it is to win a basketball games against high major teams.
It is even more difficult when you have a large number of very young players on the court. We start two freshman and a sophomore. The only truly good teams that start two freshman and a sophomore have good senior leadership. We do not have that whatsoever. Jjj is a nightmare n was on the bench at winning time and fischer is an enigma at best. So while it can be frustrating our struggles should really come as no surprise. Hopefully we can continue to win ugly.
Im pretty certain when ghis group of Feshman n sophomores becomes those juniors and seniors we will not have the same issues.
So, PF, when SH tied it and sent it to OT, you of all people were EXPECTING a win? Without Fisher and Hauser? No doubt you were (sarcasm intended). Then when we do win, you call it embarrassing? And again call for a change (assuming you mean the head coach)? Hell yes, I'm defending it!
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 11, 2017, 08:57:24 PM
There is no question the blown leads and the late game collapses are hard to stomach and witness, even the wins at times are very ugly. However, what cannot be forgotten is how extremely difficult it is to win a basketball games against high major teams.
It is even more difficult when you have a large number of very young players on the court. We start two freshman and a sophomore. The only truly good teams that start two freshman and a sophomore have good senior leadership. We do not have that whatsoever. Jjj is a nightmare n was on the bench at winning time and fischer is an enigma at best. So while it can be frustrating our struggles should really come as no surprise. Hopefully we can continue to win ugly.
Im pretty certain when ghis group of Feshman n sophomores becomes those juniors and seniors we will not have the same issues.
You don't like Fischer and JJJ? Stunning news.
Quote from: jdbied on January 11, 2017, 08:59:14 PM
So, PF, when SH tied it and sent it to OT, you of all people were EXPECTING a win? Without Fisher and Hauser? No doubt you were (sarcasm intended). Then when we do win, you call it embarrassing? And again call for a change (assuming you mean the head coach)? Hell yes, I'm defending it!
Once again, I don't post in hindsight
This was before the game was over.
Try and keep up.
If it's bad I say it. If it's good I say it
I prefer to look at it this way. In the last 11 days, two fairly evenly matched teams met. Last time MU found a way to lose the game. This time, they found a way to win.
Cheers!
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 09:01:18 PM
By saying changes need to be made?
Sound logic.
Much more logical than ranting and raving after a close, hard faught win.
And saying "changes need to be made!!!!" without saying what those changes are is pretty much useless.
If you try and twist to deny this....
Marquette Won! Could they have improved some things? Yes. Do we have to worry about that? Not really, Wojo does. Should we celebrate a win? Abso-friggin-lutely!
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on January 11, 2017, 09:02:44 PM
Much more logical than ranting and raving after a close, hard faught win.
And saying "changes need to be made!!!!" without saying what those changes are is pretty much useless.
3rd times the charm..
I ranted "before the win". I don't let hindsight Cloud my judgement.
Best part is, the guy you accuse me of wanting gone(go back to game thread I didn't mention wojo once there either) is also not going to forget.
He will remind them many times what happened. The players also won't forget.
You a guy who enjoys messing up over and over?
https://media.tenor.co/images/28f1bacd02be9528f63d5cab6d5de149/raw
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 09:06:31 PM
3rd times the charm..
I ranted "before the win". I don't let hindsight Cloud my judgement.
Best part is, the guy you accuse me of wanting gone(go back to game thread I didn't mention wojo once there either) is also not going to forget.
He will remind them many times what happened. The players also won't forget.
You a guy who enjoys messing up over and over?
I don't care when you posted it - you doubled down after the game was over. Just saying "changes need to be made" is useless.
What changes do you want to see made? How would you go about making those changes?
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on January 11, 2017, 09:09:31 PM
I don't care when you posted it - you doubled down after the game was over. Just saying "changes need to be made" is useless.
What changes do you want to see made? How would you go about making those changes?
What did I double down on?
Since the game has been completed I've either explained myself or heaped praise.
You are really, really bad at reading.
That is change I'd make right there. Sadly, you're gonna have to do handle that on your own.
As for the team? I'd sit guys who take horrible shots when wasting the clock. If a guy can't make free throws put another one out there that can.
I would also make a change in the 5 that are playing big moments late. If you ain't making plays, get off the court.
I would also teach these guys to know when to give the ball up. Duane should not look to be fouled when Markus is wide open next to him.
Quote from: DUNKS45 on January 11, 2017, 08:39:28 PM
That was a huge win. I thought we were in deep trouble by having to play OT. Big missed free throws by Hanni but we really gutted this one out. Heldt was big and Marcus ha the intensity.
Season-changer. No big men for final six minutes but Heldt was huge and Markus may the best freshman in MU history.
Quote from: ecompt on January 11, 2017, 09:14:56 PM
Season-changer. No big men for final six minutes but Heldt was huge and Markus may the best freshman in MU history.
Also, facts.
Is PFsHeroes32 Chico?
Has he written a choking-dogs-peed-down-the-leg manifesto yet? No, he is not.
Quote from: NCMUFan on January 11, 2017, 09:20:44 PM
Is PFsHeroes32 Chico?
Because I don't enjoy blowing leads I can't possible be a unique individual?
Suggestion, view my profile before making stupid assumptions
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 09:14:47 PM
What did I double down on?
Since the game has been completed I've either explained myself or heaped praise.
You are really, really bad at reading.
That is change I'd make right there. Sadly, you're gonna have to do handle that on your own.
You are terrible at insults. This wasn't even amusing much less insulting. Try harder.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 09:14:47 PM
As for the team? I'd sit guys who take horrible shots when wasting the clock. If a guy can't make free throws put another one out there that can.
I would also make a change in the 5 that are playing big moments late. If you ain't making plays, get off the court.
I would also teach these guys to know when to give the ball up. Duane should not look to be fouled when Markus is wide open next to him.
This is a team of nine players. Two of them were fouled out. Two of them (JJJ and Rowsey) were sitting because they made multiple bone-headed plays.
And who do you want to take out cause they didn't make free throws? Haanif? He's an 83% FT shooter.
And you are bitching at Duane who went 2/2 on the line?
I will grant you that Katin's shot in regulation was terrible. But you take him out and you don't have him perfect from the line in OT.
They showed mental toughness tonight when they needed to. Progress.
Quote from: NCMUFan on January 11, 2017, 09:20:44 PM
Is PFsHeroes32 Chico?
You really think Chicos could go that many posts without name dropping?
Or self-aggrandizing?
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on January 11, 2017, 09:23:32 PM
You are terrible at insults. This wasn't even amusing much less insulting. Try harder.
This is a team of nine players. Two of them were fouled out. Two of them (JJJ and Rowsey) were sitting because they made multiple bone-headed plays.
And who do you want to take out cause they didn't make free throws? Haanif? He's an 83% FT shooter.
And you are bitching at Duane who went 2/2 on the line?
I will grant you that Katin's shot in regulation was terrible. But you take him out and you don't have him perfect from the line in OT.
They showed mental toughness tonight when they needed to. Progress.
Where did I try to be funny? Clearly you were offended, you add to try and deflect it.
Great try.
Once again(it's getting sad at this point) I don't speak in hindsight. The guy shooting 66% at the line over the last 1.5 years is not a better option then the 96%.
If David Ortiz steals a base it doesn't make it a smart play just because it happened to work.
You do realize that right? By your logic Katin shot would have been smart if he happened to make it.
Thank god he didn't, I'd feel bad having to read you say that.
Or inserting a political dig?
;D ;D
Or defending Crean?
Quote from: TSmith34 on January 11, 2017, 09:29:57 PM
Or defending Crean?
That right there is the winner. Hate that guy.
Also for the record I'm a firm believer in not firing a coach until at least 1 full recruiting rotation.
In pros you gotta give him at least 3.
It's sad seeing the same bad teams firing coach after coach and not realize it's a major reason why they are bad
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 08:33:01 PM
Blowing a 7 pt lead with 30 seconds left
We didn't blow the lead. We won the game. Not pretty. Far from flawless. Marquette made some poor decisions at times down the stretch, and was as outmatched on the defensive boards as I can remember. But they got the win. Maybe that doesn't deserve any credit from your point of view — but that's what counts in the standings.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 09:27:34 PM
Where did I try to be funny? Clearly you were offended, you add to try and deflect it.
Great try.
Once again(it's getting sad at this point) I don't speak in hindsight. The guy shooting 66% at the line over the last 1.5 years is not a better option then the 96%.
If David Ortiz steals a base it doesn't make it a smart play just because it happened to work.
You do realize that right? By your logic Katin shot would have been smart if he happened to make it.
Thank god he didn't, I'd feel bad having to read you say that.
Dude, there really is nothing you can say to offend me. I really don't care all that much what you think of me.
But you can keep making illogical points. The guys you wanted to bench are the guys who were keys to the game and in OT. Just ranting and ravings without any logic.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on January 11, 2017, 09:33:36 PM
Dude, there really is nothing you can say to offend me. I really don't care all that much what you think of me.
But you can keep making illogical points. The guys you wanted to bench are the guys who were keys to the game and in OT. Just ranting and ravings without any logic.
It obviously is offending you though. Considering you keep taking it as me trying to offend you. You can't read, I'm simply trying to help.
Talk about no logic. You claim something is a good move because it worked 1 time. That's the worst logic possible.
Our boyz show some real cajones gutting out a tough win against a quality opponent despite facing significant adversity throughout the game ... and we're supposed to be embarrassed by something?
Think even about the guys who screwed up ... Katin takes that boneheaded 3 but he swishes all his FTs in OT and comes up with a huge hustle rebound ... JJJ was pretty bad most of the game but makes two sensational shots in OT ... etc.
To anybody who knows anything about sports, being able to bounce back despite one's own foibles is a sign of mental toughness and intestinal fortitude.
And yet somebody is supposed to be embarrassed by something?
I'm thrilled with the victory, and proud to be a Warrior.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 09:35:59 PM
It obviously is offending you though. Considering you keep taking it as me trying to offend you. You can't read, I'm simply trying to help.
Talk about no logic. You claim something is a good move because it worked 1 time. That's the worst logic possible.
And you wanted to bench anyone who took a bad shot or missed free throws. Which apparently means you wanted Deon Franklin on the floor at the end of the game.
So I judge your proposed changes to be...stupid.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on January 11, 2017, 09:48:28 PM
And you wanted to bench anyone who took a bad shot or missed free throws. Which apparently means you wanted Deon Franklin on the floor at the end of the game.
So I judge your proposed changes to be...stupid.
Wrong again. Markus missed a free throw. Glad he barely came out.
Matt missed one too. Great game.
Carry on
Quote from: MU82 on January 11, 2017, 09:41:29 PM
Our boyz show some real cajones gutting out a tough win against a quality opponent despite facing significant adversity throughout the game ... and we're supposed to be embarrassed by something?
Think even about the guys who screwed up ... Katin takes that boneheaded 3 but he swishes all his FTs in OT and comes up with a huge hustle rebound ... JJJ was pretty bad most of the game but makes two sensational shots in OT ... etc.
To anybody who knows anything about sports, being able to bounce back despite one's own foibles is a sign of mental toughness and intestinal fortitude.
And yet somebody is supposed to be embarrassed by something?
I'm thrilled with the victory, and proud to be a Warrior.
Yea, but those are the easy kinds of toughness
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Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 08:35:16 PM
Or was Reinhardts shot a good shot in your opinion?
I didn't mind it. There was still over two minutes left with a single digit lead. He's a good shooter and had a wide open three. If he made it we'd be praising him for launching the dagger.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 11, 2017, 10:28:10 PM
I didn't mind it. There was still over two minutes left with a single digit lead. He's a good shooter and had a wide open three. If he made it we'd be praising him for launching the dagger.
You cannot be serious. That shot, made or missed, was as bad as the one Buycks took against Louisville a few years back. There was 2:16 left in the game and 26 seconds left on the shot clock. And we're up 8. We don't need a stinking "dagger". We need the clock to move and to make free throws. Seton Hall ended up scoring and cutting the lead to 6 fifteen seconds BEFORE we even needed to launch a shot. Dumb, dumb, dumb, low bball IQ move by a grad transfer senior.
Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on January 11, 2017, 08:40:26 PM
The most frustrating this about this season is how close we seem to being pretty good.
That's pretty much the definition of a bubble team. At times we'll look really good. Other times, not so much. Expect more close games — including a win or two we weren't predicted to get, and a loss or two the same way.
Quote from: MU82 on January 11, 2017, 09:41:29 PM
Our boyz show some real cajones gutting out a tough win against a quality opponent despite facing significant adversity throughout the game ... and we're supposed to be embarrassed by something?
Think even about the guys who screwed up ... Katin takes that boneheaded 3 but he swishes all his FTs in OT and comes up with a huge hustle rebound ... JJJ was pretty bad most of the game but makes two sensational shots in OT ... etc.
To anybody who knows anything about sports, being able to bounce back despite one's own foibles is a sign of mental toughness and intestinal fortitude.
And yet somebody is supposed to be embarrassed by something?
I'm thrilled with the victory, and proud to be a Warrior.
I agree with everything in your post, Mike. Our guys were true Warriors for most of the game and all of the OT. I'm ecstatic we won this game.
But if you're not at least a little concerned about a near epic collapse down the stretch (our second in 10 days) you're not being realistic.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 11, 2017, 10:55:04 PM
I agree with everything in your post, Mike. Our guys were true Warriors for most of the game and all of the OT. I'm ecstatic we won this game.
But if you're not at least a little concerned about a near epic collapse down the stretch (our second in 10 days) you're not being realistic.
I'd have rather held on in regulation, absolutely. I wish Haani had made those FTs; the game would have been over. So I guess "concerned" is an OK word to use.
But the OP was about being embarrassed.
Not in the least. We showed major cajones in OT and we won the game. Embarrassed? Hell, I'm proud as hell of the lads.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 11, 2017, 10:42:11 PM
You cannot be serious. That shot, made or missed, was as bad as the one Buycks took against Louisville a few years back. There was 2:16 left in the game and 26 seconds left on the shot clock. And we're up 8. We don't need a stinking "dagger". We need the clock to move and to make free throws. Seton Hall ended up scoring and cutting the lead to 6 fifteen seconds BEFORE we even needed to launch a shot. Dumb, dumb, dumb, low bball IQ move by a grad transfer senior.
I am serious. I personally am not a fan of running out the clock until under 2 minutes left. Katin had a wide open three. Its unlikely they were going to get a better shot than that. I'd rather take a better shot with an extra 10-25 seconds on the clock (unlikely they were actually going to run out the rest of the clock) than a poor shot with less time. Under two minutes, a different story. Others may have a different opinion. That's fine.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 11, 2017, 10:55:04 PM
But if you're not at least a little concerned about a near epic collapse down the stretch (our second in 10 days) you're not being realistic.
A little concerned? I guess. But it took Carrington hitting 50+ feet worth of contested threes, and unfortunately Haanif missed those two FTs. It's not like they turned it over twice like in Newark.
Quote from: mayfairskatingrink on January 11, 2017, 08:33:16 PM
Is Seton Hall really an NCAA tourney team?
Yep so far. They have been getting top 25 votes. Plus are in in most "brackets"
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 11, 2017, 11:01:00 PM
I am serious. I personally am not a fan of running out the clock until under 2 minutes left. Katin had a wide open three. Its unlikely they were going to get a better shot than that. I'd rather take a better shot with an extra 10-25 seconds on the clock (unlikely they were actually going to run out the rest of the clock) than a poor shot with less time. Under two minutes, a different story. Others may have a different opinion. That's fine.
I don't like stallball either but that's an awful shot.
The one thing we've done a good job at is killkng clock while not full blown stalling. It's usually Marcus driving around and then ball movement for a good late shot
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 11, 2017, 11:01:00 PM
I am serious. I personally am not a fan of running out the clock until under 2 minutes left. Katin had a wide open three. Its unlikely they were going to get a better shot than that. I'd rather take a better shot with an extra 10-25 seconds on the clock (unlikely they were actually going to run out the rest of the clock) than a poor shot with less time. Under two minutes, a different story. Others may have a different opinion. That's fine.
OMG. Good clock management is math. You're not a fan of math? I hate it when teams milk the clock up 3 or 4 with 4 minutes left but up 8 with an opportunity to take it under 1:50 it is wrong to launch a 3 with 26 seconds on the clock. Period. Any coach who tells you different should be fired from his job even if it's coaching 5th grade boys or girls.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 11, 2017, 11:28:18 PM
OMG. Good clock management is math. You're not a fan of math? I hate it when teams milk the clock up 3 or 4 with 4 minutes left but up 8 with an opportunity to take it under 1:50 it is wrong to launch a 3 with 26 seconds on the clock. Period. Any coach who tells you different should be fired from his job even if it's coaching 5th grade boys or girls.
That shot by Chuck Reinhardt was brutal...more than the game turning from scoring to winding it down. He was wide open as a shooter could be but he also had a clear path to the hoop and a sure foul with key Hall players in trouble. It is a game of attrition, baby
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 11, 2017, 11:28:18 PM
OMG. Good clock management is math. You're not a fan of math? I hate it when teams milk the clock up 3 or 4 with 4 minutes left but up 8 with an opportunity to take it under 1:50 it is wrong to launch a 3 with 26 seconds on the clock. Period. Any coach who tells you different should be fired from his job even if it's coaching 5th grade boys or girls.
You disagree. That's fine. For this team, I prefer taking good shots when they are available. Others prefer to milk the clock. With a defense like ours, and two studs like Carrington and Rodriguez, I think 1:50 is plenty of time to make up an 8 point deficit. If we had a team of lockdown defenders, I would think differently. But our team's strength is scoring so I'd rather take the open shot.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 11, 2017, 11:35:23 PM
That shot by Chuck Reinhardt was brutal...more than the game turning from scoring to winding it down. He was wide open as a shooter could be but he also had a clear path to the hoop and a sure foul with key Hall players in trouble. It is a game of attrition, baby
This I can get behind. If Katin had a clear path to the hoop than he should have done that instead of taking the three. Always look for the highest % shot.
Quote from: mayfairskatingrink on January 11, 2017, 08:33:16 PM
Is Seton Hall really an NCAA tourney team?
At least one, if not both, of them or us are.
Right now we're tied with Seton Hall for 5th in the conference standings. The Big East will likely get at least 5 bids — that's happened the past 2 years (with 6 bids in 2015). So we're both in the running.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 11, 2017, 11:39:38 PM
You disagree. That's fine. For this team, I prefer taking good shots when they are available. Others prefer to milk the clock. With a defense like ours, and two studs like Carrington and Rodriguez, I think 1:50 is plenty of time to make up an 8 point deficit. If we had a team of lockdown defenders, I would think differently. But our team's strength is scoring so I'd rather take the open shot.
Precisely because they are such good shooters I would opt to give them less time to be able to catch up
IMHO. He should have held back on the shot
Yep, Rehash plays of the game, and Dissect whatever stats you want, But I'm sitting in the Sunshine of a Win and loving it.
Next Game up.
Quote from: Loose Cannon on January 12, 2017, 07:24:30 AM
Yep, Rehash plays of the game, and Dissect whatever stats you want, But I'm sitting in the Sunshine of a Win and loving it.
Next Game up.
Great, Wojo will be dissecting it too. Win by 30 or lose by 30 it's part of sports.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 11, 2017, 10:55:04 PM
I agree with everything in your post, Mike. Our guys were true Warriors for most of the game and all of the OT. I'm ecstatic we won this game.
But if you're not at least a little concerned about a near epic collapse down the stretch (our second in 10 days) you're not being realistic.
I'm not concerned. Their senior guard hit huge shots down the stretch, and our sophomore 83% FT shooter who played the entire game missed a couple. They gave up a crap load of offensive rebounds, but the team is getting bigger.
Here is what I see.
**A team that plays hard.
**A team that gave up the lead, with two starters on the bench, and still managed to pull out a win. Two players who were bad at times (JJJ and Katin), stepped up big in OT.
**A team that has improved defensively.
**A team that can score.
If people can't tell there is progress, they are blind.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on January 12, 2017, 08:44:27 AM
If people can't tell there is progress, they are blind.
Agreed. They should be 2-0 against a team that destroyed them twice last season.
Toughness has been a criticism of mine the past two years, but they really showed it last night. Here's hoping they build off it.
Quote from: NCMUFan on January 11, 2017, 09:20:44 PM
Is PFsHeroes32 Chico?
derangement much?
FREE the real chicos!
btw, how would chicos jump in under another name with only or already have 5400-something posts? he had over 20,000 when he was kicked off-even teal next time would be lame
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on January 12, 2017, 08:44:27 AM
Here is what I see.
**A team that plays hard.
**A team that gave up the lead, with two starters on the bench, and still managed to pull out a win. Two players who were bad at times (JJJ and Katin), stepped up big in OT.
**A team that has improved defensively.
**A team that can score.
If people can't tell there is progress, they are blind.
Perfectly stated, Sultan.
Only those who like to criticize everything and prefer negativity can look at the trajectory of this team and think it is going downhill.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 12, 2017, 08:41:15 AM
Great, Wojo will be dissecting it too. Win by 30 or lose by 30 it's part of sports.
You're Absolutely Right, and hope you have a nice Day.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 11, 2017, 11:41:51 PM
This I can get behind. If Katin had a clear path to the hoop than he should have done that instead of taking the three. Always look for the highest % shot.
My biggest issue was he hesitated. When he double pumped, he should have pulled it out. I don't think Seton Hall was going to foul intentionally and I feel we have a problem getting a good look when winding the clock down. We also seem more likely to turn it over.
Just my opinion. I can definitely see those who say it was an awful decision.
Quote from: Class71 on January 11, 2017, 08:50:37 PM
No need to defend a win against a very physical team and officials that are delusional.
Ditto
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 12, 2017, 09:10:38 AMMy biggest issue was he hesitated. When he double pumped, he should have pulled it out.
It was one of those cases of being too open. I don't know why it is, but when guys get an eternity to shoot and have time to think about it, those shots more often than not seem to be off the mark. SHU had one of those late in the game last night too that rimmed out.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 12, 2017, 08:51:33 AM
derangement much?
FREE the real chicos!
btw, how would chicos jump in under another name with only or already have 5400-something posts? he had over 20,000 when he was kicked off-even teal next time would be lame
1. It was a joke.
2. Your incessant need to defend Chicos is strange.
RS is to Chicos as Chicos is to Crean.
Quote from: MU82 on January 12, 2017, 08:52:31 AM
Perfectly stated, Sultan.
Only those who like to criticize everything and prefer negativity can look at the trajectory of this team and think it is going downhill.
+1 The guys played tougher. Showed mental toughness and I hope that they are figuring out the intensity that will be needed to close out and wins games. MU isn't the most talented team(yet) and this type of intensity/toughness will necessary to win games that are anyone's ball game at the end of the game. I have bitched a lot about a lack of toughness but even if the lost last night I wouldn't have bitched about a lack of toughness. Next couple of games could be very telling, see if MU can continue to maintain the intensity it needs to finish in the 5 spot in the BEast and get sneaky dangerous 10 seed.
Can someone tell me why JJ was replaced by Duane at the end of regulation? Duane can't hit a jump shot to save his life. It doesn't go into OT if JJ plays. Furthermore, if Duane played in OT instead of JJ, we lose the game.
Quote from: AverageJoe on January 12, 2017, 10:01:51 AM
Can someone tell me why JJ was replaced by Duane at the end of regulation? Duane can't hit a jump shot to save his life. It doesn't go into OT if JJ plays. Furthermore, if Duane played in OT instead of JJ, we lose the game.
About halfway through the second half, JJJ on consecutive possessions took a terrible shot and then turned the ball over.
Duane is a better defender. And is only a slightly worse shooter.
Quote from: AverageJoe on January 12, 2017, 10:01:51 AM
Can someone tell me why JJ was replaced by Duane at the end of regulation? Duane can't hit a jump shot to save his life. It doesn't go into OT if JJ plays. Furthermore, if Duane played in OT instead of JJ, we lose the game.
Consistent defensive effort. Less likely to take a dumb shot. And, when Duane made a couple of bad (IMO tired) plays in OT, JjJ came back in focused. With a healthy Duane, Wojo has options when JjJ's head leaves the floor.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 11, 2017, 08:12:07 PM
You are just as embarrassing as this performance
Changes need to be made
This is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.
Quote from: AverageJoe on January 12, 2017, 10:01:51 AM
Can someone tell me why JJ was replaced by Duane at the end of regulation? Duane can't hit a jump shot to save his life. It doesn't go into OT if JJ plays. Furthermore, if Duane played in OT instead of JJ, we lose the game.
Duane's more likely to stay at home on defense. Hard to completely defend JJ in OT when he followed up hitting a three by letting his man respond a heartbeat later. I didn't have a problem with Duane being in there. Also didn't have a problem with JJ being in there, they bring different things to the table but both have a place on this team and on the floor.
Quote from: AverageJoe on January 12, 2017, 10:01:51 AM
Can someone tell me why JJ was replaced by Duane at the end of regulation? Duane can't hit a jump shot to save his life. It doesn't go into OT if JJ plays. Furthermore, if Duane played in OT instead of JJ, we lose the game.
Repeated poor shots, turnovers, and defensive lapses. At least twice after turnovers he stood and stared while SH ran down the court, including the one where Markus had to chase the guy down to deny the breakaway. You're right, it doesn't go into OT if JJJ plays -- we probably lose.
Duane , OTOH, was fired up and playing with a chip on his shoulder. There is no question that JJJ is the more physically gifted player, but he is still plagued by many of the same boneheaded mistakes that he had as a freshman. Last night, Duane outplayed him.
Man. Reading scoop today, you'd assume we lost.
Did we almost blow it? Yes...
But did we lose? No...
Win
Quote from: fjm on January 12, 2017, 11:10:13 AM
Man. Reading scoop today, you'd assume we lost.
Did we almost blow it? Yes...
But did we lose? No...
Win
+1
I don't feel like I have to "twist to defend this" because we won. We beat a good SHU team. I've got no problem with that at all. If we replicate that type of result the rest of the season, it'll be a very good year.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 12, 2017, 11:13:26 AM
+1
I don't feel like I have to "twist to defend this" because we won. We beat a good SHU team. I've got no problem with that at all. If we replicate that type of result the rest of the season, it'll be a very good year.
Totally right. 8 more wins and most likely in.
7 more and we sit on the bubble or in the top seed NIT spot (which I expected this year).
Yup. Need to go 8-6 over the last 14 games. 2 games each against the bad teams. DePaul, St. John's, Providence. 1 more against Georgetown. If MU does their job, that is 7. Need to win one game out of Butler (2), X (2), Creighton (2) (don't see it. Damn, they are fast), home game against Nova. IMO, the peak is 12-6. The valley is 7-11. Doable.
Quote from: AverageJoe on January 12, 2017, 10:01:51 AM
Can someone tell me why JJ was replaced by Duane at the end of regulation? Duane can't hit a jump shot to save his life. It doesn't go into OT if JJ plays. Furthermore, if Duane played in OT instead of JJ, we lose the game.
One of these days Wojo is going to come to where you work and second guess every single one of your work decisions.
"Really? You're going to ask Lois to scan those documents for you? Everyone knows that she can't operate a scanner to save her life!"
How good would Seton Hall be if Whitehead stayed?
Quote from: warriorchick on January 12, 2017, 11:25:56 AM
One of these days Wojo is going to come to where you work and second guess every single one of your work decisions.
"Really? You're going to ask Lois to scan those documents for you? Everyone knows that she can't operate a scanner to save her life!"
+1
I've said that about Lois for 2 years now.
She's killing our productivity %, and eProd% reigns supreme.
Quote from: barfolomew on January 12, 2017, 11:50:10 AM
+1
I've said that about Lois for 2 years now.
She's killing our productivity %, and eProd% reigns supreme.
Lois is the worst.
Quote from: warriorchick on January 12, 2017, 11:55:30 AM
Lois is the worst.
So gossipy - always trying to stir $hit up.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 12, 2017, 11:34:01 AM
How good would Seton Hall be if Whitehead stayed?
How good would MU be if Ellenson stayed?
FIRE Lois ! ! !
Quote from: warriorchick on January 12, 2017, 11:25:56 AM
One of these days Wojo is going to come to where you work and second guess every single one of your work decisions.
"Really? You're going to ask Lois to scan those documents for you? Everyone knows that she can't operate a scanner to save her life!"
...but then she did.
Eloise was so much better, too bad she kept taking reams of copy paper home.
Lois is being impacted by Chick's mind games.
Quote from: tower912 on January 12, 2017, 11:22:46 AM
Yup. Need to go 8-6 over the last 14 games. 2 games each against the bad teams. DePaul, St. John's, Providence. 1 more against Georgetown. If MU does their job, that is 7. Need to win one game out of Butler (2), X (2), Creighton (2) (don't see it. Damn, they are fast), home game against Nova. IMO, the peak is 12-6. The valley is 7-11. Doable.
Man I really think we end up 9-9.
I see us stealing a win from X or butler. Then losing one to providence or St. John's.
Quote from: warriorchick on January 12, 2017, 11:25:56 AM
One of these days Wojo is going to come to where you work and second guess every single one of your work decisions.
"Really? You're going to ask Lois to scan those documents for you? Everyone knows that she can't operate a scanner to save her life!"
I really want this to happen.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 12, 2017, 01:51:48 PM
I really want this to happen.
It's too bad the Big East is on FS1. It would make an excellent SportsCenter commercial.
Quote from: fjm on January 12, 2017, 01:40:28 PM
Man I really think we end up 9-9.
I see us stealing a win from X or butler. Then losing one to providence or St. John's.
Is winning at home against X or Butler really stealing one?
I mean yeah we may be the underdogs but those are not far fetched wins at all.
Yes, it would be. After Saturday, 3 straight losses are likely. Accept it. Don't come unglued and say things that come back to bite you.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 12, 2017, 06:07:15 PM
Is winning at home against X or Butler really stealing one?
I mean yeah we may be the underdogs but those are not far fetched wins at all.
Yeah not an upset because they are ranked 12-15 in polls. You trolling our wtf??
Quote from: warriorchick on January 12, 2017, 11:55:30 AM
Lois is the worst.
But Lois does own the lane.
She's super, man.
Quote from: Newsdrms on January 12, 2017, 08:48:21 PM
Yeah not an upset because they are ranked 12-15 in polls. You trolling our wtf??
Can you read? Like at all? Or do you just struggle with terms?
"Stealing one" is typically not a phrase any rational person uses when the spread is within reach.
At home vs Butler? They will not be favored by much at all. We absolutely can win that game and it would be "stealing one".
Are you trolling?
You really need to let go of some of your anger.
Quote from: tower912 on January 12, 2017, 06:19:21 PM
Yes, it would be. After Saturday, 3 straight losses are likely. Accept it. Don't come unglued and say things that come back to bite you.
Uhhhh ok?
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 13, 2017, 07:01:36 AM
Can you read? Like at all? Or do you just struggle with terms?
"Stealing one" is typically not a phrase any rational person uses when the spread is within reach.
At home vs Butler? They will not be favored by much at all. We absolutely can win that game and it would be "stealing one".
Are you trolling?
Ok so winning a game you are not favored in, an upset, is not "stealing one" got it. There is a magical spread to steal one when it is an upset.
Why feed trolls?
Bump
Excellent way to back up beating Nova.
What exactly is the point of bumping this?
Really bitching and complaining whenever they have a bad game makes you sound like nothing but a chicken little.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on February 01, 2017, 07:07:57 PM
What exactly is the point of bumping this?
Really bitching and complaining whenever they have a bad game makes you sound like nothing but a chicken little.
Didn't bitch about Butler, or providence. Or heck any of the other losses.
It would be a SHU(win) and this first time loss.
Great call tho.
Quote from: tower912 on January 13, 2017, 07:04:01 AM
You really need to let go of some of your anger.
Bump, for clarity.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 01, 2017, 07:12:49 PM
Didn't bitch about Butler, or providence. Or heck any of the other losses.
It would be a SHU(win) and this first time loss.
Great call tho.
You complain all the time. Quit spinning.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on February 01, 2017, 07:26:07 PM
You complain all the time. Quit spinning.
It's not spinning.
I did not bitch at all following those games. Not once.
Stop getting butt hurt because someone doesn't enjoy getting blown out by St John's.
You enjoy losing, congrats. I. AM. NOT.YOU.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 01, 2017, 07:27:46 PM
It's not spinning.
I did not bitch at all following those games. Not once.
Stop getting butt hurt because someone doesn't enjoy getting blown out by St John's.
You enjoy losing, congrats. I. AM. NOT.YOU.
Nobody here enjoys losing and nobody here enjoys you.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 01, 2017, 07:27:46 PM
It's not spinning.
I did not bitch at all following those games. Not once.
Stop getting butt hurt because someone doesn't enjoy getting blown out by St John's.
You enjoy losing, congrats. I. AM. NOT.YOU.
You have a similar composure as Marquette trying to break St.Johns press.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on February 01, 2017, 07:33:51 PM
You have a similar composure as Marquette trying to break St.Johns press.
I just don't enjoy losing by 20 to terrible teams
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 01, 2017, 07:35:08 PM
I just don't enjoy losing by 20 to terrible teams
No one does.
But not every loss means the program is falling apart.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on February 01, 2017, 07:38:57 PM
No one does.
But not every loss means the program is falling apart.
Didn't say the program is falling apart.
But losing two straight to garbage teams and missing 4 straight tournaments is a very bad thing.
First part is a reality, second is looking more and more likely. Throwing the season away and not adjusting.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 01, 2017, 07:42:11 PM
Didn't say the program is falling apart.
But losing two straight to garbage teams and missing 4 straight tournaments is a very bad thing.
First part is a reality, second is looking more and more likely. Throwing the season away and not adjusting.
What adjustments are there to make?
Quote from: g0lden3agle on February 01, 2017, 07:55:55 PM
What adjustments are there to make?
Play some D?
Learn to dribble?
Adjust to teams forcing us to drive?
Are you even watching?
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 01, 2017, 07:57:00 PM
Play some D?
Learn to dribble?
Adjust to teams forcing us to drive?
Are you even watching?
Those aren't adjustments. Those are just statements.
They've tried different defenses. They've tried different line ups. Too small on the perimeter and too slow and soft inside.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on February 01, 2017, 08:00:36 PM
Those aren't adjustments. Those are just statements.
They've tried different defenses. They've tried different line ups. Too small on the perimeter and too slow and soft inside.
Incorrect
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 01, 2017, 07:57:00 PM
Play some D?
Learn to dribble?
Adjust to teams forcing us to drive?
Are you even watching?
I missed you last week. Were you on vacation? MU must have lost a couple, cuz you're back.
Quote from: tower912 on February 01, 2017, 08:04:22 PM
I missed you last week. Were you on vacation? MU must have lost a couple, cuz you're back.
I was here.
Thanks for proving my point.
It's noticeable when we truly suck
Tonight was bad.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on February 01, 2017, 07:07:57 PM
What exactly is the point of bumping this?
Really bitching and complaining whenever they have a bad game makes you sound like nothing but a chicken little.
He just enjoys being an Ahole
Quote from: Newsdrms on February 01, 2017, 08:24:21 PM
He just enjoys being an Ahole
Being upset over awful performances isn't being an pretty boy.
Calling someone names because they do something you don't "approve of"....is in fact being one.
Congrats.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 01, 2017, 10:06:09 PM
Being upset over awful performances isn't being an pretty boy.
Calling someone names because they do something you don't "approve of"....is in fact being one.
Congrats.
I don't care about someone doing something I "don't approve of". That is not the case, it is just that you are an Ahole.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 01, 2017, 10:06:09 PM
Being upset over awful performances isn't being an pretty boy.
Calling someone names because they do something you don't "approve of"....is in fact being one.
Congrats.
But using the term "retarded" as an insult when the team isn't playing well isn't being an ahole. Super classy.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 01, 2017, 06:29:59 PM
Get up 6
Then go full retard on offense
If we don't play defense we wont win or make the tourney period. Can't give up that many points to a not so great St johns. A team that hasn't even talked about making the tournament
Quote from: wadesworld on February 01, 2017, 10:20:16 PM
But using the term "retarded" as an insult when the team isn't playing well isn't being an ahole. Super classy.
Didn't call someone a retard.
I said the offense itself went full retard.
Good lord is your comprehension that poor?
Quote from: wadesworld on February 01, 2017, 10:20:16 PM
But using the term "retarded" as an insult when the team isn't playing well isn't being an ahole. Super classy.
Also, if you're going to quote shouldn't it be the correct word?
Quote from: Newsdrms on February 01, 2017, 10:15:39 PM
I don't care about someone doing something I "don't approve of". That is not the case, it is just that you are an Ahole.
Once again, calling names is being an ahole.
So basically the only thing you have contributed is finite proof that you are in fact a hypocritical ahole.
Dammit, am I one too now for pointing it out?
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 01, 2017, 11:13:33 PM
Didn't call someone a retard.
I said the offense itself went full retard.
Good lord is your comprehension that poor?
Using any form of the word "retard" to try to belittle anything is beyond embarrassingly offensive. You probably think it's "cool" to call something you don't like or agree with "gay" too.
Which makes you an ahole, and the fact that you don't see the problem and defend what you said just further proves it.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 01, 2017, 11:33:51 PM
Using any form of the word "retard" to try to belittle anything is beyond embarrassingly offensive. You probably think it's "cool" to call something you don't like or agree with "gay" too.
Which makes you an ahole, and the fact that you don't see the problem and defend what you said just further proves it.
Obviously that must be what you call something you don't agree with.
I mean, you're the only one associating "gay" with being "uncool".
Great work again.
It's the in depth discussion like this that really makes Scoop must read for any Marquette fan.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 02, 2017, 12:01:24 AM
Obviously that must be what you call something you don't agree with.
I mean, you're the only one associating "gay" with being "uncool".
Great work again.
Dude,
People are reacting to your constant negativity. You've spent more than 5,000 posts with a vast majority of them being nothing but whining. No one likes to see their team lose, but endlessly moaning about it will grate on people's nerves.
And if you haven't figured out yet that using "retard" or "gay" in a derogatory manner is no longer acceptable, I don't know what to tell you.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 01, 2017, 07:57:00 PM
Play some D?
Learn to dribble?
Adjust to teams forcing us to drive?
Are you even watching?
Like Sultan said, these aren't adjustments. These are identifying things we're doing poorly.
No amount of coaching or adjustments would have prevented the inexcusable turnovers while dribbling.
We're throwing just about every defensive adjustment we have in our bag of tricks and yet no matter what there's always at least one glaring deficiency that the other team manages to find.
With regards to teams forcing us to drive - I thought we were doing a great job with the shot fakes, getting the defender up in the air, and then doing something. I agree that we drive without even thinking "pass" too often.
At the end of the day 2 players accounted for 11 turnovers, a large majority of which I would put in the "preventable" category. I'm not sure what you're supposed to do in a train wreck situation like that.
Only people that can drive and finish constantly is JJ and Howard
Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on February 02, 2017, 08:19:06 AM
Only people that can drive and finish constantly is JJ and Howard
I think you are watching different games than the rest of us. Both have tendencies to drive into nothing and take bad shots or turn the ball over. They are 8th and 9th on the team in turnover percentage. (That means they are the two worst remaining scholarship players.)
The last few games the only one of our guards that seems to drive with a purpose is Rowsey...and sometimes Duane.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 01, 2017, 07:35:08 PM
I just don't enjoy losing by 20 to terrible teams
I just don't know why you think SJU is terrible? Quite honestly, they have a pretty good core group of players that are quick, athletic and dangerous. You act as if we are so much better. The margin of difference in BE teams outside of Nova and DePaul is very small (for obvious different reasons) is very small.
Quote from: 79Warrior on February 02, 2017, 11:25:59 AM
I just don't know why you think SJU is terrible? Quite honestly, they have a pretty good core group of players that are quick, athletic and dangerous. You act as if we are so much better. The margin of difference in BE teams outside of Nova and DePaul is very small (for obvious different reasons) is very small.
Correct between 2nd & 8th place only a 3.5 game difference with 8/7 games remaining
Another meltdown.
Going to be 1-4 since Nova win.
But it will be defended again...
And no. I didn't bitch about Butler
Quote from: TSmith34 on February 02, 2017, 05:41:44 AM
Dude,
People are reacting to your constant negativity. You've spent more than 5,000 posts with a vast majority of them being nothing but whining. No one likes to see their team lose, but endlessly moaning about it will grate on people's nerves.
And if you haven't figured out yet that using "retard" or "gay" in a derogatory manner is no longer acceptable, I don't know what to tell you.
I didn't use gay.
Referencing a movie is acceptable.
You gonna survive?
Can't even wait til the game is over huh?
As a fan, I hope they win. If they don't, hope they win the next. I like to keep things simple.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 11, 2017, 12:03:38 PM
Can't even wait til the game is over huh?
Nope. I reap what I sow.
This one is over. It's embarrassing the lack of fight.
Now I'm just gonna wait for wades do defend missing dunks etc...