Oso planning to go pro
They locked Wuhan down from the rest of China. But not from the rest of the world. They knew what they were “exporting”. The rest of the world (early on) had no idea what they were “importing”. If we knew exactly what we were “importing” why was Trump’s travel ban from China met with hostility and cries of racism and xenophobia?
Moral equivalency for (probably accidentally) creating and then knowingly exporting a killer virus (while protecting your own citizens) and doing a less than perfect job of dealing with one that was sent to you(Spain, Italy, USA, the entire world)? Really?
Japan to State of Emergency. There’s just no current way out.
If, indeed, Wuhan was "knowingly exporting the virus" here, their leaders must have been freakin' delighted that our leader was ignoring most red flags, lying to his citizens over and over and over and over (and over) again, screaming at rallies about Dem hoaxes, and proclaiming that it was just like the common flu.
Not quite everything. They were still actively and knowingly exporting the virus to the rest of the world.
Wuhan had 'unknown' spread for Dec & Jan--so your comment is more about once they responded. NYC had 'unknown spread' essentially end Jan, Feb and early Mar. before lock down. So same time duration -- ~2 months. Unlike some here trying to extrapolate things to policies, reactions, etc, my comment is just about numbers and based on us seeing the virus spread in multiple areas unchecked (like wuhan) they are too low to be real.
Dude/dudette, try to reign it in a bit. I know you dont have to follow the rules here that many of us have to, but it’s over the top. Sad!
Which is why it's also smart for governors to form pacts to defray as well. Ultimately, governors need to continue ring the bell that all uncertainty is due to a lack of federal response (still!) to testing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/us/coronavirus-updates.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20200417&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline®i_id=108420427&segment_id=25406&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855faHe also tweeted “LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/us/coronavirus-updates.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20200417&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline®i_id=108420427&segment_id=25406&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855faTrump on Friday began openly fomenting far-right protests of social distancing restrictions in states where groups of his conservative supporters have been violating stay-at-home orders, less than a day after announcing guidelines for how governors could decide on an orderly reopening of their communities.In a series of all-caps tweets, Mr. Trump declared “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!” and “LIBERATE MINNESOTA!” — two states whose Democratic governors have imposed social distancing restrictions that have shut down businesses and schools and forced people to remain at home. He also tweeted “LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!”Mr. Trump’s tweets were a remarkable example of a president egging on demonstrators. Earlier this week, more than 1,000 protesters organized by conservative groups created a traffic jam on the streets around the State Capitol in Lansing, to complain that the restrictions were bad for small businesses. Other protesters, not in vehicles, waved banners in support of Mr. Trump and protested Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, who has been a target of Mr. Trump’s ire, by chanting, “Lock her up.”In St. Paul, Minnesota, a group calling itself “Liberate Minnesota” has scheduled a protest in violation of stay-at-home orders in front of the home of Gov. Tim Walz and claims that 500 people are likely to show up. The group’s Facebook page says that “now is the time to demand Governor Walz and our state legislators end this lock down!”Mr. Trump’s tweets began just moments after a Fox News report by Mike Tobin, a reporter for the network, about protests in Minnesota and elsewhere. The report featured a protester from Virginia saying “those of us who are healthy and want to get out of our house and do business, we need to get this going again. It’s time.”The message of support for those efforts from Mr. Trump is radically different from the one he delivered from the White House on Thursday evening. During a briefing for reporters, the president unveiled guidelines that governors could use to decide when it was safe to phase out restrictions to minimize the chance of a resurgence of the dangerous pathogen.Dangerous. Dishonest. Disingenuous.
Look Lenny, it was met with xenophobia and cries of racism by idiots. You know and I know it. I'm a pretty liberal guy, and I applauded the measure of closing borders because it was the most logical thing to do at the time. But please stop pretending like the criticism of the travel ban was wide spread.
Serious question, because I don't know the answer. How much of that travel you are referring to were expats returning to their home of residence?All nations directed that their citizens/nationals need to be able to return from Wuhan. So China could not cease all travel, because the international community did not permit it. Even our "ban" was not a ban, US nationals were allowed to travel.
Impressive displays of stupidity all around.
Yesterday, President Pandemic stood in front of all American citizens and presented the guidelines and milestones necessary for states to start "re-opening." Today, he told extremists to protest that their states weren't open already -- guidelines and milestones be damned.Also, interesting that he wasn't too interested in these protests:Not all the protests were aimed at Democratic governors: In Ohio, around 100 protesters gathered outside the Statehouse during an appearance by Gov. Mike DeWine, a Republican. And in St. George, Utah, demonstrators showed up with signs reading “Resist like it’s 1776” and “America will never be a socialist country,” after the Republican governor, Gary Herbert, instructed residents to stay at home.Where were the LIBERATE OHIO and LIBERATE UTAH twits?
I'm just glad the Utah patriots brought up socialism. That's what Covid is all about
Did they buy their sign materials with their stimulus checks?