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Title: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: jesmu84 on April 03, 2014, 04:12:24 PM
https://twitter.com/timpearrelltd/status/451370205621805056

#VCU AD Ed McLaughlin says there are no changes to Shaka Smart's contract at Smart's request. Smart focused on enhancements 4 players/assts.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: brandx on April 03, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Well, I wanna hear from our "experts" here before I believe anything the VCU AD has to say.

They had the inside info on Shake being a d-bag and using MU for his own selfish benefit.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on April 03, 2014, 04:54:31 PM
Hope Shaka enjoys the A-10.  Because an invite from the Big East, or any of the other conferences sure aren't coming anytime soon.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 03, 2014, 04:58:48 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on April 03, 2014, 04:54:31 PM
Hope Shaka enjoys the A-10.  Because an invite from the Big East, or any of the other conferences sure aren't coming anytime soon.

do big east schools need to be private and/or jesuit?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on April 03, 2014, 05:12:12 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 03, 2014, 04:58:48 PM
do big east schools need to be private and/or jesuit?

Not necessarily, but they will not add any school that is looking to either expand their football program or create one.  VCU, being a public university, certainly has the capabilities and potential to consider it.  After all the mess between the basketball and football schools in the Old Big East, you can bet that the Catholic schools will not go on that ride again. 
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: mu-rara on May 12, 2014, 12:34:20 PM
Not sure I want to wade into this pool, but it is off season.  I am firmly on board with Wojo and look forward to great things, just thought this was interesting.

Talked to a friend this weekend.  He has connections and I've received good info in the past.

He told me that Shaka wanted to come but that Mrs. Shaka did not want to leave proximity to DC.

Discuss among yourselves.  Or not.

Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 12, 2014, 12:42:18 PM
Quote from: mu-rara on May 12, 2014, 12:34:20 PM
Not sure I want to wade into this pool, but it is off season.  I am firmly on board with Wojo and look forward to great things, just thought this was interesting.

Talked to a friend this weekend.  He has connections and I've received good info in the past.

He told me that Shaka wanted to come but that Mrs. Shaka did not want to leave proximity to DC.

Discuss among yourselves.  Or not.


This explanation seems quite plausible to me, it certainly fits how events unfolded.  Enhancements for players/assts are the kinds of things that he passed on when he didn't take the Marquette job.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 12, 2014, 12:44:02 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 12, 2014, 12:42:18 PM
This explanation seems quite plausible to me, it certainly fits how events unfolded. 

Agree that a wife's opinion matters a lot.

Thought ... Why didn't he discuss it with her before he started with the process?

Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: jesmu84 on May 12, 2014, 12:45:20 PM
Quote from: mu-rara on May 12, 2014, 12:34:20 PM
Not sure I want to wade into this pool, but it is off season.  I am firmly on board with Wojo and look forward to great things, just thought this was interesting.

Talked to a friend this weekend.  He has connections and I've received good info in the past.

He told me that Shaka wanted to come but that Mrs. Shaka did not want to leave proximity to DC.


Discuss among yourselves.  Or not.



I heard something very similar to this as well.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: MuMark on May 12, 2014, 12:45:50 PM
That is exactly what happened from what I have heard

Quote from: mu-rara on May 12, 2014, 12:34:20 PM
Not sure I want to wade into this pool, but it is off season.  I am firmly on board with Wojo and look forward to great things, just thought this was interesting.

Talked to a friend this weekend.  He has connections and I've received good info in the past.

He told me that Shaka wanted to come but that Mrs. Shaka did not want to leave proximity to DC.

Discuss among yourselves.  Or not.


Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 12, 2014, 12:46:52 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 12, 2014, 12:44:02 PM
Agree that a wife's opinion matters a lot.

Thought ... Why didn't he discuss it with her before he started with the process?


Maybe he started out investigating it to see if was even something he would want before bringing it up with her.  It looks like UVa., Maryland and Georgetown would have the inside track at eventually getting Shaka.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: MU82 on May 12, 2014, 12:48:08 PM
I heard that we cooled on him.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 12, 2014, 12:49:31 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 12, 2014, 12:48:08 PM
I heard that we cooled on him.

Must have been from brandx!
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GGGG on May 12, 2014, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 12, 2014, 12:44:02 PM
Agree that a wife's opinion matters a lot.

Thought ... Why didn't he discuss it with her before he started with the process?


I'm not sure if the wife objected because she is his wife...or because she is an attorney and his de facto agent.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 12, 2014, 12:52:55 PM
Quote from: mu-rara on May 12, 2014, 12:34:20 PM
Not sure I want to wade into this pool, but it is off season.  I am firmly on board with Wojo and look forward to great things, just thought this was interesting.

Talked to a friend this weekend.  He has connections and I've received good info in the past.

He told me that Shaka wanted to come but that Mrs. Shaka did not want to leave proximity to DC.

Discuss among yourselves.  Or not.



So Shaka said Done Deal, but Mrs. Smart said no deal.  Now it comes together....   ;)


I used to like Mrs. Smart

(http://www.classicmoviehub.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/barbara-feldon-get-smart.jpg)
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 12, 2014, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 12, 2014, 12:52:55 PM
So Shaka said Done Deal, but Mrs. Smart said no deal.  Now it comes together....   ;)


I used to like Mrs. Smart


Who could not like a woman who sticks by her man even though he talks to his shoe?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 12, 2014, 01:06:14 PM
Quote from: mu-rara on May 12, 2014, 12:34:20 PM
Not sure I want to wade into this pool, but it is off season.  I am firmly on board with Wojo and look forward to great things, just thought this was interesting.

Talked to a friend this weekend.  He has connections and I've received good info in the past.

He told me that Shaka wanted to come but that Mrs. Shaka did not want to leave proximity to DC.

Discuss among yourselves.  Or not.

The above statement is true.

It is not why Shaka did not take the job.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 12, 2014, 01:06:42 PM
Man, ya can always get another wife, but a job like MU's is hard to come by, aina?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 12, 2014, 01:15:06 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 12, 2014, 01:06:14 PM
The above statement is true.

It is not why Shaka did not take the job.

I'll admit to having trouble jibing what you said with the "Shaka wanted to come" part of the statement that you are agreeing with.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GGGG on May 12, 2014, 01:18:46 PM
realchili83 said it better
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: real chili 83 on May 12, 2014, 01:22:09 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 12, 2014, 01:06:14 PM
The above statement is true.

It is not why Shaka did not take the job.

It's kinda true. 

Shaka said yes, but when she tried to alter the offer after it was initially accepted by Shaka, MU backed out.

I give Cords credit.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GGGG on May 12, 2014, 01:23:57 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on May 12, 2014, 01:22:09 PM
It's kinda true. 

Shaka said yes, but when she tried to alter the offer after it was initially accepted by Shaka, MU backed out.

I give Cords credit.


Give that man a cookie.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: reinko on May 12, 2014, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on May 12, 2014, 01:22:09 PM
It's kinda true. 

Shaka said yes, but when she tried to alter the offer after it was initially accepted by Shaka, MU backed out.

I give Cords credit.

How about a weeeee bit more.  Any inkling on how she altered the offer?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: The Lens on May 12, 2014, 01:27:43 PM
Mike Lovell's comments basically spell out that Shaka teased us.

"I had communications with Shaka," incoming Marquette President Mike Lovell said Tuesday. "I can tell you he seems to be a pretty good guy. He's going to stay at VCU for a while and I'm not sure what he's ultimately looking for, but I think he's got something very selective in his mind."

Read more from Journal Sentinel: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/steve-wojciechowski-brings-the-duke-pedigree-to-marquette-b99238048z1-253485281.html#ixzz31WkYPh00
Follow us: @JournalSentinel on Twitter

I think the bolded / underlined parts tell the story.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 12, 2014, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: The Lens on May 12, 2014, 01:27:43 PM
Mike Lovell's comments basically spell out that Shaka teased us.

"I had communications with Shaka," incoming Marquette President Mike Lovell said Tuesday. "I can tell you he seems to be a pretty good guy. He's going to stay at VCU for a while and I'm not sure what he's ultimately looking for, but I think he's got something very selective in his mind."

Read more from Journal Sentinel: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/steve-wojciechowski-brings-the-duke-pedigree-to-marquette-b99238048z1-253485281.html#ixzz31WkYPh00
Follow us: @JournalSentinel on Twitter

I think the bolded / underlined parts tell the story.

"Shaka teased us"

To what end?  Why did he bother?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: keefe on May 12, 2014, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 12, 2014, 01:40:40 PM
"Shaka teased us"

To what end?  Why did he bother?

He didn't tease us. The guy accepted on that Monday. Both Goose and I noted here that his wife had issues with leaving her stuff behind.

If Smart isn't savvy enough to say to Cords, "let me run this by CinC House before I say yes" then he's not the right man to run our beloved basketball program.

I am thrilled with Wojo and expect we will all be very pleased with his hire.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: ATWizJr on May 12, 2014, 02:02:10 PM
Quote from: keefe on May 12, 2014, 01:52:16 PM
He didn't tease us. The guy accepted on that Monday. Both Goose and I noted here that his wife had issues with leaving her stuff behind.

If Smart isn't savvy enough to say to Cords, "let me run this by CinC House before I say yes" then he's not the right man to run our beloved basketball program.

I am thrilled with Wojo and expect we will all be very pleased with his hire.
Crash, growing on you, is he?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 12, 2014, 02:02:21 PM
Quote from: keefe on May 12, 2014, 01:52:16 PM
He didn't tease us. The guy accepted on that Monday. Both Goose and I noted here that his wife had issues with leaving her stuff behind.

If Smart isn't savvy enough to say to Cords, "let me run this by CinC House before I say yes" then he's not the right man to run our beloved basketball program.

I am thrilled with Wojo and expect we will all be very pleased with his hire.

No truth to this whatsoever.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GGGG on May 12, 2014, 02:05:15 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 12, 2014, 02:02:21 PM
No truth to this whatsoever.


Hmmmm....not too sure you are correct here.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: keefe on May 12, 2014, 02:06:22 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 03, 2014, 04:58:48 PM
do big east schools need to be private and/or jesuit?

I am from the Commonwealth of Virginia and attended a fine prep school in the NCR. Without checking the records I can say with complete authority that not one of my fellow classmates at Georgetown Prep considered matriculating at VCU. It is not that well regarded as a university. Even within the Commonwealth it is no better than the 6th best public university.

The point is - if the BE has a particular curriculum vitae in mind for membership then VCU's résumé  is significantly different than that of the current members. I am confident we won't see VCU in the Big East if CV is indeed a factor.

Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 12, 2014, 02:08:11 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on May 12, 2014, 02:05:15 PM

Hmmmm....not too sure you are correct here.

Accepting a job and agreeing to terms are two very different things.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: 🏀 on May 12, 2014, 02:10:10 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on May 12, 2014, 01:22:09 PM
It's kinda true.  

Shaka said yes, but when she tried to alter the offer after it was initially accepted by Shaka, MU backed out.

I give Cords credit.

(http://img.pandawhale.com/67677-oooh-thats-a-bingo-gif-g8U1.gif)
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GGGG on May 12, 2014, 02:11:50 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 12, 2014, 02:08:11 PM
Accepting a job and agreeing to terms are two very different things.


OK.  Then I will agree with this!
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 12, 2014, 02:15:32 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 12, 2014, 02:08:11 PM
Accepting a job and agreeing to terms are two very different things.

Could you please stop telling us what didn't happen and tell us what did? Thank you.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: keefe on May 12, 2014, 02:25:10 PM
Quote from: ATWizJr on May 12, 2014, 02:02:10 PM
Crash, growing on you, is he?

Tom,

Without a doubt. Consider me pleased.

In an offline conversation the Puerto Rican described Wojo as clean cut. After what we have seen over the past 15 years I find that approach to life refreshing.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on May 12, 2014, 02:30:24 PM
There was a gorgeous girl back in high school who didn't go out with me.
This thread is making me realize it was her dad that kept her from going out with me.  Of course!

Still, I've had a good run so far with my wife, so that bodes well for Wojo.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: brandx on May 12, 2014, 02:33:59 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 12, 2014, 12:49:31 PM
Must have been from brandx!

I said that when?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: keefe on May 12, 2014, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: brandx on May 12, 2014, 02:33:59 PM
I said that when?


Don't you dare try to deny it!
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Goose on May 12, 2014, 02:36:12 PM
TAMU

I politely disagree with you on the Shaka acceptance. I cannot say with any certainty why he is not here, but can say I trust the sources that said he accepted the job on that Monday. Really does not matter at this point and time to move on.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 12, 2014, 04:02:57 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 12, 2014, 02:15:32 PM
Could you please stop telling us what didn't happen and tell us what did? Thank you.

But this is so much more fun!

A job is not accepted until the ink dries. No one from Marquette physically met with Shaka until the Friday after #donedeal. Unless Shaka faxed in his acceptance (he didn't) than accepting the job never happened.

What many may have misinterpreted as "accepting the job" is that SS may have agreed to terms. He may have said that the offer Marquette put forth was good enough to convince him to come to Marquette. That doesn't mean he was going to take the job.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Litehouse on May 12, 2014, 04:15:51 PM
So what did Mrs. Smart try to change?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 12, 2014, 04:37:37 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 12, 2014, 04:02:57 PM
But this is so much more fun!

A job is not accepted until the ink dries. No one from Marquette physically met with Shaka until the Friday after #donedeal. Unless Shaka faxed in his acceptance (he didn't) than accepting the job never happened.

What many may have misinterpreted as "accepting the job" is that SS may have agreed to terms. He may have said that the offer Marquette put forth was good enough to convince him to come to Marquette. That doesn't mean he was going to take the job.

It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: keefe on May 12, 2014, 04:39:52 PM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 12, 2014, 04:37:37 PM
It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.

sexual relations
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Gato78 on May 12, 2014, 04:44:43 PM
She isn't a lawyer. Undergrad Harvard. Grad Medil School of Journalism. She is a writer.


http://www.richmond.com/arts-entertainment/article_fa76df9d-0816-55a6-b49c-abca2582bf2e.html

Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on May 12, 2014, 12:50:35 PM

I'm not sure if the wife objected because she is his wife...or because she is an attorney and his de facto agent.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 12, 2014, 04:53:34 PM
Quote from: Gato78 on May 12, 2014, 04:44:43 PM
She isn't a lawyer. Undergrad Harvard. Grad Medil School of Journalism. She is a writer.


http://www.richmond.com/arts-entertainment/article_fa76df9d-0816-55a6-b49c-abca2582bf2e.html


Maybe she stayed at a Holiday Inn Express the night before she vetoed the deal.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Freeport Warrior on May 12, 2014, 05:00:52 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 12, 2014, 02:08:11 PM
Accepting a job and agreeing to terms are two very different things.
Especially when the last "term" is dictating who your boss will be. It was over when Cords said he would be the interim AD for the next year. In the end, I'm glad MU said no. We moved up the prez hire announcement, we gave him everything he wanted including insane $$, he agreed in principal but we wouldn't let him hand-pick the AD. Oops I said it.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 12, 2014, 05:09:51 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on May 12, 2014, 05:00:52 PM
Especially when the last "term" is dictating who your boss will be. It was over when Cords said he would be the interim AD for the next year. In the end, I'm glad MU said no. We moved up the prez hire announcement, we gave him everything he wanted including insane $$, he agreed in principal but we wouldn't let him hand-pick the AD. Oops I said it.

Wow - if that's how it played out, I'm glad MU showed him door #3.

I'm more than happy with what I've seen from Wojo so far.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 12, 2014, 05:56:12 PM
Quote from: brandx on May 12, 2014, 02:33:59 PM
I said that when?


You didn't, MU82 beat you to it this time.

Has has been discussed, great minds (two minds in particular) think alike.



/I wonder if he noticed the teal in the original.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: willie warrior on May 12, 2014, 06:35:38 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 12, 2014, 12:44:02 PM
Agree that a wife's opinion matters a lot.

Thought ... Why didn't he discuss it with her before he started with the process?


because that is the way the prima donna rolls. Milk the pursuer and then shut it down. man has huge ego.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GGGG on May 12, 2014, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: Gato78 on May 12, 2014, 04:44:43 PM
She isn't a lawyer. Undergrad Harvard. Grad Medil School of Journalism. She is a writer.


http://www.richmond.com/arts-entertainment/article_fa76df9d-0816-55a6-b49c-abca2582bf2e.html



Oh.  Ha.  You are correct.  Thanks Gato.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: real chili 83 on May 12, 2014, 06:49:23 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on May 12, 2014, 05:00:52 PM
Especially when the last "term" is dictating who your boss will be. It was over when Cords said he would be the interim AD for the next year. In the end, I'm glad MU said no. We moved up the prez hire announcement, we gave him everything he wanted including insane $$, he agreed in principal but we wouldn't let him hand-pick the AD. Oops I said it.

This is my understanding too.

Again, great credit goes to Cords for walking away from Smart.

Goose, you were right all along about Smart.  You were also right about Buzz too.  I know I gigged you more than once about Buzz. My apologies.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: The Lens on May 12, 2014, 08:19:37 PM
Who was the AD he wanted?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: real chili 83 on May 12, 2014, 08:52:06 PM
Quote from: The Lens on May 12, 2014, 08:19:37 PM
Who was the AD he wanted?

Supposedly, she presented a list of acceptable candidates.  I do not know who was on the list.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: chapman on May 12, 2014, 09:12:33 PM
You should know you're very lost if you agree to select a boss for a candidate based on a list of acceptable names that the candidate's wife provided.  Thankfully, at a time when many were for "whatever it takes" to get a deal done, Cords was not so foolish.  MU's balls remain safely out of the grasp of Mrs. Smart.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: MUDPT on May 12, 2014, 09:32:48 PM
This story is crazy.  Does Mrs. Smart have any background in collegiate athletics to know who good AD candidates are?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: brandx on May 12, 2014, 09:37:17 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 12, 2014, 05:56:12 PM
You didn't, MU82 beat you to it this time.

Has has been discussed, great minds (two minds in particular) think alike.



/I wonder if he noticed the teal in the original.

I always think I'm smarter than the next guy being able to recognize when a post is sarcasm. But I'm just an idiot like everyone else ;D
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GGGG on May 12, 2014, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: MUDPT on May 12, 2014, 09:32:48 PM
This story is crazy.  Does Mrs. Smart have any background in collegiate athletics to know who good AD candidates are?


They just wanted a stable situation where they have a good indication of who their boss would be.  Can't necessarily blame them if they are in a good situation now.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: MU82 on May 12, 2014, 09:58:48 PM
Shaka Who? Oh, the guy who has made earlier and earlier NCAA tourney exits each of the last several years?

Well, we already have our coach.

Wojo's the man.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Freeport Warrior on May 12, 2014, 10:10:24 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on May 12, 2014, 08:52:06 PM
Supposedly, she presented a list of acceptable candidates.  I do not know who was on the list.
I thought that he wanted to name the exact AD and MU said "no," but they were open to "looking at a list." They supplied the list and then not long after Cords said he was interim and it was over. Even though many weeks have passed, I haven't heard from anyone with direct knowledge about the list. I was blown away that the whole AD thing didn't come out on this board until today because many on here were fully aware of it. Ganzer was a little premature on his #done deal, but it was pretty much done other than a few "incidentals." Who would have thought forcing the school to move up the prez announcement and hand picking the AD would be "incidentals"? But as I said back then, Shaka is an absolute control freak and super conservative dude -- every detail needs to be nailed down. No way he would have ever taken this job without an AD in place -- just not in his DNA. So without an AD in place, his solution was to hand-pick one he would be comfortable with -- which is back to the control issue. He doesn't get into situations where he doesn't have ultimate control. Now, my guess is that not long after he supplied the list, MU realized that they were looking desperate and handing over too much control, especially from a timetable perspective. While Strong & Co. loved Shaka, the prez and his advisors came to their senses and said enough is enough and moved in another direction.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: MUDPT on May 12, 2014, 10:22:21 PM
At the time, the Bullseye Brothers looked pretty crazy with their rants on Twitter.  Not so much now.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: wadesworld on May 12, 2014, 10:26:58 PM
Quote from: MUDPT on May 12, 2014, 10:22:21 PM
At the time, the Bullseye Brothers looked pretty crazy with their rants on Twitter.  Not so much now.

I don't do the whole Twatter thing.  What'd they have to say?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: keefe on May 12, 2014, 10:46:02 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on May 12, 2014, 10:26:58 PM
I don't do the whole Twatter thing.  What'd they have to say?

They were bad mouthing a guy named wadesworld
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: wadesworld on May 12, 2014, 11:10:52 PM
Quote from: keefe on May 12, 2014, 10:46:02 PM
They were bad mouthing a guy named wadesworld

I like 'em.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: keefe on May 12, 2014, 11:54:03 PM
Quote from: The Lens on May 12, 2014, 08:19:37 PM
Who was the AD he wanted?

A guy by the name of Larry Williams
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 13, 2014, 12:26:20 AM
There is some truth to the "SS selecting his own boss" story.

Only a couple grains of it though.

For one, I can almost guarantee that Cords will not be the AD by the time the basketball season starts. That combined with the fact that he was already "going to be the AD next year" before the coaching search means that it wasn't over because Cords was going to be the AD for a year.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: WarriorFan on May 13, 2014, 12:52:59 AM
Shaka knows the Indiana job will be open soon.  So he waits...

He handled the whole thing OK if this plays out...
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: jsglow on May 13, 2014, 08:35:06 AM
Quote from: keefe on May 12, 2014, 11:54:03 PM
A guy by the name of Larry Williams

I know you are being sarcastic keefe but if that had been the case (and Larry agreed) I believe it would have gotten done.

I had not heard any of this from my sources so its good to know and I believe Cords did the right thing.  I can imagine SS being satisfied with the Presidential selection and then wanting to know who his boss would be.  If he insisted on a particular individual or three, then that's giving him too much power and I applaud MU for stepping away.

Anyway, Wojo's the man.  We've got a great coach heading up our program.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: mujivitz06 on May 13, 2014, 10:18:44 AM
Quote from: MUDPT on May 12, 2014, 10:22:21 PM
At the time, the Bullseye Brothers looked pretty crazy with their rants on Twitter.  Not so much now.

Well for one he called Evan Daniels a f------ hillbilly I think
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 13, 2014, 10:21:13 AM
Quote from: mujivitz06 on May 13, 2014, 10:18:44 AM
Well for one he called Evan Daniels a f------ hillbilly I think


Sure he wasn't referrin' to Bumstead?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Freeport Warrior on May 13, 2014, 10:36:39 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 13, 2014, 12:26:20 AM
There is some truth to the "SS selecting his own boss" story.

Only a couple grains of it though.

For one, I can almost guarantee that Cords will not be the AD by the time the basketball season starts. That combined with the fact that he was already "going to be the AD next year" before the coaching search means that it wasn't over because Cords was going to be the AD for a year.
My point was that when they had the "no news" press conference to announce "Cords was going to be interim for the next year" -- that is when we knew the Shaka saga was over. That meant we were officially not going to proceed with the "you pick your own AD route."  Although I'm not overly impressed with our PR team, they would never have a press conference to announce Cords as interim for the next year, then have another conference within the week to backtrack and announce Shaka's selection. I would agree that Cords will not be the AD by the season.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: MUDPT on May 13, 2014, 12:30:28 PM
Quote from: mujivitz06 on May 13, 2014, 10:18:44 AM
Well for one he called Evan Daniels a f------ hillbilly I think

Good call.  If I remember correctly there was a tweet saying, the Shaka Smart backing out of Marquette was what was wrong with college athletics.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 13, 2014, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: MUDPT on May 13, 2014, 12:30:28 PM
Good call.  If I remember correctly there was a tweet saying, the Shaka Smart backing out of Marquette was what was wrong with college athletics.

That's my recollection as well.  I didn't quite understand it at the time, but it makes more sense now.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 13, 2014, 01:59:09 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on May 13, 2014, 10:36:39 AM
My point was that when they had the "no news" press conference to announce "Cords was going to be interim for the next year" -- that is when we knew the Shaka saga was over. That meant we were officially not going to proceed with the "you pick your own AD route."  Although I'm not overly impressed with our PR team, they would never have a press conference to announce Cords as interim for the next year, then have another conference within the week to backtrack and announce Shaka's selection. I would agree that Cords will not be the AD by the season.

Gotcha, apologies for the misinterpretation
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: MU82 on May 13, 2014, 10:19:30 PM
This is such old news.

We're wasting all this time on Shaka when we could be engaging in a fresh Derrick-or-Dawson debate!
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: The Lens on May 13, 2014, 11:06:42 PM
Why did Shaka get to 3rd base with a school that had no President and no AD if stability / certainty was so important to him?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: keefe on May 13, 2014, 11:45:02 PM
Quote from: The Lens on May 13, 2014, 11:06:42 PM
Why did Shaka get to 3rd base with a school that had no President and no AD if stability / certainty was so important to him?


It took her a while to finally say no
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 14, 2014, 12:42:11 AM
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Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 14, 2014, 12:44:31 AM
Quote from: The Lens on May 13, 2014, 11:06:42 PM
Why did Shaka get to 3rd base with a school that had no President and no AD if stability / certainty was so important to him?


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Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 14, 2014, 03:30:01 AM
Chicos, well done
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2014, 05:59:47 AM
Real

No problem. I have quite thick skin.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: GGGG on May 14, 2014, 07:41:53 AM
Quote from: The Lens on May 13, 2014, 11:06:42 PM
Why did Shaka get to 3rd base with a school that had no President and no AD if stability / certainty was so important to him?


Because he wanted to coach at Marquette.  It is a very good program.  If Buzz would have left with a permanent (and functional) president and athletic director in place, I have no doubt that the coaching search would have been a lot different.  But as it stands right now, I am thrilled with who we hired and have no regrets about the past.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 14, 2014, 01:32:40 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 13, 2014, 01:59:09 PM
Gotcha, apologies for the misinterpretation

Classy responses like this have a lot to do with the high esteem which you are accorded on this board. 
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2014, 07:21:12 AM
Nothing in this thread is a surprise to me.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: barfolomew on May 15, 2014, 01:17:27 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 15, 2014, 07:21:12 AM
Nothing in this thread is a surprise to me.

Really?
Because I didn't expect the second freak-out by that kitten.
The first one, yeah... but the second time, that lizard didn't even move.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 17, 2014, 07:25:31 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 14, 2014, 12:44:31 AM
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your answer is bouncing ball, flipping pu$$y?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 17, 2014, 07:26:38 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 13, 2014, 01:59:09 PM
Gotcha, apologies for the misinterpretation

TAMU, hows the biscuit selection down there on campus?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 17, 2014, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 17, 2014, 07:26:38 PM
TAMU, hows the biscuit selection down there on campus?

We have a saying down here in College Station

Aggieland, where the 8s are 4s and the 4s go to UT.

God Bless Texas.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: wadesworld on May 17, 2014, 10:37:17 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 17, 2014, 09:59:22 PM
We have a saying down here in College Station

Aggieland, where the 8s are 4s and the 4s go to UT.

God Bless Texas.

I don't know if the females in Austin in 2010 were UT girls or out of college or just in Austin for the summer, but the worst looking girl there was Milwaukee's 10.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: WarriorFan on May 17, 2014, 10:43:03 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on May 17, 2014, 10:37:17 PM
I don't know if the females in Austin in 2010 were UT girls or out of college or just in Austin for the summer, but the worst looking girl there was Milwaukee's 10.
Yes, but the Milwaukee girls can read, and write, and even speak in complete sentences.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: wadesworld on May 17, 2014, 10:44:30 PM
Quote from: WarriorFan on May 17, 2014, 10:43:03 PM
Yes, but the Milwaukee girls can read, and write, and even speak in complete sentences.

But can they make a good sandwich?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 17, 2014, 11:20:06 PM
Quote from: WarriorFan on May 17, 2014, 10:43:03 PM
Yes, but the Milwaukee girls can read, and write, and even speak in complete sentences.

Yes, so can Texans. They can also rope, slaughter, and barbecue their own meat, shoot a tin can at 50 paces, and put down a bottle of Jack with a smile.

Again, god bless Texas.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: wadesworld on May 17, 2014, 11:31:12 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 17, 2014, 11:20:06 PM
Yes, so can Texans. They can also rope, slaughter, and barbecue their own meat, shoot a tin can at 50 paces, and put down a bottle of Jack with a smile.

Again, god bless Texas.

I will ask of Texan women too, can they make a good sandwich?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 17, 2014, 11:59:51 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on May 17, 2014, 11:31:12 PM
I will ask of Texan women too, can they make a good sandwich?

Yes. Just don't tell them to make it for you.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: wadesworld on May 18, 2014, 12:43:55 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 17, 2014, 11:59:51 PM
Yes. Just don't tell them to make it for you.

That's a problem.  Unless they know without having to be told.  That's even better.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 18, 2014, 06:19:10 AM
Is this sandwich a sexual thing?
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: real chili 83 on May 18, 2014, 06:19:42 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 17, 2014, 09:59:22 PM
We have a saying down here in College Station

Aggieland, where the 8s are 4s and the 4s go to UT.

God Bless Texas.

I thought it was TU.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: real chili 83 on May 18, 2014, 06:20:56 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 18, 2014, 06:19:10 AM
Is this sandwich a sexual thing?

That's a samich.
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: keefe on May 18, 2014, 11:25:16 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 18, 2014, 06:19:10 AM
Is this sandwich a sexual thing?

It's the after action thing to eat while drinking a beer
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 18, 2014, 09:25:26 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on May 18, 2014, 06:19:42 AM
I thought it was TU.

Nah, UT-Austin
Title: Re: Results of MU-Shaka?
Post by: keefe on May 20, 2014, 10:57:44 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on May 18, 2014, 06:19:42 AM
I thought it was TU.

Tango Uniform

Broke Dick Messerschmitt

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