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Title: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 08, 2014, 04:21:55 PM
Moving on...

If you are looking for optimism, I actually think today's loss to SJU may be a positive in terms of MU's potential matchups in the BET. To me Xavier or Providence is a toss up. The regular season results seem to bear that out, and I actually prefer the match-up with Xavier.

Now, if they manage to win that first one, ask yourself this, which team has the better opportunity of upsetting the higher seed, Georgetown (yes i am counting out DePaul) vs. Creighton, or Seton Hall/ Butler vs. Villanova? For me that one's not even close. So I think there is at least a chance that Crighton could get knocked out.

I don't see MU winning it, or even playing Saturday night necessarily, but the way this Big east season has gone, I guess not much would surprise me. I think Villanova is a heavy favorite, but it opens up a lot from there.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: bradley center bat on March 08, 2014, 05:12:14 PM
Can't wait to watch every game! Gus, Raft and EA in primetime!
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 08, 2014, 05:15:17 PM
Conference tourney time is my favorite time of the year.     MU needs to catch all of the breaks they have been missing.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 08, 2014, 05:17:56 PM
Conference tourney time is my favorite time of the year.     MU needs to catch all of the breaks they have been missing.

Exactly.  Not that they will, though.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 08, 2014, 05:22:17 PM
No, this year's version reminds me of the Detroit Lions.   Close to good enough, unable to make the big play or big stop, frustrating their fanbase to no end.     
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on March 08, 2014, 05:57:12 PM
Unfortunately, I see a one and done in the BET.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 08, 2014, 06:05:30 PM
Unfortunately, I see a one and done in the BET.

Surprise surprise.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: brandx on March 08, 2014, 06:52:06 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see them play well. I think they could beat any team in the conference other than Creighton.

A defensive game plan to make them shoot three's is not going to work. Ever. And I don't see Buzz changing from what he did the first two times.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 12, 2014, 08:52:30 AM
A little food for thought on the conference...

http://nypost.com/2014/03/11/give-east-a-chance-new-conference-needs-room-to-grow/ (http://nypost.com/2014/03/11/give-east-a-chance-new-conference-needs-room-to-grow/)

Have to admit I am starting to look forward to the BET. Balanced league, great venue, and at least as far as I can see on Twitter, I expect FS1 to do a very good job.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: copious1218 on March 12, 2014, 10:11:35 AM
So who is everyone picking today?  I've got Butler and G'Town moving on.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on March 12, 2014, 10:14:24 AM
A little food for thought on the conference...

http://nypost.com/2014/03/11/give-east-a-chance-new-conference-needs-room-to-grow/ (http://nypost.com/2014/03/11/give-east-a-chance-new-conference-needs-room-to-grow/)

Have to admit I am starting to look forward to the BET. Balanced league, great venue, and at least as far as I can see on Twitter, I expect FS1 to do a very good job.

Concerns about ticket sales:

http://www.omaha.com/article/20140311/BLUEJAYS/140319611

Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: StillWarriors on March 12, 2014, 10:31:35 AM
Who would have ever thought at the beginning of the season there'd be a Big East Tourney preview with no mention of Marquette?? Obviously been a struggle, but reading this just made it hit home again.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24478309/big-east-tournament-preview-prediction-tv-info

Better days ahead. Go Warriors, go Buzz.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: nyg on March 12, 2014, 12:26:16 PM
Dougie Buckets on the SI cover this week.  Nice job and good BE exposure.

http://college-basketball.si.com/2014/03/12/doug-mcdermott-creighton-larry-bird-sports-illustrated-cover/

Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Atticus on March 12, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
Concerns about ticket sales:

http://www.omaha.com/article/20140311/BLUEJAYS/140319611



Wow! 30% of tickets for the championship game are unsold. Ouch.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: wardle2wade on March 12, 2014, 12:47:17 PM
Wow! 30% of tickets for the championship game are unsold. Ouch.

Fwiw, the hottest ticket every year isn't the Championship, but instead are the semi's on Friday night.  Twice as many fans/teams involved.  Besides last year's historic Cuse-Lou final (where I tix in advance), I've gotten into the championship (good seats) for way way less than face.  Fans generally don't want to commit to a Sat night in NY unless they know their team is playing.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: drewm88 on March 12, 2014, 12:48:22 PM
Wow! 30% of tickets for the championship game are unsold. Ouch.

Curious how the ticket numbers compare to past years and to projections. We had 6 more teams last year, so an 11% drop in tickets sold doesn't sound too bad to me.

And how many title game tickets are usually sold at this point vs. get picked up by fans once their team makes it?
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: wardle2wade on March 12, 2014, 01:09:07 PM
Curious how the ticket numbers compare to past years and to projections. We had 6 more teams last year, so an 11% drop in tickets sold doesn't sound too bad to me.

And how many title game tickets are usually sold at this point vs. get picked up by fans once their team makes it?

In recent past years, the BET was entirely sold-out to the school allotments.  They never went onsale to the general.  The Big East recognized that having 5-6 fewer schools (and no Cuse/Uconn) selling out MSG wasn't going to happen just through allotments... so they correctly put them up for sale to the general public. 
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: drewm88 on March 12, 2014, 01:57:35 PM
In recent past years, the BET was entirely sold-out to the school allotments.  They never went onsale to the general.  The Big East recognized that having 5-6 fewer schools (and no Cuse/Uconn) selling out MSG wasn't going to happen just through allotments... so they correctly put them up for sale to the general public. 

Appreciate the insight.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 12, 2014, 02:44:40 PM
Dougie Buckets on the SI cover this week.  Nice job and good BE exposure.

http://college-basketball.si.com/2014/03/12/doug-mcdermott-creighton-larry-bird-sports-illustrated-cover/



Cue the curse
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on March 12, 2014, 03:00:01 PM
Dougie Buckets on the SI cover this week.  Nice job and good BE exposure.

http://college-basketball.si.com/2014/03/12/doug-mcdermott-creighton-larry-bird-sports-illustrated-cover/



I wonder what Al McGuire was speaking out about in November of 1977?
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 12, 2014, 07:31:36 PM
If MU goes on a nice this weekend a grabs the auto-bid, what's your best guess for a seed at 20-14. I'm going 10.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: wardle2wade on March 12, 2014, 08:08:34 PM
If MU goes on a nice this weekend a grabs the auto-bid, what's your best guess for a seed at 20-14. I'm going 10.

I had the same thought, unless it involved MU beating both Creighton and Nova.  All wishful thinking, but stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on March 12, 2014, 08:33:13 PM
If MU goes on a nice this weekend a grabs the auto-bid, what's your best guess for a seed at 20-14. I'm going 10.

I'd like to be a 12, beat the 5, and go to the Elite 8 from there.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: 77ncaachamps on March 12, 2014, 08:47:28 PM
Butler out with a one-point loss to DePaul.

Who'd have thought that Butler would look this bad? Losing Stevens was big but there were enough players and the "Butler Way" to see them through.

Yikes.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: The Lens on March 12, 2014, 08:53:22 PM
I'd like to be a 12, beat the 5, and go to the Elite 8 from there.

I'm feeling the S16.  That's what Buzz does when he goes 9-9 in conf.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: warriorchick on March 12, 2014, 08:56:14 PM
Butler out with a one-point loss to DePaul.

Who'd have thought that Butler would look this bad? Losing Stevens was big but there were enough players and the "Butler Way" to see them through.

Yikes.

Um, I believe you mean Seton Hall, not DePaul.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: bradley center bat on March 12, 2014, 09:02:45 PM
Ya, big difference between Seton Hall and DePaul.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: forgetful on March 12, 2014, 09:04:03 PM
Butler out with a one-point loss to DePaul.

Who'd have thought that Butler would look this bad? Losing Stevens was big but there were enough players and the "Butler Way" to see them through.

Yikes.

Two things, they lost Rosevelt Jones to injury for the entire season…that hurt a weak team.

Second, I think it testifies to how good the conference is.  OOC they went and beat a decent princeton team, Washington State and Purdue.  They lost in OT to LSU and by 2 to Oklahoma St. They would have been competitive in most leagues but were a bottom feeder in the BE.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: WayOfTheWarrior on March 12, 2014, 09:07:47 PM
I'm feeling the S16.  That's what Buzz does when he goes 9-9 in conf.

Probably a good bet, but according to the progression we have seen over the past 3 years its only "rational" to assume a Final Four appearance.

I mean UCONN had an unexpected 11 game run to win the Big East and NCAA tourneys and they were 9-9 in conference...of course ignore the fact that they had one of the best PGs in the country as well as no losses outside of conference among many other factors.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on March 12, 2014, 09:12:08 PM
GTown looking pretty poor against DePaul right now.
Actually both teams just firing up bricks.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: WayOfTheWarrior on March 12, 2014, 09:20:11 PM
Yeah, this game is on pace to be in the low 50s right now. I hope G-Town will turn it on in the second half...at least for our sake. It will be a cold day in hell when the Blue Demons beat the Blue Jays.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: mugrack on March 12, 2014, 10:29:07 PM
Go DePaul!
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: NersEllenson on March 12, 2014, 10:32:53 PM
Man...if GTown goes down to DePaul....think they really played themselves off the bubble...even with some of their quality wins.  Not a good development for Big East if they go down...and Xavier very well could lose to us tomorrow...which could put them toward the back of the field/bubble...still feel St. John's gets in and they could end up being the 3rd and last team from Big East to get in if GTown blows it tonight and Xavier tomorrow..
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Oldgym on March 12, 2014, 10:33:47 PM
DePaul up eight at the under four. Holy hell.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: mugrack on March 12, 2014, 10:39:11 PM
DePaul doing everything they can to give the game away
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: BenCat12 on March 12, 2014, 10:42:05 PM
Need a miracle from Georgetown.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: mugrack on March 12, 2014, 10:42:15 PM
DePaul playing scared
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 12, 2014, 10:43:35 PM
Well, this really screws us.....if we can even beat Xavier.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: BenCat12 on March 12, 2014, 10:44:27 PM
Well, this really screws us.....if we can even beat Xavier.
Yup, really needed Georgetown to knock off Creighton for us, if we get that far
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: mugrack on March 12, 2014, 10:48:49 PM
Tough to beat any college b ball team 3 times in a year.  No way MU beats Georgetown 3 times in a season, no matter how bad JT 3 is in the post season.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 12, 2014, 10:49:16 PM
I mean, we were going to have to beat a good team no matter what...Its like you expected GTown to beat Creighton which I had not confidence in. I think were a better team than GTown. Good for Depaul, Garrett and Hamilton are good for their teams future.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 12, 2014, 10:49:35 PM
Tough to beat any college b ball team 3 times in a year.  No way MU beats Georgetown 3 times in a season, no matter how bad JT 3 is in the post season.

No way? Are you drunk?
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 12, 2014, 10:49:47 PM
Tough to beat any college b ball team 3 times in a year.  No way MU beats Georgetown 3 times in a season, no matter how bad JT 3 is in the post season.

This. Everybody scoffed at me when I said that earlier. Coaches make adjustments. Not the GTown beats MU fact but it really is tough to beat a team 3 times in a season.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Eldon on March 12, 2014, 10:50:09 PM
<sigh>
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: mugrack on March 12, 2014, 10:50:32 PM
Just know what I'm talking about
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Logi4three on March 12, 2014, 10:51:20 PM
Someone should remind Georgetown it is not the NCAA tournament yet... they don't have to go out in the first round.   ;)
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 12, 2014, 10:53:57 PM
So much for G'Town knocking Creighton off for us
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Eldon on March 12, 2014, 10:55:00 PM
This. Everybody scoffed at me when I said that earlier. Coaches make adjustments. Not the GTown beats MU fact but it really is tough to beat a team 3 times in a season.

If we beat X, what do you wager that CU beats us by a larger margin than either of our other two meetings this season?
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: CreightonWarrior on March 12, 2014, 10:55:46 PM
Rooting for you guys tomorrow, hopefully we see you on Friday!
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: WayOfTheWarrior on March 12, 2014, 10:55:59 PM
"And Depaul knocks off Georgetown for the first time in two decades"

....really? *face palm*

Well maybe Garrett can put up 30 points against the Jays...still wouldn't matter.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 12, 2014, 10:56:58 PM
What's Georgetown's RPI? LOL
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: BenCat12 on March 12, 2014, 10:58:17 PM
Rooting for you guys tomorrow, hopefully we see you on Friday!
Really?  We have sunk so low that you'd rather play us then DePaul or Xavier?
This is as strange to me as MU fans rooting for DePaul vs. Georgetown
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 12, 2014, 10:59:05 PM
If we beat X, what do you wager that CU beats us by a larger margin than either of our other two meetings this season?

I highly doubt that happens. I mean its gonna be a tough game to win but MU has much more to play for and the BET is a different animal. That and I will bet you any amount of money Davante puts up more shots then his last two games against Creighton combined.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: CreightonWarrior on March 12, 2014, 11:07:01 PM
Really?  We have sunk so low that you'd rather play us then DePaul or Xavier?
This is as strange to me as MU fans rooting for DePaul vs. Georgetown
Don't think we can play Depaul and then see them again on Friday
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: BenCat12 on March 12, 2014, 11:09:08 PM
Don't think we can play Depaul and then see them again on Friday
Good point! ;)
My point remains regarding Xavier.  Without Stainbrook you'd still rather play us?
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: ErickJD08 on March 12, 2014, 11:12:08 PM
So who is everyone picking today?  I've got Butler and G'Town moving on.

Nice...
[j/k]
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: CreightonWarrior on March 12, 2014, 11:16:56 PM
Good point! ;)
My point remains regarding Xavier.  Without Stainbrook you'd still rather play us?
Yes, no offense but I like the way we match up with you guys, its been agreed upon by a lot of people on here.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 12, 2014, 11:19:40 PM
Yes, no offense but I like the way we match up with you guys, its been agreed upon by a lot of people on here.

None taken. With as many open threes as MU allows, I'd want to play us too.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: BenCat12 on March 12, 2014, 11:29:33 PM
Yes, no offense but I like the way we match up with you guys, its been agreed upon by a lot of people on here.
Well, that settles it, if something was agreed on here it has to be true!
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: copious1218 on March 13, 2014, 05:45:05 AM
Nice...
[j/k]

Shows what I know.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on March 13, 2014, 06:25:41 AM
I don't think GT was going to beat Creighton anyway... sure, a lot better shot than Depaul, but we all knew McBucketts was coming our way.
I remember everybody hoping and thinking that Bucknell had a good shot to take down Butler in the first round of the big dance last year.
Ric Flair visited us, I'm sure he told us to that to be the man you gotta beat the man.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: CTWarrior on March 13, 2014, 07:10:13 AM
If we beat X, what do you wager that CU beats us by a larger margin than either of our other two meetings this season?

I suspect there is a little something to the "tough to beat a team three times in a season" theory, but only if the teams are relatively evenly matched, like us and Georgetown.  If one team bludgeons another twice, I would suspect that a third beating is likely in the third matchup.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: UticaBusBarn on March 13, 2014, 07:47:17 AM
I suspect there is a little something to the "tough to beat a team three times in a season" theory, but only if the teams are relatively evenly matched, like us and Georgetown.  If one team bludgeons another twice, I would suspect that a third beating is likely in the third matchup.



Regardless, if the Warriors take out Xavier tonight, then I would rather they play the Blue Birds, or whatever they are called. Why?

For two reasons ... one, I have come to fundamentally dislike them because they are, well, to be nice, a bunch of horse asses. Two, I still would like to see the Warriors get a least one big time scalp this season.

So, I say, f**k it Warriors, beat Xavier and bet your pride, tradition, toughness, character and, indeed, the entire season on beating the Blue Duck Bills, or whatever they call themselves. Take down low and just beat the living crap out of them.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: statnik on March 13, 2014, 08:14:47 AM
Conference tourney time is my favorite time of the year.     MU needs to catch all of the breaks they have been missing.

They have been about 50/50 on breaks.  They have had as many close wins as close losses, but they have consistently shown they can't compete with the big guns.  All their games against Creighton and Villanova were decisive victories for the two aforementioned teams.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Windyplayer on March 13, 2014, 09:20:52 AM
So, I say, f**k it Warriors, beat Xavier and bet your pride, tradition, toughness, character and, indeed, the entire season on beating the Blue Duck Bills, or whatever they call themselves. Take down low and just beat the living crap out of them.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 13, 2014, 10:21:27 AM
Random what if situation. We beat Xavier and Depaul somehow beats Creighton. We beat Depaul only to find Seton Hall waiting for us in the championship.

I think we'd go from bottom third in KP's luck rating to number 1. I also think we end up with a 14 seed or lower, lol
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: CTWarrior on March 13, 2014, 11:10:54 AM
So, who do we all think is going to win today?  I'll say Nova, St. Johns, Creighton and Marquette.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: swoopem on March 13, 2014, 11:17:24 AM
Anyone know what time our game tomorrow would be?
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 13, 2014, 11:23:03 AM
Anyone know what time our game tomorrow would be?

9:30
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: forgetful on March 13, 2014, 11:25:38 AM
Random what if situation. We beat Xavier and Depaul somehow beats Creighton. We beat Depaul only to find Seton Hall waiting for us in the championship.

I think we'd go from bottom third in KP's luck rating to number 1. I also think we end up with a 14 seed or lower, lol

I'd take that, while we are at it, pair it with the Committee violating their avoid rematches rule and pair us up against UW in round 1 to allow us to kick the snot out of them.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 13, 2014, 11:26:48 AM
9:30

That's Eastern time, right?
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Windyplayer on March 13, 2014, 11:31:06 AM
Seton Hall up 9 with under 10 to play in the first half. Impressive start.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Big Papi on March 13, 2014, 11:31:44 AM
Its early but if Seton hall pulls the upset on Villanova, that double OT loss to St. Johns would sting a bit more.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on March 13, 2014, 11:41:02 AM
Seton Hall now up by 13 with 6 Min left in first half
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: WadeJFB on March 13, 2014, 11:47:24 AM
I truly believe that if Buzz had unleashed the freshmen we would be in the NCAA tournament. Deonte has the skills and personality that could carry this team. Dawson is simply an upgrade from D. Wilson. JJJ couldve stretched the floor and provided much needed athletism. Bottom line is that we have D-1 talent but they were mostly on the bench.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Windyplayer on March 13, 2014, 11:52:53 AM
I truly believe that if Buzz had unleashed the freshmen we would be in the NCAA tournament. Deonte has the skills and personality that could carry this team. Dawson is simply an upgrade from D. Wilson. JJJ couldve stretched the floor and provided much needed athletism. Bottom line is that we have D-1 talent but they were mostly on the bench.
Oh, hey, you.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Windyplayer on March 13, 2014, 11:53:28 AM
Its early but if Seton hall pulls the upset on Villanova, that double OT loss to St. Johns would sting a bit more.
No, it would make our path easier.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Smokin' Jae on March 13, 2014, 11:53:52 AM
Its early but if Seton hall pulls the upset on Villanova, that double OT loss to St. Johns would sting a bit more.
I agree, but the way I see it we were going to have to beat one of Villanova and Creighton at least in order to win the BET
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: muwarrior97 on March 13, 2014, 12:20:16 PM
Re: Seton Hall vs. Nova.....Bell, Hilliard and Archie have combined for 2 pts with 18mins left, Auda has 13 WTF!!!

Let's just beat X tonight, WAR!!! Win and advance

Go Warriors
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 13, 2014, 12:32:17 PM
Lot of time left but this just proves my point how difficult it is to beat a team 3 times in a season. I would hardly call GTown/Depaul and Seton Hall/Nova an even matchup...
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 13, 2014, 12:37:09 PM
Re: Seton Hall vs. Nova.....Bell, Hilliard and Archie have combined for 2 pts with 18mins left, Auda has 13 WTF!!!

Let's just beat X tonight, WAR!!! Win and advance

Go Warriors

The adage says "it's a guard's game." 

SHU (Sina, Edwin, Oliver) and Nova (Archie, Hilliard, Bell) both start 3 guys listed as guards.  Right now, SHU's guards are a combined 3-18, and Nova's are a combined 1-17.  Ouch!
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: 4th and State on March 13, 2014, 12:39:47 PM
BE deserves at least 5 bids if not more.  Lots of quality teams in the conference and really don't get the recognition for that it deserves.  people calling it a 3 bid league are absolutely clueless.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Windyplayer on March 13, 2014, 12:40:56 PM
Lot of time left but this just proves my point how difficult it is to beat a team 3 times in a season. I would hardly call GTown/Depaul and Seton Hall/Nova an even matchup...
Eh, it's one game. Seton Hall is a pretty good team when healthy, and they looked really good last night (other than at the end). The 3-times theory could apply here, but there are a ton of other reasons as to why Nova is losing to SHU at this point in the game.  
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: AirPunches on March 13, 2014, 12:43:28 PM
Following the game on espn on my phone. Check out what it says on the front page. Calling the BE tourney the American tourney? They refuse to acknowledge the big east.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: nyg on March 13, 2014, 12:48:01 PM
16 to 0 run for NOVA.  SHU out of gas.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: NersEllenson on March 13, 2014, 12:49:32 PM
BE deserves at least 5 bids if not more.  Lots of quality teams in the conference and really don't get the recognition for that it deserves.  people calling it a 3 bid league are absolutely clueless.

Agree Big East isn't getting its due respect.  Sure it isn't old Big East....but other than DePaul...there aren't weak teams in the conference top to bottom...when Seton Hall is full strength.  I mean GTown finishing 7th with its out of conference record??  Then again, MU finished ahead of GTown in Big East and flamed out in out of conference play.  But no way A-10 deserves more bids than Big East no matter how you slice it..
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 13, 2014, 12:52:56 PM
BE deserves at least 5 bids if not more.  Lots of quality teams in the conference and really don't get the recognition for that it deserves.  people calling it a 3 bid league are absolutely clueless.

Huh.

They're are two quality teams in this league. Below that is a bunch of mediocrity. 4 would be the max this league deserves this year.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Windyplayer on March 13, 2014, 12:54:23 PM
16 to 0 run for NOVA.  SHU out of gas.
The team must have downed some beans. SHU up 5 with under 5 to play.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on March 13, 2014, 01:02:28 PM
Hall by 2 with 2 left
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: 4th and State on March 13, 2014, 01:04:49 PM
Huh.

They're are two quality teams in this league. Below that is a bunch of mediocrity. 4 would be the max this league deserves this year.

I couldn't disagree more.  A good starting point would be Georgetown.  They finished 7th in the league and had they been in the American of A-10 would have EASILY made the tournament.  I fear that our league is being punished by its sheer depth.  We have a legit conference and aren't gaming it with a few top tier teams and the rest bottom feeders (cough) AAC (cough).  To be real, GT, Xavier, Providence, STJ would all be challenging for the A-10 title, let alone a NCAA bid.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Tums Festival on March 13, 2014, 01:06:12 PM
I know it's not Big East, but the Illini just beat I4.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 13, 2014, 01:09:19 PM
Auda should be taken out back and shot
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: muboy262 on March 13, 2014, 01:14:20 PM
Down goes 'Nova
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: nyg on March 13, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
Auda should be taken out back and shot

His two turnovers (pass to himself and getting stripped) in last two minutes hurt them.

But man, Gibbs with a make at the buzzer.  Good for the Hall.  Bad for NOVA.  Great game.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: forgetful on March 13, 2014, 01:16:02 PM
Can Depaul do us a favor and do the same to Creighton.

Honestly would be the best thing for the league to have Nova and Creighton go down early.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: mattyv1908 on March 13, 2014, 01:16:09 PM
Wow.

Hopefully Creighton and St. John's get beat as well prior to our game tonight.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: keefe on March 13, 2014, 01:16:13 PM
I wonder what Al McGuire was speaking out about in November of 1977?

"That Hank Raymonds is no Al McGuire..."
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Tums Festival on March 13, 2014, 01:17:18 PM
Definitely takes Villanova out of the running for a #1 seed.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: NersEllenson on March 13, 2014, 01:24:55 PM
Side note - MSG looked packed to the rafters - which was great to see...obviously lots of Nova fans made trip..but hope to see the event very well attended for semi-finals and final...as it points toward MSG continuing to be a viable venue for the event..
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: towncryer on March 13, 2014, 01:35:01 PM
Part of me wants Creighton to lay an egg against DePaul to make it that much easier for us to have a shot.  But the other part of me wants Creighton again...I think we can take them on one day's rest (for them and us).  

First things first...let's get up early on Xavier and cruise to a solid win.  
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 13, 2014, 01:36:50 PM
Well my Seton Hall friend who had no interest in this year's BET now all of a sudden is talking about tomorrow evening already.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: The Lens on March 13, 2014, 01:37:06 PM
Side note - MSG looked packed to the rafters - which was great to see...obviously lots of Nova fans made trip..but hope to see the event very well attended for semi-finals and final...as it points toward MSG continuing to be a viable venue for the event..

Hope you're right.  Always hard to tell at MSG because they are one of the few arenas that understand lighting should be on the court and not in the stands.  Barclays gets it right, as does Staples for Lakers games.  Drives me buts how well lit the BMO BC is these days.  I asked a Bucks Game Ops guy about this once and he (or more aptly Bango) said when he delivers a pizza to a 400 level fan, he wants everyone to see that.  I'm in sports sponsorship for a living and I still couldn't handle that excuse.

I miss the MECCA.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 13, 2014, 01:38:43 PM
 To be real, GT, Xavier, Providence, STJ would all be challenging for the A-10 title, let alone a NCAA bid.

If the A10 is the comparison point for the Big East, the league is in worse shape than you think.

Marquette, St. John's, Georgetown, Seton Hall. All mediocre teams. It's a down year, it happens.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: mug644 on March 13, 2014, 01:40:21 PM
Side note - MSG looked packed to the rafters - which was great to see...obviously lots of Nova fans made trip..but hope to see the event very well attended for semi-finals and final...as it points toward MSG continuing to be a viable venue for the event..

But now many of the Nova fans will go home.  Hmm, maybe I'll venture down from my western MA home for Saturday night's MU game! Tickets will be available and cheap. ;)
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 13, 2014, 01:40:40 PM
Part of me wants Creighton to lay an egg against DePaul to make it that much easier for us to have a shot.  But the other part of me wants Creighton again...I think we can take them on one day's rest (for them and us).  

First things first...let's get up early on Xavier and cruise to a solid win.  

Nah. You want Creighton to lay an egg. A PC type egg. Dougie down sick along with Wragge type egg. In fact, don't show up type egg.

MU ain't in need of a pretty win to bolster a resume. They're in need of winning the Tournament. Thus, we want that road to be the easiest possible path it can be so godspeed DePaul and pray that Hall wins tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: mug644 on March 13, 2014, 01:46:32 PM
Nah. You want Creighton to lay an egg. A PC type egg. Dougie down sick along with Wragge type egg. In fact, don't show up type egg.

MU ain't in need of a pretty win to bolster a resume. They're in need of winning the Tournament. Thus, we want that road to be the easiest possible path it can be so godspeed DePaul and pray that Hall wins tomorrow night.

That's right. Even the idea of getting a 'good' win right now doesn't matter. I highly doubt that beating Creighton en route to a tournament victory would give MU any higher seed than if it wins by beating Depaul en route to the championship. So, go Depaul and make our path a bit easier!
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on March 13, 2014, 02:02:11 PM
But now many of the Nova fans will go home.  Hmm, maybe I'll venture down from my western MA home for Saturday night's MU game! Tickets will be available and cheap. ;)

Side note - MSG looked packed to the rafters - which was great to see...obviously lots of Nova fans made trip..but hope to see the event very well attended for semi-finals and final...as it points toward MSG continuing to be a viable venue for the event..

Announcers were actually saying in the 2nd half that the fans were starting to pour into MSG for the 2nd game
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: towncryer on March 13, 2014, 02:16:26 PM
That's right. Even the idea of getting a 'good' win right now doesn't matter. I highly doubt that beating Creighton en route to a tournament victory would give MU any higher seed than if it wins by beating Depaul en route to the championship. So, go Depaul and make our path a bit easier!

Yeah, you both are right.  But still...nah, never mind.  You're both right. :)
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: 4th and State on March 13, 2014, 03:49:53 PM
If the A10 is the comparison point for the Big East, the league is in worse shape than you think.

Marquette, St. John's, Georgetown, Seton Hall. All mediocre teams. It's a down year, it happens.

In the eyes of some writers, it is.  Some have more A-10 teams in than BE teams.  I think that is ludacris and oblivious of anyone who follows college hoops, but it seems you may be agreeing with them.

The NCAA is full of mediocre teams.  League is better than its perception is all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: muwarrior97 on March 13, 2014, 03:55:13 PM
Down go the Johnnies....so much for their BET run and deep March run, onto vacation for Mr. Lavin and his hoop squad
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: CreightonWarrior on March 13, 2014, 04:00:10 PM
Down go the Johnnies....so much for their BET run and deep March run, onto vacation for Mr. Lavin and his hoop squad
Not before he signs that extension and takes his bonus which he should owe all to Gene Keady
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 13, 2014, 04:03:26 PM
FS1 and the Big East cannot be particularly happy...losing Georgetown, St. John's and Villanova in the first 18 hours. Marquette probably the next biggest marquee name left.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: nyg on March 13, 2014, 04:32:29 PM
On side note.  Louisville beat Rutgers 92 to 31.  Jeez, 61 point defeat. 
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Windyplayer on March 13, 2014, 04:38:04 PM
On side note.  Louisville beat Rutgers 92 to 31.  Jeez, 61 point defeat. 
A riveting future ACC/Big Ten match-up taking place in a wasteland conference--albeit a pretty decent one this year. Next.

(Holy crap...that's ugly)
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: wardle2wade on March 13, 2014, 04:41:55 PM
Saw this posted on twitter this morning regarding yesterday's attendance.  It was posted in rebuttal of espn's diatribe...  

"Last nite attendance. BE- 13,177, AAC- 4,815, ACC- 10,945, A10- 3,845. All opening round. Big East Requiem? Uh, no ESPN. No."

So, are these numbers like last year's conference-on-steroids Big East?  No.  Is it still respectable?  Very much so.

What people are missing is that there are many people who just go to the Big East tournament, because it's an event and a fun place to enjoy a $10 beer.  This will still hold true on Fri and Sat nights this year.  What will probably get hurt the most by the St Johns and Nova losses are the prices on the secondary ticket market.  Had St John's won, they would have gone up quite a bit... now they will likely soften.

Nothing to be ashamed of.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: mug644 on March 13, 2014, 05:16:22 PM
Saw this posted on twitter this morning regarding yesterday's attendance.  It was posted in rebuttal of espn's diatribe...  

"Last nite attendance. BE- 13,177, AAC- 4,815, ACC- 10,945, A10- 3,845. All opening round. Big East Requiem? Uh, no ESPN. No."

So, are these numbers like last year's conference-on-steroids Big East?  No.  Is it still respectable?  Very much so.

What people are missing is that there are many people who just go to the Big East tournament, because it's an event and a fun place to enjoy a $10 beer.  This will still hold true on Fri and Sat nights this year.  What will probably get hurt the most by the St Johns and Nova losses are the prices on the secondary ticket market.  Had St John's won, they would have gone up quite a bit... now they will likely soften.

Nothing to be ashamed of.

And if MU gets to Sat night, I'm leaning towards road tripping to take advantage of them there soft prices.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on March 13, 2014, 06:29:08 PM
10 minutes into the Depaul/Creighton game. Creighton already 6/9 from 3. McDermott and Manigat both 3/4

update: 7/10, mcDermott 4/5
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: muwarrior97 on March 13, 2014, 06:34:20 PM
10 minutes into the Depaul/Creighton game. Creighton already 6/9 from 3. McDermott and Manigat both 3/4

update: 7/10, mcDermott 4/5

Imagine what it would feel like to have a shooter.....ahhhh dream feels good, swish  ;D
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: brandx on March 13, 2014, 06:37:09 PM
10 minutes into the Depaul/Creighton game. Creighton already 6/9 from 3. McDermott and Manigat both 3/4

update: 7/10, mcDermott 4/5

Sounds like Depaul stole our strategy. Shut down the lane and make them shoot 3s.

Brilliant!!
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: brandx on March 13, 2014, 06:39:30 PM
6 shot attempts inside the arc. 13 3-point attempts.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Let's Go Warriors on March 13, 2014, 06:42:51 PM
Creighton sets a lot of moving picks away from the ball.

very interesting technique.  They allow the defender to push through easily to avoid the foul call.  But slide in the way of the defender at the last second.  Should be a foul...
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: nyg on March 13, 2014, 06:49:38 PM
McBuckets has 27 in first half.  Will he go for 50?????
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: BallBoy on March 13, 2014, 06:50:27 PM
McBuckets has 27 in first half.  Will he go for 50?????

Hopefully, he burns out all of his makes tonight. 
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 13, 2014, 06:52:51 PM
McBuckets has 27 in first half.  Will he go for 50?????

Nah, he'll spend most of the second half onthe bench. He'll be nice and fresh tomorrow. stupid Georgetown!
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: bradley center bat on March 13, 2014, 06:54:13 PM
FS1 and the Big East cannot be particularly happy...losing Georgetown, St. John's and Villanova in the first 18 hours. Marquette probably the next biggest marquee name left.
Flip side. First four game decided by a total of 11 points. Great atmosphere in MSG. Other than the Big 12, I'm not seeing that in the other leagues so far.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Eldon on March 13, 2014, 08:11:00 PM
And if MU gets to Sat night, I'm leaning towards road tripping to take advantage of them there soft prices.

I'm with you bro
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 14, 2014, 10:44:52 PM
Have to agree with CBB that Creighton is an enjoyable team to watch play basketball.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: WarriorGreg1965 on March 14, 2014, 11:21:56 PM
Have to agree with CBB that Creighton is an enjoyable team to watch play basketball.

Yes, they are.

Very well coached...gets the most out of his talent.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: keefe on March 14, 2014, 11:26:35 PM
Yes, they are.

Very well coached...gets the most out of his talent.

Unlike...?
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2014, 11:50:48 PM
Have to agree with CBB that Creighton is an enjoyable team to watch play basketball.

I hope they go far in the NCAAs to get a chance to watch them shine, but they play a style that can bite them early.  I'll be cheering for them.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: muwarrior97 on March 15, 2014, 12:37:53 AM
When they miss the 3-balls their carriage will turn into a pumpkin, fun to watch when the shots are falling but an off night and Dougie & Co. is done
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 15, 2014, 02:04:32 AM
Cant stand CU, from McDermott to their fans they really annoy me. Ever since they came to the BC I have lost all respect for them.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 15, 2014, 12:15:57 PM
Cant stand CU, from McDermott to their fans they really annoy me. Ever since they came to the BC I have lost all respect for them.

Let me guess......there was one Jays fan who made a funny about how his team was dominating your team and now you hate an entire University and its fanbase.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: willie warrior on March 15, 2014, 12:52:48 PM
I definitely will root for Creighton--except against MU. McDermott is a damn good Coach, and it is good for a fellow Jesuit school to do well.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 15, 2014, 12:58:42 PM
I also enjoy watching CU. And  will enjoy beating the crap out of them in the coming years
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Eldon on March 15, 2014, 05:14:57 PM
Anyone know the over/under on the PC-CU game?  (can't find it online)
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: bradley center bat on March 15, 2014, 05:56:38 PM
I'm pulling for PC,  to get that 4th BE school in.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on March 15, 2014, 08:27:10 PM
Creighton with only 17 points coming up on halftime.
Could be a huge night for the Friars.... or just another page in the tale of McBucketts if he drops 30 in the second half.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on March 15, 2014, 08:31:15 PM
Makes you wonder, what would happen if MU played zone instead of the frenetic switching D that leaves 3-point shooters so open.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 15, 2014, 08:34:43 PM
Our zone defense also sucked ass.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 15, 2014, 08:54:05 PM
Let me guess......there was one Jays fan who made a funny about how his team was dominating your team and now you hate an entire University and its fanbase.

More like every single fan they brought to the BC. Im not gonna bring it up again because I already explained in another thread. PC though is a lot of fun to watch. I love Ed Cooley too.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Eldon on March 15, 2014, 08:59:45 PM
By how much is Creighton favored in this game?
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 15, 2014, 09:04:06 PM
Cotton's a playa, hey?
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Skatastrophy on March 15, 2014, 09:46:30 PM
Grats to the Friars! It's exciting for them to get to the Tourney after such a long drought.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: MURFC on March 15, 2014, 09:50:27 PM
Grats to the Friars! It's exciting for them to get to the Tourney after such a long drought.

Awesome to see PC win the BET.  Somehow feels fitting that a legacy BE team win this years tourney.
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: bradley center bat on March 15, 2014, 10:00:52 PM
By how much is Creighton favored in this game?
7 1/2
Title: Re: Big East Tournamnet Discussion Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 16, 2014, 10:45:05 AM
More like every single fan they brought to the BC. Im not gonna bring it up again because I already explained in another thread. PC though is a lot of fun to watch. I love Ed Cooley too.

Ah, that sucks. Being a common denominator perhaps you brought it out of them?

I went to the game away to Creighton and the people couldn't have been more welcoming. Different folks bring it out perhaps.