Sorry if this already has been posted. Didn't see it.
http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?35718-Q-amp-A-Phil-Nolan-Hearing-from-Marquette-Oklahoma-and-Minnesota
Gopher Hole: What is the latest on your recruitment? I know that you were hearing from some schools in the fall, but decided to wait to make your college choice. Who are you hearing from the most?
Philip Nolan: It would be Marquette and Oklahoma. I pretty much re-opened my recruitment. Minnesota started back, too.
Gopher Hole: Have you thought about making some visits or go to any college games this year?
Philip Nolan: I went to the Marquette-Louisville game last Monday. I haven't given it much thought since the first signing period ended. We are just focusing on playing this year and now I can start looking into it more.
Maybe its just me, but if you 'reopen' your recruitment, aren't you really saying, no one wants me very badly?
I sense "Durley-isn't-coming" blather is imminent.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 23, 2012, 06:18:59 PM
Maybe its just me, but if you 'reopen' your recruitment, aren't you really saying, no one wants me very badly?
Or another team came on strong that makes you re-think all your options. My guess is there are plenty of teams that want Phil Nolan badly. This is good news for Marquette. Both parties had been rumored to have moved on, but obviously that's not the case.
If things worked out, I'd still take Nolan. There's definite value in a 6'11" 3/4 star project. Him, Durley, and Taylor could potentially make a really long frontcourt 2-3 years down the line.
Quote from: tower912 on January 23, 2012, 06:22:17 PM
I sense "Durley-isn't-coming" blather is imminent.
And/or who isn't stayin'.
Why don't we just take him, seems like he wants to be here.
Quote from: HOOP24/7 on January 23, 2012, 09:36:02 PM
Why don't we just take him, seems like he wants to be here.
If any of you follow Nolan on twitter you would notice how closely he follows the team. I recall after the g town loss he tweeted "man this loss hurts. I've loved Marquette my whole life and it has been my dream school my whole life." I would love to have him on the team. Just a matter of how.
A talented, home-grown big, who actually wants to play at MU. Hope we can get it done.
It's great to hear that Nolan is still a possibility. It can't hurt to keep that Milwaukee recruiting pipeline primed with the talent that's coming up.
Quote from: Boone on January 23, 2012, 10:57:35 PM
A talented, home-grown big, who actually wants to play at MU. Hope we can get it done.
This.
Get er done.
Could be wrong but I think academic eligibility will be in question.
Quote from: MUEagle1090 on January 24, 2012, 12:45:24 AM
Could be wrong but I think academic eligibility will be in question.
Correct. But Marquette showing interest has to give some hope.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 23, 2012, 09:30:26 PM
And/or who isn't stayin'.
As it says further down that forum...
the note about MN being at 13 scholarships could include a note about Marquette always over-recruiting because someone is always leaving early for whatever reason.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 23, 2012, 06:18:59 PM
Maybe its just me, but if you 'reopen' your recruitment, aren't you really saying, no one wants me very badly?
I read it explained as he was "starting completely over" or something to that effect. He let out a Top 5 list soon after and Marquette was on it.
This was 2 days after Marquette announced their fall signings.
So take what you want from all of that.
Quote from: HOOP24/7 on January 23, 2012, 09:36:02 PM
Why don't we just take him, seems like he wants to be here.
If we take him someone on the current team has to go or a recruit for next fall not come. So, who do you want to kick off the team, or not see come next year to make room for him?
That's why he's not an easy decision.
You never stop recruiting because you never know what is going to happen. It's the nature of college sports. Tyshawn Taylor happens, Maymon happens, Reggie Smith happens. Just look at the national averages for transfers.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 24, 2012, 07:21:56 AM
If we take him someone on the current team has to go or a recruit for next fall not come. So, who do you want to kick off the team, or not see come next year to make room for him?
And that very well could be why nothing is going to be (unofficially) announced until after the season ends. If Nolan verbals now the team is going to be dogged with the "who's leaving" question the rest of the year. Not exactly healthy.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 24, 2012, 08:00:47 AM
And that very well could be why nothing is going to be (unofficially) announced until after the season ends. If Nolan verbals now the team is going to be dogged with the "who's leaving" question the rest of the year. Not exactly healthy.
Exactly. That is when Buzz makes his assessments and gives the "I think it would benefit you more if....."
By the way, even if someone transfers and Nolan (or some other 2012) comes to MU, we still would have no room to take anyone else in 2013 besides our one-person class of Burton. Which again means that someone else would have to leave to make room for the likes of Kendrick Nunn.
So honestly, I have no idea how much Buzz is interested in Nolan. It seems to me that we wouldn't have signed Durley in November if Buzz was interested in another big, but who knows...
Would love to see us sign another "big"!
Is Nolan playing basketball this year? Thought he was never cleared in WI ... could be wrong.
[Never mind, I read the article]
nolan and burton were cleared
He was just cleared this month and has played in the last several games.
According to a Blog post written by Jeff Borzello of CBS Sports, Phillip Nolan wants to play for a team that will allow him to play his freshman year. "I want a place to help me improve my game, but I also want to play my first year," ..."Basically, a place that's willing to work with me (Nolan, Phillip)."
Since the post is from July 2011, maybe he doesn't feel the same way anymore.
Would Buzz promise Phillip playing time his first year?
http://eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29884776/30695852
Quote from: MtAiryGoldenEagle on January 24, 2012, 10:28:38 AM
Would Buzz promise Phillip playing time his first year?
Buzz promises, as always, that you have a shot at playing if you work hard and beat out the other guys on the roster. Buzz has no problem playing freshmen. He also doesn't have a problem yanking them immediately if they start playing like freshmen.
Quote from: MtAiryGoldenEagle on January 24, 2012, 10:28:38 AMWould Buzz promise Phillip playing time his first year?
I honestly don't think Buzz would promise Shabazz Muhammad or Jabari Parker playin time. He seems very consistent with players getting only what they earn, from practice gear to playing time to scholarship renewals. No matter who you are, I don't expect Buzz to make it easy on anyone, nor should he. That's why certain recruits are attracted to Marquette (JA) and others aren't. I'd rather have kids here that want to be here and want to work for what they get. Vander and Mayo have shown you can earn PT as a frosh, if that's not good enough, you're probably better off going somewhere else.
Scout Paul Biancardi is really high on him. He singled Nolan out as a player to watch outside the ESPN top 100. He believes Nolan can effectively play all 3 frontcourt positions and will be an "immediate asset" for whichever school he chooses.
The only thing holding Philip Nolan back from being a great player is Philip Nolan.
Quote from: marqptm on January 24, 2012, 12:05:44 PMThe only thing holding Philip Nolan back from being a great player is Philip Nolan.
I agree. Nolan is an excellent talent. He's long, athletic, can shoot and block shots with the best of them, but isn't always consistent. I think in the right program, he could develop into a phenomenal player, and Buzz's tough love approach might be just what he needs to really give that effort every day. I'm sure he's familiar enough with Boot Camp that if he is still interested in Marquette, he's prepared to put work in. I'd love to see Nolan in Blue & Gold.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 24, 2012, 11:16:16 AM
I honestly don't think Buzz would promise Shabazz Muhammad or Jabari Parker playin time. He seems very consistent with players getting only what they earn, from practice gear to playing time to scholarship renewals. No matter who you are, I don't expect Buzz to make it easy on anyone, nor should he. That's why certain recruits are attracted to Marquette (JA) and others aren't. I'd rather have kids here that want to be here and want to work for what they get. Vander and Mayo have shown you can earn PT as a frosh, if that's not good enough, you're probably better off going somewhere else.
He better be promising Muhammad and Parker playing time
Quote from: LAZER on January 24, 2012, 01:17:13 PM
He better be promising Muhammad and Parker playing time
Haha, I was going to comment on that. I would promise anything under the sun that was in accordance with NCAA rules. Literally anything.
Quote from: strotty on January 24, 2012, 01:20:00 PMHaha, I was going to comment on that. I would promise anything under the sun that was in accordance with NCAA rules. Literally anything.
You would. I would. I'm just not sure Buzz would. I get the impression Buzz isn't really in the business of coddling his players and potential players. I really think he'd rather have someone that he knows will work their ass off and have a bit of a chip on their shoulder than a guy who expects it all to be handed to him and walks around like he's god's gift (no, not Achiuwa). It's clear Buzz has a good eye for talent, but I think for him, work ethic is just as, if not even more, important when it comes to bringing guys in.
Besides, if you're a Muhammad or Parker, you shouldn't need assurances you'll be playing. You should have the confidence that you are good enough to play now and will do so. And maybe even the humility to take a seat when there's a lesson to be taught.
I hope we sign him. Local kid that wants to be here is big for program. I'd worry about 2013 next year.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 24, 2012, 11:16:16 AM
I honestly don't think Buzz would promise Shabazz Muhammad or Jabari Parker playin time.
If these two needed a promise of playing time to consider a school, then they are not that good. They should believe they are going to come in a win the role in practice without too much effort. All they would need is an assurance that the coach does not have a philosophy of not playing Freshman because they are Freshman. That is easy enough to figure out by looking at the stat sheet.
So no such conversation needs to take place.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 24, 2012, 02:35:38 PM
You would. I would. I'm just not sure Buzz would. I get the impression Buzz isn't really in the business of coddling his players and potential players.
You mean like when Buzz coddled Gardner during recruitment (http://painttouches.com/2012/01/17/marquette-players-earn-what-they-get/)? lol
Quote"I knew that it would be an adjustment for him to learn to work the way that we demand you work," Williams said. "And so I was really critical of him in front of his parents, in front of his coach. 'Mean' would be the nicest thing you could say about how I recruited him because I wanted to see how he would respond."
Williams isn't looking for flashy one-and-done athletes who think they are bigger than the program. He simply won't recruit that way because that's not the kind of person he is. He wants players who understand the value of hard work and are willing to put in the time to become players that reflect how he runs his program.
What is peoples take on Otule's situation. Is there any thought as to whether or not he will be granted another year? When does that get decided upon, next fall?
Quote from: strotty on January 24, 2012, 01:20:00 PM
Haha, I was going to comment on that. I would promise anything under the sun that was in accordance with NCAA rules. Literally anything.
Bad idea, really bad idea. Why?, you can't have the tail wag the dog. Furthermore, that implies more promises are being made to succeeding classes.
Quote from: damuts222 on January 24, 2012, 03:09:46 PM
What is peoples take on Otule's situation. Is there any thought as to whether or not he will be granted another year? When does that get decided upon, next fall?
Buzz has stated that Otule will play a 6th year.
Quote from: damuts222 on January 24, 2012, 03:09:46 PM
What is peoples take on Otule's situation. Is there any thought as to whether or not he will be granted another year? When does that get decided upon, next fall?
My understanding is MU cannot even apply to the NCAA for a medical waiver until the season is over. Technically he is free to come back this season.
He cannot apply until his eligibility is used up. However, since the decision is made by the conference, my guess is that they got the unofficial word from the BE that he would be eligible. I would put it at a 99% certainty.
Tomorrow is Seton Hall ... What does MU, Seton Hall and Nolan have in common?
Since no one took the bait ... Philip Nolan went to St. Benedict Prep in New Jersey last year and was the recruit sitting in the hall for an hour after the Seton Hall game. Remember MU lost and they held a team meeting about it. The media was really pissed about it.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=25179.0
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 30, 2012, 02:24:30 PM
Since no one took the bait ... Philip Nolan went to St. Benedict Prep in New Jersey last year and was the recruit sitting in the hall for an hour after the Seton Hall game. Remember MU lost and they held a team meeting about it. The mediaOne random blogger was really pissed about it.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=25179.0
Fixed
Yes, I remember hearing about the one hour meeting in the locker room after the loss. Nolan had to wait outside. It seems like Nolan really wants to play for MU. Hope we can find a way to sign him.
With Nolan and Durley, if he comes, two 6-10 players. WOW is Buzz seeing the light?
Quote from: Earl Tatum on January 30, 2012, 04:07:17 PM
With Nolan and Durley, if he comes, two 6-10 players. WOW is Buzz seeing the light?
Buzz has never not "seen the light." He wants basketball talent. He's not going to recruit height for the sake of height.
He did with Mbao and Roseboro.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 30, 2012, 02:24:30 PM
Since no one took the bait ... Philip Nolan went to St. Benedict Prep in New Jersey last year and was the recruit sitting in the hall for an hour after the Seton Hall game. Remember MU lost and they held a team meeting about it. The media was really pissed about it.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=25179.0
With Philip Nolan back in Milwaukee, and the Seton Hall game in Milwaukee this year, I hope that you're not suggesting a compete repeat of last year this year in Milwaukee.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 30, 2012, 09:20:31 PM
With Philip Nolan back in Milwaukee, and the Seton Hall game in Milwaukee this year, I hope that you're not suggesting a compete repeat of last year this year in Milwaukee.
i believe mu will win the game, DJO, Crowder and Buzz will immediately sprint to the media room beating all the bloggers/reporters and they will then leave the room and complain about the media being late. nolan will be waiting for buzz on two knees where he will beg buzz to offer him a schollie.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 30, 2012, 09:20:31 PM
With Philip Nolan back in Milwaukee, and the Seton Hall game in Milwaukee this year, I hope that you're not suggesting a compete repeat of last year this year in Milwaukee.
Not a complete repeat but Buzz should invite him into the locker room after the game and make him wait an hour.
Just got back from watching Nolan against Brookfield Central and I don't know how to feel about him. He got stuffed more than a few times by BC's 6' 6" forward. Looks like Tokoto, a little taller and a little leaner. Plays his whole game on the outside and shoots a fair amount of 3s/long jumpers. Didn't post up once. Kept thinking why doesn't he just go inside and dominate, but it doesn't look like that's his game. On the postitive side, he has good body control and athleticism for his size. Good shot blocker as well.
Watched him on the tube and I don't see his game translating to the BE.
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on March 02, 2012, 08:54:22 PM
Just got back from watching Nolan against Brookfield Central and I don't know how to feel about him. He got stuffed more than a few times by BC's 6' 6" forward. Looks like Tokoto, a little taller and a little leaner. Plays his whole game on the outside and shoots a fair amount of 3s/long jumpers. Didn't post up once. Kept thinking why doesn't he just go inside and dominate, but it doesn't look like that's his game. On the postitive side, he has good body control and athleticism for his size. Good shot blocker as well.
I would be shocked if he is in an MU uni next year.
I think good upside with him and worth rolling the dice. He wants to be here and should be help in getting other local studs down the road.
There is no room for him next year. And if someone leaves, I rather pocket the scholie for 2013 since we don't have any for then either. (ie, Kendrick Nunn.)
Sultan---I believe we will have room for him.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 03, 2012, 12:33:43 PM
There is no room for him next year. And if someone leaves, I rather pocket the scholie for 2013 since we don't have any for then either. (ie, Kendrick Nunn.)
Technically MU does have one today for 2013 for a player like Nunn...Otule is still a question mark for the 6th year...and a lot can happen between then and now. Use it now for 2013. Heck, Chris could even be a walk on for a grad school schollie (TA) by that time if he even wants to return.
That's why I said "If someone leaves...pocket it for 2013." Otule isn't walking on. If he gets a 6th year, he'll be on scholarship...and I put that at about a 98% likelihood.
Doesn't Nolan have some potential academic eligibility issues? Just not seeing him either way given our scholarship situation and some of the talent in the Milwaukee and Chicago areas over the next few years. We will need height, but getting stud 2 guards and wings that are too good to pass up and getting a point guard are probably higher priorities than a tall guy who would need to be taught how to play inside.
Polished or project?
I pick polished, as much as polished can be at the end of their prep career.
Nunn better.
we need height today,look at the difference it makes in rebounding!
Any idea what is going on with Nolan?
Not happening.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1346273
MU wants Jameel McKay......No Nolan.
And,it looks like if he worked on his hair, it could rival Jae's!
like this quote:
"Coaches that have shown that they can put players in the league and develop their guys will really appeal to him."
book the Juco and we make another run next year.
If we get McCay ain't no way in hell Durley is coming.
BTW, McKay goes to the same community college that Dwight Buycks went to.
Quote from: nyg on March 22, 2012, 08:38:57 PM
BTW, McKay goes to the same community college that Dwight Buycks went to.
And McKay is from Milwaukee, like Buycks
Why did he go JC? It said academics was the reason he went JC over Prep School. I am guessing he went JC because he did not have any offers, had graduated and thus did not qualify for Prep. But, the info. is unclear. He is a Freshman, so I am guessing he could go D1 now, but does anyone know?
6'8", 190#
Could put on a few pounds, but here's what I like:
"McKay is a four-star prospect that plays with the heart of a lion and seems to have an endless supply of energy and willingness to do the dirty work."
This quote also is right up Buzz's alley:
"I think he'll look for somewhere that can develop him to get some NBA looks," said Burgette. "Coaches that have shown that they can put players in the league and develop their guys will really appeal to him."
The problem I see with McKay is that he looks like a non-qualifier out of high school, unless I am missing the point of "academics forced the JUCO route." This means he wouldn't be available until 2013, assuming he graduates with his associates degree.
Edit: Looked around on a couple sites...pretty sure he's a 2013.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 23, 2012, 11:22:40 AM
The problem I see with McKay is that he looks like a non-qualifier out of high school, unless I am missing the point of "academics forced the JUCO route." This means he wouldn't be available until 2013, assuming he graduates with his associates degree.
Edit: Looked around on a couple sites...pretty sure he's a 2013.
That was the question I had yesterday. It could go one of two ways. First that he did not have the academics to qualify and went JUCO. But the article was discussing it in relation to JUCO or Prep School. The other explanation is that he graduated and did not qualify for Prep School. Without offers, he was forced to go JUCO.
That is why I asked the question yesterday as to why he went Prep. Still unclear.
Nolan should go to a JC and we can add him to the 2014 class with Looney w/2 years eligibility
Quote from: MUMac on March 23, 2012, 12:48:17 PM
That was the question I had yesterday. It could go one of two ways. First that he did not have the academics to qualify and went JUCO. But the article was discussing it in relation to JUCO or Prep School. The other explanation is that he graduated and did not qualify for Prep School. Without offers, he was forced to go JUCO.
I think it is pretty clear. I think he was originally a 2011, who if he could have done the prep school thing, would have been a 2012. But he went JUCO and is now a 2013 with two years left.
Quote from: BLUEPRINT on January 23, 2012, 09:36:02 PM
Why don't we just take him, seems like he wants to be here.
no open scholarships unless someone leaves which I dont want to happen
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 23, 2012, 04:52:10 PM
I think it is pretty clear. I think he was originally a 2011, who if he could have done the prep school thing, would have been a 2012. But he went JUCO and is now a 2013 with two years left.
Probably so as that is the logical, but the article is not so clear as you state. You can go prep with academic issues. That is a reason many do. You cannot go prep if you graduate. They tied the lack of scholarship offers to his wanting to go Prep, not academic. Without an offer and having graduated, his only option would be JUCO - that is a potential "academic" reason. So, I think there is still a question - it may just be a sloppily written comment.