Juan transferring

[VegasWarrior77]

What does Paint Touches know?  Maybe a fourth transfer about to happen?  Attached is a tweet from about 6:40pm (CDST).

[NavinRJohnson]

What does Paint Touches know?  Maybe a fourth transfer about to happen?  Attached is a tweet from about 6:40pm (CDST).

Sounds to me more like an addition soon to come.

[Otule's Glass Eye]

Sounds to me more like an addition soon to come.

Could be either an addition or subtraction, we'll see. I'm just shocked that all of these transfers are coming right before possibly one of the best seasons of this school's history. If someone (probably would be Mayo) leaves, we need to add a transfer before next season.

[Warriors10]

What does Paint Touches know?  Maybe a fourth transfer about to happen?  Attached is a tweet from about 6:40pm (CDST).

Going into this offseason Mayo seemed to be the most obvious one to transfer...he hasn't yet.

[4everwarriors]

Here's the beauty of a player like Juan leavin'. The upgrade in roster talent is happenin'. If you want to piss with the blue bloods and play deep into March or April, you have to bring in better talent than Juan and Ferguson. Nice guys and such, but I said midway through the season that better players are needed. 3 star dudes can only get you so far regardless of the coach. I view this as an extremely positive move for the program. Buzz just needs to seal the deal with some 5 stars now and the momentum will snowball.

[NavinRJohnson]

I'm just shocked that all of these transfers are coming right before possibly one of the best seasons of this school's history.

Shouldn't be shocking. Players wanna play. Nobody who has left was really going to do so at MU.

[MU B2002]

Maybe Ox and Otule are locked in a fierce game of dominoes...  Someone from paint touches just happened to see it in progress.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

So once again there's a scholarship available for Jake Thomas.

[We R Final Four]

Here's the beauty of a player like Juan leavin'. The upgrade in roster talent is happenin'. If you want to piss with the blue bloods and play deep into March or April, you have to bring in better talent than Juan and Ferguson. Nice guys and such, but I said midway through the season that better players are needed. 3 star dudes can only get you so far regardless of the coach. I view this as an extremely positive move for the program. Buzz just needs to seal the deal with some 5 stars now and the momentum will snowball.

+1. Nailed it. 

[Otule's Glass Eye]

So after these recent events the depth chart now IMO will look like

1) Duane/Derrick/Dawson
2) Blue/JJJ/Mayo
3) Jamil/Burton/any of the 2 guards can play here in a small lineup w/ Jamil at the 4
4) Steve/McKay/Jamil
5) Oxtule

[ChicosBailBonds]

Here's the beauty of a player like Juan leavin'. The upgrade in roster talent is happenin'. If you want to piss with the blue bloods and play deep into March or April, you have to bring in better talent than Juan and Ferguson. Nice guys and such, but I said midway through the season that better players are needed. 3 star dudes can only get you so far regardless of the coach. I view this as an extremely positive move for the program. Buzz just needs to seal the deal with some 5 stars now and the momentum will snowball.

Maybe.  Kentucky had a bunch of 5 stars and went to the NIT.  Then again, the year prior they won it all.

If you're ok with heavy roster turnover it can work, but UNC was decked with 5 stars, UCLA, etc...all did so-so.   I get where you are coming from, but there are tradeoffs as well.

[Jay Bee]

This one is not a surprise for me.

Best of luck to Juan.

[VegasWarrior77]

Anyone know of a very good point guard who's eligible to play right away?

[Waryours]

Anyone know of a very good point guard who's eligible to play right away?

Yes, Duane Wilson

[VegasWarrior77]

Yes, Duane Wilson

+1

[MU Buff]

Maybe.  Kentucky had a bunch of 5 stars and went to the NIT.  Then again, the year prior they won it all.

If you're ok with heavy roster turnover it can work, but UNC was decked with 5 stars, UCLA, etc...all did so-so.   I get where you are coming from, but there are tradeoffs as well.

Obviously, there are trade offs and it's extremely hard to be great year in and year out when you lose so many players.  However, Buzz has upgraded the talent very fast over the last 3 years.  We have a lot of transfers because they don't see playing time for themselves in the future.  Hopefully in the next couple years we start to see that level off a bit.

I would strive to be like Kansas and Duke.  Self and K have mastered the art of putting together a top 10-15 roster every year because they know how to combine the 5 star one and done talent with 3 and 4 year players.

[Dish]

Not surprised at all, heard rumor last offseason he was close to transfering.

Anyone shocked at a transfer needs to wake up. Approx 300 players announced they are transfering in last 4 weeks.

[Abode4life]

Yes, Duane Wilson

The best thing about freshman is they become sophomores.  There is a big adjustment period, especially if you are not a top 5-10 recruit.  The beginning of next year will most likely be rough and i can just hear everyone saying how Duane isn't what he was supposed to be.

[bilsu]

Not surprised at all, heard rumor last offseason he was close to transfering.

Anyone shocked at a transfer needs to wake up. Approx 300 players announced they are transfering in last 4 weeks.

I thought Buzz was being smart by starting him and that would keep him from transferrring. I enjpoyed watching Anderson. It also hurts the vision I had of next years press. There would of been an extreme amount of quickness on the floor with Juan, McKay, J. Wilson, Blue and Duane Wilson.

[LAZER]

Larry Williams must be pissed be took that Brewers ticket

[Waryours]

I agree, but the best thing about Duane Wilson is his versitality.  He can shoot (60%, 55% from 3), beat the defender on the dribble both to the left and right, and can absolutely soar.  If he was located in Chicago or New York he would be top 10 hands down.  I think MU landed the golden ticket with Duane.  

[77ncaachamps]

Gonna miss Juan.

Showed MAD love for MU as a kid from the East Bay.

Energy...occasional three point shots...offensive rebounding...always around the glass...
But more importantly, there was a (fun) chemistry he facilitated with the backcourt fellas.

If he was able to put on more muscle, he would've been a great player the last two years.

But the minutes aren't there for him and he did seem to miss home/family.

I truly wish him the best. One of my faves under Buzz no doubt.

[Waryours]

The best thing about freshman is they become sophomores.  There is a big adjustment period, especially if you are not a top 5-10 recruit.  The beginning of next year will most likely be rough and i can just hear everyone saying how Duane isn't what he was supposed to be.

I agree, but the best thing about Duane Wilson is his versitality.  He can shoot (60%, 55% from 3), beat the defender on the dribble both to the left and right, and can absolutely soar.  If he was located in Chicago or New York he would be top 10 hands down.  I think MU landed the golden ticket with Duane.  

[MUBurrow]

A few weeks ago I had an interesting conversation with some good friends that are still in college athletics 'biz'.  They said some interesting things about transfers in college hoops.  One called it an epidemic, the other was close.  Said the NCAA is wanting to crack down on it, but it isn't easy.

I asked why all the movement in their opinion.  Their belief in their experiences is playing time, but they also said it is because we have let this happen at the High School and AAU level.  We encourage kids to quit (move on) from their teams all the time at those levels and transfer to get more PT.  It's all about showcasing the athlete and if junior isn't getting enough playing time, he's encouraged to go to the next AAU team or a different high school.  Why would it be any different in college when this is what these kids are used to doing?  Part of today's environment.

I really enjoyed having a Californian on the squad, which is a rarity.  I remember I almost left after freshman year...it's tough being that far from home, but you stick it out.  Wish him the best...it won't be the last.  Unfortunate the level it has gotten to in college basketball.  

Sorry - but I think this is total crap. Committing isnt a 4 year buy-in.  I don't think you need to "stick it out" when things aren't working out.  If you insist on comparing a basketball player's transfer to your college experience in any way (which is ludicrous to begin with) imagine you couldn't get any of the classes in your major at Marquette, but then found out you could get those classes at a place that is familiar and close to home. Face it - for basketball players, playing time is a lot like classes in a major - its the reason you are there. We can debate whether or not thats appropriate all we want, but its true.  By this time, Juan thought he was going to be transitioning into a featured role on the team, and he hasn't. Its not like he hasn't paid his dues - by all accounts he's been one of the hardest working, most team-oriented and energetic players on the roster.  But its not working out.

To then take that, and apply some confirmation-bias horse$hit about the plague of the entitlement generation and whatever other narrative Juan Anderson's transfer fits for you is bull.  Guy came here for two years and gave everything he had. Worked through injury and was always the biggest cheerleader on the bench.  He didn't leave because he couldnt "tough it out." This isnt like you being a homesick Californian (who I should mention has since moved back there).  This is a guy who came to MU for a very particular reason, which shows few signs of developing as the way he (and Buzz) envisioned. He's likely going to end up at a California school (maybe even one similar to MU ala LMU, etc) where he plays, is close to his family, etc. He took a chance coming to MU and putting everything he had into it to begin with. That was a brave thing to do. He gave half of his college experience to trying to make that work out. If you reevaluate that choice halfway through and decide that you are likely to get the things you want out of the last couple years closer to home - leaving your friends and teammates of the last two years to pursue that is brave too. Not a product of entitlement. This isnt a Jeronne freaking Maymon situation.

[Stretchdeltsig]

True.  Juan gave everything he had on the floor.  But, the cold truth is that he had trouble scoring; he had trouble driving to the hoop; he had trouble playing at the Big E level of basketball.  He may be a much better player at a lower level.