They lost to UNC Asheville
http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400840259
Georgetown is now 6,5 and DePaul must be thinking they will not be in last place this year.
JT III and the Hoyas disappoint regularly. Hoyasincebirth is in for another "underachieving" year.
Soooo tempted to drive the 6 hours to DC for the Jan. 2 game.
Paid attendance of 7467. Yikes. That said, they have too much young talent not to improve over break. MU has had some stinkers this year too, although Wojo has turned that around when MU hit bottom. I think MU and GU will be battling it out in the 4-6 range in conference.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 20, 2015, 08:46:35 AM
Paid attendance of 7467. Yikes.
That's an improvement over the 4,062, 4,590, and 5,258 figures from the three other games.
Fans vote with their wallets: Georgetown has lost a third of its ticket base since the Big East rebooted.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 20, 2015, 08:46:35 AM
Paid attendance of 7467. Yikes. That said, they have too much young talent not to improve over break. MU has had some stinkers this year too, although Wojo has turned that around when MU hit bottom. I think MU and GU will be battling it out in the 4-6 range in conference.
What part of this record says top 4 in the BE? (note their best win, Syracuse, is now in full collapse)
at, Nov 14 vs Radford L 82-80 2OT 0-1 (0-0)
Tue, Nov 17 @ #3 Maryland L 75-71 0-2 (0-0)
Fri, Nov 20 vs Wisconsin* W 71-61 1-2 (0-0)
Sun, Nov 22 vs #5 Duke* L 86-84 1-3 (0-0)
Sat, Nov 28 vs Bryant W 77-47 2-3 (0-0)
Tue, Dec 1 vs Maryland-ES W 68-49 3-3 (0-0)
Sat, Dec 5 vs #14 Syracuse W 79-72 4-3 (0-0)
Mon, Dec 7 vs Brown W 74-57 5-3 (0-0)
Sat, Dec 12 vs UNC Wil W 87-82 6-3 (0-0)
Tue, Dec 15 vs Monmouth L 83-68 6-4 (0-0)
Sat, Dec 19 vs UNC Asheville L 79-73 6-5 (0-0)
Tue, Dec 22 @ Charlotte 7:00 PM ET CBS Sports Network
Wed, Dec 30 @ DePaul 9:00 PM ET FOX Sports 1
Quote from: DFW HOYA on December 20, 2015, 08:55:59 AM
That's an improvement over the 4,062, 4,590, and 5,258 figures from the three other games.
Fans vote with their wallets: Georgetown has lost a third of its ticket base since the Big East rebooted.
Not the fault of the reboot, GU keeps putting a crappy product on the floor.
They would have lost a third under the old BE with this record.
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 20, 2015, 08:59:00 AM
What part of this record says top 4 in the BE? (note their best win, Syracuse, is now in full collapse)
at, Nov 14 vs Radford L 82-80 2OT 0-1 (0-0)
Tue, Nov 17 @ #3 Maryland L 75-71 0-2 (0-0)
Fri, Nov 20 vs Wisconsin* W 71-61 1-2 (0-0)
Sun, Nov 22 vs #5 Duke* L 86-84 1-3 (0-0)
Sat, Nov 28 vs Bryant W 77-47 2-3 (0-0)
Tue, Dec 1 vs Maryland-ES W 68-49 3-3 (0-0)
Sat, Dec 5 vs #14 Syracuse W 79-72 4-3 (0-0)
Mon, Dec 7 vs Brown W 74-57 5-3 (0-0)
Sat, Dec 12 vs UNC Wil W 87-82 6-3 (0-0)
Tue, Dec 15 vs Monmouth L 83-68 6-4 (0-0)
Sat, Dec 19 vs UNC Asheville L 79-73 6-5 (0-0)
Tue, Dec 22 @ Charlotte 7:00 PM ET CBS Sports Network
Wed, Dec 30 @ DePaul 9:00 PM ET FOX Sports 1
GT's best games were its wins over Syracuse and Wisconsin (both of which were overrated at the time) and, probably moreso, its narrow losses to Maryland and Duke. Losing at home to Radford, Monmouth and Asheville ... wow. Oh, and losing at home in two weeks to Marquette, too!!
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 20, 2015, 09:01:30 AM
Not the fault of the reboot, GU keeps putting a crappy product on the floor.
There's a trend here and it's not just this season.
2007-08: 12,955
2008-09: 12,826
2009-10: 12,040
2010-11: 12,675
2011-12: 11,283
2012-13: 10,911
2013-14: 8,670
2014-15: 9,630
2015-16: 7,988
I think it's just about time for JTIII to go. Granted, Radford, UNC-Asheville, and (especially) Monmouth are better cupcakes than we've faced, but they've underachieved for years. He's 3-6 in the NCAAs since his Final Four run and hasn't been out of the first weekend since 2007. Reality is he got a Sweet 16 and Final Four run in his first three years and hasn't really achieved success since. For a school that's supposed to be one of our flagships, they need to be better.
Now admittedly, we've underachieved since the reformation of the Big East, but everyone knows this is a total rebuild. GT is trying to sell a young core and a star in DSR and they still aren't winning. And it doesn't help that their wins over UW and Syracuse look less and less impressive as the weeks go on.
Problem is, he's got that last name, and I can't see them every firing John Thompson, even if he's a pale shadow of the real John Thompson.
The bolded part explains GU's attendence.
RPI KenPom
2007-08: 12,955 8
2008-09: 12,826 24
2009-10: 12,040 16
2010-11: 12,675 16 36
2011-12: 11,283 13 16
2012-13: 10,911 10 12
2013-14: 8,670 66 65
2014-15: 9,630 25 24
2015-16: 7,988 165 66
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 20, 2015, 09:23:17 AM
The bolded part explains GU's attendence.
RPI KenPom
2007-08: 12,955 8
2008-09: 12,826 24
2009-10: 12,040 16
2010-11: 12,675 16 36
2011-12: 11,283 13 16
2012-13: 10,911 10 12
2013-14: 8,670 66 65
2014-15: 9,630 25 24
2015-16: 7,988 165 66
That's hugely relevant. But you can't possibly suggest attendance wasn't impacted by losing yearly conference games against UConn, Louisville, Pitt, Notre Dame, Cincy, and, hell, even WVU. The product is the biggest factor but the composition of the new Big East is a factor, too.
Quote from: Babybluejeans on December 20, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
That's hugely relevant. But you can't possibly suggest attendance wasn't impacted by losing yearly conference games against UConn, Louisville, Pitt, Notre Dame, Cincy, and, hell, even WVU. The product is the biggest factor but the composition of the new Big East is a factor, too.
So all the New BE teams are seeing their attendance fall?
Quote from: MU82 on December 20, 2015, 08:33:32 AM
Soooo tempted to drive the 6 hours to DC for the Jan. 2 game.
Go for it, kin. May da Force be with ya, ai na?
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 20, 2015, 09:13:46 AM
I think it's just about time for JTIII to go. Granted, Radford, UNC-Asheville, and (especially) Monmouth are better cupcakes than we've faced, but they've underachieved for years. He's 3-6 in the NCAAs since his Final Four run and hasn't been out of the first weekend since 2007. Reality is he got a Sweet 16 and Final Four run in his first three years and hasn't really achieved success since. For a school that's supposed to be one of our flagships, they need to be better.
Now admittedly, we've underachieved since the reformation of the Big East, but everyone knows this is a total rebuild. GT is trying to sell a young core and a star in DSR and they still aren't winning. And it doesn't help that their wins over UW and Syracuse look less and less impressive as the weeks go on.
Problem is, he's got that last name, and I can't see them every firing John Thompson, even if he's a pale shadow of the real John Thompson.
Exactly. I think it is called the Joey Meyer problem. JTIII resigning is the best for all parties, but that won't happen. I've thought this for a couple of season. Maybe he can turn it around, but this will probably be DePaul/Joey Meyer all over again.
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 20, 2015, 09:58:49 AM
So all the New BE teams are seeing their attendance fall?
If I remember correct, I think every Catholic 7 school saw a drop in attendance after the formation of the new Big East. But--and this is a point you seem to ignore--no one's suggesting the on-court product isn't the biggest reason in falling attendance. To suggest it's the ONLY reason, at least for schools like Georgetown, Villanova, and Marquette, that's silly. Opponents matter.
Quote from: Babybluejeans on December 20, 2015, 11:04:02 AM
If I remember correct, I think every Catholic 7 school saw a drop in attendance after the formation of the new Big East. But--and this is a point you seem to ignore--no one's suggesting the on-court product isn't the biggest reason in falling attendance. To suggest it's the ONLY reason, at least for schools like Georgetown, Villanova, and Marquette, that's silly. Opponents matter.
Yep. The heyday won't be replicated. But solid on court performance maximizes the potential.
Quote from: Babybluejeans on December 20, 2015, 11:04:02 AM
If I remember correct, I think every Catholic 7 school saw a drop in attendance after the formation of the new Big East. But--and this is a point you seem to ignore--no one's suggesting the on-court product isn't the biggest reason in falling attendance. To suggest it's the ONLY reason, at least for schools like Georgetown, Villanova, and Marquette, that's silly. Opponents matter.
What you see is a larger issue with college basketball and you're incorrectly blaming the BE for it.
All NCAA D1 has approx 5,000 games a year. 225 to 250 neutral court games.
http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statistics/ncaa-mens-basketball-attendance
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2015.pdf
Year All D1 games Neutral court games
2015 4,754 6,381
2014 4,817 6,854
2013 4,921 7,091
2012 4,994 7,219
2011 5,025 7,610
2010 5,038 7,551
2009 5,185 7,213
2008 5,325 7,379
2007 5,327 7,968
Since 2011 all college basketball attendence has lost 11% of its attendance, 20% for neutral court games! Has the new Big East, in total, declined by more than 11%?
Why? I think three reasons:
1) proliferation of HD TVs and HD broadcasts since 2007
2) New sports contracts and TV networks so now virtually every game is broadcast nationally (in HD)
3) John Calipari and Coach K. The one and done model is hurting the casual viewers interest. Once they learn who the stars are, they leave. No continuity from year to year for the causal fan.
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 20, 2015, 11:37:16 AM
1) proliferation of HD TVs and HD broadcasts since 2007
2) New sports contracts and TV networks so now virtually every game is broadcast nationally (in HD)
3) John Calipari and Coach K. The one and done model is hurting the casual viewers interest. Once they learn who the stars are, they leave. No continuity from year to year for the causal fan.
4. As Chicos pointed out in another post, the economy has had an impact as well.
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 20, 2015, 11:37:16 AM
What you see is a larger issue with college basketball and you're incorrectly blaming the BE for it.
All NCAA D1 has approx 5,000 games a year. 225 to 250 neutral court games.
http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statistics/ncaa-mens-basketball-attendance
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2015.pdf
Year All D1 games Neutral court games
2015 4,754 6,381
2014 4,817 6,854
2013 4,921 7,091
2012 4,994 7,219
2011 5,025 7,610
2010 5,038 7,551
2009 5,185 7,213
2008 5,325 7,379
2007 5,327 7,968
Since 2011 all college basketball attendence has lost 11% of its attendance, 20% for neutral court games! Has the new Big East, in total, declined by more than 11%?
Why? I think three reasons:
1) proliferation of HD TVs and HD broadcasts since 2007
2) New sports contracts and TV networks so now virtually every game is broadcast nationally (in HD)
3) John Calipari and Coach K. The one and done model is hurting the casual viewers interest. Once they learn who the stars are, they leave. No continuity from year to year for the causal fan.
Does that mean you've revised your initial hypothesis that the reason for Gtown's declining attendance is due to the "crappy product on the floor"?
Quote from: Babybluejeans on December 20, 2015, 11:04:02 AM
If I remember correct, I think every Catholic 7 school saw a drop in attendance after the formation of the new Big East. But--and this is a point you seem to ignore--no one's suggesting the on-court product isn't the biggest reason in falling attendance. To suggest it's the ONLY reason, at least for schools like Georgetown, Villanova, and Marquette, that's silly. Opponents matter.
This is Heisenberg's thread. Don't be surprised in the least bit that he'll ignore the parts that would lead to a mutual agreement just so that he can keep you coming back for more clicks and more responses in his thread. Scoop is his personal popularity contest, won by responses within threads started by a poster.
Having said all that, is he the one who also started a thread saying Iowa wasn't good when they lost an exhibition game? That one worked out well for Marquette too...
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 20, 2015, 11:50:24 AM
Does that mean you've revised your initial hypothesis that the reason for Gtown's declining attendance is due to the "crappy product on the floor"?
It means he wants more clicks so if someone agrees with what he said, he'll go and say the opposite thing just to get more of an argument and more responses.
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 20, 2015, 11:50:24 AM
Does that mean you've revised your initial hypothesis that the reason for Gtown's declining attendance is due to the "crappy product on the floor"?
All college basketball attendance is down 11%
Georgetown is down 39% over the same period.
So the first 11% is the larger CBB trend, the rest is Georgetown's crappy product.
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 20, 2015, 11:58:38 AM
All college basketball attendance is down 11%
Georgetown is down 39% over the same period.
So the first 11% is the larger CBB trend, the rest is Georgetown's crappy product.
That's not not how causation works.
Quote from: Babybluejeans on December 20, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
That's hugely relevant. But you can't possibly suggest attendance wasn't impacted by losing yearly conference games against UConn, Louisville, Pitt, Notre Dame, Cincy, and, hell, even WVU. The product is the biggest factor but the composition of the new Big East is a factor, too.
Looks to me like they started losing attendance before the new Big East came into being.
Quote from: GOO on December 20, 2015, 10:32:22 AM
Exactly. I think it is called the Joey Meyer problem. JTIII resigning is the best for all parties, but that won't happen. I've thought this for a couple of season. Maybe he can turn it around, but this will probably be DePaul/Joey Meyer all over again.
Georgetown invests heavily into the hoops program. DePaul didn't. Thus it won't be a pure repeat. Besides, they have gone to the NCAAs 6 of the last 8 years, and the NIT the other two years. They haven't performed well in the tournament, but that's a crap shoot anyway. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. This board made the same mistake a few years ago saying Jay Wright was done and Nova should fire him, and all he's done is dominate the Big East.
Wonder if the guy who posts here now and then still thinks they'll get a 2 seed. lol
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 20, 2015, 01:05:05 PM
Wonder if the guy who posts here now and then still thinks they'll get a 2 seed. lol
It was a 1 seed. He thought they were going to win both the BE regular season and tourney just like Nova last year. Oops.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 20, 2015, 01:33:55 PM
It was a 1 seed. He thought they were going to win both the BE regular season and tourney just like Nova last year. Oops.
To be completely fair to the guy, thats not quite what he said. He said realistically they would get a 3 seed (which I do agree looks a bit crazy now)
Quote from: hoyasincebirth on October 29, 2015, 03:43:52 PM
Heart: Hoyas get a 1 seed as they win both the regular season and BET.
More realistically: Hoyas get a 3 seed.
You guys wanna read some crazy Georgetown stuff go to their board! Jeeze these guys are still convinced they get an at large big or are good enough to win the big east.
You know what's crazy about this. How bad would Georgetown have been if DSR would have left early like he originally planned?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 20, 2015, 12:08:03 PM
Georgetown invests heavily into the hoops program. DePaul didn't. Thus it won't be a pure repeat. Besides, they have gone to the NCAAs 6 of the last 8 years, and the NIT the other two years. They haven't performed well in the tournament, but that's a crap shoot anyway. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. This board made the same mistake a few years ago saying Jay Wright was done and Nova should fire him, and all he's done is dominate the Big East.
When you consistently underperform in the tournament doesn't it lose its randomness a little?
Quote from: LAZER on December 21, 2015, 11:51:14 AM
When you consistently underperform in the tournament doesn't it lose its randomness a little?
Yeah, Wooden and Izzo = JT III and TC with better luck.
Here's the thing about Georgetown; if they had won those last two games they would most likely have been in or near the top 25 today. Talk of a high seed is probably over, but an NCAA bid is not out of the question just yet. Monmouth is probably an NCAA at large team this year, with wins over UCLA, Notre Dame, USC, Rutgers, and obviously Georgetown. UNCA not so much. That said, Georgetown still has chances in the BE against Nova, Butler, Xavier, Providence, hell Seton Hall if they win their last OOC game against USF. If Georgetown doesn't have another head-scratcher against Charlotte (disastrous) and can steal one at UConn later in the year, then a strong conference performance could get them in at-large depending on who they are competing with. This is also a team with the composition to get hot in the BE tournament and steal an extra bid for the BE.
We just need to steal 7 out of 8 between Georgetown, Creighton, SJ, and DePaul. If those teams are going to be deadweight in the conference, then we need to get extra victories out of it.
Quote from: source? on December 21, 2015, 12:30:49 PM
Here's the thing about Georgetown; if they had won those last two games they would most likely have been in or near the top 25 today. Talk of a high seed is probably over, but an NCAA bid is not out of the question just yet. Monmouth is probably an NCAA at large team this year, with wins over UCLA, Notre Dame, USC, Rutgers, and obviously Georgetown. UNCA not so much. That said, Georgetown still has chances in the BE against Nova, Butler, Xavier, Providence, hell Seton Hall if they win their last OOC game against USF. If Georgetown doesn't have another head-scratcher against Charlotte (disastrous) and can steal one at UConn later in the year, then a strong conference performance could get them in at-large depending on who they are competing with. This is also a team with the composition to get hot in the BE tournament and steal an extra bid for the BE.
Doubtful that Monmouth gets an at large.
Quote from: LAZER on December 21, 2015, 11:51:14 AM
When you consistently underperform in the tournament doesn't it lose its randomness a little?
No. It's all a crapshoot. It's why you see 16 seeds winning the title as often as you see 1 seeds winning the title...
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 21, 2015, 01:46:24 PM
Doubtful that Monmouth gets an at large.
Yeah. Anything more than 2 losses in conference and they are probably out of at large consideration. The have a loss to Canisus (in confernce) and the MAAC is bad and plays 20 conference games, so the RPI will really drop.
Now, if they can get to 18-2 in conference, 27-4 overall? They have a shot. But I doubt that happens since they're already 1-1 and are about to play teams who are a lot more familiar with their style/personnel
Quote from: GOO on December 20, 2015, 10:32:22 AM
Exactly. I think it is called the Joey Meyer problem. JTIII resigning is the best for all parties, but that won't happen. I've thought this for a couple of season. Maybe he can turn it around, but this will probably be DePaul/Joey Meyer all over again.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 20, 2015, 12:08:03 PM
Georgetown invests heavily into the hoops program. DePaul didn't. Thus it won't be a pure repeat. Besides, they have gone to the NCAAs 6 of the last 8 years, and the NIT the other two years. They haven't performed well in the tournament, but that's a crap shoot anyway. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. This board made the same mistake a few years ago saying Jay Wright was done and Nova should fire him, and all he's done is dominate the Big East.
Another difference is under JTIII, Georgetown is still recruiting well. At least they are getting highly sought recruits, even if the recruits aren't showing it on the floor. Were there's talent, there's hope, I think.
Scary thought, at this point, andymartinelli2's analysis only gives us a one in three shot of winning at Georgetown.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=49810.0 (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=49810.0)
I think the Big East is guaranteed 5 bids and could get 6 if the right team finishes 6th.
This is were I see a team having to finish at worst to get a bid.
I think Xavier is the only team that could finish 7th in our league and still get a bid.
These teams could finish 6th and still get a bid: Providence, Butler and Villanova
These teams have to finish 5th or higher to get a bid: Seton Hall, Marquette or Georgetown
Creighton needs to finish in top 4
St. John's or DePaul need to finish in top 3 (this will not happen, so essentially they need to win Big East tournament)
Quote from: bilsu on December 21, 2015, 03:21:15 PM
I think the Big East is guaranteed 5 bids and could get 6 if the right team finishes 6th.
This is were I see a team having to finish at worst to get a bid.
I think Xavier is the only team that could finish 7th in our league and still get a bid.
These teams could finish 6th and still get a bid: Providence, Butler and Villanova
These teams have to finish 5th or higher to get a bid: Seton Hall, Marquette or Georgetown
Creighton needs to finish in top 4
St. John's or DePaul need to finish in top 3 (this will not happen, so essentially they need to win Big East tournament)
That doesn't seem like 5 guaranteed to me. For instance if after Nova/X/Butler/Prov the standings were:
5. Creighton
6. G'town
7. Seton Hall
8. MU
9/10: DePaul/SJU
Then it seems to me that only the top four make it.
Quote from: MUMountin on December 21, 2015, 04:38:54 PM
That doesn't seem like 5 guaranteed to me. For instance if after Nova/X/Butler/Prov the standings were:
5. Creighton
6. G'town
7. Seton Hall
8. MU
9/10: DePaul/SJU
Then it seems to me that only the top four make it.
I actually think if that is the case it would be only the top 4 in the NCAA Tournament.
anyone else SUPER paranoid about this thread before our 2nd true road game?
We look much better right now but dog forbid they don't shake the holiday break inconsistencies before 1/2/16
Quote from: naginiF on December 21, 2015, 07:43:18 PM
anyone else SUPER paranoid about this thread before our 2nd true road game?
We look much better right now but dog forbid they don't shake the holiday break inconsistencies before 1/2/16
Not paranoid about it at all, I'm expecting at least 1 loss to Georgetown this year. There's still talent on the roster. So they've played a few bad games. Uh oh? How many people thought we'd be at 10-2 after our first 3 games (loss to a not so great Belmont team at home, OT at home to IUPUI, absolutely smoked by Iowa at home)? It's college basketball. They are 18-22 year old kids. They aren't professionals.
Remember the thread about Iowa not being good when they lost an exhibition game? Yeah...
For the record, I think its worth noting that Tre Campbell and Paul White (2 of Georgetown's best players - both returners) have been out for most of the year. Tre Campbell has battled an extended illness and Paul White hasn't played much at all because of an injury. Still plenty of time for them to get it together and they have enough talent to compete for top 3-4 in BE.
Quote from: MUMountin on December 21, 2015, 04:38:54 PM
That doesn't seem like 5 guaranteed to me. For instance if after Nova/X/Butler/Prov the standings were:
5. Creighton
6. G'town
7. Seton Hall
8. MU
9/10: DePaul/SJU
Then it seems to me that only the top four make it.
I think it would depend how far back (how many games behind) Creighton was to the fourth place team. Top four go 13-4 and Creighton goes 11-7 would show a clear separation. Creighton getting the 5th spot, by losing a tie breaker with the 4th team does not. Of course the 5th place team plays the fourth place team in the Big East tournament. Having the 5th & 6th place teams getting first round byes could hurt those teams in getting a bid. They are the teams that really could use another victory that they could get by playing the last two teams in the conference, which would happen it the conference had 12 teams.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 21, 2015, 01:46:24 PM
Doubtful that Monmouth gets an at large.
Actually...they might. I ran a few RPI Wizard scenarios and if they go 15-3 or better and win at least one MAAC tourney game they're likely looking at a top-30 RPI. No guarantee they'd get in, but if they don't get the autobid they'll be a legitimate bid thief.
Oops. Bump.
Quote from: tower912 on January 02, 2016, 08:13:50 PM
Oops. Bump.
Yeah. These threads are working well. 2 for 2 so far. Any other teams we want to try this with only to lose by double digits to? I think we have one for St John's already...
This post was started when they were 6 and 5 after losing to Monmouth and UNC-Ashevlle at home!
I guess we supposed to ignore horrific losses and just see the word 'Georgetown" and think "good."
Quote from: wadesworld on January 02, 2016, 10:09:51 PM
Yeah. These threads are working well. 2 for 2 so far. Any other teams we want to try this with only to lose by double digits to? I think we have one for St John's already...
Sad truth is that the OP is right - Georgetown is not good. A little better than us maybe but not good.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 02, 2016, 10:27:57 PM
Sad truth is that the OP is right - Georgetown is not good. A little better than us maybe but not good.
We'll see about that.
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 02, 2016, 10:24:54 PM
This post was started when they were 6 and 5 after losing to Monmouth and UNC-Ashevlle at home!
I guess we supposed to ignore horrific losses and just see the word 'Georgetown" and think "good."
Actually, we should take it for what they are, early season losses and teams can get better.
I am trying to figure out how GT lost those games. They are so physically tough, and their bigs have talent. Govan reminded me of a slightly slimmer Davante -- even shoots FTs in the 90% range!
I was most impressed with DSR. Very in control. Willing to be the passer and focus on getting his teammates going almost all game. But then when GT needed him to step up and make big shots, he did. That is how a college 2 can show the NBA he can play 1.
This was the first time I've seen more than a couple minutes of GT this season and I'm still scratchin' my head about how they possibly lost to UNC-Asheville, etc.
Quote from: MU82 on January 02, 2016, 10:31:10 PM
I am trying to figure out how GT lost those games. They are so physically tough, and their bigs have talent. Govan reminded me of a slightly slimmer Davante -- even shoots FTs in the 90% range!
I was most impressed with DSR. Very in control. Willing to be the passer and focus on getting his teammates going almost all game. But then when GT needed him to step up and make big shots, he did. That is how a college 2 can show the NBA he can play 1.
This was the first time I've seen more than a couple minutes of GT this season and I'm still scratchin' my head about how they possibly lost to UNC-Asheville, etc.
We play to the level of our opponents. We basically showed no energy or desire in our losses. If we come to play we can compete with the best teams in the country. If we mail it in we can lose to anyone. Luckily no more cupcakes on the schedule to mail it in against. Georgetown is still a good team and will win a lot of games the rest of the way.
This thread is accurate. Georgetown is not good. Sadly, right now, neither are we. Hoyas had zero offensive execution in the second half. If not for our woeful, predictable offense we would have beat them comfortably after facing a 19 point deficit.
Instead, we put Luke on an island without an outlet, missed a ton of no-footers and free throws, and took ill-advised three balls. DSR bailed them out of a game they had no right allowing to be competitive.