Player And Recruit Reaction To Wojo Hiring Thread

[Skatastrophy]

Can MU put restrictions on where a player goes as a condition of being let out of their NLI?

Does Va. Tech even have any room?  I know they lost one, but so far it sounds like Harris, Shayok, and Pierce all might try to go there.  Not like that's ever been a problem for Brett.

Treating high school kids like that makes me squirmy.

I can't blame them for having a relationship with a guy that they want to play for. Let them go if they want.

[Groin_pull]

Treating high school kids like that makes me squirmy.

I can't blame them for having a relationship with a guy that they want to play for. Let them go if they want.

Agree. If they want to go play for Brent, it should be fine.

If they're willing to go to Blacksburg, they must really love Brent.

[nathanziarek]

Treating high school kids like that makes me squirmy.

I can't blame them for having a relationship with a guy that they want to play for. Let them go if they want.

It's tough. I don't want to treat the kids like that, but I also don't want to have paid for Buzz to recruit them somewhere else.

I could probably be convinced otherwise, but I don't think I'd mind a rule where you get out of your NLI with the exception of following the HC to his new gig. That's a pretty minor "punishment" for the student...

[muhoops1]

Pierce would be crazy to go to VA Tech...at least at MU he'll get to play for a coach that developed big men.  Shayok does not appear salvageable...he gone.  Hill is the focal point.  MU needs him.

[Skatastrophy]

It's tough. I don't want to treat the kids like that, but I also don't want to have paid for Buzz to recruit them somewhere else.

I could probably be convinced otherwise, but I don't think I'd mind a rule where you get out of your NLI with the exception of following the HC to his new gig. That's a pretty minor "punishment" for the student...

If the guy paid millions of dollars is allowed to go, then we shouldn't have restrictions for the kids that are just trying to play ball.

This is a larger argument that I'm pretty passionate about, so I'm going to try and bow out at this point

[Litehouse]

I'm OK with them going anywhere else.  But I have a hard time letting them follow Buzz after MU paid an enormous amount of money in our recruiting budget for him to establish those relationships.

[tower912]

Frequently, it is about the coach and not the school.   IMO, you can't force someone to stay who doesn't want to be here.    Just like you can't force a coach who doesn't want to be here to come from somewhere else.   

[Litehouse]

Pierce would be crazy to go to VA Tech...at least at MU he'll get to play for a coach that developed big men.  Shayok does not appear salvageable...he gone.  Hill is the focal point.  MU needs him.

Maybe if we release Shayok and Pierce immediately, the 2 of them and Harris can take up 3 roster spots for Buzz and block out Hill.

[Silkk the Shaka]

I'm OK with them going anywhere else.  But I have a hard time letting them follow Buzz after MU paid an enormous amount of money in our recruiting budget for him to establish those relationships.

That only comes back to bite you in the future. Cut your losses and wish them good luck.

[chapman]

Can MU put restrictions on where a player goes as a condition of being let out of their NLI?

Does Va. Tech even have any room?  I know they lost one, but so far it sounds like Harris, Shayok, and Pierce all might try to go there.  Not like that's ever been a problem for Brett.

I think they can.  Harris didn't sign, so he can do as he chooses.  Would not let Hill go without the restrictions - an absurd amount of our recruiting dollars spent taking chartered flights from MKE to Georgia 20 times to pay visits; VT should not get the benefit for nothing while we eat the cost.  Can argue it's unfair to the player, but I think Hill will live.  Should he be released, 30 high majors will call him within a day.

[Galway Eagle]

Would like to keep Cohen because that continues our reign over top WI prospects.  Hill obviously is a focal point but Cohen, Du Wilson, Burton, Fisher, that gives me a better feeling about someone like Nick Noskowiak staying and someone like Stone or Ellenson committing.  

[T-Bone]

Do the present player's comments weigh on the recruits decisions?  Them saying they're staying seems like a good indicator of what MU's problem was last year.

[keefe]

Yup.  Ask people to name 1 person who went to Marquette and 99% will say Dwyane Wade.  Everything he says about Marquette matters, a lot.  The other 1% will say Chris Farley or Matthews / Butler / Crowder etc.

If your sample is people from this board then those are the likely responses. Chris Farley was great but he was hardly Marquette's most distinguished alumnus from the arts. Pat O'Brien, Spencer Tracy, or Amy Madigan would be far better representatives. Wade may be the most likely response in some populations but the broader world would struggle with that association.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

You can't put restrictions when releasing someone from a NLI. Only if they are under scholarship.

I think we lose 1/4 +Harris

[brandx]

You can't put restrictions when releasing someone from a NLI. Only if they are under scholarship.

I think we lose 1/4 +Harris

Hope we keep Cohen and Hill. The other two would not be big losses.

[Tums Festival]

Hope we keep Cohen and Hill. The other two would not be big losses.

Seeing that Fischer transferred in since Pierce signed, let the young man go play elsewhere if that's what he wants. We come out ahead in that trade.

[VegasWarrior77]

Paint Touches ‏@PaintTouches  2m
Du. Wilson said Cadougan talked to him about redshirting, and Cadougan admitted that if he could do it all over again, he would have.

Paint Touches ‏@PaintTouches  11m
Some really good stuff on Duane Wilson, probably coming tomorrow. Kid can't wait to put a Marquette jersey on.

Paint Touches ‏@PaintTouches  14m
Mayo, on Buzz: "It didn't seem like we liked each other, but he's one of the guys that I'll always talk to the rest of my life." #mubb

Paint Touches ‏@PaintTouches  21m
#BANE: "I never planned on leaving. I was going to stick it out. I committed to Marquette. There was no chance of me leaving at all."

[EnderWiggen]

Paint Touches ‏@PaintTouches  21m
#BANE: "I never planned on leaving. I was going to stick it out. I committed to Marquette. There was no chance of me leaving at all."

I like that kid.  Actually, I am starting to like a lot of our guys more and more.

[VegasWarrior77]

I'm loving the "character revealed" in our players (Warriors!) but not our ex-coach (slippery).

Wojo = Coach K disciple
Buzz = Billy Gillespie disciple
#caseclosed

[Eldon]

Paint Touches ‏@PaintTouches  21m
#BANE: "I never planned on leaving. I was going to stick it out. I committed to Marquette. There was no chance of me leaving at all."

Put 'em in a body bag!!  LOVE this kid!

[AirPunches]

Hope we keep Cohen and Hill. The other two would not be big losses.

I cleaned up your comment. My eyes hurt after watching a streamed game of satchel pierce. And it wasn't the stream feed that caused the problem...

[Avenue Commons]

@mikebroeker: @DwyaneWade says "I think it's great hire."  Got same via text from '03 FF teammates @stevenovak16, Rob Jackson & MVP Jared Sichting. #mubb

[Markusquette]

Would like to keep Cohen because that continues our reign over top WI prospects.  Hill obviously is a focal point but Cohen, Du Wilson, Burton, Fisher, that gives me a better feeling about someone like Nick Noskowiak staying and someone like Stone or Ellenson committing.  

don't even think Ellenson is considering us any longer

[GB Warrior]

Paint Touches ‏@PaintTouches 7m

Interesting that Todd Mayo said Buzz Williams leaving was "a change that was needed." Wouldn't divulge further, but that's telling. #mubb

Wow.

Yes, because Todd is a poster boy for doing things the right way. Love the guy - immensely immensely talented - but I might have sat on that one.

Another note, if Pierce wants to go cap his career at VT, who are we to say no?

[NersEllenson]

Yes, because Todd is a poster boy for doing things the right way. Love the guy - immensely immensely talented - but I might have sat on that one.

Think Todd is actually pretty intuitive...has a good feel for things...his comments on Jamil earlier this season about Jamil just needing to worry about going/balling all out, instead of worrying about where everybody should be on the court, etc. - I felt were enlightening, and well thought out.

In the case of Buzz - Todd also said that it may have seemed we didn't like each other, but he's a guy I'll always talk to the rest of my life.  Having said that, making the statement Buzz leaving was "a change that was needed," seems right on - given some of the comments of the existing players today.  Buzz lost a lot of the guys on that team last year.

Better probably for both MU and Buzz that they parted ways now..