Per MU Athletics
Juan has been released to be closer to home.......wow
Rats.
Really like him as a player and I think there is good upside there.
WTF? Better hope neither Blue nor Jamil decide to roll the dice in the draft. Looks like more JUCOs headed our way as we're going to be without some upperclassmen shortly.
Wow. can't blame him at all just a little surprising.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on April 15, 2013, 04:34:56 PM
Rats.
Really like him as a player and I think there is good upside there.
Damn. I loved his energy and passion. Really thought he would have been a heck of a player next year.
Any thoughts on who might be filling his scholly? Tarik Black? Others?
Tarik Black...come on down
Very surprising.
Dammit - I'm a but Juan fan
Sounds like family reasons-
"I really enjoyed my time here and learned a lot that will be beneficial to my life after basketball. My family is very important to me and moving closer to them is something I need to do at this time."
Not too surprised just because he told one of my friends (who is close to him). He's thinking of going back the California.
Not really surprised. He would have to make a nice jump up this summer, which he could do, but if he didn't, he might be 3rd at the PF position. Taylor was already showing as much or more and may be out starter next year. Then a first team Juco coming in would make it tough for Juan. He either had to stay and fight and hope, or cut bait.
This explains our interest in Tarik Black...?
Wow...just wow. Did not see that coming.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on April 15, 2013, 04:40:23 PM
I bet you are. hey-o.
Oh man autocorrect. This would be a pretty interesting way to come out tho.
Good luck, Juan... I'm gay.
I think we all really appreciated Juan's energy and passion, but really not that big of a loss. he's always reminded of Fulce...more of a glue guy. Regardless, this just means more time for Taylor, Mckay, Burton.
Son if a bitch; really though he was going to be a solid core player for the next two years
Man it is a real struggle to build a program these days without guys staying in the team
Damn - really like Juan and he always seemed really into the team on the bench. Thought he could put in some work this offseason and be a really valuable player junior/senior year. Hope he finds a place he can get tons of PT - he deserves it.
This one disappoints me. I believe him when he says he wants to be closer to his family. Good luck, young man.
Seriously not a player on the team I liked more.... but honestly net our talent will be upgraded from this year to next. Hopefully we get a solid Lockett-type guy to fill the spot.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on April 15, 2013, 04:48:46 PM
Damn - really like Juan and he always seemed really into the team on the bench. Thought he could put in some work this offseason and be a really valuable player junior/senior year. Hope he finds a place he can get tons of PT - he deserves it.
He sure does. Plus he'll have an extra year to bulk up in the weight room so I expect him to have success wherever he goes.
Good luck, Juan. Hopefully everything works out for you.
That really sucks.
Juan only played basically the first two minutes of each half towards the end of the season. Probably was not going to change this upcoming season. Wish him the best.
Guess a Cal, San Francisco, Sacramento St., type school.
Does this really surprise anyone? He's a 1st Teamer on the Erik Williams All-Stars.
Quote from: The Lens on April 15, 2013, 04:54:59 PM
Does this really surprise anyone? He's a 1st Teamer on the Erik Williams All-Stars.
Yes. It surprises me. The only think him and EW had in common was that they started the beginning of games. Completely different player...and I think an off season without injuries would have done him a lot of good.
I liked him also. LEt the "BUZZCUTTING " comments begin... :-[
This is disappointing. I really liked the guy and his potential. I know we have a lot coming in at his position, but I also think that competition is good for improving everyone and had hoped for big things from Juan.
Best of luck Juan and I know we all hope you find what you want at your new location.
Quote from: guzica on April 15, 2013, 04:57:40 PM
I liked him also. LEt the "BUZZCUTTING " comments begin... :-[
Cue the idiot badger fans on the JS message board in 3....2....1....
Quote from: guzica on April 15, 2013, 04:57:40 PM
I liked him also. LEt the "BUZZCUTTING " comments begin... :-[
No way he was cut. Buzz seemed to really like him and vice versa.
This is no surprise to me. Juan is clearly being passed up in the depth chart.
EWill started in a similar role before he transferred.
"buzzcutting"? don't we have to have a transfer-in-waiting or something for that to be the case? ridiculous
I am disappointed but nothing surprises me anymore. This won't be seen as a big loss, but he showed a lot of promise early in the season and I thought he could step into the void left by Lockett.
I think Buzz said he was the best student on the team in regard to grade point average.
I thought he was the best teammate - as far as bench enthusiasm.
Good luck Juan
Dammit. I really liked Juan. Really didn't want this to happen. Thought he was coming into his own - but he was going to struggle for minutes next year with an older Steve and especially Jameel.
Now the transfer list becomes intriguing.
Having worked with the team for a bit, I can honestly say there was no better guy than Juan, which makes the transfer tough in that regard. That being said, like Thomas and Ferguson before him, he saw the writing on the wall at his position. I know there's a lot of hype about our recruiting class (deservedly so), but man, these guys must be something to drive so many current players outta the program.
Quote from: Slim on April 15, 2013, 05:01:48 PM
I think Buzz said he was the best student on the team in regard to grade point average.
I thought he was the best teammate - as far as bench enthusiasm.
Good luck Juan
+1. He's gotta look out for himself though. And that means playing time. He would've had to wait till his senior yr to really get a significant amount - and even then not sure if he would've found much more than 16.
I thought Juan still had some upside but I didn't think it was a "sky's the limit" kind of thing.
The fellow Marquette alum I watched most games with really didn't like Juan's game and he must be thrilled right now. I was always saying that I thought Juan had a role and did enough things well to merit 6-10 minutes of PT. I certainly never thought he would be a star.
I'm not stunned by this. Besides wanting to return home, Juan probably didn't think he'd be getting much more PT next year with Jamil, Taylor, Jameel and both centers in the fold.
A.B.R.: Always Be Recruiting!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Really, really, really bummed about this one.
OK, for the schollies open gurus, this leaves one opening left for 2013 right?
So, does Buzz have a 2013 recruit (any top ones left), does he give the open one for Black who can play immediately, or save for 2014?
Andrew Wiggens is still available.
Quote from: nyg on April 15, 2013, 05:08:28 PM
OK, for the schollies open gurus, this leaves one opening left for 2013 right?
So, does Buzz have a 2013 recruit (any top ones left), does he give the open one for Black who can play immediately, or save for 2014?
Andrew Wiggins is available. Hear he's okay.
Quote from: nyg on April 15, 2013, 05:08:28 PM
OK, for the schollies open gurus, this leaves one opening left for 2013 right?
So, does Buzz have a 2013 recruit (any top ones left), does he give the open one for Black who can play immediately, or save for 2014?
No facts here, only opinions... as others have said, I see little value in "saving" a scholarship. Use it on someone, anyone, for a year. Find a project and hope for the best. Or take a flyer on a 1 year transfer. Maybe even a JUCO.
http://marquettetribune.org/2013/04/15/sports/juan-anderson-granted-his-release-will-transfer/
We are one under for 2013.
Getting Black and holding it for 2014 would be my preference...I don't think there is much left we are in on for 2013 unless I am missing on some decommits.
I wouldn't mind a project big man though.
Quote from: Terror Skink on April 15, 2013, 05:11:17 PM
We are one over for 2013.
Getting Black and holding it for 2014 would be my preference...I don't think there is much left we are in on for 2013 unless I am missing on some decommits.
I wouldn't mind a project big man though.
Were actually one under now. With Ferguson and Juan leaving.
Quote from: esard2011 on April 15, 2013, 04:43:00 PM
Wow...just wow. Did not see that coming.
When it comes to players staying or going...nothing surprises me.
Quote from: oneposteagle on April 15, 2013, 04:34:28 PM
Juan has been released to be closer to home.......wow
Just another day in Marquette-landia.
Quote from: esard2011 on April 15, 2013, 05:13:04 PM
Were actually one under now. With Ferguson and Juan leaving.
Thanks. That is what I meant....corrected.
Dammit! Disappointed.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 15, 2013, 05:13:51 PM
When it comes to players staying or going...nothing surprises me.
I read that as of yesterday, 225 college bb players had announced transfers this year so far.
Quote from: esard2011 on April 15, 2013, 05:13:04 PM
Were actually one under now. With Ferguson and Juan leaving.
Have Buzz & Co. been active with any Juco's lately? Ferguson's transfer leaves only one scholarship player (Taylor Jr) in our sophomore class...any noteworthy Juco freshman eligible to sign for 2013 to help balance the classes a bit?
Be great to find a second year big man who could step in with Steve and give us a formidable front court for the next 3 years - perhaps bridge the gap between Oxtule and Diamond Stone????
If Blue comes back he won't see the floor next year. My guess is he'll go mid major. This board does a good job of over inflating worth. He can't shoot, drive or finish real well and wasn't a stand out defender. JJJ would play ahead of him next year. Don't forget when the 3 amigos came to town blakson, smith and 1 other that I can't recall left as well. Writing is on the wall.
Quote from: MU_Iceman on April 15, 2013, 05:17:21 PM
Be great to find a second year big man who could step in with Steve and give us a formidable front court for the next 3 years - perhaps bridge the gap between Oxtule and Diamond Stone????
Heard one just left UWGB.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 15, 2013, 05:18:09 PM
If Blue comes back he won't see the floor next year. My guess is he'll go mid major. This board does a good job of over inflating worth. He can't shoot, drive or finish real well and wasn't a stand out defender. JJJ would play ahead of him next year. Don't forget when the 3 amigos came to town blakson, smith and 1 other that I can't recall left as well. Writing is on the wall.
Good teams need role players, dude. Juan was a perfect one.
That's a shame. I liked him and i thought he was really starting to come around.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 15, 2013, 05:20:57 PM
Good teams need role players, dude. Juan was a perfect one.
That's true but good players who were top 100 or close to it such as Juan don't always want to be role players their whole career. I don't think Juan would have been good enough to warrant minutes over Taylor, McKay, or Jamil Wilson next year. Someone would have been unhappy there. At the same time though, I think he's too good of a talent to sit on the bench all year. A good move to transfer for Juan's basketball career. Whether his basketball career is the reason he transferred or not I don't know. Maybe it was the rough spring weather this year.
Will miss him from a team player and attitude perspective. He did about nothing right on the floor the past month-plus of the season, really seemed there was a lot to change for him to go from a ceiling of role player to a serious contributor. Best of luck to Juan - now we'll see if Buzz can add to the incoming class. Hoping for Black or another one-and-done or Juco transfer in now that we've got an open roster spot - and also hoping there is no more subtractions.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 15, 2013, 05:18:09 PM
If Blue comes back he won't see the floor next year. My guess is he'll go mid major. This board does a good job of over inflating worth. He can't shoot, drive or finish real well and wasn't a stand out defender. JJJ would play ahead of him next year. Don't forget when the 3 amigos came to town blakson, smith and 1 other that I can't recall left as well. Writing is on the wall.
Who are Blakson and Smith? If you're talking about Odartay Blankston he transferred 3 years before the amigos showed up on campus so I'm guessing they didn't have much to do with it.
Wow, I'm shocked. :o
Juan brought some energy, nice he is a great kid, but really can he play? At the end he was afraid to shoot the ball, of course it never went in, so why shoot it. could not finish at the
rim, and next year he might not want to sit on the bench. Burton is a much stronger kid, both have trouble shooting the ball. This really opens up time for Taylor, he is a much better
ball player and I am sure McKay, and Wilson gives you more than enough bigs upfront. 2 centers and 4 forwards. Add Johnson at 6' 6" and you are fine at the position. Buzz wants 13
solid players, but some players want playing time. I am not disappointed he is leaving at all, good luck. Loved his energy!
Quote from: Terror Skink on April 15, 2013, 05:11:17 PM
We are one under for 2013.
Getting Black and holding it for 2014 would be my preference...I don't think there is much left we are in on for 2013 unless I am missing on some decommits.
I wouldn't mind a project big man though.
OR - get Black and convince him to redshirt this year and be the one year stopgap center in 2014 until the twin towers of Ellenson & Stone show up. A guy can dream, right???
Quote from: Skitch on April 15, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Who are Blakson and Smith? If you're talking about Odartay Blankston he transferred 3 years before the amigos showed up on campus so I'm guessing they didn't have much to do with it.
Wasn't Blankson the one who left the year before Wade and Co. went to Final Four? Somehow that sticks in my memory that if he wouldn't have transferred he would have been on that team. He was a very good player.
A few weeks ago I had an interesting conversation with some good friends that are still in college athletics 'biz'. They said some interesting things about transfers in college hoops. One called it an epidemic, the other was close. Said the NCAA is wanting to crack down on it, but it isn't easy.
I asked why all the movement in their opinion. Their belief in their experiences is playing time, but they also said it is because we have let this happen at the High School and AAU level. We encourage kids to quit (move on) from their teams all the time at those levels and transfer to get more PT. It's all about showcasing the athlete and if junior isn't getting enough playing time, he's encouraged to go to the next AAU team or a different high school. Why would it be any different in college when this is what these kids are used to doing? Part of today's environment.
I really enjoyed having a Californian on the squad, which is a rarity. I remember I almost left after freshman year...it's tough being that far from home, but you stick it out. Wish him the best...it won't be the last. Unfortunate the level it has gotten to in college basketball.
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on April 15, 2013, 05:50:04 PM
Wasn't Blankson the one who left the year before Wade and Co. went to Final Four? Somehow that sticks in my memory that if he wouldn't have transferred he would have been on that team. He was a very good player.
Yes he was. And to this day I am convinced that with him we win the whole Freaking thing. Townsend was the only week link in that starting lineup and Blankson would have been in his spot
In reality, I didn't see Juan improving much over the next 2 years, had he'd stayed. He certainly didn't play like a top 100 recruit. This is the best thing for his career moving forward. He would have been a role player at best.
+1 Agree completely. Loved his attitude, great cheerleader but we need guys who can shoot and score and, if he were that "upside" player, we would have seen him bust out in a few games at least and warrant more PT. He is not that player. Best of luck to him.
Wonder if this became a discussion much earlier than any of us heard about it. I thought Juan showed tremendous progress early in the season but plateaued in Feb. Yet he still got more playing time than I thought he showed he proved to have earned on the court. Wonder if Buzz played him more than he might have otherwise, knowing he was going to leave at the end of this season - give him a chance to see the court and have something to show to a school he wanted to transfer to.
In any case, very disappointed to see him go. I am a big fan of his, thought he brought a lot to the team if not as much on the court (and he did contribute there) then certainly on the sidelines, cheering his teammates on. Wish him all the best in his future.
Quote from: 96warrior on April 15, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
Wonder if this became a discussion much earlier than any of us heard about it. I thought Juan showed tremendous progress early in the season but plateaued in Feb. Yet he still got more playing time than I thought he showed he proved to have earned on the court. Wonder if Buzz played him more than he might have otherwise, knowing he was going to leave at the end of this season - give him a chance to see the court and have something to show to a school he wanted to transfer to.
ROFL....yeah and he wanted to screw Ferguson in his transfer by not playing him? What did Juan show to schools in the times that he played that would be valuable besides his hustle?
Good luck Juan! Appreciate your high energy and enthusiasm. You were a good Warrior! Hope you do well in the future.
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 15, 2013, 04:37:41 PM
WTF? Better hope neither Blue nor Jamil decide to roll the dice in the draft. Looks like more JUCOs headed our way as we're going to be without some upperclassmen shortly.
They both need another year.
Quote from: esard2011 on April 15, 2013, 04:43:00 PM
Wow...just wow. Did not see that coming.
Why would you not see that? who were the last two guys that started, played three minutes a half and did not see any other time? They transferred.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 15, 2013, 05:59:40 PM
...it's tough being that far from home, but you stick it out.
.......or for some, you don't.
Quote from: guzica on April 15, 2013, 04:57:40 PM
I liked him also. LEt the "BUZZCUTTING " comments begin... :-[
Exactly!!!
Quote from: Jajuannaman on April 15, 2013, 05:42:49 PM
OR - get Black and convince him to redshirt this year and be the one year stopgap center in 2014 until the twin towers of Ellenson & Stone show up. A guy can dream, right???
No convincing necessary. He'd have to sit out a year as a transfer.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 15, 2013, 06:22:14 PM
No convincing necessary. He'd have to sit out a year as a transfer.
Pretty sure I read he graduated and can play right away ala Lockett.
Quote from: The Lens on April 15, 2013, 04:54:59 PM
Does this really surprise anyone? He's a 1st Teamer on the Erik Williams All-Stars.
Hmmmm.... From two sholaship players too many to about two more needed in 2 weeks. Pretty hard to keep up with this.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 15, 2013, 05:59:40 PM
A few weeks ago I had an interesting conversation with some good friends that are still in college athletics 'biz'. They said some interesting things about transfers in college hoops. One called it an epidemic, the other was close. Said the NCAA is wanting to crack down on it, but it isn't easy.
I asked why all the movement in their opinion. Their belief in their experiences is playing time, but they also said it is because we have let this happen at the High School and AAU level. We encourage kids to quit (move on) from their teams all the time at those levels and transfer to get more PT. It's all about showcasing the athlete and if junior isn't getting enough playing time, he's encouraged to go to the next AAU team or a different high school. Why would it be any different in college when this is what these kids are used to doing? Part of today's environment.
I really enjoyed having a Californian on the squad, which is a rarity. I remember I almost left after freshman year...it's tough being that far from home, but you stick it out. Wish him the best...it won't be the last. Unfortunate the level it has gotten to in college basketball.
Although I understand the thinking, and really wish kids would stick it out for the team.. where's the same opinion about coaches? They get their time in the spotlight AND can leave whenever they want. I'm actually okay with letting a kid leave if they think they deserve the playing time somewhere else (if not at least because he didn't want to be here). It doesn't seem like quite the situation for Juan though, as he seems to want to be closer to family.
Quote from: Archies Bat on April 15, 2013, 05:16:53 PM
I read that as of yesterday, 225 college bb players had announced transfers this year so far.
Wow, and we have had thee of them. With about 300 plus D1 teams, we are over our quota.
I buy the closer to home argument, but beyond that, players want to play. It's why there is so many transfers these days. I think it is fair to say he wasnt going to get much chance to do either if he stayed here.
Good luck to Juan. hope he fonds the right place. Welcome Tarik Black. At this point I think I'd be a bit surprised if he didn't end up here. If so, MU just got better.
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 15, 2013, 06:26:51 PM
Although I understand the thinking, and really wish kids would stick it out for the team.. where's the same opinion about coaches? They get their time in the spotlight AND can leave whenever they want. I'm actually okay with letting a kid leave if they think they deserve the playing time somewhere else (if not at least because he didn't want to be here). It doesn't seem like quite the situation for Juan though, as he seems to want to be closer to family.
Exactly right. I have long thought coaches and players should be bound by the same movement restrictions.
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 15, 2013, 06:26:51 PM
Although I understand the thinking, and really wish kids would stick it out for the team.. where's the same opinion about coaches? They get their time in the spotlight AND can leave whenever they want. I'm actually okay with letting a kid leave if they think they deserve the playing time somewhere else (if not at least because he didn't want to be here). It doesn't seem like quite the situation for Juan though, as he seems to want to be closer to family.
I didn't ask them, but I'm sure the common sense answer is that if you let players move without penalty, you would have mass chaos and teams stacked each year as players were cut on a whim because the guy the next campus over can take his spot without penalty. It would destroy college athletics.
Coaches are employees, student athletes are not.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on April 15, 2013, 06:30:19 PM
Exactly right. I have long thought coaches and players should be bound by the same movement restrictions.
Exactly wrong. Coaches are employees and enjoy the rights of such arrangement. Student athletes are not employees. Thus the restrictions are different.
Think it through for a second what you are really saying, I think you'll come around.
A coach can leave in the middle of a season just like any other employee can. Should a player be able to leave after the 7th game and then play his 8th game down the road for Kentucky? Maybe his 15th game for Tulsa?
Those are the rules going into. Just as players know the rules when they go into and sign a letter of intent.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 15, 2013, 06:16:50 PM
ROFL....yeah and he wanted to screw Ferguson in his transfer by not playing him? What did Juan show to schools in the times that he played that would be valuable besides his hustle?
Ferguson hardly saw the court at all the entire year. Juan saw it quite a bit, and played very well, early on and then seemed to hit his ceiling. Maybe Juan showed more in practice. Far out theory but I did wonder in the past month or so why Juan was getting so much playing time.
If you told me a month ago that three players were going to transfer/leave I would have never believed that T Mayo was not going to be one of them.
I really liked Juan. Only spoke to him for a few minutes but seemed like a quality young man. Wish him all the best.
I just fin this one really odd because it seems like he really loved Marquette. He was always playing pic up backetball games at the rec, he showed up to relay for life just the other day with Vander and D Wil and even his HS jerseys were based off of the MU design. Always liked Juan. Best of luck to him.
Quote from: esard2011 on April 15, 2013, 06:47:07 PM
I just fin this one really odd because it seems like he really loved Marquette. He was always playing pic up backetball games at the rec, he showed up to relay for life just the other day with Vander and D Wil and even his HS jerseys were based off of the MU design. Always liked Juan. Best of luck to him.
Yep, even remember that he was so excited to come to MU (and didn't mind the distance) that he paid his own way to make a trip in to Madness. I suppose things change for every kid between these ages.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 15, 2013, 06:35:35 PM
Exactly wrong. Coaches are employees and enjoy the rights of such arrangement. Student athletes are not employees. Thus the restrictions are different.
Think it through for a second what you are really saying, I think you'll come around.
A coach can leave in the middle of a season just like any other employee can. Should a player be able to leave after the 7th game and then play his 8th game down the road for Kentucky? Maybe his 15th game for Tulsa?
Those are the rules going into. Just as players know the rules when they go into and sign a letter of intent.
Fine. They know the rules going in. Doesn't mean those rules are fair or appropriate. Never said you can't put limits on it, but they should be the same. If players need to sit out a year, coaches should have to sit out a year. If coaches can move from one school to another between seasons, players should be able to do the same. The current eligibility/graduation rule is at least a step in the right direction.
As usual, your concern is focused on yourself/the college BBall fan, vs. the players who make it all happen. Anyway, not the topic, so i wont argue further. you are free to have the last word.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on April 15, 2013, 06:28:39 PM
I buy the closer to home argument, but beyond that, players want to play. It's why there is so many transfers these days. I think it is fair to say he wasnt going to get much chance to do either if he stayed here.
Good luck to Juan. hope he fonds the right place. Welcome Tarik Black. At this point I think I'd be a bit surprised if he didn't end up here. If so, MU just got better.
Why is that?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 15, 2013, 06:35:35 PM
Exactly wrong. Coaches are employees and enjoy the rights of such arrangement. Student athletes are not employees. Thus the restrictions are different.
Think it through for a second what you are really saying, I think you'll come around.
A coach can leave in the middle of a season just like any other employee can. Should a player be able to leave after the 7th game and then play his 8th game down the road for Kentucky? Maybe his 15th game for Tulsa?
Those are the rules going into. Just as players know the rules when they go into and sign a letter of intent.
Just because a system is in place, doesn't mean it's the most fair system. It also doesn't mean that system doesn't need tweaking when it's obvious that the balance is skewed.
Quote from: mr.MUskie on April 15, 2013, 06:51:30 PM
Why is that?
Nothing more than smoke = fire, given the situation, history, etc. I don't know that it's going to happen by any means, but simply will be mildly surprised if it doesn't. That's all.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on April 15, 2013, 06:51:10 PM
Fine. They know the rules going in. Doesn't mean those rules are fair or appropriate. Never said you can't put limits on it, but they should be the same. If players need to sit out a year, coaches should have to sit out a year. If coaches can move from one school to another between seasons, players should be able to do the same. The current eligibility/graduation rule is at least a step in the right direction.
As usual, your concern is focused on yourself/the college BBall fan, vs. the players who make it all happen. Anyway, not the topic, so i wont argue further. you are free to have the last word.
Lots of rules are deemed unfair. Why do I have to pay taxes at a higher rate than someone else? Why do some people pay no taxes at all? Why can some NFL players leave in free agency while others are franchised? We could play that game until the cows come home. Them is the rules. Now, I don't disagree with you if we think they are wrong, unfair, etc, then change them but my guess is that is going nowhere.
Why are you applying the same standard for two different groups. A coach is an employee. A student athlete is not. Why should the rules be the same?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 15, 2013, 06:32:41 PM
I didn't ask them, but I'm sure the common sense answer is that if you let players move without penalty, you would have mass chaos and teams stacked each year as players were cut on a whim because the guy the next campus over can take his spot without penalty. It would destroy college athletics.
Coaches are employees, student athletes are not.
I never said the players should be able to move without penalty. But why should coaches get free reign to abandon kids/schools when it suits them, but players are vilified if they leave for a better opportunity (not to mention punishing them for trying to better their situation) or even if they leave due to serious reasons (family issues, etc.)
re-read the release from MU. for once, they state the truth in a release.
This isn't a buzzcut in any way, shape or form.
I'll just echo what everyone else is saying.
Really sad to see this kid go. His energy was infectious and it really seemed like he loved MU. Everything i heard about him suggested that he displayed qualities that deserved a lot of respect, such as his work ethic, character, personality, and focus on academics. I want people who represent Marquette (athletes and non-athletes) to hold these qualities.
Regarding his basketball ability, i don't think we are losing a ton, but i do think we are losing something good. Did i see him being an amazing player in his time here? No. But i think he could have shaped up to be a pretty darn good player that i wouldn't mind having on the roster.
That said, i recognize that he had to do what is best for him. Whether he wanted to be closer to family or simply wanted more playing time, i understand. And i sincerely wish him the best because he seemed like a great kid and he represented our program very well.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on April 15, 2013, 06:51:10 PM
The current eligibility/graduation rule is at least a step in the right direction.
Ironic you say that as the NCAA is trying to get rid of this "loophole"
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 15, 2013, 06:59:19 PM
Why are you applying the same standard for two different groups. A coach is an employee. A student athlete is not.
They should be. That's the problem. I hear all the time how they don't need to be paid, because they are richly rewarded with scholarship, etc. so which is it?
Rules are rules doesn't fly with me. But again, we've had this discussion before. This thread can remain about Juan Anderson (and dare I say Tarik Black).
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 15, 2013, 07:03:51 PM
Ironic you say that as the NCAA is trying to get rid of this "loophole"
I know. Must be working out to well for the players, and cutting into the coaches/universities business.
What does Paint Touches know? Maybe a fourth transfer about to happen? Attached is a tweet from about 6:40pm (CDST).
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 15, 2013, 07:09:07 PM
What does Paint Touches know? Maybe a fourth transfer about to happen? Attached is a tweet from about 6:40pm (CDST).
Sounds to me more like an addition soon to come.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on April 15, 2013, 07:14:50 PM
Sounds to me more like an addition soon to come.
Could be either an addition or subtraction, we'll see. I'm just shocked that all of these transfers are coming right before possibly one of the best seasons of this school's history. If someone (probably would be Mayo) leaves, we need to add a transfer before next season.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 15, 2013, 07:09:07 PM
What does Paint Touches know? Maybe a fourth transfer about to happen? Attached is a tweet from about 6:40pm (CDST).
Going into this offseason Mayo seemed to be the most obvious one to transfer...he hasn't yet.
Here's the beauty of a player like Juan leavin'. The upgrade in roster talent is happenin'. If you want to piss with the blue bloods and play deep into March or April, you have to bring in better talent than Juan and Ferguson. Nice guys and such, but I said midway through the season that better players are needed. 3 star dudes can only get you so far regardless of the coach. I view this as an extremely positive move for the program. Buzz just needs to seal the deal with some 5 stars now and the momentum will snowball.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on April 15, 2013, 07:19:40 PM
I'm just shocked that all of these transfers are coming right before possibly one of the best seasons of this school's history.
Shouldn't be shocking. Players wanna play. Nobody who has left was really going to do so at MU.
Maybe Ox and Otule are locked in a fierce game of dominoes... Someone from paint touches just happened to see it in progress.
So once again there's a scholarship available for Jake Thomas.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 15, 2013, 07:21:09 PM
Here's the beauty of a player like Juan leavin'. The upgrade in roster talent is happenin'. If you want to piss with the blue bloods and play deep into March or April, you have to bring in better talent than Juan and Ferguson. Nice guys and such, but I said midway through the season that better players are needed. 3 star dudes can only get you so far regardless of the coach. I view this as an extremely positive move for the program. Buzz just needs to seal the deal with some 5 stars now and the momentum will snowball.
+1. Nailed it.
So after these recent events the depth chart now IMO will look like
1) Duane/Derrick/Dawson
2) Blue/JJJ/Mayo
3) Jamil/Burton/any of the 2 guards can play here in a small lineup w/ Jamil at the 4
4) Steve/McKay/Jamil
5) Oxtule
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 15, 2013, 07:21:09 PM
Here's the beauty of a player like Juan leavin'. The upgrade in roster talent is happenin'. If you want to piss with the blue bloods and play deep into March or April, you have to bring in better talent than Juan and Ferguson. Nice guys and such, but I said midway through the season that better players are needed. 3 star dudes can only get you so far regardless of the coach. I view this as an extremely positive move for the program. Buzz just needs to seal the deal with some 5 stars now and the momentum will snowball.
Maybe. Kentucky had a bunch of 5 stars and went to the NIT. Then again, the year prior they won it all.
If you're ok with heavy roster turnover it can work, but UNC was decked with 5 stars, UCLA, etc...all did so-so. I get where you are coming from, but there are tradeoffs as well.
This one is not a surprise for me.
Best of luck to Juan.
Anyone know of a very good point guard who's eligible to play right away?
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 15, 2013, 07:59:19 PM
Anyone know of a very good point guard who's eligible to play right away?
Yes, Duane Wilson
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 15, 2013, 07:42:55 PM
Maybe. Kentucky had a bunch of 5 stars and went to the NIT. Then again, the year prior they won it all.
If you're ok with heavy roster turnover it can work, but UNC was decked with 5 stars, UCLA, etc...all did so-so. I get where you are coming from, but there are tradeoffs as well.
Obviously, there are trade offs and it's extremely hard to be great year in and year out when you lose so many players. However, Buzz has upgraded the talent very fast over the last 3 years. We have a lot of transfers because they don't see playing time for themselves in the future. Hopefully in the next couple years we start to see that level off a bit.
I would strive to be like Kansas and Duke. Self and K have mastered the art of putting together a top 10-15 roster every year because they know how to combine the 5 star one and done talent with 3 and 4 year players.
Not surprised at all, heard rumor last offseason he was close to transfering.
Anyone shocked at a transfer needs to wake up. Approx 300 players announced they are transfering in last 4 weeks.
Quote from: Waryours on April 15, 2013, 08:09:10 PM
Yes, Duane Wilson
The best thing about freshman is they become sophomores. There is a big adjustment period, especially if you are not a top 5-10 recruit. The beginning of next year will most likely be rough and i can just hear everyone saying how Duane isn't what he was supposed to be.
Quote from: MUDish on April 15, 2013, 08:17:49 PM
Not surprised at all, heard rumor last offseason he was close to transfering.
Anyone shocked at a transfer needs to wake up. Approx 300 players announced they are transfering in last 4 weeks.
I thought Buzz was being smart by starting him and that would keep him from transferrring. I enjpoyed watching Anderson. It also hurts the vision I had of next years press. There would of been an extreme amount of quickness on the floor with Juan, McKay, J. Wilson, Blue and Duane Wilson.
Larry Williams must be pissed be took that Brewers ticket
I agree, but the best thing about Duane Wilson is his versitality. He can shoot (60%, 55% from 3), beat the defender on the dribble both to the left and right, and can absolutely soar. If he was located in Chicago or New York he would be top 10 hands down. I think MU landed the golden ticket with Duane.
Gonna miss Juan.
Showed MAD love for MU as a kid from the East Bay.
Energy...occasional three point shots...offensive rebounding...always around the glass...
But more importantly, there was a (fun) chemistry he facilitated with the backcourt fellas.
If he was able to put on more muscle, he would've been a great player the last two years.
But the minutes aren't there for him and he did seem to miss home/family.
I truly wish him the best. One of my faves under Buzz no doubt.
Quote from: Abode4life on April 15, 2013, 08:22:45 PM
The best thing about freshman is they become sophomores. There is a big adjustment period, especially if you are not a top 5-10 recruit. The beginning of next year will most likely be rough and i can just hear everyone saying how Duane isn't what he was supposed to be.
Quote from: Waryours on April 15, 2013, 08:35:06 PM
I agree, but the best thing about Duane Wilson is his versitality. He can shoot (60%, 55% from 3), beat the defender on the dribble both to the left and right, and can absolutely soar. If he was located in Chicago or New York he would be top 10 hands down. I think MU landed the golden ticket with Duane.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 15, 2013, 05:59:40 PM
A few weeks ago I had an interesting conversation with some good friends that are still in college athletics 'biz'. They said some interesting things about transfers in college hoops. One called it an epidemic, the other was close. Said the NCAA is wanting to crack down on it, but it isn't easy.
I asked why all the movement in their opinion. Their belief in their experiences is playing time, but they also said it is because we have let this happen at the High School and AAU level. We encourage kids to quit (move on) from their teams all the time at those levels and transfer to get more PT. It's all about showcasing the athlete and if junior isn't getting enough playing time, he's encouraged to go to the next AAU team or a different high school. Why would it be any different in college when this is what these kids are used to doing? Part of today's environment.
I really enjoyed having a Californian on the squad, which is a rarity. I remember I almost left after freshman year...it's tough being that far from home, but you stick it out. Wish him the best...it won't be the last. Unfortunate the level it has gotten to in college basketball.
Sorry - but I think this is total crap. Committing isnt a 4 year buy-in. I don't think you need to "stick it out" when things aren't working out. If you insist on comparing a basketball player's transfer to your college experience in any way (which is ludicrous to begin with) imagine you couldn't get any of the classes in your major at Marquette, but then found out you could get those classes at a place that is familiar and close to home. Face it - for basketball players, playing time is a lot like classes in a major - its the reason you are there. We can debate whether or not thats appropriate all we want, but its true. By this time, Juan thought he was going to be transitioning into a featured role on the team, and he hasn't. Its not like he hasn't paid his dues - by all accounts he's been one of the hardest working, most team-oriented and energetic players on the roster. But its not working out.
To then take that, and apply some confirmation-bias horse$hit about the plague of the entitlement generation and whatever other narrative Juan Anderson's transfer fits for you is bull. Guy came here for two years and gave everything he had. Worked through injury and was always the biggest cheerleader on the bench. He didn't leave because he couldnt "tough it out." This isnt like you being a homesick Californian (who I should mention has since moved back there). This is a guy who came to MU for a very particular reason, which shows few signs of developing as the way he (and Buzz) envisioned. He's likely going to end up at a California school (maybe even one similar to MU ala LMU, etc) where he plays, is close to his family, etc. He took a chance coming to MU and putting everything he had into it to begin with. That was a brave thing to do. He gave half of his college experience to trying to make that work out. If you reevaluate that choice halfway through and decide that you are likely to get the things you want out of the last couple years closer to home - leaving your friends and teammates of the last two years to pursue that is brave too. Not a product of entitlement. This isnt a Jeronne freaking Maymon situation.
True. Juan gave everything he had on the floor. But, the cold truth is that he had trouble scoring; he had trouble driving to the hoop; he had trouble playing at the Big E level of basketball. He may be a much better player at a lower level.
No one else thought immediately of Vander when PaintTouches tweeted out "more dominoes to fall"? Would love to see Tarik Black in blue and gold but we're pretty well off at center right now.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 15, 2013, 06:22:14 PM
No convincing necessary. He'd have to sit out a year as a transfer.
Nah, he's eligible right away like Lockett. However, it would be in his best interests (a.k.a. MY best interests) for him to take a year to learn Buzz' system then reap the rewards of 40 open minutes in the post starting fall of 2014. It makes way too much sense for him (again, when I say him I mean me). This has to happen. Or maybe Self leaves for an NBA job, then Embiid reopens his recruitment and we pay KU back for Tyshawn while adding the missing piece to a championship run in spring of 2015? I'd take that too!
Quote from: Jajuannaman on April 15, 2013, 09:39:01 PM
Nah, he's eligible right away like Lockett. However, it would be in his best interests (a.k.a. MY best interests) for him to take a year to learn Buzz' system then reap the rewards of 40 open minutes in the post starting fall of 2014. It makes way too much sense for him (again, when I say him I mean me). This has to happen. Or maybe Self leaves for an NBA job, then Embiid reopens his recruitment and we pay KU back for Tyshawn while adding the missing piece to a championship run in spring of 2015? I'd take that too!
Or both. We would need an extra scholarship, and Buzz could adopt one of them. ;)
Miss a little miss a lot. Just got the news. I will miss Juan's enthusiasm and the fact that he seemed to be a good teammate and MU rep. On the BBall court, I'll let you know after I see what Buzz does with hios scvhollie.
Quote from: chapman on April 15, 2013, 09:47:27 PM
Or both. We would need an extra scholarship, and Buzz could adopt one of them. ;)
I'll do the legwork getting the proper papers filed. Pro bono, no less. I'm just that kinda guy when it comes to MU hoops. You can all thank me later.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 15, 2013, 07:09:07 PM
What does Paint Touches know? Maybe a fourth transfer about to happen? Attached is a tweet from about 6:40pm (CDST).
Sweet merciful christ don't let it be Steve Taylor! I'm literally a figurative glass case of emotions right now!!!
Quote from: Abode4life on April 15, 2013, 08:22:45 PM
The best thing about freshman is they become sophomores. There is a big adjustment period, especially if you are not a top 5-10 recruit. The beginning of next year will most likely be rough and i can just hear everyone saying how Duane isn't what he was supposed to be.
Agree, but the game has definitely changed in the last 30+ yrs since Al said this (I believe this was his quote).
Freshman have contributed much more in recent history. Especially second half of the season. Not being able to go pro out of high school obvi is a factor with better talent.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 15, 2013, 07:21:09 PM
Here's the beauty of a player like Juan leavin'. The upgrade in roster talent is happenin'. If you want to piss with the blue bloods and play deep into March or April, you have to bring in better talent than Juan and Ferguson. Nice guys and such, but I said midway through the season that better players are needed. 3 star dudes can only get you so far regardless of the coach. I view this as an extremely positive move for the program. Buzz just needs to seal the deal with some 5 stars now and the momentum will snowball.
Wrong. Don't misunderstand me, MU will be just fine. But good teams that go deep into March need pieces. Four 5-star freshman every year doesn't win championships. It can, but its quite a gamble even if your Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, etc. who actually have the ability to go out and get a few 5-stars every year.
Marquette went to the Elite 8 this year because they had SEVERAL pieces that together figured out how to win games. It wasn't always pretty, and Juan was one of the least pretty on the team, but it works. It is how you win championships.
Juan will be missed, but I see this as more minutes for Steve Taylor at the 4, who is a better player. Best of luck to you where ever you land, Juan. I will sure be following how you do.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 15, 2013, 08:35:15 PM
Gonna miss Juan.
Showed MAD love for MU as a kid from the East Bay.
Energy...occasional three point shots...offensive rebounding...always around the glass...
But more importantly, there was a (fun) chemistry he facilitated with the backcourt fellas.
If he was able to put on more muscle, he would've been a great player the last two years.
But the minutes aren't there for him and he did seem to miss home/family.
I truly wish him the best. One of my faves under Buzz no doubt.
+ 100. Couldn't have summarized it better myself.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 15, 2013, 10:47:36 PM
Wrong. Don't misunderstand me, MU will be just fine. But good teams that go deep into March need pieces. Four 5-star freshman every year doesn't win championships. It can, but its quite a gamble even if your Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, etc. who actually have the ability to go out and get a few 5-stars every year.
Marquette went to the Elite 8 this year because they had SEVERAL pieces that together figured out how to win games. It wasn't always pretty, and Juan was one of the least pretty on the team, but it works. It is how you win championships.
Juan will be missed, but I see this as more minutes for Steve Taylor at the 4, who is a better player. Best of luck to you where ever you land, Juan. I will sure be following how you do.
We made the Elite 8 once in like the last 10 years.... "Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, etc." have much more consistent success than us with 5 stars and One and Done players. We EASILY could have exited the first round this year. Most people around the country thought we were lucky to have made it to the Elite 8. Even when we got to the Elite 8, we were WAY out of our league!
Bottom line is Juan was not that good and he was not even anywhere close to meeting his expectations as a top 100 recruit. This should not be of a surprise to anyone. if it is, your lying to yourself. It is in his best interest to go somewhere else, or he will have the same numbers over his last 2 years!
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 15, 2013, 10:56:46 PM
We made the Elite 8 once in like the last 10 years.... "Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, etc." have much more consistent success than us with 5 stars and One and Done players. We EASILY could have exited the first round this year. Most people around the country thought we were lucky to have made it to the Elite 8. Even when we got to the Elite 8, we were WAY out of our league!
Bottom line is Juan was not that good and he was not even anywhere close to meeting his expectations as a top 100 recruit. This should not be of a surprise to anyone. if it is, your lying to yourself. It is in his best interest to go somewhere else, or he will have the same numbers over his last 2 years!
You're missing the point. Good teams need contributors. Upperclassmen who have worked for their PT and who want to win more than anything. Juan would have been just that. Buzz has said that Juan was the hardest practice player he has ever coached and that is why he started. He would have continued to develop into a player that great teams need.
Don't get me wrong, 5 star players year in and year out would be great and Buzz is well on his way there. But suggesting that the transition must be instantaneous is ridiculous.
Juan will be missed, but again very excited to see Stevie Taylor beastin' the middle of the court next year.
I don't get why people are surprised or disappointed. I like Juan but were too loaded. Now we start Chris jameel and Jamil 3-5. Then have Ox and Steve off bench at 4-5. And Jujuan and Todd for the 3 since vander ain't coming off court.
Juan is the type of role player you love to have in the program for 4 years. Hard-working, smart, enthusiastic. Does a lot of the little things well, but isn't a star. Fulce was very similar, but I think Juan has a higher ceiling. There's always room for a guy like that on your team.
Definitely wanted him finish up at MU, but I don't blame him one bit for wanting to go home and be with family right now. He's a very easy kid to root for, and I wish him the best.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 15, 2013, 11:05:40 PM
You're missing the point. Good teams need contributors. Upperclassmen who have worked for their PT and who want to win more than anything. Juan would have been just that. Buzz has said that Juan was the hardest practice player he has ever coached and that is why he started. He would have continued to develop into a player that great teams need.
Don't get me wrong, 5 star players year in and year out would be great and Buzz is well on his way there. But suggesting that the transition must be instantaneous is ridiculous.
Juan will be missed, but again very excited to see Stevie Taylor beastin' the middle of the court next year.
What is Juan contributing that we couldn't replace? I am not suggesting it is instantaneous, I am just saying that Juan was not going to improve much if he stayed. He likely would have been buried on the bench.
Look at the top teams contributors (Mich: Spike Albrecht, Louisville: Hancock, Cuse: Grant, etc.) . They are way more productive and will occasionally have a break out game and show potential. Be real with yourself. Juan was a great guy, but he was not going to be a significant contributor. It just didn't work out for him here.
Give me talent over pieces, every time. The coach is already in place here. With better talent, we're goin' uptown.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 16, 2013, 04:49:40 AM
Give me talent over pieces, every time. The coach is already in place here. With better talent, we're goin' uptown.
Still got to have a good piece now and again
I'm surprised he is leaving, just because he didn't behave like a kid who was thinking about transferring. But I certainly understand why he is doing it. Forget the new guys, Steve Taylor has to see significant minutes next season or we risk alienating him, and that would be a much bigger problem. I imagine Anderson saw the writing on the wall, that his role next season would not expand at all, leaving him just a senior season to get minutes, and even that was not guaranteed.
I like Anderson as an energy guy and rebounder, but not as a guy who was going to be on the floor when the game was on the line. Seems to me that he is a great kid, a hard worker, and will be a credit to whatever school he decides to attend. Wish him well and I'm sure he will do well where ever he ends up.
Loved Juan's enthusiasm, but thought he could've used a redshirt year to build up his strength. I think his shoulder injuries have hampered his development. Now he'll have a year to do just that.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on April 15, 2013, 10:33:38 PM
Sweet merciful christ don't let it be Steve Taylor! I'm literally a figurative glass case of emotions right now!!!
If another player leaves, there has to be something going on in Buzz's program. Practice performance must not be equalling to playing time, or something. Might be time to get a little nervous. These freshmen better be ready next year.
Thank U Juan for a great 2 yrs, may God bless all your future endeavors!!!
Wow - didn't see this last night with all the tragedy at the race. Sorry to see this. Juan had something about him that made him very likeable. But, the development didn't seem to be happening - he looked tentative on offense and still had trouble keeping track of his man on D. He likely perceived limited upside here given who's coming. Life is short, college is shorter - go for it, Jaun, and best of luck.
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on April 16, 2013, 07:46:14 AM
If another player leaves, there has to be something going on in Buzz's program. Practice performance must not be equalling to playing time, or something. Might be time to get a little nervous. These freshmen better be ready next year.
I don't think so. Sure, it gets your attention - "Marquette losing THREE players now due to transfer". But, let's look at those.
The first two weren't surprises. Everyone figured Jamal would leave due to how the season (didn't) pan out for him. Jake leaving was pretty much in the cards as well. This one is a little surprising, but when you consider where he's from (CA), then it makes more sense to leave from a geographical purpose.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on April 16, 2013, 08:02:23 AM
I don't think so. Sure, it gets your attention - "Marquette losing THREE players now due to transfer". But, let's look at those.
The first two weren't surprises. Everyone figured Jamal would leave due to how the season (didn't) pan out for him. Jake leaving was pretty much in the cards as well. This one is a little surprising, but when you consider where he's from (CA), then it makes more sense to leave from a geographical purpose.
Right. Plus, look around, this is the landscape of college basketball now. No need to get the panties in a bunch yet.
Quote from: hairyworthen on April 16, 2013, 07:01:29 AM
Still got to have a good piece now and again
No argument there, Bro.
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on April 16, 2013, 07:46:14 AM
If another player leaves, there has to be something going on in Buzz's program. Practice performance must not be equalling to playing time, or something. Might be time to get a little nervous. These freshmen better be ready next year.
Yeah, right. Jamal Ferguson, Jake Thomas and Juan Anderson were kickin' Van's, Trent's and Jamil's backsides in practice but Buzz wouldn't let them on the floor. Did you watch any of our games last year?
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on April 16, 2013, 07:46:14 AM
If another player leaves, there has to be something going on in Buzz's program. Practice performance must not be equalling to playing time, or something. Might be time to get a little nervous. These freshmen better be ready next year.
Cuckoo. Cuckoo. Cuckoo.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on April 15, 2013, 10:33:38 PM
I'm literally a figurative glass case of emotions right now all the time!!!
FIFY
Quote from: I don't care on April 15, 2013, 08:13:07 PM
I would strive to be like Kansas and Duke. Self and K have mastered the art of putting together a top 10-15 roster every year because they know how to combine the 5 star one and done talent with 3 and 4 year players.
I agree entirely with this approach, if it can be pulled off. You need a few 3 and 4 star players for continuity. There is only one basketball and sometimes you get too many 5's looking for a paycheck the following year means they don't succeed as a unit.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 15, 2013, 05:08:04 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Really, really, really bummed about this one.
Hey, you're still three for five.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 16, 2013, 04:49:40 AM
Give me talent over pieces, every time. The coach is already in place here. With better talent, we're goin' uptown.
Spoken like a true vet of the Al era.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 16, 2013, 11:22:44 AM
Spoken like a true vet of the Al era.
One Blue chipper a year and the senior star system!
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on April 16, 2013, 09:05:31 AM
Cuckoo. Cuckoo. Cuckoo.
+1000
Over 400 players transferred last year. Most likely more will transfer this year. Transfers are not endemic of a program, but rather the trend in college basketball as a whole.