COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

"Life goes on" was his quote last month. Defiant, feeling of invincibility, impatient, young, elite athlete, couldn't possibly happen to him. And if it does, he'll be fine. But of course, it isn't about just him, but everyone exposed by everyone there. Bar and club hopping while there. Nole was also outspoken against the U.S. Open protocols, limited guests etc....(Djokovic routinely rents a large house for his large group annually when playing in Queens)

During the US Open I know he loves to visit the Restaurant Nippon in Manhattan. 
He has multiple signed photos hanging up in this longtime NYC Japanese restaurant.

[shoothoops]

The thing with Djokovic is he has been a top 3 World Player almost every year for almost 15 years. He's 33. He knows better. He was selfish and defiant, perhaps entitled.

Even though he will never have the maniacal global popularity of Federer or Nadal, he is massively popular globally.  He has an audience that will listen to him and see and hear what he does.

Djokovic has played and lived by the notion of overcoming obstacles, without limits. He had digestive problems as a younger player and would get visibly physically ill during some day time hot humid matches. He then went Gluten Free. He has very specific training, diet methods etc....

But when one is used to taking action to overcome the obstacles, it can be different and challenging to overcome the obstacles by being more cautious. It goes against the grain a bit which can make it a worthy challenge for some. It would have been better if he recognized COVID-19 as such much sooner.

[GooooMarquette]

The New York City Marathon, the world’s largest, has been canceled this year.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/world/coronavirus-updates.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage#link-393ca703

Not a surprise, but the cancellation of this iconic event is another ominous sign for other fall and winter sporting events. I wonder how long it takes before the Tour de France is cancelled....

[tower912]

How badly must you have f'd up as a state when NY and Cuomo are going to make any visitor from your state quarantine for two weeks when coming to New York?

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

How badly must you have f'd up as a state when NY and Cuomo are going to make any visitor from your state quarantine for two weeks when coming to New York?

It's a tri-state plan with New Jersey and Connecticut in the mix.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

It's a tri-state plan with New Jersey and Connecticut in the mix.

Gov Lamont just posted the criteria in case anyone wondered why states were included/excluded. 

Travel Advisory: Effective 11:59 p.m. on Wednesday, June 24, 2020, anyone traveling into Connecticut, New York, or New Jersey from a state that has a new daily positive test rate higher than 10 per 100,000 residents or a state with a 10% or higher positivity rate over a 7-day rolling average are directed to self-quarantine for a 14-day period from the time of last contact within the identified state.

As of today, the list of states includes: Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas, Utah & Washington.

[MU82]

Yep. Not that I have a trip planned up that way any time soon, but NC is on the list.

Hospitalizations and percentage of positive steps have been going up steadily here ever since we entered Phase 2 (restaurants open at limited capacity, barbers open, small gatherings allowed with proper distancing, etc) on May 22.

He is supposed to decide if we will enter Phase 3 this week. I'm not optimistic. Folks here have gotten very lackadaisical about mask-wearing and social distancing. For awhile, when I went to the store or to pick up a to-go order, almost everybody was wearing a mask. Now, the no-mask folks outnumber the mask-wearers by a wide margin. And the one time we went out to eat since dine-in was allowed, not a single employee at the restaurant was wearing a mask; won't go there again.

There is talk of the governor issuing a statewide mask mandate, maybe along with letting some more places open - a Phase 2.5. We'll see.

But given the info we have, I don't blame NY-NJ-CT from keeping us out.

[GooooMarquette]

Gov Lamont just posted the criteria in case anyone wondered why states were included/excluded. 

Travel Advisory: Effective 11:59 p.m. on Wednesday, June 24, 2020, anyone traveling into Connecticut, New York, or New Jersey from a state that has a new daily positive test rate higher than 10 per 100,000 residents or a state with a 10% or higher positivity rate over a 7-day rolling average are directed to self-quarantine for a 14-day period from the time of last contact within the identified state.

As of today, the list of states includes: Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas, Utah & Washington.

This begs the question of how they will identify people from said states, and more importantly how they will monitor or enforce the quarantine. From a practical perspective, seems like it almost has to be 'voluntary.'

But I agree with 82 - I certainly don't blame them for trying.

[GooooMarquette]

Yep. Not that I have a trip planned up that way any time soon, but NC is on the list.

Hospitalizations and percentage of positive steps have been going up steadily here ever since we entered Phase 2 (restaurants open at limited capacity, barbers open, small gatherings allowed with proper distancing, etc) on May 22.

He is supposed to decide if we will enter Phase 3 this week. I'm not optimistic. Folks here have gotten very lackadaisical about mask-wearing and social distancing. For awhile, when I went to the store or to pick up a to-go order, almost everybody was wearing a mask. Now, the no-mask folks outnumber the mask-wearers by a wide margin. And the one time we went out to eat since dine-in was allowed, not a single employee at the restaurant was wearing a mask; won't go there again.

There is talk of the governor issuing a statewide mask mandate, maybe along with letting some more places open - a Phase 2.5. We'll see.

But given the info we have, I don't blame NY-NJ-CT from keeping us out.

Just saw a newsflash that Cooper delayed further reopening 3 weeks, and mandated wearing masks. Haven't seen details yet.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

This begs the question of how they will identify people from said states, and more importantly how they will monitor or enforce the quarantine. From a practical perspective, seems like it almost has to be 'voluntary.'

But I agree with 82 - I certainly don't blame them for trying.

It's pretty toothless/voluntary.  If I had to guess the primary objective is to send a message to the New Yorkers that fled to FL or carolina beach houses when things heated up earlier in the year.  They want that set to stay home for a while when they come back to flea outbreaks in those areas. 

Now there are penalties, so if someone is actively flaunting they can fine/order them to quarantine through the judiciary.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

It's pretty toothless/voluntary.  If I had to guess the primary objective is to send a message to the New Yorkers that fled to FL or carolina beach houses when things heated up earlier in the year.  They want that set to stay home for a while when they come back to flea outbreaks in those areas. 

Now there are penalties, so if someone is actively flaunting they can fine/order them to quarantine through the judiciary.

And plenty of New Yorkers have fled to Connecticut.  USPS said 10,000 people switched their address to Connecticut from New York between March and now.

[Pakuni]

Florida, man.

@aravosis: Floridians angrily claiming masks are the work of the devil because “they want to throw God’s wonderful breathing system out the door.” https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1275854598146871296/video/1

[Jockey]

Florida, man.

@aravosis: Floridians angrily claiming masks are the work of the devil because “they want to throw God’s wonderful breathing system out the door.” https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1275854598146871296/video/1

Sounds like a good episode for The Jerry Springer Show.

[pbiflyer]

Florida, man.

@aravosis: Floridians angrily claiming masks are the work of the devil because “they want to throw God’s wonderful breathing system out the door.” https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1275854598146871296/video/1

My home! Not at all surprised.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

The last couple of weeks have been depressing.  I can't really get mad about this, or even have the will to debate this stuff anymore, since we have collectively decided to just give up.  A country that prides itself on its worth ethic and never surrendor attitude has decided this is all too hard and taking all too long. 

All we needed was patience and perserverence.  And we have neither.

For those who care about sports, read this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/06/24/america-cant-act-like-team-it-might-cost-us-return-sports/

"Of course, the world really is a competitive league — but an economic one. In that race, in controlling the novel coronavirus pandemic, we are far behind Asia, where, just to illustrate, Japan and South Korea are playing baseball, and the European Union, where elite professional soccer is back in England, Germany, Italy and Spain.

The gap is incredibly embarrassing. If you want to know why, among many more serious American problems, we may have no more MLB, NFL, NBA or NHL this year, consider Tuesday’s stats. The seven largest countries in the E.U., with a combined population around the same as our 330 million, had about 6 percent as many new coronavirus cases as the U.S.: 2,074 to 33,730. Texas and California had more than 5,000 new cases each.

In April, the E.U. was just as big a health disaster as America. But the E.U. still operates like a team — one that believes in science and has the discipline to fight together against a pandemic. Now, the results are in."

[Pakuni]

The last couple of weeks have been depressing.  I can't really get mad about this, or even have the will to debate this stuff anymore, since we have collectively decided to just give up.  A country that prides itself on its worth ethic and never surrendor attitude has decided this is all too hard and taking all too long. 

All we needed was patience and perserverence.  And we have neither.

For those who care about sports, read this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/06/24/america-cant-act-like-team-it-might-cost-us-return-sports/

"Of course, the world really is a competitive league — but an economic one. In that race, in controlling the novel coronavirus pandemic, we are far behind Asia, where, just to illustrate, Japan and South Korea are playing baseball, and the European Union, where elite professional soccer is back in England, Germany, Italy and Spain.

The gap is incredibly embarrassing. If you want to know why, among many more serious American problems, we may have no more MLB, NFL, NBA or NHL this year, consider Tuesday’s stats. The seven largest countries in the E.U., with a combined population around the same as our 330 million, had about 6 percent as many new coronavirus cases as the U.S.: 2,074 to 33,730. Texas and California had more than 5,000 new cases each.

In April, the E.U. was just as big a health disaster as America. But the E.U. still operates like a team — one that believes in science and has the discipline to fight together against a pandemic. Now, the results are in."

On the bright side, those who wanted us to act like Sweden should be ecstatic.

[GooooMarquette]

The last couple of weeks have been depressing.  I can't really get mad about this, or even have the will to debate this stuff anymore, since we have collectively decided to just give up.  A country that prides itself on its worth ethic and never surrendor attitude has decided this is all too hard and taking all too long. 

All we needed was patience and perserverence.  And we have neither.

Agreed.

A few days ago, an infectious disease specialist from the University of Auckland was quoted in the Post as saying "it really does feel like the U.S. has given up." And she's right. Many individuals, doctors, researchers, institutions, companies and states are fighting like he!!...but as a collective entity, we raised the white flag quite a while ago.

Depressing. I'm gonna take a nap, because that's the only way I can even get through the day anymore....

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I was here a few weeks ago.  I’ve accepted it now. 

The economy is going to suffer from these choices.  Not sure if we go back to lockdowns but this will have two measurable impacts in my opinion.  First consumption will be dampened for a longer period of time as some isolate and become more cautious.  Second manufacturing has the potential to be impacted in affected areas. I’m hopeful these states can get things back on track.

[MU82]

NC staying in Phase 2 through at least July 15, and a statewide mask mandate begins Friday.

People are expecting some kind of legal challenge to the mandate. So yeah, we'll waste taxpayer dollars fighting a lawsuit because effen d-bags are too "freedom-fightery" and too selfish to wear masks during a deadly global pandemic.

This is why we are going the wrong way in 2 of 3 major metrics -- hospitalizations and percentage of positive cases. (Deaths, thankfully, aren't as prevalent the last few weeks.)

Come on, North Cackalacky! Do you want to fully re-open, or not?!?!?!

[mu_hilltopper]

Wow .. Florida.  That's a lot of insanity.

https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1275854598146871296

[wadesworld]

Many posters were saying the half ass shut down/approach the US took would cause far more harm than good over the long term.  The economy was going to take a big hit immediately no matter what approach we took.  So take it seriously and have a coordinated plan starting at the top and it'll suck for a while but it'll get better much, much sooner.  Instead we said we're leaving this up to the states with no real guidance so good luck!  And the states then said hey we're going to shut down, but in reality pretty much everything can be considered "essential" so just be safe!  And the approach has led to exactly what we thought it would, the US falling way, way behind the rest of the world.

[tower912]

At the federal level, no better than Brazil.   No better than Sweden.    Shame.

[Galway Eagle]

Wow .. Florida.  That's a lot of insanity.

https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1275854598146871296

This literally could've been a town meeting in parks and rec it's that ridiculous

[Pakuni]

Wow .. Florida.  That's a lot of insanity.

https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1275854598146871296

But wait, there's more....


This angry Florida woman argued today against the mask mandate, while bringing up the devil, 5G, Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, "the pedophiles" and the deep state. Enjoy... pic.twitter.com/yqKUZNQYLQ

[shoothoops]

Today is the single day high for reported COVID-19 cases in the U.S.

https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1275907797096505344?s=19