Who was your favorite role player and why?
What did you like about their personality?
Did they have a signature game where they dominated?
I always liked Zach McCall, or as Steve "the Homer" True called him, "Turbo". He would always come flying up the court like a bat out of hell. The serious intensity he brought always cracked me up and got me on the bandwagon.
(http://wiki.muscoop.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/men_s_basketball/mccall.jpg?cache=&w=185&h=262)
Give me Terry Reason. Loved his long-range jumper...and flowing jerri-curl 'do.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 09, 2014, 10:22:05 PM
Give me Terry Reason. Loved his long-range jumper...and flowing jerri-curl 'do.
Look at that Soul Glo' !!!
(http://wiki.muscoop.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/men_s_basketball/reason.terry.jpg?w=150)
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 09, 2014, 10:26:03 PM
Look at that Soul Glo' !!!
(http://wiki.muscoop.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/men_s_basketball/reason.terry.jpg?w=150)
It didn't start out as jher-curls as I recall. It was more of a roman-helmet-looking 'do.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 09, 2014, 10:22:05 PM
Give me Terry Reason. Loved his long-range jumper...and flowing jerri-curl 'do.
+1 zillion!!!
Whatever happened to him? I was in flight school in OK in the pre-internet days so news of MU was scarce since we were no longer winning. He came ion with great fanfare but then just disappeared. I recall he couldn't do anything with his left hand.
Frozena or GTFO
Quote from: NotBuzzWilliams on April 09, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
Frozena or GTFO
If you guys could.... post a picture, preferably one that is "different".
Quote from: NotBuzzWilliams on April 09, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
Frozena or GTFO
No. I'm sorry but Frozena when Lavin is out there? No debate - Mark Lavin put the on in walk.
Mark Lavin? Yes, please.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 09, 2014, 10:30:47 PM
If you guys could.... post a picture, preferably one that is "different".
How's this?
(http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/marq/graphics/auto/tipoff1.jpg)
Quote from: keefe on April 09, 2014, 10:28:15 PM
Whatever happened to him? I was in flight school in OK in the pre-internet days so news of MU was scarce since we were no longer winning. He came ion with great fanfare but then just disappeared. I recall he couldn't do anything with his left hand.
For starters Majerus threw him off the team in 1984
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19841108&id=PW8aAAAAIBAJ&sjid=JSoEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5739,8510497
Quote from: keefe on April 09, 2014, 10:28:15 PM
Whatever happened to him? I was in flight school in OK in the pre-internet days so news of MU was scarce since we were no longer winning. He came ion with great fanfare but then just disappeared. I recall he couldn't do anything with his left hand.
Reason wasn't really a role player - Majerus wanted him as the star of the team. He was a great shooter - I think in high school he was the 2nd all-time scorer in California history. He could do it in practice, but it never translated to games. Majerus never could figure out why.
Faisal Abraham. Didn't put up with any b.s. from some of those thug-like Cincy teams. He was a starter his senior year but mainly a great backup. Averaged like 5+ boards and 2+ blocks a game only averaging 15 minutes or so.
(http://images.blogcn.com/2006/8/22/5/clarkzq,20060822102632.jpg)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOusmane Barro.
Oluoma Nnamaka
Interesting question... Two guys that come to mind right away are Faisal Abraham and Oluoma Nnamaka. Loved Faisal's toughness and rebounding. Nnamaka might not have had a set role, but was a great "glue guy."
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 09, 2014, 10:37:53 PM
Faisal Abraham. Didn't put up with any b.s. from some of those thug-like Cincy teams. He was a starter his senior year but mainly a great backup. Averaged like 5+ boards and 2+ blocks a game only averaging 15 minutes or so.
(http://images.blogcn.com/2006/8/22/5/clarkzq,20060822102632.jpg)
He was a beast. Wasn't he the original "Sheriff" according to Homer? I saw him bouncing at a club in Milwaukee around 2002.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 09, 2014, 10:22:05 PM
Give me Terry Reason. Loved his long-range jumper...and flowing jerri-curl 'do.
+1
Quote from: NotBuzzWilliams on April 09, 2014, 10:34:13 PM
How's this?
(http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/marq/graphics/auto/tipoff1.jpg)
Effing Stellar !!!
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 09, 2014, 10:36:20 PM
For starters Majerus threw him off the team in 1984
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19841108&id=PW8aAAAAIBAJ&sjid=JSoEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5739,8510497
Majerus does not come out looking good in this article.
Niv berkowitz
+1 for Nnamaka. Was he really a role player though? He wasn't a star, that's for sure, but he was a glue guy as he did a lot of dirty work.
+10 for Faisal. I cringed when he went to the line, but grinned when the opposing post players couldn't get past the brick wall that was Abraham. Unfortunately linked to the phantom foul that led to VT beating MU for the NIT championship.
Joe Chapman and Rob Logterman. The dudes stepped up and hit big shots and put up points when you didn't expect them to. They were also pretty steady ballhandlers.
Clausen was a beast on the boards.
Good call on Joe Chapman! That FF run doesn't happen without his big threes against Holy Cross.
I actually always liked Dan Fitzgerald. Smart guy. Decent jumper. Worked hard. Chicos-style traditional. Also really liked David Cubillan. Joe Fulce.
Some notable role player performances.... Mike Kinsella jacking up three 3 pointers in one game and making ALL of them
Amoroso playing out of his mind and scoring 30 points and grabbing 12 boards to win us the Great Alaskan Shootout http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/112705aaa.html
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 09, 2014, 10:36:20 PM
For starters Majerus threw him off the team in 1984
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19841108&id=PW8aAAAAIBAJ&sjid=JSoEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5739,8510497
The Milwaukee Journal really had a good product in those days. Lots of details.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on April 09, 2014, 11:03:45 PM
I actually always liked Dan Fitzgerald. Smart guy. Decent jumper. Worked hard. Chicos-style traditional. Also really liked David Cubillan. Joe Fulce.
Some notable role player performances.... Mike Kinsella jacking up three 3 pointers in one game and making ALL of them
Amoroso playing out of his mind and scoring 30 points and grabbing 12 boards to win us the Great Alaskan Shootout http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/112705aaa.html
I was going to mention Fitz but I thought he was more than a role player.
Talk about a role player who may have contributed more to MU if he stuck around:
Odartey Blankson.
Another favorite of mine..... The Grimm Reaper
(http://mikeleebasketball.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Chris-Grimm-dunk-286x300.jpg)
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Quote from: newsdrms on April 09, 2014, 10:56:06 PM
Majerus does not come out looking good in this article.
Man, I just finished reading the article and the opinion piece. Those writers eviscerated Majerus for doing what Crean and Bert did routinely. The world has become a less civil place.
The FRESHMAN Steve Novak was a hell of a role player.
Quote from: atk13thst on April 09, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
The FRESHMAN Steve Novak was a hell of a role player.
Perhaps best role player ever in an MU uniform.
The late Gary Rosenberger.
Need a long-range jumper? Dial up Gary to loosen defenses.
Never started -- was behind Jimmy Boylan, Butch Lee and Lloyd Walton. But was a heck of a player. And he was graduated from MU too!
What exactly are we classifying as a role player? Numerous starters have appeared.
Quote from: TheBurrEffect on April 10, 2014, 01:23:47 AM
What exactly are we classifying as a role player? Numerous starters have appeared.
If a role player is defined as a non-starter, then isn't Devante Gardner about the most productive non-starter in MU history?
Will MU ever again have a non-starter as it's leading scorer?
Always liked Tony Reeder, a.k.a. Boardman Jr. Great energy and great rebounder.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 09, 2014, 10:58:08 PM
+1 for Nnamaka. Was he really a role player though? He wasn't a star, that's for sure, but he was a glue guy as he did a lot of dirty work.
+10 for Faisal. I cringed when he went to the line, but grinned when the opposing post players couldn't get past the brick wall that was Abraham. Unfortunately linked to the phantom foul that led to VT beating MU for the NIT championship.
Joe Chapman and Rob Logterman. The dudes stepped up and hit big shots and put up points when you didn't expect them to. They were also pretty steady ballhandlers.
Clausen was a beast on the boards.
Nnamaka played when the team really honked. We had no real stars. Poor defender but great name.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 09, 2014, 10:37:53 PM
Faisal Abraham. Didn't put up with any b.s. from some of those thug-like Cincy teams. He was a starter his senior year but mainly a great backup. Averaged like 5+ boards and 2+ blocks a game only averaging 15 minutes or so.
(http://images.blogcn.com/2006/8/22/5/clarkzq,20060822102632.jpg)
Was faisal the worst FT shooter ever, or was it Abel Joseph?
Wonder how their FT stats compare to Derricks'?
How about these blasts from the past:
Tom Copa; Vic Lazaretti; Dwayne Streeter; John Polonowski(maybe Wojo could hire him for the Polish connection); Dan Smolinski. Now that is a good smorgasbord of ethnic charm. Anybody remember an American Indian or Hispanic player to fill the menu?
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 10, 2014, 05:24:30 AM
If a role player is defined as a non-starter, then isn't Devante Gardner about the most productive non-starter in MU history?
Will MU ever again have a non-starter as it's leading scorer?
likely.
How about the guy from Ohio, think his last name was Harrison that lasted about a year? He had the hot sister, IIRC, worked for CBS with first name of Jayne?
Quote from: willie warrior on April 10, 2014, 08:32:31 AM
How about the guy from Ohio, think his last name was Harrison that lasted about a year? He had the hot sister, IIRC, worked for CBS with first name of Jayne?
You are thinking of Herb Harrison. His sister was Jayne Kennedy.
Quote from: TheBurrEffect on April 10, 2014, 01:23:47 AM
What exactly are we classifying as a role player? Numerous starters have appeared.
Starter is fine, just not a star.
For a Bulls analogy: Luc Longley or Ron Harper, but not Scottie Pippen or Michael Jordan
I have to agree with Rosenberger. R.I.P.
Quote from: MUfan12 on April 09, 2014, 11:01:00 PM
Good call on Joe Chapman! That FF run doesn't happen without his big threes against Holy Cross.
GI Joe! Loved him. Guy did whatever was asked and never complained. Hit some huge shots in his career, still balling in Japan right now.
The freshman Novak represented my classic definition of a role player: a guy who was on the team to perform one specific role that nobody else could provide. He asbolutely would be my No. 1 choice.
I also dug Cubillan when he had his confidence and health. Barro was very underrated. My junior year, Brian Nyenhuis became a surprisingly important contributor. Plenty of others, too, but Novak by a mile.
I'm also going to throw another of my all time favorites out there...Terry Sanders, the "Colonel" did all the little things nobody but a basketball junkie notices, solid, solid player. Then , I know he wasn't a role player but Kerry Trotter was the lone bright spot on some bad MU teams and I feel he single handedly kept MU from falling into oblivion during the dark ages.
Quote from: MU82 on April 10, 2014, 10:28:51 AM
The freshman Novak represented my classic definition of a role player: a guy who was on the team to perform one specific role that nobody else could provide. He asbolutely would be my No. 1 choice.
I also dug Cubillan when he had his confidence and health. Barro was very underrated. My junior year, Brian Nyenhuis became a surprisingly important contributor. Plenty of others, too, but Novak by a mile.
I loved Cubillan. He would get so fired up at times. A few years ago, I was listening to the Marquette game on the radio. It was against a non conference opponent, and I know that they sometimes have others doing the color commentary during the beginning of the season. George Thompson fills in once in awhile. But anyways, Cubillian was the fill in for the game. If you know Cubillian, his English isn't the greatest, so it was hilarious listening to him do analysis of a game with Homer.
Cubillan for doing the worm alone.
Quote from: drewm88 on April 09, 2014, 10:42:26 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOusmane Barro.
Yup
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 10, 2014, 01:11:23 AM
The late Gary Rosenberger.
Need a long-range jumper? Dial up Gary to loosen defenses.
Never started -- was behind Jimmy Boylan, Butch Lee and Lloyd Walton. But was a heck of a player. And he was graduated from MU too!
Rosey was the sixth man on those teams. Not really a role player as he was an integral part of the rotation and a serious scoring threat. Bill Neary was the role player then (even if he did start).
My two favs were Abraham and Chapman.
Jarrod Lovette
Ryan Amoroso (during the GAS tourney-roided up)
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 09, 2014, 10:19:29 PM
Who was your favorite role player and why?
What did you like about their personality?
Did they have a signature game where they dominated?
I always liked Zach McCall, or as Steve "the Homer" True called him, "Turbo". He would always come flying up the court like a bat out of hell. The serious intensity he brought always cracked me up and got me on the bandwagon.
(http://wiki.muscoop.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/men_s_basketball/mccall.jpg?cache=&w=185&h=262)
Didn't Zach get booted by the NCAA during testing one year...not sure if I have the right guy. Then we fast forward to the next year's NCAA tournament and we don't have the footspeed to stop God Shamgod from getting into the lane anywhere on the team and he drives without any resistance and sets up Austin Kroshere for 40 points...Not sure if this is right, but it would have been nice to have him on the team to guard God.
Quote from: Stone Cold on April 10, 2014, 11:35:23 AM
Jarrod Lovette
Ryan Amoroso (during the GAS tourney-roided up)
Ooooh, there he is !!!!! Stone Cold !!! He likes the Big Boys!!! Throw it down low and take it the hole big fella!!!!
(http://enquirer.com/bearcats/img/photos/1998/01/012398brannen_400x435.jpg)
the barbed wire tattoo in its hey day.
sh.t, is that Richard Shaw?
Quote from: Rudy on April 10, 2014, 11:37:02 AM
Didn't Zach get booted by the NCAA during testing one year...not sure if I have the right guy. Then we fast forward to the next year's NCAA tournament and we don't have the footspeed to stop God Shamgod from getting into the lane anywhere on the team and he drives without any resistance and sets up Austin Kroshere for 40 points...Not sure if this is right, but it would have been nice to have him on the team to guard God.
Zach was smoking too much puff puff at the time, so yes, I believe you are right, he was suspended for the tournament.
#23
Jon Harris was one of my favorites, along with Terry Sanders.
Mo Acker
Mandy Johnson
Mike Bargen
Seemed like he did a lot of the dirty work during his tenure.
Bonus feature.
http://www.butlergrizzlies.com/sports/mbkb/coaches/Mike_Bargen
Quote from: T-Bone on April 10, 2014, 01:20:26 PM
Mike Bargen
Seemed like he did a lot of the dirty work during his tenure.
Bonus feature.
http://www.butlergrizzlies.com/sports/mbkb/coaches/Mike_Bargen
Why no "Bargen to MU"
Joe Chapman
William Fitzgerald
http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/william_fitzgerald
Sam Worthen ... when bald was unique!
Post FF - Acker, Cubillan, and Trent Lockett
Jimmy butlers first year and Cubillan are two of my favorites post FF.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 09, 2014, 11:09:08 PM
Another favorite of mine..... The Grimm Reaper
(http://mikeleebasketball.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Chris-Grimm-dunk-286x300.jpg)
(http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1361481542/11-XXL-Large-SONS-OF-ANARCHY-BIKER-VEST-SOA-GRIM-REAPER-EMBROIDERED-BACK-OF-JACKET-PATCH.jpg_350x350.jpg)
Really? The king of the moving screen?
I would wager that if anyone kept a stat for moving screen fouls per minute played, Chris Grimm would be the all-time leader in NCAA history.
Quote from: MUSF on April 10, 2014, 02:02:55 PM
Really? The king of the moving screen?
I would wager that if anyone kept a stat for moving screen fouls per minute played, Chris Grimm would be the all-time leader in NCAA history.
And then factor in all those he got away with.
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 10, 2014, 01:31:58 PM
Sam Worthen ... when bald was unique!
I was a freshman and sophomore during Sam's two years at MU and loved watching him play.
He was not a role player, though. He quite arguably was the best player on both of those teams, and he ended up getting drafted and playing in the NBA.
Mike Bargen
Great team player who was a senior when Cordell Henry and the gang showed up.
#4---Benny Moore
Quote from: MU82 on April 10, 2014, 02:17:46 PM
I was a freshman and sophomore during Sam's two years at MU and loved watching him play.
He was not a role player, though. He quite arguably was the best player on both of those teams, and he ended up getting drafted and playing in the NBA.
That guy made passes that are still head shaking to this day. If he and O Lee would have played straight imagine how good MU could have been.
Quote from: keefe on April 10, 2014, 02:34:20 PM
That guy made passes that are still head shaking to this day. If he and O Lee would have played straight imagine how good MU could have been.
Correct saw them do some amazing stuff on the court. Sam Worthen coached the pro team in the city I live, but only lasted half a season.
It's gotta be Chappie...I remember him puking into a garbage can then coming back into some game and hitting like 5 threes.
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 09, 2014, 10:36:20 PM
For starters Majerus threw him off the team in 1984
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19841108&id=PW8aAAAAIBAJ&sjid=JSoEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5739,8510497
Scroll to the right of this link (paper) and check out the NBA notes....'rookie Michael Jordan scored 33 points in the 3rd quarter' as Bulls beat Knicks. Yowser.
Hugh "hatchet" Mc Mahon
Quote from: Fullodds on April 10, 2014, 03:24:02 PM
Scroll to the right of this link (paper) and check out the NBA notes....'rookie Michael Jordan scored 33 points in the 3rd quarter' as Bulls beat Knicks. Yowser.
33 in a quarter? Is that the most ever?
I took a look at the rest of the paper. It definitely gives you a nostalgic feel when you see what else is in there. Buick Skylarks on sale ... Bowling scores .....
Terry Reason was a favorite of mine. So was Vic Lazzaretti.
Joe Nethen was a crazy man on some bad teams...you never knew what might happen when he was on the floor.
Trend Blackledge. Led the nation in Sportscenter Top 10 plays per minutes played.
Quote from: PVMagic on April 10, 2014, 05:23:35 PM
Trend Blackledge. Led the nation in Sportscenter Top 10 plays per minutes played.
1 minute played : 1 highlight???
Quote from: mujivitz06 on April 10, 2014, 03:05:15 PM
It's gotta be Chappie...I remember him puking into a garbage can then coming back into some game and hitting like 5 threes.
Joe Chapman. I recall the vomit game was against SLU.
If there was ever any doubt about Crean his leaving Chapman behind in Milwaukee while he pranced around NYC with three freshmen resolved any possible lingering question. Chapman should have gone, not because he was a senior, but because he was a warrior. The Bronzed Beast's inability to comprehend such a simple yet profound precept of leadership is chilling.
Robert Hall and KJ- Kevin Johnson from the '80's.
Ron Curry from the '90's. He's kind of borderline if he was truly a role player. He started a lot of games, but was never a number 1, 2, or even 3 option. I'll never forget his game ending left handed dunk against Memphis State when Anfernee Hardaway was there, believe it was 1992 or 1993. I wore the VCR out rewinding that one. Forget which Memphis player he posterized, but that was nasty.
The 00's- Marcus Jackson- couldn't score, but a force on the boards, could block some shots, and even handled the ball against full-court pressure.
Don't think he's been mentioned, but I can't leave out Mark Anglavar. Good spot up shooter and a better defensive player than given credit for. Had his limitations, but a nice player and a nice guy too.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 10, 2014, 08:54:08 PM
Robert Hall and KJ- Kevin Johnson from the '80's.
Ron Curry from the '90's. He's kind of borderline if he was truly a role player. He started a lot of games, but was never a number 1, 2, or even 3 option. I'll never forget his game ending left handed dunk against Memphis State when Anfernee Hardaway was there, believe it was 1992 or 1993. I wore the VCR out rewinding that one. Forget which Memphis player he posterized, but that was nasty.
The 00's- Marcus Jackson- couldn't score, but a force on the boards, could block some shots, and even handled the ball against full-court pressure.
Worst post of the year. I hope you are not an MU fan and hope you are banned. Ron Curry was far from a role player.
Did you watch the games? Marcus Jackson played no "role"
Quote from: Knight Commission on April 10, 2014, 09:05:08 PM
Worst post of the year. I hope you are not an MU fan and hope you are banned. Ron Curry was far from a role player.
Did you watch the games? Marcus Jackson played no "role"
Ron Curry was the man!
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 09, 2014, 11:09:08 PM
Another favorite of mine..... The Grimm Reaper
Seriously?! A favorite for what reason, comic relief? He was horrid. He did do one thing extremely well, set illegal screens. He was masterful at it. I couldn't stand it when he entered a game. He got quite a bit of attention when he arrived, Crean's first Michigan recruit.
Any love of James "Manchild" Matthews here?
Quote from: Knight Commission on April 10, 2014, 09:05:08 PM
Worst post of the year. I hope you are not an MU fan and hope you are banned. Ron Curry was far from a role player.
Did you watch the games? Marcus Jackson played no "role"
Hope I'm banned for expressing opinions. Nice.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 10, 2014, 09:10:24 PM
Seriously?! A favorite for what reason, comic relief? He was horrid. He did do one thing extremely well, set illegal screens. He was masterful at it. I couldn't stand it when he entered a game. He got quite a bit of attention when he arrived, Crean's first Michigan recruit.
For the trained eye, he held his own on defense against bigger guys. He was a banger and played the defensive role of being a hog down low. Unappreciated, he had one of the best names ever for an MU player. You should respect him more because "the Reaper is always watching".
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 10, 2014, 09:13:44 PM
Hope I'm banned for expressing opinions. Nice.
You forget yourself! A man with so few posts can not have opinions. Guesses is more like it I should think. Yes, guesses. Watch yourself and your presumption, young man.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 10, 2014, 09:15:14 PM
For the trained eye, he held his own on defense against bigger guys. He was a banger and played the defensive role of being a hog down low. Unappreciated, he had one of the best names ever for an MU player. You should respect him more because "the Reaper is always watching".
Grimm was a player I don't think Deane would have liked even, but to each their own.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 10, 2014, 09:31:28 PM
Grimm was a player I don't think Deane would have liked even, but to each their own.
Well, if Grimm had been a female lawyer you wouldn't be saying that...
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 10, 2014, 09:31:28 PM
Grimm was a player I don't think Deane would have liked even, but to each their own.
Greg Clausen, Jarred Lovette, and Chris Grimm would have been the triple vanilla, Deane always dreamed of. Try busting through that frontline!!!
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 10, 2014, 09:46:16 PM
Greg Clausen, Jarred Lovette, and Chris Grimm would have been the triple vanilla, Deane always dreamed of. Try busting through that frontline!!!
With a Brian Barone and Bart Miller backcourt.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 10, 2014, 09:47:44 PM
With a Brian Barone and Bart Miller backcourt.
Bo Ryan would be jealous of all the "traditionals" on that squad.
?-(
Quote from: The Hutch on April 10, 2014, 10:12:09 PM
He was terrible, knew the first time I saw him play we made a mistake. He had no game whatsoever.
Worse than Berkowitz?
Quote from: keefe on April 10, 2014, 02:34:20 PM
That guy made passes that are still head shaking to this day. If he and O Lee would have played straight imagine how good MU could have been.
They were gay? Way ahead of their time!
Quote from: MU82 on April 10, 2014, 10:16:56 PM
They were gay? Way ahead of their time!
Keep shooting that Rainbow J !!!
4ever
23 was quite a nice role player.
Quote from: keefe on April 10, 2014, 06:28:43 PM
Joe Chapman. I recall the vomit game was against SLU.
If there was ever any doubt about Crean his leaving Chapman behind in Milwaukee while he pranced around NYC with three freshmen resolved any possible lingering question. Chapman should have gone, not because he was a senior, but because he was a warrior. The Bronzed Beast's inability to comprehend such a simple yet profound precept of leadership is chilling.
That was unforgivable and completely shameful. He also blasted Chapman in the Journal before the season, IMO as a way of justifying not starting him.
"Thanks for 4 years of effort, Joe! Now here's a massive dump I'd like you to eat!"
Did Joe get a pair of IU shorts in the mail? Or was it only the guy who can do something for the prick?
This one is easy; Its Joe Chapman!!
Guy was always great at drawing a charge, good defender, could hit the three. Without Chapman against Mizzou and HC their is no final 4 run!!
Going to give my 2nd vote to Ousmane Barro who used the "Alley" like no other player.
Quote from: Fullodds on April 10, 2014, 03:24:02 PM
Scroll to the right of this link (paper) and check out the NBA notes....'rookie Michael Jordan scored 33 points in the 3rd quarter' as Bulls beat Knicks. Yowser.
How bout those Ashland Oredockers taking down Grafton with nobody over 200lbs!!
Was Wolf the big recruit we lost at the end of the article?
For us oldsters Hugh "The Enforcer" McMahon. He was one of Al's favorite's. He was generally a 6th man but his role was to hard foul the opponent's best player. He may have been on the 1970 NIT Championship team with the Dream. A reprise of this role went to Bill Neary who actually started for the 1977 NCAA Champs. He'd sometimes get into fights resulting in being thrown out along with the opponent's best player, a distinct advantage for MU since Neary rarely took a shot. I actually think Al was this kind of player at St. Johns and with the Knicks.
These two must be MU leaders in "the most games fouled out of" category.
Ousmane was great! Had many of my frosh/soph classes with him. Nice kid. One of those "never played basketball before he was 17" players. It was cool watching him (and the team) grow from his frosh year (04-05) CUSA team that was not the greatest to the his senior team in the BigEast, ranked nationally and on the verge of a perenial tournament team.
Quote from: DoggyDaddy on April 11, 2014, 12:03:46 PM
For us oldsters Hugh "The Enforcer" McMahon. He was one of Al's favorite's. He was generally a 6th man but his role was to hard foul the opponent's best player. He may have been on the 1970 NIT Championship team with the Dream. A reprise of this role went to Bill Neary who actually started for the 1977 NCAA Champs. He'd sometimes get into fights resulting in being thrown out along with the opponent's best player, a distinct advantage for MU since Neary rarely took a shot. I actually think Al was this kind of player at St. Johns and with the Knicks.
These two must be MU leaders in "the most games fouled out of" category.
Yes he was on the 1970 NIT championship team. I can recall lots of McMahon's fouls, but I do not recall him ever scoring a basket. He must have - averaged around 10 points for the freshman team (when thee was such a thing).
Joe Chapman would like everyone to know he appreciates the love shown on this thread and that he's still ballin' professionally in Japan.