Poll
Question:
Do you expect someone to transfer at the end of the semester?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 113
Option 2: No
votes: 109
I won't ask for a name as that is too upsetting. So a generic question, do you expect someone to transfer at the end of the semester?
I said no
at least two
Inevitable
D.Wilson
Maybe I'm just naive, but I have a feeling that no one transfers this year.
I always expect at least one transfer. Will help our 2013 situation so depending who it might not be the worst thing. If a 2012 scholarship does open up I wonder if Buzz would take on a one year grad school transfer such as Renaldo Woolridge from Tennessee to have an extra body that will see the court but also keep 2013 in line to bring in both of the verbals and hopefully Nunn.
As long as Buzz stays, I expect no transfers. Buzz leaves and I expect 5 transfers. That would include incoming signed recruits opting to go elsewhere.
Quote from: mubb34 on March 28, 2012, 10:34:34 PM
D.Wilson
Do you know something or are you talking out yer ass?
I voted no.
Not this year.
I have no idea. If it helps our team get better and gives a guy mostly glued to the bench a chance to go someplace where he can play more, I certainly hope so.
I do not think there will be a transfer, but listening to Buzz's show, I got the feeling Arron Durley will not be at MU next year. The Otules 6th year, the reason.
Agreed with Lenny. If we can improve the team then I would welcome a transfer. In cases like that it usually woks out best for the kid leaving anyways. Have trust that Buzz will not churn kids and has their best interest in mind.
What did Buzz say about Otule? Was this on the Homer Wrapup show.
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 29, 2012, 09:31:20 AM
I do not think there will be a transfer, but listening to Buzz's show, I got the feeling Arron Durley will not be at MU next year. The Otules 6th year, the reason.
That was the feeling I got too. Buzz said that Durley has a lot of work to do and that with CO's extra year, the situation has changed, and they have to figure out what to do that will be best for Durley. That sounds like maybe some JUCO might be in Durley's future.
Either one transfers or one does not enroll.
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on March 29, 2012, 09:44:20 AM
That was the feeling I got too. Buzz said that Durley has a lot of work to do and that with CO's extra year, the situation has changed, and they have to figure out what to do that will be best for Durley. That sounds like maybe some JUCO might be in Durley's future.
Really.... Or it might mean redshirt.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 29, 2012, 08:12:32 AM
Do you know something or are you talking out yer ass?
I voted no.
Well, Junior is a Senior now and will have the court for the majority of the game. In 2013 we have Duane Wilson coming in, and I can guarentee that Duane Wilson would see way more of the court than Derrick... Derrick will be nothing more than a tight defender that has no offense whatsoever and will be sitting the bench for most the game. (I do love watching the kid get up tight on people though, fun to watch defensively).
Quote from: mubb34 on March 29, 2012, 11:41:30 AM
Well, Junior is a Senior now and will have the court for the majority of the game. In 2013 we have Duane Wilson coming in, and I can guarentee that Duane Wilson would see way more of the court than Derrick... Derrick will be nothing more than a tight defender that has no offense whatsoever and will be sitting the bench for most the game. (I do love watching the kid get up tight on people though, fun to watch defensively).
So in other words, you don't know anything.
While it is certainly possible that Duane Wilson may start as a freshman, I think Derrick Wilson in 2013-14 is going to look a lot different than 2011-12 Derrick Wilson.
It is really odd. Everyone gets all excited about Juan Anderson in his limited minutes this year, but Derrick played almost twice as much and had a much larger role. Why can't we presume that he might grow as well?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 29, 2012, 11:47:50 AM
So in other words, you don't know anything.
While it is certainly possible that Duane Wilson may start as a freshman, I think Derrick Wilson in 2013-14 is going to look a lot different than 2011-12 Derrick Wilson.
It is really odd. Everyone gets all excited about Juan Anderson in his limited minutes this year, but Derrick played almost twice as much and had a much larger role. Why can't we presume that he might grow as well?
Paint Touches is running player recaps next week, and Aki Collins' quotes on Derrick Wilson were very telling.
Basically, Collins said Wilson got so comfortable in his role as a distributor and a freshman not supposed to mess things up on offense, that he never got to spread his wings offensively.
To think he is transferring is ridiculous.
Quote from: strotty on March 29, 2012, 11:51:24 AM
Paint Touches is running player recaps next week, and Aki Collins' quotes on Derrick Wilson were very telling.
Basically, Collins said Wilson got so comfortable in his role as a distributor and a freshman not supposed to mess things up on offense, that he never got to spread his wings offensively.
To think he is transferring is ridiculous.
Not saying it will translate, but didn't Derrick score the ball at a pretty decent clip in high school?
Quote from: LancesOtherNut on March 29, 2012, 11:56:45 AM
Not saying it will translate, but didn't Derrick score the ball at a pretty decent clip in high school?
19.0 points as a sophomore, 23.0 as a junior, 17.0 as a senior.
My guess is no. I obviously would not be shocked by one, but I just don't see it. Just let it play out and don't play the guessing game.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 29, 2012, 11:39:23 AM
Really.... Or it might mean redshirt.
Redshirt was my first thought, but that takes up a scholly. Buzz didn't give any details as to what he was considering for Durley.
Yes. I bet Juan Anderson transfers to Sacramento State or something.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 29, 2012, 11:39:23 AM
Really.... Or it might mean redshirt.
Or it might be that Duane Wilson needs a spot??
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on March 29, 2012, 12:10:59 PM
Redshirt was my first thought, but that takes up a scholly. Buzz didn't give any details as to what he was considering for Durley.
I guess it depends on what he means by "the situation has changed." Does he mean the scholarship situation? Or the situation that we wouldn't need Durley to back up Davante in 2013-14 since Otule would be around for another year?
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 29, 2012, 12:17:53 PM
Or it might be that Duane Wilson needs a spot??
We have plenty of time to worry about that. Minnesota for instance needs to find a spot this fall for Mbakwe's sixth year.
Derrick Wilson is going to be good
For some reason I think Juan Anderson will transfer. Just seems like a high potential player that will never score for us because of his place in the system but could be used as a scorer at a smaller bball program.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 29, 2012, 12:29:00 PM
Derrick Wilson is going to be good
How can you say that?!? He barely scored any points as a true freshman! Everyone knows that players who don't play and shoot often as freshman never turn out to be any good! Actually, he should redshirt and then he'd obviously reemerge as John Wall 2.0 in 2013-14.
In all honesty, I think most of the team will follow Buzz to SMU.
I think Durley has to come into the program... DG and CO will both effectively be juniors, realistically you don't expect anything out of any new big man until they're juniors, especially someone as raw as Durley. You could hope to land someone in 2013, but that's a crapshoot at best and there aren't any scholies available. He's not going to develop at a JUCO/Prep that much and you need him in 2014 to be providing major minutes. There's no way we'd get a starting Freshman 5 in 2014. Jahil Okafor plays with Ferrari unfortunately, not Mac Irvin, which would be our best bet.
Maybe he redshirts to give him 3 quality years of playing (2014-2016), 2013 being his first year of getting minutes.
Quote from: GoldenEagle2002 on March 29, 2012, 12:41:35 PM
For some reason I think Juan Anderson will transfer. Just seems like a high potential player that will never score for us because of his place in the system but could be used as a scorer at a smaller bball program.
Posts like this make me facepalm.
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 29, 2012, 12:58:14 PM
Posts like this make me facepalm.
I guess this is what fan forums are for, but there is just zero reason to believe Juan Anderson is even remotely close to transferring. He is very happy at Marquette, in Milwaukee and the role he played last year. C'mon, people.
Derrick Wilson has a long way to go to play at the level we are striving to hit. Decent, role player on good team but do not think he can be a contributor in our program down the road. We need speed and athleticism at the point down the road and the new DWilson is just that.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 29, 2012, 12:29:00 PM
Derrick Wilson is going to be good
Derrick Wilson needs to not show the ball to every player that defends him - which he should know regardless of being a freshman - and he needs some confidence - something that IS relative to being a freshman.
Quote from: Goose on March 29, 2012, 01:05:20 PM
Derrick Wilson has a long way to go to play at the level we are striving to hit. Decent, role player on good team but do not think he can be a contributor in our program down the road. We need speed and athleticism at the point down the road and the new DWilson is just that.
Understood. But even athletic point guards struggle at the BE level as freshman. For instance, look at Peyton Siva. Siva was the #7 PG in the country coming out of high school according to Scout...and he played 11 mpg and scored 3.9 ppg. Duane Wilson is considered the #22 PG in the country at this point. Do we honestly think he will be able to step right in?
We are going to need Derrick Wilson running the point by 2013.
I didn't vote, as it wasn't clear whether you meant a transfer out or a transfer in. I don't expect either, but the possibility exists for a transfer in as mentioned in previous posts.
watching DW warm up in Phoenix showed his nice j from the elbow. He also surprised me with some range. Not as deadly as Crowder, but I'd rather have him shooting than VB right now.
I like Derrick Wilson. He needs to learn not to use his hands on defense. The way he played against Wisconsin when Cadougan was suspended should have everyone here giving him a pass. I think he is better than you are giving him credit for.
Look up "Derrick Wilson Hotchkiss" and you'll see some videos of a player who can score the basketball. He didn't have a particularly good outside shot but he definitely has some offensive skills driving to the basket.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 29, 2012, 12:17:29 PM
Yes. I bet Juan Anderson transfers to Sacramento State or something.
Juan, if you read this...don't listen to this sh!t. You're a very talented player, and one that is going to make a HUGE impact on MU basketball in the next three years. Keep your head up, and keep workin'. Your time will come.
I don't expect one. If we see one because of PT specifically, possibly Mellow as he seems to have plenty of raw talent but hasn't had much of a chance. However that doesn't include transfers for other reasons, which I wouldn't even try to predict.
hopefully Jamail Jones is ok in his role. Voted no, cuz I dont WANT anyone to go, but if someone were to leave, I think it would be Jones.
It's good we can move on from the fact that our coach hates our Administration into more productive conversation like.........which players need to get the unnatural carnal knowledge out.
J. Jones
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 29, 2012, 12:47:44 PM
How can you say that?!? He barely scored any points as a true freshman! Everyone knows that players who don't play and shoot often as freshman never turn out to be any good! Actually, he should redshirt and then he'd obviously reemerge as John Wall 2.0 in 2013-14.
In all honesty, I think most of the team will follow Buzz to SMU.
Durley, too?
expect it sir and demand it.
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 29, 2012, 12:58:14 PM
Posts like this make me facepalm.
This is just a guess, but I'm thinking that your forehead is pretty raw right now.
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 29, 2012, 12:58:14 PM
Posts like this make me facepalm.
Polls like this make me facepalm.
Quote from: augoman on March 29, 2012, 01:26:38 PM
I didn't vote, as it wasn't clear whether you meant a transfer out or a transfer in. I don't expect either, but the possibility exists for a transfer in as mentioned in previous posts.
watching DW warm up in Phoenix showed his nice j from the elbow. He also surprised me with some range. Not as deadly as Crowder, but I'd rather have him shooting than VB right now.
A transfer in means a transfer out, so its transfer out only or transfer in and transfer out.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on March 29, 2012, 04:40:36 PM
It's good we can move on from the fact that our coach hates our Administration into more productive conversation like.........which players need to get the frack out.
LOL
Next up: which player has the greatest need for some dental work!
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 29, 2012, 08:35:56 PM
LOL
Next up: which player has the greatest need for some dental work!
Paging dentist 4ever, dentist 4ever please.
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 29, 2012, 06:40:27 PM
Durley, too?
Yes, because he's going to redshirt, thus turning himself into the state of Texas' newer, younger version of Tim Duncan.
Everyone knows that we don't need to worry about Durley going to SMU. A school that prestigious would never recruit a player like him. Don't you know that he didn't even play in high school???
Durley needs to go to JUCO for a year. Plain and simple. He didn't play his senior year of high school, how in the hell is he going to even come close to competing in the best conference in college basketball.
Durley needs to come here next year. We do not have a scholarship problem until 2013. We have with Durley 14 players. 7 are guards. Counting Durley we have three centers, two of which have a history of getting hurt. Gardner shoulder and knee. Otule foot, foot and knee. We have only four forwards and two of them are Anderson and Jones. I do not care how good he is, we simply need his size and body at a minimum for practice.
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 29, 2012, 12:58:14 PM
Posts like this make me facepalm.
Sorry, I was just trying to take a guess. I think he can be a good player, but Im just worried that he might be getting antsy sitting on the bench.
Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on March 29, 2012, 10:56:53 PM
Durley needs to go to JUCO for a year. Plain and simple. He didn't play his senior year of high school, how in the hell is he going to even come close to competing in the best conference in college basketball.
Tell me, what is it in Durley's game that has you convinced that he will gain more out of being at a JUCO than he will being at Marquette and competing against guys like Otule and Gardner every day in practice, and working out with Todd Smith? Which moves have you seen, or perhaps more importantly, not seen that have you so sold that he will benefit more from a JUCO?
I'll save you the trouble and answer those questions for you. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
If Durley isn't ready, I trust that the coaching staff will make the decisions necessary to either park him at a JUCO or redshirt for a year, find him a school better suited to his abilities, or simply move on to other options. But there is no input from you or anyone else on this board that will help whatsoever. You don't know why he didn't play. You don't know what his capabilities are or readiness level is. You don't know what the coaching staff's plan is for him.
All these posts people have made about what Durley "needs" are as ridiculous as they are repetitive. Until we actually see what he can or can't do, it is unfair and uneducated to assume that the coaching staff made a mistake. And more than anything, it's a low-blow at a kid that hasn't done anything to justify such unfair treatment.
I'm sure Durley knows what he's in for. And I remember the team celebrating the success that Mbao had in his stint. I won't be shocked to see the young man contribute some minutes here and there in non conference.
Quote from: PTM on March 29, 2012, 09:03:41 PM
Paging dentist 4ever, dentist 4ever please.
my vote is for Jamail Jones
Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on March 29, 2012, 10:56:53 PM
Durley needs to go to JUCO for a year. Plain and simple. He didn't play his senior year of high school, how in the hell is he going to even come close to competing in the best conference in college basketball.
I'm going to go ahead and trust Buzz' judgment in recruiting players over yours.
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 30, 2012, 04:31:03 PM
I'm going to go ahead and trust Buzz' judgment in recruiting players over yours.
Everyone, myself included, talks about Durley without ever having seen him play. Let's reserve judgement to Buzz on this one....if he wants him, Marquette should be happy to have him donning the Blue and Gold.
I want all the recruits to show up and the rest of the Core to stay, what good does it do to upset the team chemistry by
having a player leave? From what I could see , they all cheered for each other to succeed. Have you ever been on any team
and experienced how close you get with each other?
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 30, 2012, 08:15:56 AM
Sorry, I was just trying to take a guess. I think he can be a good player, but Im just worried that he might be getting antsy sitting on the bench.
Why? He has lots of practice at it.
Quote from: strotty on March 30, 2012, 04:45:26 PM
Everyone, myself included, talks about Durley without ever having seen him play.
The cheerleaders, his parents, heck, the entire student body at his high school probably talk about the guy and none of them have seen him play either
Has Durley ever seen Durley play?
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 30, 2012, 04:31:03 PM
I'm going to go ahead and trust Buzz' judgment in recruiting players over yours.
You sure? Ultimate warrior over there wears a blue catsuit, Dudley should look into this JUCO thing.
Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on March 29, 2012, 10:56:53 PM
Durley needs to go to JUCO for a year. Plain and simple. He didn't play his senior year of high school, how in the hell is he going to even come close to competing in the best conference in college basketball.
I don't know that you can say that his inexperience cannot be overcome. For instance, you just started posting here recently..... oh, I think I see your point now.
I vote no, but I'm an eternal optimist.
Quote from: PTM on March 30, 2012, 09:34:43 PM
You sure? Ultimate warrior over there wears a blue catsuit, Dudley should look into this JUCO thing.
Your the most negative person on this board, sorry that I have a lot of school spirit? Sorry that I've been on espn, sports illustrated, and fox sports for repping a blue suit for my team. On to Durley, All I'm saying is that I believe it would be in the teams best interest if he were to get some valuable GAME experience since he did not play much in high school. You guys are correct in saying the time with Todd Smith and playing with Chris and Davante is great but, at some point you have to draw the line between being able to perform in practice verse performing well in a game. If you ever played sports you would realize that there is a huge difference. He needs the game experience right now and I don't see him getting that at Marquette. I hope I am wrong as he has a lot of upside since we really don't know that much about him.
Quote from: bilsu on March 29, 2012, 01:50:14 PM
I like Derrick Wilson. He needs to learn not to use his hands on defense. The way he played against Wisconsin when Cadougan was suspended should have everyone here giving him a pass. I think he is better than you are giving him credit for.
Great post. Based on facts. What a novelty (making fun of other posters who speak out of their arse).
Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on March 31, 2012, 12:44:33 PM
Your the most negative person on this board, sorry that I have a lot of school spirit? Sorry that I've been on espn, sports illustrated, and fox sports for repping a blue suit for my team. On to Durley, All I'm saying is that I believe it would be in the teams best interest if he were to get some valuable GAME experience since he did not play much in high school. You guys are correct in saying the time with Todd Smith and playing with Chris and Davante is great but, at some point you have to draw the line between being able to perform in practice verse performing well in a game. If you ever played sports you would realize that there is a huge difference. He needs the game experience right now and I don't see him getting that at Marquette. I hope I am wrong as he has a lot of upside since we really don't know that much about him.
You do realize that one of the problems with this scenario is that he could go to a JUCO and decide not to come here right? If Buzz believes he has a big upside, it would be much better to get him here right away and not risk sending him to a JUCO.
Wilson did perform well against the Badgers and that is a positive. He struggled much more than expected by me as the season wore on. I think that in Buzz's system we need a more athletic PG. I have nothing against him but think that he is not the answer down the road as a starter.
Quote from: Goose on March 31, 2012, 03:44:41 PM
Wilson did perform well against the Badgers and that is a positive. He struggled much more than expected by me as the season wore on. I think that in Buzz's system we need a more athletic PG. I have nothing against him but think that he is not the answer down the road as a starter.
He could have played football at Stanford. I'll take his athleticism. Give him time. He was relegated to a role last year that didn't allow him to show off his entire offensive skill set. He didn't need to score.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 31, 2012, 03:41:44 PM
You do realize that one of the problems with this scenario is that he could go to a JUCO and decide not to come here right? If Buzz believes he has a big upside, it would be much better to get him here right away and not risk sending him to a JUCO.
Very valid point Sultan. I stand corrected. At the same time though neither you or I know what he is capable of so I agree with you that we should just trust Buzx.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 29, 2012, 08:35:56 PM
LOL
Next up: which player has the greatest need for some dental work!
Yo, you rang?
We have a transfer every year. Why would this year be any different? If i had to guess i would say its Derek Wilson who goes.
Derrick Wilson?? Of all the guys on the team he'd be very low on the list. The kid made some pretty solid contributions as a pretty unheralded freshman. I hope he sticks around, I think hi defense is pretty nuts for a freshman and a good team can always use lockdown guys, there are always spots for them.
Quote from: LAZER on March 31, 2012, 11:22:09 PM
Derrick Wilson?? Of all the guys on the team he'd be very low on the list. The kid made some pretty solid contributions as a pretty unheralded freshman. I hope he sticks around, I think hi defense is pretty nuts for a freshman and a good team can always use lockdown guys, there are always spots for them.
And Maymon was low on ALL of our lists:/
Quote from: Dreadman24 on March 31, 2012, 11:28:32 PM
And Maymon was low on ALL of our lists:/
Maymon didn't leave because of playing time or how low some people thought his ceiling was. An absolute, special case.
Derrick Wilson is not leaving Marquette.
Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on March 31, 2012, 08:11:28 PM
Very valid point Sultan. I stand corrected. At the same time though neither you or I know what he is capable of so I agree with you that we should just trust Buzx.
So why do you constantly run Durley down? How is that trusting Buzz?
Speaking of transfers, what's the odds of Tokoto transferring out of UNC to MU in a year or two?
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 01, 2012, 12:56:29 PM
Speaking of transfers, what's the odds of Tokoto transferring out of UNC to MU in a year or two?
I've actually thought that might be a possibility. As much as Rodent fans might have thought they were 2nd for Tokoto, I think they were always going to be second. If he didn't go to UNC, he'd have gone to Kansas, and said UW was second. If he went to Duke, he would have said UW was second. No way does Bo Ryan's style fit his type of play. Saying UW was second was just a PR ploy to keep himself in the good graces of the bulk of his hometown fans. If he does transfer home, I definitely think Marquette would be the most likely destination. If not there, Milwaukee might even be a better fit than UW.
Really like the kid and he has great potential. Have been thinking of him pulling a Jamil and if he does get homesick hope he remembers the Warriors. Another type player that would be prefect fit for us. Afraid with the trio going pro his playing time just increased a lot and he will be able to showcase his talents.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 31, 2012, 09:16:16 PM
Yo, you rang?
Easy on the free dental work, NCAA might be sniffing around your nitrous oxide.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 01, 2012, 12:59:54 PM
I've actually thought that might be a possibility. As much as Rodent fans might have thought they were 2nd for Tokoto, I think they were always going to be second. If he didn't go to UNC, he'd have gone to Kansas, and said UW was second. If he went to Duke, he would have said UW was second. No way does Bo Ryan's style fit his type of play. Saying UW was second was just a PR ploy to keep himself in the good graces of the bulk of his hometown fans. If he does transfer home, I definitely think Marquette would be the most likely destination. If not there, Milwaukee might even be a better fit than UW.
I'm with you.
UNC is going to ALWAYS recruit over him. Minutes he figured SHOULD be there his sophomore year may not be there.
MU's tempo fits his game more than UW's so let the waiting game begin for JP Tokoto AKA Jamil Wilson Redux!
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 01, 2012, 01:30:33 PM
I'm with you.
UNC is going to ALWAYS recruit over him. Minutes he figured SHOULD be there his sophomore year may not be there.
MU's tempo fits his game more than UW's so let the waiting game begin for JP Tokoto AKA Jamil Wilson Redux!
The guys going pro could help him, but honestly, I'm just not sure he'll be an instant impact guy regardless. He's clearly behind McAdoo (if he returns), and guys like Bullock, Hairston, and Brice Johnson will all be competing for the same minutes. It'll be an uphill climb. I hope the best for him, and would love to see him succeed at UNC, but if it doesn't work out after a couple years, I'm sure that we'll have room in our 2014 class for him.
Yes, DJO and Jae to the NBA.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 01, 2012, 12:56:29 PM
Speaking of transfers, what's the odds of Tokoto transferring out of UNC to MU in a year or two?
Zero. The kid is good, has the proper work habits, and parental support. He'll play at UNC and play well.