Please post any player and/or recruit reactions to the hiring of Wojo here
david d. dawson @dddawson1 13m
@steve_wojo CONGRATS ON BRINGIN WOJOS MOJO TO MARQUETTE
Quote from: Heavy Gear on April 01, 2014, 11:25:46 AM
david d. dawson @dddawson1 13m
@steve_wojo CONGRATS ON BRINGIN WOJOS MOJO TO MARQUETTE
If parents are happy that can only be a good sign.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on April 01, 2014, 11:25:46 AM
david d. dawson @dddawson1 13m
@steve_wojo CONGRATS ON BRINGIN WOJOS MOJO TO MARQUETTE
Ha - love it - thanks Mr. Dawson -
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on April 01, 2014, 11:26:20 AM
If parents are happy that can only be a good sign.
Hope all see it this way....the Dawson's are a great family...handled last season with a great deal of class, as I'm sure they were disappointed their son didn't get more playing time...yet by and large were very supportive of team, Derrick, etc.
The guy brings a pedigree. Can't imagine they won't want to meet with him at the very least.
Quote from: Ners on April 01, 2014, 11:27:39 AM
Hope all see it this way....the Dawson's are a great family...handled last season with a great deal of class, as I'm sure they were disappointed their son didn't get more playing time...yet by and large were very supportive of team, Derrick, etc.
Mr Dawson is great. The exact opposite of Mr. Maymon...
Apparently the other thread didn't count. http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=43498.0
https://twitter.com/MUHoops/lists/mubb-current
https://twitter.com/MUHoops/lists/mubb-future
https://twitter.com/MUHoops/lists/mubb-past
Quote from: Utile et Dulce on April 01, 2014, 11:32:18 AM
https://twitter.com/MUHoops/lists/mubb-current
Davante is still on Windows 98? Or is that Marquette policy? Explains why we hired WoJo - wanted a throwback kind of guy.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on April 01, 2014, 11:25:46 AM
david d. dawson @dddawson1 13m
@steve_wojo CONGRATS ON BRINGIN WOJOS MOJO TO MARQUETTE
Great to see. Looking forward to great things from John.
Jake Thomas
It is April Fools Day. So I'll 100% believe it tomorrow..#mubb
Apparently the Twitter ban does not apply to graduating seniors.
Quote from: atk13thst on April 01, 2014, 11:47:50 AM
Jake Thomas
It is April Fools Day. So I'll 100% believe it tomorrow..#mubb
Jake Thomas played every game like it was April Fool's Day
Quote from: Shack on April 01, 2014, 12:02:25 PM
Jake Thomas played every game like it was April Fool's Day
Not every game...every 5th or 6th game. Just enough for Buzz to let him play another 120 minutes to look for an open shot.
Quote from: Shack on April 01, 2014, 12:02:25 PM
Jake Thomas played every game like it was April Fool's Day
HAHAHA!
@ArmenSaryan: "@JakeThomasTwo3 honestly do you like the hire?"
@JakeThomasTwo3: "@ArmenSaryan yes of course"
Nolan D. Smith
Congrats to my guy @about to take Marquette to another level!!! #dukefamily #
9:49am - 1 Apr 14
I just hope that private plane Wojo just signed up for is headed to Georgia at some point in the next few hours
Quote from: 2012 Warrior on April 01, 2014, 12:21:38 PM
I just hope that private plane Wojo just signed up for is headed to Georgia at some point in the next few hours
Or on its way back now.
Quote from: 2012 Warrior on April 01, 2014, 12:21:38 PM
I just hope that private plane Wojo just signed up for is headed to Georgia at some point in the next few hours
Or maybe he stopped on his way from Durham to Milwaukee for the press conference....
Per Evan Daniels twitter
Steve Wojciechowski recruited Grayson Allen. Allen on Wojo news: "It's sad to see him leave the Duke program, but I'm happy for him."
Grayson Allen is a McDonalds All-American
Quote from: atk13thst on April 01, 2014, 12:41:26 PM
Per Evan Daniels twitter
Steve Wojciechowski recruited Grayson Allen. Allen on Wojo news: "It's sad to see him leave the Duke program, but I'm happy for him."
Grayson Allen is a McDonalds All-American
He put on quite a show last night
Quote from: rabid652 on April 01, 2014, 12:10:39 PM
Not every game...every 5th or 6th game. Just enough for Buzz to let him play another 120 minutes to look for an open shot.
The guy busted his ass for the program, and frankly, we would have been in deeper trouble this year had he not come back. The lack of respect or appreciation by some for what these guys put into the program is pretty disappointing at times.
Quote from: MUStudent on April 01, 2014, 12:17:25 PM
@ArmenSaryan: "@JakeThomasTwo3 honestly do you like the hire?"
@JakeThomasTwo3: "@ArmenSaryan yes of course"
Who care what Jake Thomas thinks?
Quote from: StillWarriors on April 01, 2014, 12:49:03 PM
The guy busted his ass for the program, and frankly, we would have been in deeper trouble this year had he not come back. The lack of respect or appreciation by some for what these guys put into the program is pretty disappointing at times.
Fair enough. We should put the past behind us and move on. New coach, new year, new team. I wish Jake the best.
Quote from: StillWarriors on April 01, 2014, 12:49:03 PM
The guy busted his ass for the program, and frankly, we would have been in deeper trouble this year had he not come back. The lack of respect or appreciation by some for what these guys put into the program is pretty disappointing at times.
99% of people bust their ass in college. I think we would have been better of playing JJJ. He was lucky Buzz is a moron, or he would have been a reserve like he should have been. He was a nice contributor this year but nothing more.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 01, 2014, 02:25:02 PM
99% of people bust their ass in college. I think we would have been better of playing JJJ. He was lucky Buzz is a moron, or he would have been a reserve like he should have been. He was a nice contributor this year but nothing more.
He doesn't deserve to be mocked for what he did.
Rabid652, appreciate the mature response.
Quote from: StillWarriors on April 01, 2014, 02:33:09 PM
He doesn't deserve to be mocked for what he did.
Rabid652, appreciate the mature response.
I didn't mock him...but who really cares what his opinion is on this hire? He won't b here anyway.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 01, 2014, 02:17:38 PM
Who care what Jake Thomas thinks?
I care. Quality kid who played his balls off.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 01, 2014, 02:45:49 PM
I care. Quality kid who played his balls off.
Put me in the care camp as well. He is likely very well connected to the team, knows the school, knows Buzz, etc. I would always be curious to hear what he thinks.
Yeah, bash on Jake for playing hard every time he was out there. Classy.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 01, 2014, 02:17:38 PM
Who care what Jake Thomas thinks?
People care more about what Jake Thomas thinks than what a random internet poster thinks.
MarquetteMBB @MarquetteMBB 2m
First thought that popped into Luke Fischer's head after hearing about @steve_wojo: "We got the right guy." #mubb #WeAreMarquette
Quote from: slack00 on April 01, 2014, 02:54:46 PM
MarquetteMBB @MarquetteMBB 2m
First thought that pupped into Luke Fischer's head after hearing about @steve_wojo: "We got the right guy." #mubb #WeAreMarquette
Phew. Add him to the list of those that are staying.
Jake did more than play hard. Guy hit some huge shots for us and was pretty much the only guy besides Mayo that would draw a defender to the perimeter. In any case, bashing a graduate after he is gone who transferred here as a walk on is pretty classless.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 01, 2014, 02:39:06 PM
I didn't mock him...but who really cares what his opinion is on this hire? He won't b here anyway.
Nice attitude. You're done playing, so we're done with you. I suspect you are a student, and if so, I suppose I can somewhat understand that sentiment I guess. As an alum, I like to think of myself and others as members of a Marquette family, or at least a community of sorts. As an offshoot of that, I believe it only strengthens the basketball program when members of that fraternity remain invested in the program and feel a part of it. I would hope that they do care about the program, and that they will be supportive of the guys wearing the jersey after them, and the university, rather than just leave it behind because they won't be here anyway. That's weak.
JaJuan will talk to his mom and coach Wojo before making a decision. My gut says he stays.
Quote from: frozena pizza on April 01, 2014, 02:58:25 PM
Jake did more than play hard. Guy hit some huge shots for us and was pretty much the only guy besides Mayo that would draw a defender to the perimeter. In any case, bashing a graduate after he is gone who transferred here as a walk on is pretty classless.
I can play hard for MU.
I may not do well for the team and help them win, but I still deserve criticism.
And Buzz does too, especially for not playing the talented frosh.
Quote from: tower912 on April 01, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
Yeah, bash on Jake for playing hard every time he was out there. Classy.
+1, You know you are wrong when Tower and I agree!
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 01, 2014, 03:00:30 PM
I can play hard for MU.
I may not do well for the team and help them win, but I still deserve criticism.
And Buzz does too, especially for not playing the talented frosh.
There's a difference between criticism and being demeaning. For an example of demeaning, see many of this boards comments on Derrick Wilson and Jake Thomas--particularly people like Buzz'sBS. It's totally uncalled for.
Per Darren Rovell, Dwyane Wade supports the hire:
darren rovell @darrenrovell 46s
Just spoke to @DwyaneWade on Marquette hiring Steve Wojciechowski. Fully supports it, says "it's a hire they can grow with."
If anyone deserves the criticism it's buzz for putting Jake out there. Not like Jake was just going to sit on the bench and be like "You know coach...you should just put the freshman in. I don't think my services are needed at this point in the game." When a coach puts you in the game you go out there and give it your all and that's what Jake did. Unfortunately he didn't produce at a high level but it wasn't his fault he was shoved into that position.
Regardless I hope these kids stay. A lot of them would fit well into a type of system that Wojo talked about, especially these younger guards. I would especially like to see Ahmed Hill stay. Any more word out of his camp?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 01, 2014, 02:45:49 PM
I care. Quality kid who played his balls off.
A kid with that much commitment ... i'd hire a kid like that in a hot second.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on April 01, 2014, 03:10:32 PM
Per Darren Rovell, Dwyane Wade supports the hire:
darren rovell @darrenrovell 46s
Just spoke to @DwyaneWade on Marquette hiring Steve Wojciechowski. Fully supports it, says "it's a hire they can grow with."
I really don't understand why we care about Dwyane Wade's opinion on who we hire as a coach. What is he supposed to say? I think it was an awful decision? I care about our current players and recruits! Everyone else is just background noise.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 01, 2014, 03:13:55 PM
I really don't understand why we care about Dwyane Wade's opinion on who we hire as a coach. What is he supposed to say? I think it was an awful decision? I care about our current players and recruits! Everyone else is just background noise.
He trashed Gold immediately and they got that fixed in a hot second
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 01, 2014, 03:13:55 PM
I really don't understand why we care about Dwyane Wade's opinion on who we hire as a coach. What is he supposed to say? I think it was an awful decision? I care about our current players and recruits! Everyone else is just background noise.
Yet, you think everybody should hear your opinion on who we hire as a coach. Makes sense.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 01, 2014, 03:13:55 PM
I really don't understand why we care about Dwyane Wade's opinion on who we hire as a coach. What is he supposed to say? I think it was an awful decision? I care about our current players and recruits! Everyone else is just background noise.
I care that Wade still cares. I want him to feel like a part of this program forever, and when he makes comments on our new hire, then that reinforces to me his vested interest in our program.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 01, 2014, 03:13:55 PM
I really don't understand why we care about Dwyane Wade's opinion on who we hire as a coach. What is he supposed to say? I think it was an awful decision? I care about our current players and recruits! Everyone else is just background noise.
It doesn't hurt to get positivity and support from others that still have strong connections with MU. Is it better if Wade said nothing at all? Don't think you need to waste your energy acting as if the only opinion's that matter are those directly involved with the team right now.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 01, 2014, 03:13:55 PM
I really don't understand why we care about Dwyane Wade's opinion on who we hire as a coach. What is he supposed to say? I think it was an awful decision? I care about our current players and recruits! Everyone else is just background noise.
Wade knows Wojo from Team USA basketball, so his opinion doesn't hurt.
Dwyane Wade is a household name amongst basketball fans; he is an NBA champ. He is the biggest stud to come out of MU in a very long time. Maybe ever (different argument for a different thread). Tons of young up and coming potential recruits love Wade and LeBron and the Heat and model their games after those guys. When LeBron or Wade talks, young bball players tend to listen. So when he comes out and verbally supports the MU program and keeps reminding young potential recruits where HE went to school........IT HELPS OUR PROGRAM!!!! HIS OPINION MATTERS!!!
Thank you Dwyane.
Looking forward to Wojo's Warriors.
Quote from: warriors1991 on April 01, 2014, 03:26:42 PM
Dwyane Wade is a household name amongst basketball fans; he is an NBA champ. He is the biggest stud to come out of MU in a very long time. Maybe ever (different argument for a different thread). Tons of young up and coming potential recruits love Wade and LeBron and the Heat and model their games after those guys. When LeBron or Wade talks, young bball players tend to listen. So when he comes out and verbally supports the MU program and keeps reminding young potential recruits where HE went to school........IT HELPS OUR PROGRAM!!!! HIS OPINION MATTERS!!!
Thank you Dwyane.
Looking forward to Wojo's Warriors.
Wojo is also the Assistant Coach for Team USA basketball. That is a huge deal.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 01, 2014, 03:13:55 PM
I really don't understand why we care about Dwyane Wade's opinion on who we hire as a coach. What is he supposed to say? I think it was an awful decision? I care about our current players and recruits! Everyone else is just background noise.
Bulls fan.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 01, 2014, 02:25:02 PM
99% of people bust their ass in college. I think we would have been better of playing JJJ. He was lucky Buzz is a moron, or he would have been a reserve like he should have been. He was a nice contributor this year but nothing more.
Buddy, you are clearly young if you think that people in college bust their ass.
College kids think a HARD day is 3 hours in class watching someone talk and then 4 hours of studying. And, no way 99% of college kids study for close to 20 hours a week. If they did, 99% of them would graduate in four years (i heard about one school where only 20% of their students are done in four). Don't get me wrong, i'm not judging; I maintained a 3.1 while being plowed half the time, barely studying throughout the semester, and then cramming for a week before finals.
An average day for me today is 6-8 hours a day on the phone (leading discussions and making important decisions), dealing with lists of action items that are generated on those calls and then having 40-70 emails to deal with after that. Believe me, some of my toughest weeks in college would be a breeze now.
It's nice to hear people from other schools are envious of this hire:
Dennis McCleary @dmacBC74 16m
What? How does Marquette get Wood from Duke and we're sniffing around the likes of St Bonaventure and central fla? #bcbasketball
Quote from: Heavy Gear on April 01, 2014, 04:03:10 PM
It's nice to hear people from other schools are envious of this hire:
Dennis McCleary @dmacBC74 16m
What? How does Marquette get Wood from Duke and we're sniffing around the likes of St Bonaventure and central fla? #bcbasketball
BC doesn't get why we would hire someone better than they could get? Uhhh... that's just dumb.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 01, 2014, 03:13:55 PM
I really don't understand why we care about Dwyane Wade's opinion on who we hire as a coach. What is he supposed to say? I think it was an awful decision? I care about our current players and recruits! Everyone else is just background noise.
I suspect most observers would value Wade's opinion as opposed to yours.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 01, 2014, 02:39:06 PM
I didn't mock him...but who really cares what his opinion is on this hire? He won't b here anyway.
What the hell are you talking about? He's a former player and forever part of the Marquette tradition. Of course his words are important.
Who the hell cares about your opinion?
Quote from: Ners on April 01, 2014, 11:27:39 AM
Hope all see it this way....the Dawson's are a great family...handled last season with a great deal of class, as I'm sure they were disappointed their son didn't get more playing time...yet by and large were very supportive of team, Derrick, etc.
Thanks we appreciate it!
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 7m
Interesting that Todd Mayo said Buzz Williams leaving was "a change that was needed." Wouldn't divulge further, but that's telling. #mubb
Wow.
Quote from: Nevada233 on April 01, 2014, 04:12:27 PM
Thanks we appreciate it!
Dawson was obviously raised by very good parents. I think John will leave a great legacy at MU - both basketball and otherwise.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 01, 2014, 04:18:37 PM
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 7m
Interesting that Todd Mayo said Buzz Williams leaving was "a change that was needed." Wouldn't divulge further, but that's telling. #mubb
Wow.
That's ballsy for a guy who had as much trouble as he did. Even if Todd felt that way maybe keep it in house.
Sounds like we were in for Hiroshima and Nagasaki if Buzz stayed.
Quote from: mugrad2006 on April 01, 2014, 04:20:37 PM
That's ballsy for a guy who had as much trouble as he did. Even if Todd felt that way maybe keep it in house.
Yep, time for Wojo to lock this kind of crap down. Family business should stay family business.
Buzz taking more arrows than Crean from former team - Chico's will be happy...
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on April 01, 2014, 04:20:52 PM
Sounds like we were in for Hiroshima and Nagasaki if Buzz stayed.
Think this sums it up best....and have a feeling Cords got a similar pulse on things...and thus how it all went down - perhaps not a fire, but encouraged to look elsewhere..
Think highly likely JJJ and Steve Taylor were transfer locks if Buzz stayed...Mayo...always a question mark there (not a transfer, but perhaps trying a career overseas).
Quote from: DaCoach on April 01, 2014, 04:10:58 PM
I suspect most observers would value Wade's opinion as opposed to yours.
Yup. Ask people to name 1 person who went to Marquette and 99% will say Dwyane Wade. Everything he says about Marquette matters, a lot. The other 1% will say Chris Farley or Matthews / Butler / Crowder etc.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 01, 2014, 04:22:13 PM
Yep, time for Wojo to lock this kind of crap down. Family business should stay family business.
Well, Cords at the beginning of the presser said the players could take questions. I would concur though that any comments after today would be unwelcome.
Makes you wonder if Vander would have stayed had this happened last year??
Quote from: LastWarrior on April 01, 2014, 04:40:07 PM
Makes you wonder if Vander would have stayed had this happened last year??
Na, Vander had been planning to leave since he started at Marquette.
Looks like Derrick's committed to staying:
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 1h
Derrick Wilson said he expects everyone on MU's current roster back next season. #mubb
And probably Todd, another expressing relief that the cancer is gone:
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 1h
Interesting that Todd Mayo said Buzz Williams leaving was "a change that was needed." Wouldn't divulge further, but that's telling. #mubb
Per PT:
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 11m
Heard again at today's presser that Marquette signee Satchel Pierce,, if released from his NLI, is likely headed to VT to play under Buzz.
Can MU put restrictions on where a player goes as a condition of being let out of their NLI?
Does Va. Tech even have any room? I know they lost one, but so far it sounds like Harris, Shayok, and Pierce all might try to go there. Not like that's ever been a problem for Brett.
Quote from: Litehouse on April 01, 2014, 05:42:51 PM
Can MU put restrictions on where a player goes as a condition of being let out of their NLI?
Does Va. Tech even have any room? I know they lost one, but so far it sounds like Harris, Shayok, and Pierce all might try to go there. Not like that's ever been a problem for Brett.
Treating high school kids like that makes me squirmy.
I can't blame them for having a relationship with a guy that they want to play for. Let them go if they want.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 01, 2014, 05:43:51 PM
Treating high school kids like that makes me squirmy.
I can't blame them for having a relationship with a guy that they want to play for. Let them go if they want.
Agree. If they want to go play for Brent, it should be fine.
If they're willing to go to Blacksburg, they must really love Brent.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 01, 2014, 05:43:51 PM
Treating high school kids like that makes me squirmy.
I can't blame them for having a relationship with a guy that they want to play for. Let them go if they want.
It's tough. I don't want to treat the kids like that, but I also don't want to have paid for Buzz to recruit them somewhere else.
I could probably be convinced otherwise, but I don't think I'd mind a rule where you get out of your NLI with the exception of following the HC to his new gig. That's a pretty minor "punishment" for the student...
Pierce would be crazy to go to VA Tech...at least at MU he'll get to play for a coach that developed big men. Shayok does not appear salvageable...he gone. Hill is the focal point. MU needs him.
Quote from: Utile et Dulce on April 01, 2014, 05:49:08 PM
It's tough. I don't want to treat the kids like that, but I also don't want to have paid for Buzz to recruit them somewhere else.
I could probably be convinced otherwise, but I don't think I'd mind a rule where you get out of your NLI with the exception of following the HC to his new gig. That's a pretty minor "punishment" for the student...
If the guy paid millions of dollars is allowed to go, then we shouldn't have restrictions for the kids that are just trying to play ball.
This is a larger argument that I'm pretty passionate about, so I'm going to try and bow out at this point :P
I'm OK with them going anywhere else. But I have a hard time letting them follow Buzz after MU paid an enormous amount of money in our recruiting budget for him to establish those relationships.
Frequently, it is about the coach and not the school. IMO, you can't force someone to stay who doesn't want to be here. Just like you can't force a coach who doesn't want to be here to come from somewhere else.
Quote from: muhoops1 on April 01, 2014, 05:49:46 PM
Pierce would be crazy to go to VA Tech...at least at MU he'll get to play for a coach that developed big men. Shayok does not appear salvageable...he gone. Hill is the focal point. MU needs him.
Maybe if we release Shayok and Pierce immediately, the 2 of them and Harris can take up 3 roster spots for Buzz and block out Hill.
Quote from: Litehouse on April 01, 2014, 05:52:11 PM
I'm OK with them going anywhere else. But I have a hard time letting them follow Buzz after MU paid an enormous amount of money in our recruiting budget for him to establish those relationships.
That only comes back to bite you in the future. Cut your losses and wish them good luck.
Quote from: Litehouse on April 01, 2014, 05:42:51 PM
Can MU put restrictions on where a player goes as a condition of being let out of their NLI?
Does Va. Tech even have any room? I know they lost one, but so far it sounds like Harris, Shayok, and Pierce all might try to go there. Not like that's ever been a problem for Brett.
I think they can. Harris didn't sign, so he can do as he chooses. Would not let Hill go without the restrictions - an absurd amount of our recruiting dollars spent taking chartered flights from MKE to Georgia 20 times to pay visits; VT should not get the benefit for nothing while we eat the cost. Can argue it's unfair to the player, but I think Hill will live. Should he be released, 30 high majors will call him within a day.
Would like to keep Cohen because that continues our reign over top WI prospects. Hill obviously is a focal point but Cohen, Du Wilson, Burton, Fisher, that gives me a better feeling about someone like Nick Noskowiak staying and someone like Stone or Ellenson committing.
Do the present player's comments weigh on the recruits decisions? Them saying they're staying seems like a good indicator of what MU's problem was last year.
Quote from: frozena pizza on April 01, 2014, 04:31:20 PM
Yup. Ask people to name 1 person who went to Marquette and 99% will say Dwyane Wade. Everything he says about Marquette matters, a lot. The other 1% will say Chris Farley or Matthews / Butler / Crowder etc.
If your sample is people from this board then those are the likely responses. Chris Farley was great but he was hardly Marquette's most distinguished alumnus from the arts. Pat O'Brien, Spencer Tracy, or Amy Madigan would be far better representatives. Wade may be the most likely response in some populations but the broader world would struggle with that association.
You can't put restrictions when releasing someone from a NLI. Only if they are under scholarship.
I think we lose 1/4 +Harris
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 01, 2014, 06:29:19 PM
You can't put restrictions when releasing someone from a NLI. Only if they are under scholarship.
I think we lose 1/4 +Harris
Hope we keep Cohen and Hill. The other two would not be big losses.
Quote from: brandx on April 01, 2014, 06:32:30 PM
Hope we keep Cohen and Hill. The other two would not be big losses.
Seeing that Fischer transferred in since Pierce signed, let the young man go play elsewhere if that's what he wants. We come out ahead in that trade.
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 2m
Du. Wilson said Cadougan talked to him about redshirting, and Cadougan admitted that if he could do it all over again, he would have.
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 11m
Some really good stuff on Duane Wilson, probably coming tomorrow. Kid can't wait to put a Marquette jersey on.
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 14m
Mayo, on Buzz: "It didn't seem like we liked each other, but he's one of the guys that I'll always talk to the rest of my life." #mubb
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 21m
#BANE: "I never planned on leaving. I was going to stick it out. I committed to Marquette. There was no chance of me leaving at all."
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 01, 2014, 06:42:24 PM
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 21m
#BANE: "I never planned on leaving. I was going to stick it out. I committed to Marquette. There was no chance of me leaving at all."
I like that kid. Actually, I am starting to like a lot of our guys more and more.
I'm loving the "character revealed" in our players (Warriors!) but not our ex-coach (slippery).
Wojo = Coach K disciple
Buzz = Billy Gillespie disciple
#caseclosed
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 01, 2014, 06:42:24 PM
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 21m
#BANE: "I never planned on leaving. I was going to stick it out. I committed to Marquette. There was no chance of me leaving at all."
(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/social_assets/cbb/12_28_13/samford%20dunk.gif)
Put 'em in a body bag!! LOVE this kid!
Quote from: brandx on April 01, 2014, 06:32:30 PM
Hope we keep Cohen and Hill. The other two would not be big losses.
I cleaned up your comment. My eyes hurt after watching a streamed game of satchel pierce. And it wasn't the stream feed that caused the problem...
@mikebroeker: @DwyaneWade says "I think it's great hire." Got same via text from '03 FF teammates @stevenovak16, Rob Jackson & MVP Jared Sichting. #mubb
Quote from: PunchingPiper on April 01, 2014, 05:59:44 PM
Would like to keep Cohen because that continues our reign over top WI prospects. Hill obviously is a focal point but Cohen, Du Wilson, Burton, Fisher, that gives me a better feeling about someone like Nick Noskowiak staying and someone like Stone or Ellenson committing.
don't even think Ellenson is considering us any longer
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 01, 2014, 04:18:37 PM
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 7m
Interesting that Todd Mayo said Buzz Williams leaving was "a change that was needed." Wouldn't divulge further, but that's telling. #mubb
Wow.
Yes, because Todd is a poster boy for doing things the right way. Love the guy - immensely immensely talented - but I might have sat on that one.
Another note, if Pierce wants to go cap his career at VT, who are we to say no?
Quote from: Not Chris Otule's Coach on April 01, 2014, 09:53:25 PM
Yes, because Todd is a poster boy for doing things the right way. Love the guy - immensely immensely talented - but I might have sat on that one.
Think Todd is actually pretty intuitive...has a good feel for things...his comments on Jamil earlier this season about Jamil just needing to worry about going/balling all out, instead of worrying about where everybody should be on the court, etc. - I felt were enlightening, and well thought out.
In the case of Buzz - Todd also said that it may have seemed we didn't like each other, but he's a guy I'll always talk to the rest of my life. Having said that, making the statement Buzz leaving was "a change that was needed," seems right on - given some of the comments of the existing players today. Buzz lost a lot of the guys on that team last year.
Better probably for both MU and Buzz that they parted ways now..
Quote from: Ners on April 01, 2014, 10:15:59 PM
Think Todd is actually pretty intuitive...has a good feel for things...his comments on Jamil earlier this season about Jamil just needing to worry about going/balling all out, instead of worrying about where everybody should be on the court, etc. - I felt were enlightening, and well thought out.
In the case of Buzz - Todd also said that it may have seemed we didn't like each other, but he's a guy I'll always talk to the rest of my life. Having said that, making the statement Buzz leaving was "a change that was needed," seems right on - given some of the comments of the existing players today. Buzz lost a lot of the guys on that team last year.
Better probably for both MU and Buzz that they parted ways now..
That's a fair point. I think Buzz deviated a little from what made him successful in the first place
You would think though that with all of the tweets the current players are posting that would be a giant red flag that points to Brent for next years class. So long as we keep Cohen and Hill I am perfectly fine with the losses of the other 3.
Quote from: brandx on April 01, 2014, 06:32:30 PM
Hope we keep Cohen and Hill. The other two would not be big losses.
THIS
Quote from: madtownwarrior on April 01, 2014, 04:22:35 PM
Buzz taking more arrows than Crean from former team - Chico's will be happy...
Honestly, not happy. I hate seeing MU coaches leave. I will, however, continue to be amazed at all the poutrage in how Crean left displayed by people here. I'm sorry, but Crean went to a blueblood, gave us 9 years, a Final Four, rebuilt the program, the Big East, cool uniforms, kids graduating, Al McGuire center, etc.
Vs Buzzard who leaves for the worst program in the ACC with 2 NCAA bids in 30 years, took less money, trashes the conference and tv partner on the way out, did several piss poor things in the last few years that put MU in some very bad light, etc, etc.
Honestly.....well...it just amazes me.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2014, 01:26:06 AM
Honestly, not happy. I hate seeing MU coaches leave. I will, however, continue to be amazed at all the poutrage in how Crean left displayed by people here. I'm sorry, but Crean went to a blueblood, gave us 9 years, a Final Four, rebuilt the program, the Big East, cool uniforms, kids graduating, Al McGuire center, etc.
Vs Buzzard who leaves for the worst program in the ACC with 2 NCAA bids in 30 years, took less money, trashes the conference and tv partner on the way out, did several piss poor things in the last few years that put MU in some very bad light, etc, etc.
Honestly.....well...it just amazes me.
I've got to agree. Crean may have burned some bridges with the way he allegedly left MU, but it's hard to blame him for making the decision and very hard to say he didn't do great things for MU while in the position.
I think Buzz also did some great things while head coach, but it seems to be a lot easier to point out his missteps along the way that may have soiled the MU image a bit.
Quote from: Not Chris Otule's Coach on April 01, 2014, 10:18:05 PM
That's a fair point. I think Buzz deviated a little from what made him successful in the first place
Haven't posted this yet, but it is something that bothered me most of this season...I still recall what Buzz said in his introductory press conference that really impressed me, that the Marquette Program would always be all about our players. I think that was true for a while, but this year in particular, I think he drifted away from that. Hard to quantify or point to specific examples, but it was how I felt most of the year. Now, hearing some of the things we've been hearing it sort of validates that feeling was justified.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2014, 01:26:06 AM
Honestly, not happy. I hate seeing MU coaches leave. I will, however, continue to be amazed at all the poutrage in how Crean left displayed by people here. I'm sorry, but Crean went to a blueblood, gave us 9 years, a Final Four, rebuilt the program, the Big East, cool uniforms, kids graduating, Al McGuire center, etc.
Vs Buzzard who leaves for the worst program in the ACC with 2 NCAA bids in 30 years, took less money, trashes the conference and tv partner on the way out, did several piss poor things in the last few years that put MU in some very bad light, etc, etc.
Honestly.....well...it just amazes me.
Hard to believe it happened this way. You are totally spot on.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2014, 01:26:06 AM
Honestly, not happy. I hate seeing MU coaches leave. I will, however, continue to be amazed at all the poutrage in how Crean left displayed by people here. I'm sorry, but Crean went to a blueblood, gave us 9 years, a Final Four, rebuilt the program, the Big East, cool uniforms, kids graduating, Al McGuire center, etc.
Vs Buzzard who leaves for the worst program in the ACC with 2 NCAA bids in 30 years, took less money, trashes the conference and tv partner on the way out, did several piss poor things in the last few years that put MU in some very bad light, etc, etc.
Honestly.....well...it just amazes me.
+1 in a series of deserved +1s
@NickNoskowiak
My family and I have decided what's best for me is to open my recruitment up and keep my options open...I am no longer comitted to Marquette
No suprise
Quote from: MUAlum99 on April 02, 2014, 09:18:56 AM
@NickNoskowiak
My family and I have decided what's best for me is to open my recruitment up and keep my options open...I am no longer comitted to Marquette
Damn. Im kinda surprised actually. He openly said MU was his dream school.
I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens, maybe Wojo can real him back in.
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on April 02, 2014, 09:21:23 AM
Damn. Im kinda surprised actually. He openly said MU was his dream school.
So did Cohen, and it took him all of a day to declare his NLI release after Buzz departure (even though he was mistaken on process).
Quote from: mugrad2006 on April 02, 2014, 09:23:37 AM
So did Cohen, and it took him all of a day to declare his NLI release after Buzz departure (even though he was mistaken on process).
Pretty sure Cohen will stick around.
Quote from: mugrad2006 on April 02, 2014, 09:23:37 AM
So did Cohen, and it took him all of a day to declare his NLI release after Buzz departure (even though he was mistaken on process).
Yup. I guess dreams die quickly.
Quote from: MUAlum99 on April 02, 2014, 09:18:56 AM
@NickNoskowiak
My family and I have decided what's best for me is to open my recruitment up and keep my options open...I am no longer comitted to Marquette
This was always inevitable since he isn't signed. Still a good shot at ending up here.
Agree, Fullodds...I'm not shocked.
I was never convinced he was coming - even if Buzz had stayed.
As for "dream school" - didn't Cohen basically say the same thing? And he wasted no time Tweeting out that he was gone after Buzzard left. And now SC's Twitter feed is full of him pimping himself out to UCLA and other schools. I'm convinced he's gone, too.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2014, 01:26:06 AM
Honestly, not happy. I hate seeing MU coaches leave. I will, however, continue to be amazed at all the poutrage in how Crean left displayed by people here. I'm sorry, but Crean went to a blueblood, gave us 9 years, a Final Four, rebuilt the program, the Big East, cool uniforms, kids graduating, Al McGuire center, etc.
Vs Buzzard who leaves for the worst program in the ACC with 2 NCAA bids in 30 years, took less money, trashes the conference and tv partner on the way out, did several piss poor things in the last few years that put MU in some very bad light, etc, etc.
Honestly.....well...it just amazes me.
+1 all excellent points
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2014, 01:26:06 AM
Honestly, not happy. I hate seeing MU coaches leave. I will, however, continue to be amazed at all the poutrage in how Crean left displayed by people here. I'm sorry, but Crean went to a blueblood, gave us 9 years, a Final Four, rebuilt the program, the Big East, cool uniforms, kids graduating, Al McGuire center, etc.
Vs Buzzard who leaves for the worst program in the ACC with 2 NCAA bids in 30 years, took less money, trashes the conference and tv partner on the way out, did several piss poor things in the last few years that put MU in some very bad light, etc, etc.
Honestly.....well...it just amazes me.
Didn't Crean recommend Buzz? You make a valid point though.
Quote from: Ners on April 01, 2014, 10:15:59 PM
Think Todd is actually pretty intuitive...has a good feel for things...his comments on Jamil earlier this season about Jamil just needing to worry about going/balling all out, instead of worrying about where everybody should be on the court, etc. - I felt were enlightening, and well thought out.
In the case of Buzz - Todd also said that it may have seemed we didn't like each other, but he's a guy I'll always talk to the rest of my life. Having said that, making the statement Buzz leaving was "a change that was needed," seems right on - given some of the comments of the existing players today. Buzz lost a lot of the guys on that team last year.
Better probably for both MU and Buzz that they parted ways now..
+1, well said.
Out of curiosity, do we have to let recruits out of their NLI's? Just wondering
Quote from: saucy1_23 on April 02, 2014, 01:21:08 PM
Out of curiosity, do we have to let recruits out of their NLI's? Just wondering
No, but if you don't you're going to pay for it later.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 02, 2014, 01:22:40 PM
No, but if you don't you're going to pay for it later.
Correct, force recruits to stay and hurt future recruiting.
Blast or screw Brent as he heads out the door and hurt the possibility of getting a quality coach.
It's all about managing your reputation.
Quote from: saucy1_23 on April 02, 2014, 01:21:08 PM
Out of curiosity, do we have to let recruits out of their NLI's? Just wondering
Not a good decision to hold them to their NLI. Why would you want someone who is basically being forced against his will to be here. Plus it will come back to bite us in recruiting. Best to let them go and move on, let Wojo get his own replacements.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2014, 01:26:06 AM
Honestly, not happy. I hate seeing MU coaches leave. I will, however, continue to be amazed at all the poutrage in how Crean left displayed by people here. I'm sorry, but Crean went to a blueblood, gave us 9 years, a Final Four, rebuilt the program, the Big East, cool uniforms, kids graduating, Al McGuire center, etc.
Vs Buzzard who leaves for the worst program in the ACC with 2 NCAA bids in 30 years, took less money, trashes the conference and tv partner on the way out, did several piss poor things in the last few years that put MU in some very bad light, etc, etc.
Honestly.....well...it just amazes me.
Very well said Chicos, couldn't agree more.
Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook 4m
Seymour coach Jon Murphy says new Marquette coach Steve Wojciechowski will meet in person with Sandy Cohen on Thursday. Decision to follow.
Quote from: AZWarrior on April 02, 2014, 10:38:38 PM
Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook 4m
Seymour coach Jon Murphy says new Marquette coach Steve Wojciechowski will meet in person with Sandy Cohen on Thursday. Decision to follow.
Hope Georgia is his next visit.