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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on March 18, 2014, 08:43:18 AM

Title: Dayton
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2014, 08:43:18 AM
My sister, her husband, and many of their friends, whom I also socialize with at least once a year, are Flyer fans.   I have a spectacular number of e-mails from them this week.    And historically, they aren't even particularly obnoxious.    But Dayton is in and MU isn't, so.......     One of these friends is a marine biology professor at Coastal Carolina.   She is doubly enjoying it.    Of course, she allowed my family to crash at her house in Myrtle Beach last spring break, so I sort of have to take it with a gritted teeth smile. 
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Benny B on March 18, 2014, 08:49:03 AM
Do they all drive Chevy Cavaliers?
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 18, 2014, 08:49:47 AM
Dayton people are right up there with people named Greg.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: 🏀 on March 18, 2014, 08:49:53 AM
Tell them all to drink bleach while cruising in their '92 Cavaliers.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2014, 08:53:11 AM
Dayton people are right up there with people named Greg.

Oddly enough, my B-I-L is named Greg.   
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: LAMUfan on March 18, 2014, 09:01:07 AM
Perfect
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: mugoose on March 18, 2014, 09:01:58 AM
DePaul alum are like little siblings that cling on...always around. often annoying. never respected.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 18, 2014, 09:22:46 AM
You're still allowed to tell them ABD.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: BobWildLoyalist on March 18, 2014, 10:46:08 AM
My sister, her husband, and many of their friends, whom I also socialize with at least once a year, are Flyer fans.   I have a spectacular number of e-mails from them this week.    And historically, they aren't even particularly obnoxious.    But Dayton is in and MU isn't, so.......     One of these friends is a marine biology professor at Coastal Carolina.   She is doubly enjoying it.    Of course, she allowed my family to crash at her house in Myrtle Beach last spring break, so I sort of have to take it with a gritted teeth smile. 
No one cares. Sounds like a personal issue.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: buckchuckler on March 18, 2014, 10:59:22 AM
Well, maybe they can match their tournament wins since 1990 with a win over OSU.  Good luck to them. 
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 18, 2014, 11:35:31 AM
It's amazing how little respect Dayton gets by some of you. Dayton is in the tournament and Marquette didn't even make the tournament or even the NIT. For this year at least, Dayton shines much more brightly than Marquette.

This season was also critical for Dayton's resume for joining the new Big East.

Congrats to Dayton. I'm very impressed by them and the whole A10 this year.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2014, 11:37:57 AM
It's amazing how little respect Dayton gets by some of you. Dayton is in the tournament and Marquette didn't even make the tournament or even the NIT. For this year at least, Dayton shines much more brightly than Marquette.

This season was also critical for Dayton's resume for joining the new Big East.

Congrats to Dayton. I'm very impressed by them and the whole A10 this year.

Yup.  The A-10 played good ball this year.   If the Big East is looking to expand in a few years, and Dayton plays at the level they did this year, it will be difficult to keep them out.   
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: JWags85 on March 18, 2014, 11:46:43 AM
It's amazing how little respect Dayton gets by some of you. Dayton is in the tournament and Marquette didn't even make the tournament or even the NIT. For this year at least, Dayton shines much more brightly than Marquette.

This season was also critical for Dayton's resume for joining the new Big East.

Congrats to Dayton. I'm very impressed by them and the whole A10 this year.

Are you trolling? They've won 1 NCAA tourney game in the last 25 years, including getting bounced by a 13 in their best year when they were a 4 seed in 2003.  The A-10 had a good year for sure, but Dayton still finished 6th and the BE was a better conference by the metrics.  Congrats to them, but lets not get ridiculous.

Might as well invite GW or St Joes if we're talking resumes from the A-10 this season.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 18, 2014, 11:55:25 AM
Are you trolling? They've won 1 NCAA tourney game in the last 25 years, including getting bounced by a 13 in their best year when they were a 4 seed in 2003.  The A-10 had a good year for sure, but Dayton still finished 6th and the BE was a better conference by the metrics.  Congrats to them, but lets not get ridiculous.

Might as well invite GW or St Joes if we're talking resumes from the A-10 this season.

We should be careful with this kind of stuff, from 1978 to 2002 (24 years), Marquette won five NCAA tournament games.   If you pare it down to a 20 year period we won 3. 

Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on March 18, 2014, 11:57:48 AM
No one cares. Sounds like a personal issue.

This was the only post that made this thread worth the read. Otherwise I can't believe I wasted my time on this.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: JWags85 on March 18, 2014, 12:11:22 PM
We should be careful with this kind of stuff, from 1978 to 2002 (24 years), Marquette won five NCAA tournament games.   If you pare it down to a 20 year period we won 3. 

I understand, but its not like we're comparing recent success to a sleeping giant or a great program with a down period, Marquette's worst period as a program still eclipses that.  There were 10 appearances and 5 wins in that 24 year period compared to 6 and 1 for Dayton.  And they are an 11, not like they had a gang buster mid major year and gained a top 5 seed.

My point was there wasn't much need to be "surprised" at the lack of respect for Dayton, especially given their tone during the conference realignments.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: LAZER on March 18, 2014, 12:20:36 PM
I just looked at Dayton's tournament history...yikes.  I just assumed they've had more success than that.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 18, 2014, 01:34:53 PM
Are you trolling? They've won 1 NCAA tourney game in the last 25 years, including getting bounced by a 13 in their best year when they were a 4 seed in 2003.  The A-10 had a good year for sure, but Dayton still finished 6th and the BE was a better conference by the metrics.  Congrats to them, but lets not get ridiculous.

Might as well invite GW or St Joes if we're talking resumes from the A-10 this season.

I was referring solely to Dayton's success this year. It's going to be hilarious when they join the NBE. Some of you are going to lose your Shiite.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: frozena pizza on March 18, 2014, 02:12:52 PM
Good for them, enjoy it.  Last year Marquette made the elite 8 and Kentucky was in the NIT.  Doesn't make us a better program.

Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 18, 2014, 02:56:57 PM
I was referring solely to Dayton's success this year. It's going to be hilarious when they join the NBE. Some of you are going to lose your Shiite.

Agreed. I'd recommend everyone start preparing themselves. Not sure when, but chances are very likely it will happen.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Eldon on March 18, 2014, 03:02:45 PM
Agreed. I'd recommend everyone start preparing themselves. Not sure when, but chances are very likely it will happen.

I don't know.  Wouldn't X be vehemently opposed?  And if SLU has a lock on the 11th spot, I doubt Georgetown would be happy with Dayton, as they would be yet another Midwestern team [I recall rumors that they a) didn't like Creighton and b) were lobbying for Richmond for East/West balance]
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: wardle2wade on March 18, 2014, 03:03:49 PM
We should be careful with this kind of stuff, from 1978 to 2002 (24 years), Marquette won five NCAA tournament games.   If you pare it down to a 20 year period we won 3. 



Well if we're comparing dry spells, MU's 5 wins is still > Dayton's 1 win. 

And to do apples-to-apples here, this wuold assume MU would be upgrading leagues directly after that dry spell (2002)... that would be more comparable to the position which Dayton is in today.  If the Flyers push to a Final Four within 4 seasons, they'd then be in a similar spot to MU's jump to the Big East in 2006.

I'm not arguing for or against Dayton to join, but since the dry spells were brought up, let's use the same lens.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 18, 2014, 03:10:45 PM
I was referring solely to Dayton's success this year. It's going to be hilarious when they join the NBE. Some of you are going to lose your Shiite.

Marquette, Xavier, and Georgetown would never let this happen. Dayton adds nothing for us. There are almost a dozen other better candidates than Dayton.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: frozena pizza on March 18, 2014, 03:12:54 PM
Of all the things that would cause me to lose my shiite, the decision of whether to add Richmond or Dayton is not one of them.  However I might lose my shiite if we added 2 teams and one of them was not SLU.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: 🏀 on March 18, 2014, 03:14:17 PM
ABD
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Atticus on March 18, 2014, 03:18:55 PM
Im rooting for Dayton to join the conference. One thing about the current BE is that are absolutely no great rivalries. Even the original BE members dont have rivalries among them. Georgetown - SJU seems dead to me. Nova - SJU/GU seems dead to me. SHU? Providence? Nope.

St. Louis isnt going to offer anything in terms developing a healthy rivalry built on hatred. Just another neighbor invited to attend the block party.

Dayton and X have a very healthy rivalry. And it certainly seems like there is plenty of insecurity on this board concerning UD as well.  
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Tums Festival on March 18, 2014, 06:30:13 PM
We should be careful with this kind of stuff, from 1978 to 2002 (24 years), Marquette won five NCAA tournament games.   If you pare it down to a 20 year period we won 3. 



"We should be careful with this kind of stuff..." ???? Afraid someone's gonna get in trouble with the Fair & Balanced Police?
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: muwarrior97 on March 18, 2014, 06:40:55 PM
Dayton people are right up there with people named Greg.
The double G ones are even worse.....Gregg  ::)
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: chapman on March 18, 2014, 07:36:05 PM
ABD

/thread
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: MarquetteDano on March 20, 2014, 06:33:49 AM
One thing for sure is that the Big East MUST expand.  The sharing of revenues aside, we almost got only 3 bids this year, which would have been SEC like.  Not a good start to the conference.

Sure there could be years we could get six but with ten teams it is going to be unusual.  Going to at least twelve teams probably means get 4-7  bids each year which is closer to the big boys.

If expansion happens, like it or not, Dayton is going to be seriously considered.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 20, 2014, 09:27:39 AM
One thing for sure is that the Big East MUST expand.  The sharing of revenues aside, we almost got only 3 bids this year, which would have been SEC like.  Not a good start to the conference.

Sure there could be years we could get six but with ten teams it is going to be unusual.  Going to at least twelve teams probably means get 4-7  bids each year which is closer to the big boys.

The big boys know that we have less teams in the conference. They can do the math. The Big East's 4/10 (40%) is on par with B1G's 6/14 (42%), ACC's 5/15 (33%) or SEC's 3/14 (21%)

We did just fine
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: PE8983 on March 20, 2014, 10:38:21 AM
TAMU - I agree.  No need to add teams just for the sake of getting larger.  By these numbers, if the BE can add a team that normally makes the NCAA Tournament 30-40% of the time, then go for it.  Otherwise, leave well enough alone.  I don't see Dayton in that category - they are a perennial mid-major bball team, that makes the tourney once every 5-7 years.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Coleman on March 20, 2014, 10:42:08 AM
We need to poach 2  NCAA tournament caliber A-10 teams ASAP.

it is not good when they get 6 teams and we get 4, even if we have a smaller membership.

We need to be the conference getting 6, they should be getting 4.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: keefe on March 20, 2014, 10:48:54 AM
Some of you are going to lose your Shiite.

Mookie. My favorite Shiite.

(http://www.jihadwatch.org/Muqtada-al-Sadr.jpg)
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: keefe on March 20, 2014, 10:53:37 AM
that would cause me to lose my Shiite...I might lose my shiite


If you are having problems with losing your Shiite you may wish to consider moving to Tehran. They've really got their Shiite together


(http://alisina.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/army-of-hell.jpg)
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 20, 2014, 10:58:09 AM

If you are having problems with losing your Shiite you may wish to consider moving to Tehran. They've really got their Shiite together


(http://alisina.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/army-of-hell.jpg)

This photo was after an NCAA upset.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: keefe on March 20, 2014, 11:19:20 AM
This photo was after an NCAA upset.

Look what happens when the Shiite team didn't even make the NIT...

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(http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/323454/shiite-iraqi-men-covered-blood-take-part-ashura-procession-baghdad.jpg)


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(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1458763/thumbs/o-ASHURA-facebook.jpg)


(http://www.israellycool.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ashura7.jpg)
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Atticus on March 20, 2014, 11:24:31 AM
Dayotn is in a good spot.

At a minimum, Archie is a great recruiter. He proved that at Zona. He has an assistant by the name of Allen Griffin who was a high school all-american from nyc and played at Syracuse. Kevin Kuwik came to UD from OSU. Tom Ostrom was an assistant under Donovan and Pelphery. IMO, Archie has a great staff; he just needs to keep them together for a few years.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 20, 2014, 11:27:17 AM
SLU & Wichita St. please. Wish it could be UMass instead of one of those, but they caved to the dark side with football. Would have been a perfect geographical fit. Also wish it could be Gonzaga, but the geography makes absolutely NO sense.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: tower912 on March 20, 2014, 11:28:30 AM
Not going to be a state school.   Cross Wichita St and VCU off of your wish lists.   
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 20, 2014, 11:29:28 AM
Also, ABD.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Norm on March 20, 2014, 11:31:09 AM
St. Louis and Richmond are the most likely, although I'd swap out VCU for Richmond if State schools were being considered.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 20, 2014, 11:33:29 AM
Not going to be a state school.   Cross Wichita St and VCU off of your wish lists.   

Trust me, state schools are on the menu. If you are basketball only, you are on the list.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 20, 2014, 11:36:34 AM
Trust me, state schools are on the menu. If you are basketball only, you are on the list.

Can I get an amen!

I certainly hope this is the case.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 20, 2014, 11:39:23 AM
No one cares. Sounds like a personal issue.

I care.  Thanks for the post tower912.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 20, 2014, 11:43:39 AM
Are you trolling? They've won 1 NCAA tourney game in the last 25 years, including getting bounced by a 13 in their best year when they were a 4 seed in 2003.  The A-10 had a good year for sure, but Dayton still finished 6th and the BE was a better conference by the metrics.  Congrats to them, but lets not get ridiculous.

Might as well invite GW or St Joes if we're talking resumes from the A-10 this season.

Neither team has a prayer of getting a Big East invite.  Why?  Location, location, location.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: keefe on March 20, 2014, 11:45:06 AM
I have a lot of friends who are Georgetown grads and they say their decision-makers want east coast. I have no idea how that plays out but it seems GU places a high priority on location.  
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 20, 2014, 11:48:17 AM
Can I get an amen!

I certainly hope this is the case.

Amen!
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 20, 2014, 11:50:26 AM
Im rooting for Dayton to join the conference. One thing about the current BE is that are absolutely no great rivalries. Even the original BE members dont have rivalries among them. Georgetown - SJU seems dead to me. Nova - SJU/GU seems dead to me. SHU? Providence? Nope.

St. Louis isnt going to offer anything in terms developing a healthy rivalry built on hatred. Just another neighbor invited to attend the block party.

Dayton and X have a very healthy rivalry. And it certainly seems like there is plenty of insecurity on this board concerning UD as well.  

Speaking of dead rivalries, Marquette - DePaul, except maybe still on the DePaul end.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 20, 2014, 12:04:33 PM
I have a lot of friends who are Georgetown grads and they say their decision-makers want east coast. I have no idea how that plays out but it seems GU places a high priority on location.  

Which is one reason another Washington, DC school is right out.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Eldon on March 20, 2014, 12:08:58 PM
I have a lot of friends who are Georgetown grads and they say their decision-makers want east coast. I have no idea how that plays out but it seems GU places a high priority on location.  

I remember Gtown specifically wanting Richmond for the East-Midwest balance, evidenced by their alleged dismay that Creighton was taking the 10th spot.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: keefe on March 20, 2014, 12:11:54 PM
Dayton leads Ohio at halftime 33-30
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 20, 2014, 12:28:17 PM
Out of curiosity, besides VCU & Richmond are there other candidates to possibly consider that are located in the Northeast?  Candidates to consider only maybe because of city location, TV market size or some other besides Georgetown likes them reason?
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 20, 2014, 12:29:38 PM
Out of curiosity, besides VCU & Richmond are there other candidates to possibly consider that are located in the Northeast?  Candidates to consider only maybe because of city location, TV market size or some other besides Georgetown likes them reason?

IIRC, the dropoff after those two is steep, like Siena steep.

Richmond has a very good FCS level football program that would fit well with Georgetown, Villanova, and Butler.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: mileskishnish72 on March 20, 2014, 12:36:20 PM
Man, all the Dayton hatred on this board must be talking to themselves. Dayton has outscored what MU did in about 22 min.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: 🏀 on March 20, 2014, 12:38:13 PM
Man, all the Dayton hatred on this board must be talking to themselves. Dayton has outscored what MU did in about 22 min.

Don't care.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: chapman on March 20, 2014, 12:38:37 PM
Out of curiosity, besides VCU & Richmond are there other candidates to possibly consider that are located in the Northeast?  Candidates to consider only maybe because of city location, TV market size or some other besides Georgetown likes them reason?

Would love to further solidify our foothold in the northeast, especially seeing the importance of that during the tournament last week.  The biggest issue is we'd be talking St. Joe's (redundant) or BU (not good).  Rather have either over Dayton though.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 20, 2014, 12:41:02 PM
Would love to further solidify our foothold in the northeast, especially seeing the importance of that during the tournament last week.  The biggest issue is we'd be talking St. Joe's (redundant) or BU (not good).  Rather have either over Dayton though.

St. Joe's isn't just about redundancy.  It's about Villanova not wanting to let a local competitor get Big East level resources.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Norm on March 20, 2014, 12:45:03 PM
Out of curiosity, besides VCU & Richmond are there other candidates to possibly consider that are located in the Northeast?  Candidates to consider only maybe because of city location, TV market size or some other besides Georgetown likes them reason?
Maybe Dusquene, just for getting into the Pittsburgh area? Davidson down in North Carolina?
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Eldon on March 20, 2014, 12:46:45 PM
I really wish we could convince Fordham to put some of their resources into basketball.  Do they have FCS football?

Or if we could somehow convince Holy Cross or Detroit to re-commit to basketball

However, I don't see any of this happening, at least, not anytime soon.


I don't like Siena or LeMoyne because they don't bring anything in terms of TV markets, recruiting grounds, etc.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 20, 2014, 12:50:52 PM
Maybe Dusquene, just for getting into the Pittsburgh area? Davidson down in North Carolina?

Both are big also-rans in their markets.  Would Fox be willing to dilute the product?  Add either, and you're talking about the amount of TV money going to each school going in the wrong direction.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Atticus on March 20, 2014, 12:53:25 PM
Maybe Dusquene, just for getting into the Pittsburgh area? Davidson down in North Carolina?

If you can add the 5th most popular team in North Carolina, you do it!   ::)
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Tums Festival on March 20, 2014, 12:54:25 PM
I really wish we could convince Fordham to put some of their resources into basketball.  Do they have FCS football?

Or if we could somehow convince Holy Cross or Detroit to re-commit to basketball

However, I don't see any of this happening, at least, not anytime soon.


I don't like Siena or LeMoyne because they don't bring anything in terms of TV markets, recruiting grounds, etc.

Yes, Fordham has FCS football. I agree, if they would put resources into their hoops program they would be a very good candidate. All they would be now is a buddy for DePaul at the bottom of the standings.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: LAZER on March 20, 2014, 12:55:18 PM
I really wish we could convince Fordham to put some of their resources into basketball.  Do they have FCS football?

Or if we could somehow convince Holy Cross or Detroit to re-commit to basketball

However, I don't see any of this happening, at least, not anytime soon.


I don't like Siena or LeMoyne because they don't bring anything in terms of TV markets, recruiting grounds, etc.

Fordham just pumped a bunch of money and resources into their Basketball program in 2010.  While a turnaround wasn't going to happen overnight, I'd assume they aren't happy with their ROI thus far.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Eldon on March 20, 2014, 12:56:01 PM
If you can add the 5th most popular team in North Carolina, you do it!   ::)

I'm not sure how I feel about Davidson, but I would L-O-V-E if somehow the ACC broke-up and we could take Wake.

http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=16821

I also would be happy taking Notre Dame back for Basketball and the O sports

EDIT: Didn't realize ambiguity in link's address.  Link is Mac talking about the C7 scooping up Wake and the potential benefits from Wake's perspective
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 20, 2014, 12:58:15 PM
I really wish we could convince Fordham to put some of their resources into basketball.  Do they have FCS football?

Or if we could somehow convince Holy Cross or Detroit to re-commit to basketball

However, I don't see any of this happening, at least, not anytime soon.


I don't like Siena or LeMoyne because they don't bring anything in terms of TV markets, recruiting grounds, etc.

And LeMoyne is Division II.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Tums Festival on March 20, 2014, 01:07:51 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about Davidson, but I would L-O-V-E if somehow the ACC broke-up and we could take Wake.

http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=16821

I also would be happy taking Notre Dame back for Basketball and the O sports

EDIT: Didn't realize ambiguity in link's address.  Link is Mac talking about the C7 scooping up Wake and the potential benefits from Wake's perspective

Their football team had more wins (12) than their basketball team (10).
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 20, 2014, 01:17:58 PM
Their football team had more wins (12) than their basketball team (10).

Who are you talking about?  Those records don't fit Wake, ND, or Davidson.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Atticus on March 20, 2014, 01:20:36 PM
YEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   


UD! UD!
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: tower912 on March 20, 2014, 01:20:56 PM
Flyers over the Buckeyes.    Nice.   
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Tums Festival on March 20, 2014, 01:22:02 PM
Dayton 60-ohio 59.

Love that Aaron Craft missed the winning shot!
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: MU72491 on March 20, 2014, 01:23:13 PM
Keep talkin all you bitter MU haters hating on UD for no reason at all let's go FLYERS!!!!'n
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: mileskishnish72 on March 20, 2014, 01:24:08 PM
Chappie, not many in the Northeast would consider VCU or Richmond as bring in the Northeast.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on March 20, 2014, 01:24:28 PM
Dayton to the Big East!
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Tums Festival on March 20, 2014, 01:24:28 PM
Who are you talking about?  Those records don't fit Wake, ND, or Davidson.

Fordham...
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2014, 01:24:33 PM
I'm still in the running for the billion.  Go Dayton!!

Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 20, 2014, 01:25:36 PM
Dayton 60-tOSU 59.

Love that Aaron Craft missed the winning shot!

His man took him to the rim for the game winner too. Red faced jag off.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: UticaBusBarn on March 20, 2014, 01:26:52 PM
The Big East will need to grow to 12 teams - at least. This will all be driven by media market factors. St. Louis makes sense, and an east coast school makes sense. The problem is which east coast school.

Dayton, which has a great history going back to Tom Blackburn, has no chance because it is in the Cincinnati media market (Xavier), which is too bad given their history and fan support.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: tower912 on March 20, 2014, 01:28:17 PM
If Dayton has a solid few years leading up to the time the Big East is ready to expand, they are going to end up in.   
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 20, 2014, 01:29:03 PM
The Big East will need to grow to 12 teams - at least. This will all be driven by media market factors. St. Louis makes sense, and an east coast school makes sense. The problem is which east coast school.

Dayton, which has a great history going back to Tom Blackburn, has no chance because it is in the Cincinnati media market (Xavier), which is too bad given their history and fan support.

I'll beat CBB to the punch and point out that Dayton has its own media market, much smaller than Cincinnati.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 20, 2014, 01:29:36 PM
Why would 12 have to be a requirement? Grab SLU and call it a conference.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 20, 2014, 01:31:31 PM
Why would 12 have to be a requirement? Grab SLU and call it a conference.

Conferences prefer even numbers for scheduling and tournament purposes.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: wardle2wade on March 20, 2014, 01:32:07 PM
Why would 12 have to be a requirement? Grab SLU and call it a conference.

Not great for scheduling. Don't want to push past 18 conf games.

Great game, glad to see the Flyers win.  Can't stand OSU.  
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 20, 2014, 01:34:21 PM
Siena is in Albany which is 58th biggest TV market right after #57 Richmond, VA & before #64 Dayton, OH.

NYC has Fordham, Manhattan, Iona, Wagner, Hofstra (out in Long Island) & LIU-Brooklyn which as the distinction of being across the street from The Barclay's Center.  I agree that none stand out.
Fordham would have to play somewhere besides the Rose Hill Gym.  I remeber leaning against a wall coutside to watch them play Marquette sometime back in 1993-ish as there was no place to sit.

Boston U. has Boston going for it and losing to Illinois in the NIT last night.  
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Aughnanure on March 20, 2014, 01:39:35 PM
Conferences prefer even numbers for scheduling and tournament purposes.

Said the Big Ten for 21 years  ::)
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Benny B on March 20, 2014, 01:39:58 PM
For all this talk about Dayton being its own media market or not expanding the geographical footprint of the Big East, keep in mind one thing....

FOX SPORTS 1 is a NATIONAL sports channel.  Unlike the Big Ten Network or the Longhorn Network, FS1 has content that is going to play and be demanded everywhere in the country.  So as long as there's a relationship between the Big East and FS1, whether Dayton "adds" anything to the media market discussion is not all that relevant.  The entire country is already FS1's market, so they're not concerned about where the Big East has coverage, their concern is more with the Big East being able to provide quality programming.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Earl Tatum on March 20, 2014, 01:43:11 PM
Not for beating Ohio State. Hate them. I mentioned last year Dayton would be a good fit for our conference. For
once I was right.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 20, 2014, 01:45:55 PM
Y'all poked fun at UD. Weren't good enough or our conference, hey? Just jonesed the dudes who kicked our heines at the BC.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: nyg on March 20, 2014, 01:48:09 PM
There goes my Billion Dollars.......
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: tower912 on March 20, 2014, 01:48:45 PM
Mine, too.   
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 20, 2014, 01:49:23 PM
Y'all poked fun at UD. Weren't good enough or our conference, hey? Just jonesed the dudes who kicked our heines at the BC.

You sure youre a Marquette fan? When I go to the BC tonight will I see you there decked out in Badger red?
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 20, 2014, 01:58:07 PM
No one want to give credit to any other program. ND sucks, DePaul sucks, UW sucks, SLU sucks. JC, put a little balance in your life and learn to appreciate what it takes to be accomplished. Truth be told, we sucked major ass this season.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Norm on March 20, 2014, 01:58:36 PM
Y'all poked fun at UD. Weren't good enough or our conference, hey? Just jonesed the dudes who kicked our heines at the BC.
I think most of the hostility towards Dayton comes form some of the Flyer fans that came on this board last fall and dumped on MU and the NBE for being arrogant and so on, including the moderator of the main Flyers fan site.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Atticus on March 20, 2014, 02:09:05 PM
I think most of the hostility towards Dayton comes form some of the Flyer fans that came on this board last fall and dumped on MU and the NBE for being arrogant and so on, including the moderator of the main Flyers fan site.

And, of course, the message board fan base is such a terrific representation of the overall fan base...

There are some here that want Buzz on the hot seat... ::)
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 20, 2014, 02:12:17 PM
Don't care, ABD.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 20, 2014, 02:13:56 PM
I was rooting for Dayton the whole game. I always side with the fellow Catholic school.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: buckchuckler on March 20, 2014, 02:18:52 PM
I was rooting for Dayton the whole game. I always side with the fellow Catholic school.

Me too, especially against a giant state school.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: LAMUfan on March 20, 2014, 02:42:32 PM
Maybe we should add Harvard
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 20, 2014, 02:43:41 PM
I was rooting for Dayton the whole game. I always side with the fellow Catholic school.

No doubt!!!
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: real chili 83 on March 20, 2014, 03:37:50 PM
Congrats to the Flyers.

Must be feelin' good beating OSU.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Atticus on March 20, 2014, 04:05:42 PM
I have UD beating SU. The assistant coach at UD was an all-be player under Boeheim. He was a late 90's player so he didnt player zone exclusively, but he knows their general principals. Boeheim didnt run a defense that as exclusively zone until around 2007.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: NickelDimer on March 20, 2014, 04:07:58 PM
I have UD beating SU. The assistant coach at UD was an all-be player under Boeheim. He was a late 90's player so he didnt player zone exclusively, but he knows their general principals. Boeheim didnt run a defense that as exclusively zone until around 2007.

If I were SU I would prefer to play OSU
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: brandx on March 20, 2014, 04:08:57 PM
Dayton 60-ohio 59.

Love that Aaron Craft missed the winning shot!

8.8 points a game and under 5 assists. If the guy wasn't white, none of us would know his name. Translate Tebow's football skills to basketball and who do you get?
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: brandx on March 20, 2014, 04:10:24 PM
I have UD beating SU. The assistant coach at UD was an all-be player under Boeheim. He was a late 90's player so he didnt player zone exclusively, but he knows their general principals. Boeheim didnt run a defense that as exclusively zone until around 2007.

I had Dayton over aOSU on all my sheets, but no way they beat Syracuse.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: BenCat12 on March 20, 2014, 04:17:04 PM
8.8 points a game and under 5 assists. If the guy wasn't white, none of us would know his name. Translate Tebow's football skills to basketball and who do you get?
Agreed.  Had 5 turnovers today that cost them immensely as well
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 21, 2014, 07:29:07 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjP72hZCQAAx3qj.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: leever on March 21, 2014, 08:50:38 AM
I was at the games in Buffalo and whatever else you say about Dayton they had two fairly large sections of fans who traveled to the game.  Except for Syracuse (of course), it looked they had the largest rooting section of any of the other teams.  Ohio State probably had 1/5 of the fans Dayton had.  Dayton fans were loud and really supported their team.  The band and the cheerleaders actually kept the fans involved.    Looked like Dayton had more fans than the old Big East (UCONN) and new Big East (Villanova) combined.  Syracuse, of course, packed the house.  All in all, very impressive.

By comparison, I'd guess there were maybe 100 UWM fans (excluding the band and cheerleaders).  A good part of the "neutral" fans actually joined in cheering for Mil-wau-kee when it looked like UWM might give Villanova a game.

Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: 🏀 on March 21, 2014, 09:14:15 AM
I was at the games in Buffalo and whatever else you say about Dayton they had two fairly large sections of fans who traveled to the game.  Except for Syracuse (of course), it looked they had the largest rooting section of any of the other teams.  Ohio State probably had 1/5 of the fans Dayton had.  Dayton fans were loud and really supported their team.  The band and the cheerleaders actually kept the fans involved.    Looked like Dayton had more fans than the old Big East (UCONN) and new Big East (Villanova) combined.  Syracuse, of course, packed the house.  All in all, very impressive.

By comparison, I'd guess there were maybe 100 UWM fans (excluding the band and cheerleaders).  A good part of the "neutral" fans actually joined in cheering for Mil-wau-kee when it looked like UWM might give Villanova a game.



Cavaliers everywhere.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: leever on March 21, 2014, 09:24:40 AM
Cavaliers everywhere.

Parking lots were full!  And a few fans with stupid beanies with propellers on top.  I just said they showed up - not that I enjoyed their company!
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: 🏀 on March 21, 2014, 09:41:32 AM
Parking lots were full!  And a few fans with stupid beanies with propellers on top.  I just said they showed up - not that I enjoyed their company!

Of course they showed up. It's Dayton, the taint of Ohio between Cincinnati and Columbus.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 21, 2014, 12:48:14 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjP72hZCQAAx3qj.jpg:large)

Thats's FANTASTIC!
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Eldon on March 21, 2014, 12:52:21 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjP72hZCQAAx3qj.jpg:large)

This is f**king fantastic!!
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: keefe on March 21, 2014, 01:19:33 PM
Of course they showed up. It's Dayton, the taint of Ohio between Cincinnati and Columbus.

What's the deal? Did you not get accepted by Dayton?
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: chapman on March 22, 2014, 08:29:15 PM
Dayton has just beaten Syracuse in Buffalo.  In three days they have twice as many tournament wins as they had previously had since 1990.  I'll give them one thing, as far as auditions to join the conference, they've performed well this year.  Going to take some Pepto since I found myself pulling for Dayton, but Boewhine will do that to you.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: 🏀 on March 22, 2014, 08:31:52 PM
What's the deal? Did you not get accepted by Dayton?
What's the deal? Did you not get accepted by Dayton?

I found myself actually rooting for Dayton tonight...gross....

Dayton screams mid-major and they are never shifting from that. Don't want them in the conference, especially don't want their coach.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: source? on March 22, 2014, 08:32:49 PM
Great win for them. Still work to do, but their resume is improving.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 22, 2014, 08:33:46 PM
What's the deal? Did you not get accepted by Dayton?

You ever visit UD? Any true Marquetter would enjoy the UD Ghetto. Super fun school.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Eldon on March 22, 2014, 08:34:24 PM
I bet coach K is pissed!  Upon learning that Dayton beat Syracuse, I bet the cheese fell out of his snout.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 22, 2014, 09:31:25 PM
We lose our coach, Dayton is in the S16, Wisconsin is in the S16.

Kill me now.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: tower912 on March 23, 2014, 09:19:16 AM
You ever visit UD? Any true Marquetter would enjoy the UD Ghetto. Super fun school.

Yup.   Partied there.    Congrats to UD.   Hopefully, when they come to the Big East, MU isn't voted off of the island. 
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: 🏀 on March 23, 2014, 10:35:15 AM
This is floating around Twitter:

http://udpride.com/forums/showpost.php?p=350983&postcount=1

Yikes.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 23, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
Wow. Literally made me cry. God bless him and his son, Caleb's, memory.

Go Flyers.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 23, 2014, 09:07:11 PM
Wow. Literally made me cry. God bless him and his son, Caleb's, memory.

Go Flyers.

UD seems to have a great fan base that not only is Alumni, but Locals as well.

Would love to see the same support in Milwaukee that Dayton gets in Dayton.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 23, 2014, 09:19:14 PM
Speaking of Dayton, those of you in the "ABD" camp seriously need to reconsider your position:

http://extramustard.si.com/2014/03/22/morgan-miller-wife-dayton-archie-miller/
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 23, 2014, 09:21:41 PM
Speaking of Dayton, those of you in the "ABD" camp seriously need to reconsider your position:

http://extramustard.si.com/2014/03/22/morgan-miller-wife-dayton-archie-miller/

Who is that hottie?
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: WarriorHal on March 23, 2014, 09:30:12 PM
Who is that hottie?

Morgan Miller, wife of Dayton coach.
Title: Re: Dayton
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 23, 2014, 10:56:23 PM
Morgan Miller, wife of Dayton coach.

Bode's wife, also named Morgan Miller is hot as well....must be something about Morgan Miller