http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9028021/big-east-eyes-america-12-new-conference-name-football-schools-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9028021/big-east-eyes-america-12-new-conference-name-football-schools-sources-say)
"The "America 12 Conference" is the favorite to become the new name of the current Big East Conference's football schools, league sources told ESPN."
Quote from: MUFlutieEffect on March 07, 2013, 01:47:30 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9028021/big-east-eyes-america-12-new-conference-name-football-schools-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9028021/big-east-eyes-america-12-new-conference-name-football-schools-sources-say)
"The "America 12 Conference" is the favorite to become the new name of the current Big East Conference's football schools, league sources told ESPN."
I was down on that name a few minutes ago, but after thinking about it, I guess it's not too horrible. Not sure what else they can do for a conference with teams spread out all over the country.
Interesting...good choice I guess as they are spread geographically apart. I wonder how UCONN feels about it considering they are in the America East Conference backyard.
I wonder what slogans we're going to have:
"The America 12: We've Already Got Plans for When Cincy and UCONN Bolt."
"The America 12: Drifting Towards Mid-Major Status since 2013."
"The America 12: Is That an Iceberg Dead Ahead?"
"The America 12: At Least We're Not Dayton."
My guess is, they'll wait until the Big 10 steals UNC and Georgia Tech...then beg to join what's left of the ACC.
Sounds like CUSA 2.0 to me. Not teal.
Quote from: MUCrew on March 07, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Sounds like CUSA 2.0 to me. Not teal.
Haha I was thinking exact same thing. Litteraly CUSA 2.0
They have a few good basketball teams (UConn, Memphis, Cincy)...but their football teams are horrible. Just heard that Tulsa may soon be invited. Just another random school thrown into the mix.
I'm so glad that MU got into a lifeboat before the ship sank.
Don't be too harsh.
There but by the grace of God goes Marquette.
Ouch.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/schools-used-big-east-reportedly-might-patriotic-conference-190411319--ncaaf.html//
UConn is actually pursuing AAU status. I guess they are thinking long term about the Big10.
http://today.uconn.edu/blog/2013/01/uconn-state-officials-announce-launch-of-next-generation-connecticut-initiative/
http://articles.courant.com/2013-01-31/news/hc-engineering-uconn-0201-20130131_1_dannel-p-malloy-press-conference-uconn-alumnus
Honestly, I don't like the name, but after looking at a list of collegiate conferences, I am not sure what they can do. Most of these are named for geographical location and they simply don't have anything that fits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_athletic_conferences_in_the_United_States
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 07, 2013, 02:10:27 PM
Ouch.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/schools-used-big-east-reportedly-might-patriotic-conference-190411319--ncaaf.html//
QuoteSince "Mediocre Dozen" and "A Shell of its Former Self" are probably not best for marketing....
+10000
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 07, 2013, 02:14:09 PM
UConn is actually pursuing AAU status. I guess they are thinking long term about the Big10.
http://today.uconn.edu/blog/2013/01/uconn-state-officials-announce-launch-of-next-generation-connecticut-initiative/
http://articles.courant.com/2013-01-31/news/hc-engineering-uconn-0201-20130131_1_dannel-p-malloy-press-conference-uconn-alumnus
That's not an automatic ticket to the Big 10. It takes a successful football team and a desirable media market.
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 07, 2013, 02:17:35 PM
That's not an automatic ticket to the Big 10. It takes a successful football team and a desirable media market.
If the B10s goal is to get more $$ from the BTN in the NYC area, having both Rutgers and UConn can't hurt.
And you could argue that UConns football team has been more successful recently than either Rutgers or Maryland.
This is why reestablishing and rebranding a conference would be difficult. So happy that "Big East" brand was taken with us.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 07, 2013, 02:14:09 PM
UConn is actually pursuing AAU status. I guess they are thinking long term about the Big10.
http://today.uconn.edu/blog/2013/01/uconn-state-officials-announce-launch-of-next-generation-connecticut-initiative/
http://articles.courant.com/2013-01-31/news/hc-engineering-uconn-0201-20130131_1_dannel-p-malloy-press-conference-uconn-alumnus
AAU is not important because some people here have never heard of it.
I've got a buck to throw in the hat for america12.xxx. Who's with me?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 07, 2013, 02:14:36 PM
Honestly, I don't like the name, but after looking at a list of collegiate conferences, I am not sure what they can do. Most of these are named for geographical location and they simply don't have anything that fits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_athletic_conferences_in_the_United_States
That's about 5 'honestly' uses today Sultan. We will just assume from this point forward that you are being honest. No need to preface any statement with 'honestly.'
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 07, 2013, 02:17:35 PM
That's not an automatic ticket to the Big 10. It takes a successful football team and a desirable media market.
Like IU/Bloomington, In.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 07, 2013, 02:28:27 PM
I've got a buck to throw in the hat for america12.xxx. Who's with me?
america12.org is already taken. Just sayin'
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 07, 2013, 02:36:37 PM
Like IU/Bloomington, In.
C'mon, I'm talking about future additions. Indiana joined the Big 10 in 1899....long before "cable TV footprint" was a consideration.
Quote from: We R Final Four on March 07, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
That's about 5 'honestly' uses today Sultan. We will just assume from this point forward that you are being honest. No need to preface any statement with 'honestly.'
Honestly, wasn't this a point you could have addressed in a PM? Honestly, I don't think the whole board needs to read this.
So happy to be on this side of the equation. Almost like a spring Thanksgiving.
Got me thinking, who would be the top 3 people who put us in this position? Cords? Wild? Crean? Wade? Buzz? Cottingham? Larry Williams? Excuse me, but I don't recall how we came to the Big East timing-wise. Did we know we were going Big East when we went to the Final Four (or even have an inkling) or did this propel us into the conversation. Then I think about something like the Robert Jackson transfer and how it totally changed that team. If he doesn't transfer and Merritt is our center, would we be here today? I know that once we made that final four, fundraising changed forever, we were back on the map and things really started to happen. How many Amigos come without the FF and so on and so on. Almost feel sorry for America 12, but not really.
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 07, 2013, 02:40:50 PM
C'mon, I'm talking about future additions. Indiana joined the Big 10 in 1899....long before "cable TV footprint" was a consideration.
Not to mention that IU is pretty much followed by the entire state just as UW sports are followed by a few people who live outside of Madison.
Sounds like its the name of an Apollo space mission.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 07, 2013, 02:42:58 PM
Honestly, wasn't this a point you could have addressed in a PM? Honestly, I don't think the whole board needs to read this.
You are obviously a smart guy--just wondering why you would say, much less type, honestly so often--or at all.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 07, 2013, 03:00:30 PM
Sounds like its the name of an Apollo space mission.
no, that would be Apollo 12. cool kids call that "The Prequel."
This name will be a mistake when they don't have 12 in year 2. Why would any conference starting today have a number in its name?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 07, 2013, 02:19:44 PM
If the B10s goal is to get more $$ from the BTN in the NYC area, having both Rutgers and UConn can't hurt.
And you could argue that UConns football team has been more successful recently than either Rutgers or Maryland.
Not having the basketball conference tournament in NYC is going to kill a ton of people (UConn fans) around here. I know people already ticked off that they can't take one more train ride into NYC to go and see UConn play in the BET, thanks to that post-season ban. I know of others who for years always take one day-off to attend the BET and hopefully see UConn play.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 07, 2013, 02:23:45 PM
AAU is not important because some people here have never heard of it.
AAU matters... right up until it doesn't matter.
If/When the Big10 decides it can make more money taking (insert school) who isn't AAU... they will do it.
$.$.$.$.$.
We know they are whores. They just need to see the right $.
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on March 07, 2013, 03:04:09 PM
This name will be a mistake when they don't have 12 in year 2. Why would any conference starting today have a number in its name?
+1
I can't believe they would put a 12 in the name, given the likelihood their membership will change in the next few years.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on March 07, 2013, 03:50:02 PM
AAU matters... right up until it doesn't matter.
If/When the Big10 decides it can make more money taking (insert school) who isn't AAU... they will do it.
$.$.$.$.$.
We know they are whores. They just need to see the right $.
Guns, you speak the truth.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 07, 2013, 02:23:45 PM
AAU is not important because some people here have never heard of it.
If AAU were important, why did Nebraska get an invite to the Big 10?
Quote from: Pakuni on March 07, 2013, 04:06:35 PM
If AAU were important, why did Nebraska get an invite to the Big 10?
They were in the AAU when they got the invite...they were kicked out later.
The better question is if it is so important, why did ND get an B10 invite?
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on March 07, 2013, 03:04:09 PM
This name will be a mistake when they don't have 12 in year 2. Why would any conference starting today have a number in its name?
What's the alternative? "Big America," "American Conference," ?
Just to be clear, AAU IS important.
It's just not as important as...
$
The Big10's mission statement is now: Build the strongest sports division/network that generates the most $.
That's it. Everything else is just window dressing.
Why put a number behind the name? There are so many conferences out there inaccurately named - yeah, yeah, yeah, points to history, blah. It's ugly and stinks of wanabee nature.
I am thrilled we're paying for the Big East name.
Sure rebranding may take some time, but all the shitball ideas out there for conference names. I cringe thinking of what it could of been.
Quote from: Victor McCormick on March 07, 2013, 04:19:31 PM
What's the alternative? "Big America," "American Conference," ?
Go honest. Big Money.
The Little Aresco Urban Achievers
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on March 07, 2013, 03:04:09 PM
This name will be a mistake when they don't have 12 in year 2. Why would any conference starting today have a number in its name?
Seriously, I was waiting to get down to the last post so I could write the same thing. With the way conference memberships are bouncing all over the place it seems really short-sighted to include a number in the name. Might eventually become the America 12 +2 -1 -2 +3 League.
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/30330190.jpg)
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 07, 2013, 05:38:35 PM
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/30330190.jpg)
WVU might try to get back in if they knew it would be like that.
The Frequently Flying 12.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 07, 2013, 02:23:45 PM
AAU is not important because some people here have never heard of it.
Seriously, I think you go around all day trying to find ways to instigate things on the internet. If you would remember my argument. I said it was not important to academics (only University Presidents) and not because I hadn't heard of it ( I am an academic), but because the vast majority of my peers (academics) have not heard of it either.
When you point out what AAU stands for the general response is oh, yeah, no one cares about that.
If Marquette still was associated with Medical College of Wisconsin, they would be eligible for the AAU. Does that suddenly make them more prestigious???
AM-EX
As to the number 12...they could just make it the "Baker's Dozen"...plus or minus around the 12.
They can have divisions like "First to go" and "Leaving Next"
Quote from: warriorchick on March 07, 2013, 02:58:02 PM
Not to mention that IU is pretty much followed by the entire state just as UW sports are followed by a few people who live outside of Madison.
This is assuming we forget about the other NINE D1 programs in Indiana. An incredible number compared to WI. IU no doubt is THE hoops program in Indiana, but to say IU is the be all end all is a slap to Butler, Purdue, Notre Dame....i'm out of breath. I wish WI college hoops held a candle to IN, unfortunately that is not the case.
Why not just call it the National Collegiate Conference? NCC is short and would catch on.
Quote from: muhoosier260 on March 07, 2013, 11:28:38 PM
This is assuming we forget about the other NINE D1 programs in Indiana. An incredible number compared to WI. IU no doubt is THE hoops program in Indiana, but to say IU is the be all end all is a slap to Butler, Purdue, Notre Dame....i'm out of breath. I wish WI college hoops held a candle to IN, unfortunately that is not the case.
You mean somebody in South Bend (no less the rest of the state) actually cares about Notre Dame basketball?
In the voice of Brian Williams:
QuoteThe American 12 were released from an undisclosed location in the Middle East after years of tense negotiations.
It sounds like a hostage situation.
Quote from: muhoosier260 on March 07, 2013, 11:28:38 PM
This is assuming we forget about the other NINE D1 programs in Indiana. An incredible number compared to WI. IU no doubt is THE hoops program in Indiana, but to say IU is the be all end all is a slap to Butler, Purdue, Notre Dame....i'm out of breath. I wish WI college hoops held a candle to IN, unfortunately that is not the case.
I was referring to geographical footpriint....there are IU fans throughout the state of Indiana. I would bet that when you get more than thirty miles away from campus, the fan bases for those other schools start dissipating pretty quickly.
Same with the state of Wisconsin. After taking alumni and family of alumni out of the equation, I am sure there is a higher percentage of UW-Madison fans in LaCrosse than there are UW-LaCrosse fans in Madison. Madison is The State School, just like IU is in Indiana.
Tennessee has thirteen D1 schools. But other than the general Memphis area (U of Memphis) and upper- and middle-upper-class Nashvillians (Vanderbilt) nearly all casual college basketball fans root for University of Tennessee.
I am too lazy to look for myself. Has anyone checked any of the Big Least's forums or local papers to see how they like their amazing new moniker?
Quote from: T-Bone on March 08, 2013, 08:08:32 AM
In the voice of Brian Williams:
It sounds like a hostage situation.
FREE THE AMERICA 12!
Too bad Saturday is an away game. That might make a good sign for the student section.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 08, 2013, 08:21:28 AM
I was referring to geographical footpriint....there are IU fans throughout the state of Indiana. I would bet that when you get more than thirty miles away from campus, the fan bases for those other schools start dissipating pretty quickly.
IU fans are vastly, vastly outnumbered north of Indianapolis by Purdue fans. It's not even close. You're right about the other schools, though.