Juan transferring

[onepost]

No one else thought immediately of Vander when PaintTouches tweeted out "more dominoes to fall"? Would love to see Tarik Black in blue and gold but we're pretty well off at center right now.

[Silkk the Shaka]

No convincing necessary. He'd have to sit out a year as a transfer.

Nah, he's eligible right away like Lockett.  However, it would be in his best interests (a.k.a. MY best interests) for him to take a year to learn Buzz' system then reap the rewards of 40 open minutes in the post starting fall of 2014.  It makes way too much sense for him (again, when I say him I mean me).  This has to happen.  Or maybe Self leaves for an NBA job, then Embiid reopens his recruitment and we pay KU back for Tyshawn while adding the missing piece to a championship run in spring of 2015?  I'd take that too!

[chapman]

Nah, he's eligible right away like Lockett.  However, it would be in his best interests (a.k.a. MY best interests) for him to take a year to learn Buzz' system then reap the rewards of 40 open minutes in the post starting fall of 2014.  It makes way too much sense for him (again, when I say him I mean me).  This has to happen.  Or maybe Self leaves for an NBA job, then Embiid reopens his recruitment and we pay KU back for Tyshawn while adding the missing piece to a championship run in spring of 2015?  I'd take that too!

Or both.  We would need an extra scholarship, and Buzz could adopt one of them.   

[LloydMooresLegs]

 Miss a little miss a lot.  Just got the news.  I will miss Juan's enthusiasm and the fact that he seemed to be a good teammate and MU rep.  On the BBall court, I'll let you know after I see what Buzz does with hios scvhollie.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Or both.  We would need an extra scholarship, and Buzz could adopt one of them.   

I'll do the legwork getting the proper papers filed.  Pro bono, no less.  I'm just that kinda guy when it comes to MU hoops.  You can all thank me later.

[Silkk the Shaka]

What does Paint Touches know?  Maybe a fourth transfer about to happen?  Attached is a tweet from about 6:40pm (CDST).

Sweet merciful christ don't let it be Steve Taylor!  I'm literally a figurative glass case of emotions right now!!!

[muvanwilder]

The best thing about freshman is they become sophomores.  There is a big adjustment period, especially if you are not a top 5-10 recruit.  The beginning of next year will most likely be rough and i can just hear everyone saying how Duane isn't what he was supposed to be.

Agree, but the game has definitely changed in the last 30+ yrs since Al said this (I believe this was his quote).
Freshman have contributed much more in recent history.  Especially second half of the season.  Not being able to go pro out of high school obvi is a factor with better talent.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Here's the beauty of a player like Juan leavin'. The upgrade in roster talent is happenin'. If you want to piss with the blue bloods and play deep into March or April, you have to bring in better talent than Juan and Ferguson. Nice guys and such, but I said midway through the season that better players are needed. 3 star dudes can only get you so far regardless of the coach. I view this as an extremely positive move for the program. Buzz just needs to seal the deal with some 5 stars now and the momentum will snowball.

Wrong.  Don't misunderstand me, MU will be just fine.  But good teams that go deep into March need pieces.  Four 5-star freshman every year doesn't win championships. It can, but its quite a gamble even if your Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, etc. who actually have the ability to go out and get a few 5-stars every year.

Marquette went to the Elite 8 this year because they had SEVERAL pieces that together figured out how to win games. It wasn't always pretty, and Juan was one of the least pretty on the team, but it works. It is how you win championships.

Juan will be missed, but I see this as more minutes for Steve Taylor at the 4, who is a better player. Best of luck to you where ever you land, Juan. I will sure be following how you do.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Gonna miss Juan.

Showed MAD love for MU as a kid from the East Bay.

Energy...occasional three point shots...offensive rebounding...always around the glass...
But more importantly, there was a (fun) chemistry he facilitated with the backcourt fellas.

If he was able to put on more muscle, he would've been a great player the last two years.

But the minutes aren't there for him and he did seem to miss home/family.

I truly wish him the best. One of my faves under Buzz no doubt.

+ 100. Couldn't have summarized it better myself.

[Rockmic87]

Wrong.  Don't misunderstand me, MU will be just fine.  But good teams that go deep into March need pieces.  Four 5-star freshman every year doesn't win championships. It can, but its quite a gamble even if your Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, etc. who actually have the ability to go out and get a few 5-stars every year.

Marquette went to the Elite 8 this year because they had SEVERAL pieces that together figured out how to win games. It wasn't always pretty, and Juan was one of the least pretty on the team, but it works. It is how you win championships.

Juan will be missed, but I see this as more minutes for Steve Taylor at the 4, who is a better player. Best of luck to you where ever you land, Juan. I will sure be following how you do.

We made the Elite 8 once in like the last 10 years.... "Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, etc." have much more consistent success than us with 5 stars and One and Done players. We EASILY could have exited the first round this year. Most people around the country thought we were lucky to have made it to the Elite 8. Even when we got to the Elite 8, we were WAY out of our league!

Bottom line is Juan was not that good and he was not even anywhere close to meeting his expectations as a top 100 recruit. This should not be of a surprise to anyone. if it is, your lying to yourself. It is in his best interest to go somewhere else, or he will have the same numbers over his last 2 years!

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

We made the Elite 8 once in like the last 10 years.... "Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, etc." have much more consistent success than us with 5 stars and One and Done players. We EASILY could have exited the first round this year. Most people around the country thought we were lucky to have made it to the Elite 8. Even when we got to the Elite 8, we were WAY out of our league!

Bottom line is Juan was not that good and he was not even anywhere close to meeting his expectations as a top 100 recruit. This should not be of a surprise to anyone. if it is, your lying to yourself. It is in his best interest to go somewhere else, or he will have the same numbers over his last 2 years!

You're missing the point. Good teams need contributors. Upperclassmen who have worked for their PT and who want to win more than anything. Juan would have been just that. Buzz has said that Juan was the hardest practice player he has ever coached and that is why he started.  He would have continued to develop into a player that great teams need.

Don't get me wrong, 5 star players year in and year out would be great and Buzz is well on his way there.  But suggesting that the transition must be instantaneous is ridiculous.

Juan will be missed, but again very excited to see Stevie Taylor beastin' the middle of the court next year.

[PGsHeroes32]

I don't get why people are surprised or disappointed. I like Juan but were too loaded. Now we start Chris jameel and Jamil 3-5. Then have Ox and Steve off bench at 4-5. And Jujuan and Todd for the 3 since vander ain't coming off court.

[MUfan12]

Juan is the type of role player you love to have in the program for 4 years. Hard-working, smart, enthusiastic. Does a lot of the little things well, but isn't a star. Fulce was very similar, but I think Juan has a higher ceiling. There's always room for a guy like that on your team.

Definitely wanted him finish up at MU, but I don't blame him one bit for wanting to go home and be with family right now. He's a very easy kid to root for, and I wish him the best.

[Rockmic87]

You're missing the point. Good teams need contributors. Upperclassmen who have worked for their PT and who want to win more than anything. Juan would have been just that. Buzz has said that Juan was the hardest practice player he has ever coached and that is why he started.  He would have continued to develop into a player that great teams need.

Don't get me wrong, 5 star players year in and year out would be great and Buzz is well on his way there.  But suggesting that the transition must be instantaneous is ridiculous.

Juan will be missed, but again very excited to see Stevie Taylor beastin' the middle of the court next year.

What is Juan contributing that we couldn't replace? I am not suggesting it is instantaneous, I am just saying that Juan was not going to improve much if he stayed. He likely would have been buried on the bench.

Look at the top teams contributors (Mich: Spike Albrecht, Louisville: Hancock, Cuse: Grant, etc.) . They are way more productive and will occasionally have a break out game and show potential. Be real with yourself. Juan was a great guy, but he was not going to be a significant contributor. It just didn't work out for him here.

[4everwarriors]

Give me talent over pieces, every time. The coach is already in place here. With better talent, we're goin' uptown.

[hairy worthen]

Give me talent over pieces, every time. The coach is already in place here. With better talent, we're goin' uptown.

Still got to have a good piece now and again

[CTWarrior]

I'm surprised he is leaving, just because he didn't behave like a kid who was thinking about transferring.  But I certainly understand why he is doing it.  Forget the new guys, Steve Taylor has to see significant minutes next season or we risk alienating him, and that would be a much bigger problem.  I imagine Anderson saw the writing on the wall, that his role next season would not expand at all, leaving him just a senior season to get minutes, and even that was not guaranteed.

I like Anderson as an energy guy and rebounder, but not as a guy who was going to be on the floor when the game was on the line.  Seems to me that he is a great kid, a hard worker, and will be a credit to whatever school he decides to attend.  Wish him well and I'm sure he will do well where ever he ends up.

[oshkoshbgosh]

Loved Juan's enthusiasm, but thought he could've used a redshirt year to build up his strength. I think his shoulder injuries have hampered his development. Now he'll have a year to do just that.

[Sunbelt15]

Sweet merciful christ don't let it be Steve Taylor!  I'm literally a figurative glass case of emotions right now!!!

If another player leaves, there has to be something going on in Buzz's program. Practice performance must not be equalling to playing time, or something. Might be time to get a little nervous. These freshmen better be ready next year.

[MUWarrior4Life]

Thank U Juan for a great 2 yrs, may God bless all your future endeavors!!!

[mileskishnish72]

Wow - didn't see this last night with all the tragedy at the race. Sorry to see this. Juan had something about him that made him very likeable. But, the development didn't seem to be happening - he looked tentative on offense and still had trouble keeping track of his man on D. He likely perceived limited upside here given who's coming. Life is short, college is shorter - go for it, Jaun, and best of luck.

[Niv Berkowitz]

If another player leaves, there has to be something going on in Buzz's program. Practice performance must not be equalling to playing time, or something. Might be time to get a little nervous. These freshmen better be ready next year.

I don't think so. Sure, it gets your attention - "Marquette losing THREE players now due to transfer". But, let's look at those.

The first two weren't surprises. Everyone figured Jamal would leave due to how the season (didn't) pan out for him. Jake leaving was pretty much in the cards as well. This one is a little surprising, but when you consider where he's from (CA), then it makes more sense to leave from a geographical purpose.

[hairy worthen]

I don't think so. Sure, it gets your attention - "Marquette losing THREE players now due to transfer". But, let's look at those.

The first two weren't surprises. Everyone figured Jamal would leave due to how the season (didn't) pan out for him. Jake leaving was pretty much in the cards as well. This one is a little surprising, but when you consider where he's from (CA), then it makes more sense to leave from a geographical purpose.

Right.  Plus, look around, this is the landscape of college basketball now. No need to get the panties in a bunch yet.

[4everwarriors]

Still got to have a good piece now and again

No argument there, Bro.

[Lennys Tap]

If another player leaves, there has to be something going on in Buzz's program. Practice performance must not be equalling to playing time, or something. Might be time to get a little nervous. These freshmen better be ready next year.

Yeah, right. Jamal Ferguson, Jake Thomas and Juan Anderson were kickin' Van's, Trent's and Jamil's backsides in practice but Buzz wouldn't let them on the floor. Did you watch any of our games last year?